Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the American Electric Power Second Quarter 2019 Earnings Call. Now at this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded and replay information will be given at the conclusion of the conference.
I will now turn the call over to your host, Betty Jo Rosa. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Kevin. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Q2 2019 earnings call for American Electric Power. Thank you for taking the time to join us today. Our earnings release, presentation slides and related financial information are available on our website ataep.com. Today, we will be making forward looking statements during the call.
There are many factors that may cause future results to differ materially from these statements. Please refer to our SEC filings for a discussion of these factors. Our presentation also includes references to non GAAP financial information. Please refer to the reconciliation of the applicable GAAP measures provided in the appendix of today's presentation. Joining me this morning for opening remarks are Nick Agens, our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer and Brian Tierney, our Chief Financial Officer.
We will take your questions following their remarks. However, before I turn the call over to Nick, I would like to share with you that this will be my last earnings call here at AEP. After 39 years with the company, including 22 years in IR, I have decided to retire effective September 30. While I thoroughly enjoy my role here at AEP and interacting with all of you, there are other adventures I would like to explore and decided now is
the right
time. Nick and Brian have graciously invited me to come to EDI fall conference so that I can say goodbye to you and I look forward to seeing you there. In the meantime, I'm leaving you all in very good hands with Darcy Reese, who most of you already know and our new addition to IR, Tom Scott, who many of you will get to meet in the coming months. I will now turn the call over to Nick.
Thanks, Betty Jo. Before I get started with the earnings call, I would like to recognize Betty Jo for the wonderful job she's done representing this company and our investors. I am a CEO that's been trained by Betty Jo Rosa. I have the permanent bruises on my shins to prove it. I've looked through her for guidance, no pun intended, with the message of our company and we will sorely miss her.
She mentioned to me that she actually did our first earnings call and has done all of them since. 114 years of earnings calls is a lot. Just kidding. She's been with the company 39 years and we have done earnings calls beginning in 2000. So again, Betty Jo, thank you.
Now, on to the Q2. We're doing this a little differently this time. I'm deferring the actual discussion of the GAAP and operating financial performance to Brian's part of the presentation other than to say it was another steady as you go this quarter with financial operating performance consistent with our expectations, so no surprise there. And we continue to confirm our operating guidance for the year of $4 to $4.20 per share for the year and our long term 5% to 7% growth rate. And of course, our Board earlier this year approved the 2nd quarter dividend consistent with our financial plan, which Brian will also cover in more detail.
While the financials for the quarter met our expectations, there were some important catalysts for future growth that developed during the quarter. I'll continue by covering those as well as other highlights and topics for the quarter that we believe you might all be interested in. First, we made several wind resource filings in Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas and Oklahoma and our SWPCO and PSO operating companies consistent with our integrated resource plan expectations. SWPCO and PSO are seeking regulatory approvals to acquire 3 wind generation facilities currently under development in North Central Oklahoma that total 1485 Megawatts, hence the name North Central Wind Initiative. These projects are being developed by Invenergy and will be acquired on a fixed price turnkey basis at COD.
If approved, 200 megawatts will be acquired by the end of 2020 with the balance being acquired at the end of 2021. This $2,000,000,000 investment regulated investment opportunity represents a unique win win for customers and shareholders. The investment is expected to both lower customer rates and provide a long term earnings opportunity for shareholders. Customer benefits total approximately $3,000,000,000 nominal net of costs over the 30 year life of the facilities. The investments produce near term customer savings and positive customer benefits under a wide array of power, natural gas and production sensitivities.
We are seeking timely regulatory approvals in each state in order to take advantage of the expiring federal PTC. The net value of the PTCs that are accrued to our customers totaled approximately $1,400,000,000 and offset nearly 70% of the total capital investment over the 1st 10 years of the project. The acquisition can be scaled subject to commercial limitations to align with individual state resource needs and approvals. We have the ability to take a minimum of 8 10 megawatts and have provided states the ability to take more megawatts in another state or states reject our applications and we have designed enough flexibility into our applications to move forward under scenarios where only 1, 2, 3 or 4 states approve. These highly efficient 44 percent capacity factor wind investments will serve to further diversify our generation fuel mix and act as a valuable fuel price hedge for our customers over the long term.
So you might wonder why we didn't apply for the full 2,200 megawatts with our Swetco and PSO integrated resource plans proposed. Because these projects were competitively bid, we recognized a clear breakpoint between the winning 3 projects that happen to be energy projects who we worked with in the past and others from a pricing perspective. We wanted to position the best projects first and clear winners from an end of money viewpoint so that our commissions could clearly recognize the value for our customers. We can always come in later to fill in the rest of the resource planning requirements with future bids and we feel good about that from a risk perspective. By following the normal regulatory processes that exist with projects that clearly benefit our customers and with less risky multiple projects that are already being developed and utilization of existing SVP transmission capacity, we believe that these projects are set up for success with our regulators, our customers and our shareholders.
We learned a lot from the experience of Wind Catcher and these filings prove that. Now on to the next hot issue, the Ohio House Bill 6 legislation. Governor DeJuan earlier this week signed legislation that will provide support for the nuclear units in Ohio as well as support for the OVAC generating units. While the legislation phases out the RPS mandate after 20 26, it still provides benefits for the recovery of existing renewable contracts until 2,032 and provides additional support for solar projects that have already received siting approval, including our 400 megawatts of proposed solar projects, which can also collect from the same Clean Energy Fund as the nuclear units. So to reiterate, as far as AEP is concerned, we see positives from this legislation for us, namely recovery of OPEC collected that's collected on a statewide basis through 2,030 secondly, recovery of our existing renewable contracts entered into to comply with previous legislation approved by the PECO, the opportunity for AEP Ohio to enter into bilateral contracts with certain customers, this one is an important issue for AEP as we have had specific requests from various customers for AEP Ohio to be the provider of renewable resources in addition to being the wireless provider.
And 4th, the ability for solar projects that have Siding Board approval to access the $20,000,000 of the Clean Air Funds, which includes the 400 megawatts of solar that we now have before the PUCO. The access to these funds make these particular projects even more beneficial for customers. And as you recall, the request for these projects include a $6,000,000 per year debt equivalency rider to maintain AEP Ohio's capital structure. And finally, the net impact of HB6 will provide headroom to our ratepayers, which will enable potential additional distribution investments to improve the customer experience and grid reliability. AEP does believe in the importance of nuclear generation as a part of the portfolio of this country and the state of Ohio.
We congratulate Speaker Householders, Senate President Albaas, Governor DeJuan, Lieutenant Governor Husted and Chairman Randazzo along with many other members of the Ohio legislature in balancing the interest of the need for a balanced portfolio, employment and economic development issues and customer benefits. I also do not think we should view this as the end of energy policy activities in Ohio. From our perspective, HB247 that includes provisions for grid modernization and behind the meter technologies is important. This legislation would clarify the ability for AP Ohio to continue to deliver emerging technologies to our customers that not only improve the customer experience, but enhances grid resiliency and efficiencies. This is a critical area to provide clarity regarding these types of investments that will define the future of the electric utility.
HB247 will continue review in the House with hearings expected in September and AP believes this to be the companion bill that will complete the redefinition of Ohio Energy Policy. Another legislative session that just concluded was in Texas that provided some important wins for Swepco and AP Texas. Swepco can now recover reasonable costs for deployment of advanced metering technologies while providing customer protections. AMI technology has been implemented in the ERCOT portion of Texas, but not in the Swepco Texas jurisdictions. So we are pleased that that can proceed.
Also, new legislation allows Swepco to obtain approval for a rider from the PUCT to recover the investment in power generation facilities outside of a rate case when the generation goes into operation with certain provisions being made for subsequent rate case timing and the size of the investment. Also affecting both Swetco and AP Texas, the legislature passed Senate Bill 1938, a Roper bill that clarifies rules regarding the investment in any new interconnected transmission facilities. Yesterday, we announced the purchase of 2 27 Megawatts, 75 percent interest in the Santa Rita wind farm for approximately $356,000,000 This is just another example of our continued growth consistent with the capital plan for our contracted renewables business. We also could not be more pleased with the outcome of the purchase of the Sempra Wind assets. We are already seeing the prospects of this business continue to grow beyond the value of the original deal financial expectations.
Not only are earnings so far from the business toward the upper end of our acquisition modeling, but the development projects are moving along nicely as well. AEP Clean Energy Resources is close to completing negotiations related to the construction of one of these development projects that uses the Safe Harbor equipment. This project along with others amounting to 1,000 megawatts are in various stages of development. This business now has committed $1,500,000,000 of the $2,200,000,000 committed at EEI last November, so very good progress there. Brian will be discussing the economy and loads in a few minutes in more detail, but I will say while we have seen areas of low decline primarily tariff related, we do expect better performance from our load growth in the second half of the year as a result of a number of new customers for expansions that will come on board primarily in the oil and gas area and data center load areas.
The biggest economic headwind we have at this point is the impact of the trade war on the businesses in AP service territory. The increasing number of tariffs on goods beyond steel and aluminum have impacted export manufacturers in our service territory. Certainly, the trade wars have weakened the world economy and caused a strength in U. S. Dollar, which adds even more of a hurdle.
Hopefully, all of this can get resolved during the election season since the strong economy is one of President Trump's major reelection tenets. So we will continue to monitor this closely as we move forward in finalizing our expectations for next year regarding load growth. Because the rate cases, IMI, Swepco Arkansas and AP Texas are in their initial stages, I'll cover them as we go through the equalizer chart. So, we'll go through that. Turning to that chart on Page 5, AEP's overall regulated operations ROE is currently 9.7% versus 10.1% last quarter.
The primary reason for the decrease in quarter 2 2019 versus quarter 1 2019 was the significantly unfavorable weather versus the year before and lower normalized load, mainly in our vertically integrated utilities. Looking at the individual companies, the ROE for AP Ohio at the end of the second quarter was 12.2%. We expect to end 2019 in this 12.5% to 13% range as we continue to invest in the distribution smart grid, partially offset by the legacy fuel carrying charges rolling off. The ROE for Appalachian Power at the end of the second quarter was 8.9% compared to 9.5% at the end of 1st quarter is primarily attributable to stronger weather results in Q2 2018 versus this year. Lower normalized margins also contributed to lower ROE, but this was offset by the favorable rate proceeding in West Virginia.
The ROE for Kentucky Power at the end of the Q2 2019 was 7.6% compared to 8.6% at the end of Q1 2019. Kentucky's 2nd quarter ROE versus the Q1 was down primarily due to unfavorable weather and unfavorable transmission true up. We are working on optimizing revenue and scrutinizing the O and M and capital to improve ROE by the end of the year. The ROE for I and M at the end of the second quarter was 11.1%. I and M's positive performance in the second quarter was primarily driven by timing of expenses and multiple one time adjustments.
I and M expects to end the year with an ROE around 10%, which is in line with the authorized ROEs in Indiana and Michigan. I and M continues to successfully execute its capital programs in generation transmission and distribution and recently filed future test year rate cases in both Indiana and Michigan to seek timely recovery of the ongoing capital costs. In Indiana, I and M filed for a $94,000,000 net increase with a 10.5% requested ROE. Intervenor testimony is due in August and hearings are anticipated in October with an expected effective date in March 2020. In Michigan, IAM filed for a net increase of $52,000,000 with a 10.5% ROE.
Intervenor testimony is due in October and hearings will occur in November with a commission order expected in April of 2020. The ROE for PSO at the end of the second quarter was 8.4%. PSO received an order on its base case settlement in March 2019, which contained an important provision for a full transmission tracker and a partial distribution tracker. With the continued implementation of new base rates and tracker, we believe that PSO will earn its authorized ROE by the end of the year. The ROE for Swepco at the end of the second quarter was 5.9% versus 7 point 2% at the end of Q1 2019.
The most recent 12 month ROE decreased primarily due to unfavorable weather, loss of normalized load margins and the 2018 wholesale formula rate true up. However, the PUCT approved the company's TCRF settlement in July, which will produce approximately $11,000,000 of additional annual revenue. Additionally, we filed an Arkansas base rate case in February 2019. Swepco's ROE continues to be affected by the Arkansas share of the turf plant that is not in retail rates and this impacts the ROE by about 125 basis points. Swepco filed in Arkansas for a net increase of $34,000,000 which is $46,000,000 minus 12 depreciation with a 10.5% ROE.
Arkansas Public Service Commission staff recommended a 20,000,000 increase based upon a 9.5% ROE. The following provides Perspecta's movement to an annual formula based rate review mechanism. Hearings are expected in October with new rates expected to go in effect in early 2020. The ROE for AEP Texas at the end of the second quarter was 8.5%. The reason for the increased ROE this quarter is primarily due to a one time deferral reported interest expense approved for recovery in the AEP Texas storm cost securitization financing order issued in June 2019.
We expect the ROE to decline by year end due to lag associated with the timing of annual filings and our base rate review filed with the PUCT on May 1, 2019. During a rate review year, there is a lag associated with these filings. Continued high levels of investment will continue to have an impact on the ROE in 2019. Regarding the rate review, we filed a net increase of $35,000,000 with a 10.5% ROE. Intervenor testimony is due today and hearings are set for August with an expected effective date in Q1 2020.
The ROE for AEP transmission holdco at the end of the second quarter 2019 was 10.6%. AP transmission holdco quarter 2 ROE is higher than quarter 1 due to a favorable change in one time events such as the prior year true up in June. Regarding the FERC two zero six filings in the AP East and West Territories, we have obtained settlement orders in both cases. In May, the FERC issued a settlement order approval order for the East territory of AAP that includes a base ROE of 9.85 percent effective January 1, 'eighteen, with a total ROE of 10.35 percent including the 50 basis point RTO adder. The settlement includes a cap on the equity portion of the cap structure at 50 5%.
In the West Transmission area, the FERC issued an order at the end of June that includes a base ROE of 10% effective back to the date of the first complaint. This is a total ROE of 10.5% including the 50 basis point RTO adder. There are no caps on the equity portion of the cap structure and implementation of the new rates will occur in Q3. Refunds for prior periods will be made part of the annual true ups and the parties agreed not to seek any change in the ROE prior to January 2021. So all in all, another great quarter, particularly with the headwinds of tariff related economic conditions.
The 2nd quarter still met expectations financially, but more importantly, the predicate has been set for some important growth opportunities. I would be remiss of not mentioning an evolving side of the earnings growth equation bending the O and M curve. In the face of operational challenges that the industry has recently faced, operational excellence is paramount as the foundation of AEP's ability to advance the creativity and innovation necessary to move our company forward and our transformation to be the premium utility of the future. Technology innovation through digitization automation is absolutely required to get us there. There will be more to come in November EEI, but I just want to give you a couple of examples that we have implemented in this space.
One, we call the asset damage assessment tool ADEPT that digitizes information to more effectively screen facility locates for underground facilities. We expect to be able to clear requests without sending crews for inspections as we do today, saving time and resources. And 2, our breaker shop digital maintenance platform where digitized real time information will improve efficiency, thereby allowing more preventative maintenance inspections of our over 7,500 generation related breakers to be brought in house as opposed to more expensive outside contractors being used for the work. Just a couple of examples, but many others will continue to move the needle on reducing O and M and provide better service to our customers. These efforts remind me of a drummer that creates new rhythms that can only be grounded by the rudiments or fundamentals of drumming, a lot of practice to develop muscle memory and the creativity to develop new complicated rhythms that redefine the notion of operating rhythm.
As an example, just listen to a famous drummer, Gavin Harrison, who played an unusual 7four time signature beat in Sound of Music, which is Muzak if you're looking it up by Porcupine Tree, a great sounding song, but very difficult to learn and play. This is what AEP is in the process of doing now, focusing on the fundamentals of operational excellence to provide the muscle memory while establishing the culture of creativity and innovation necessary to define a new operating rhythm of technology deployment to bend the O and M curve and find new avenues for growth. So while this quarter is another solid quarter, just know that we are feverishly in the background driving forward and providing future shareholder value and improving our customers' experience. Ryan? Thank you, Nick, and good morning, everyone.
I will take us through the Q2 year to date financial results, provide some insight on loading the economy and finish with a review of our balance sheet and liquidity. Let's stop briefly on 6, which shows the comparison of GAAP to operating earnings for the quarter and the year to date periods. GAAP earnings for the Q2 were $0.93 per share compared to $1.07 per share in 2018. GAAP earnings through June were $2.10 per share compared to $2 per share in 2018. There is a reconciliation of GAAP to operating earnings in the appendix.
Let's go into the detail on slide 7 and look at the drivers of quarterly operating earnings by segment. Operating earnings for the 2nd quarter were $1 per share or $494,000,000 compared to $1.01 per share or $498,000,000 in 2018. Operating earnings for the vertically integrated utilities were $0.38 per share, down $0.18 Weather was the largest driver of the variance this quarter, down $0.13 from last year, driven by the warmer than normal temperatures experienced in the spring of 2018. Normalized load was also unfavorable with decreases across all classes. We will talk more in detail about our normalized load and regional economies a little bit later.
Rate changes helped offset these declines. You can see other smaller impacts for this segment listed on the slide. Transmission and Distribution Utility segment earned $0.27 per share, up $0.04 from last year. Favorable items included rate changes and recovery of increased transmission investment in ERCOT as well as favorable carrying charges in taxes. These favorable items were partially offset by higher depreciation and property taxes on the increased investment and higher O and M due to storms.
The AEP transmission holdco segment continued to grow contributing $0.31 per share, an improvement of $0.10 over last year. This growth reflected the return on incremental rate base as well as the impacts of the annual true up and a favorable FERC settlement. Net plant increased by $1,400,000,000 or 19% since June of last year. Generation and marketing produced earnings of $0.06 per share, up $0.01 from last year, primarily driven by the growing renewables business and the repowering of Trent Mesa and Desert Sky as well as the acquisition of the Sempra Wind assets. Corporate and other was up $0.02 primarily due to the consolidating tax items that should levelize over the year and were partially offset by higher interest expense and a positive tax adjustment from last year that did not recur.
Let's turn to slide 8 and review our year to date results. Operating earnings through June were $2.19 per share or $1,100,000,000 compared to $1.97 per share or $972,000,000 in 2018. Looking at the earnings drivers by segment, operating earnings for the vertically integrated utilities were $1.01 per share, down 0 point 0 $2 with weather subtracting $0.15 compared to last year. Normalized load was also down for the year across all classes and depreciation increased due to incremental investment. On the positive side, rate changes added 0 point $6 and AFUDC and transmission revenue were each favorable by $0.02 Through June, the Transmission and Distribution Utility segment earned $0.58 per share, up $0.09 from last year, influenced by the reversal of a regulatory provision in Ohio.
Other favorable drivers included higher rate changes and transmission revenue as well as favorable carrying charges in Texas. Partially offsetting these favorable items were higher depreciation and property taxes from increased investment as well as higher O and M and unfavorable weather. The AEP Transmission Holdco segment contributed $0.57 per share, up $0.15 from last year. This growth in earnings reflected our return on incremental rate base as well as the impact of the annual true up and a FERC settlement. Generation and marketing produced $0.14 per share, up a penny from last year.
Increases in retail margins and the growth in the renewables business were offset by lower generation sales due to plant retirements and outages. Finally, corporate and other was down a penny primarily driven by higher interest expense and taxes, which were partially offset by lower O and M. Overall, we are pleased with our financial results and are confident in reaffirming our annual operating earnings guidance of $4 to $4.20 per share. Now let's turn to slide 9 and update you on our load performance. Starting in the lower right chart, normalized retail sales decreased by 1.8% for the quarter compared to 2018.
This decline is largely responsible for the 1% decrease in the year to date comparison. For both comparisons, normalized retail sales were down across all operating companies and retail classes. We now anticipate 2019 normalized sales to come in 0.2% below 2018. Moving clockwise, industrial sales decreased by 2.7% for the quarter, which brought the year to date comparison down to 1.5% below last year. Sales to the industrial class have been slowing in recent quarters as the impact of the strong dollar and more restricted trade policy have challenged export manufacturers within AEP's footprint.
For both the quarter and the year to date comparison, industrial sales were down across all operating companies with the exception of Public Service Company of Oklahoma, which benefited from increased oil and gas activity in 2019. I'll provide more color on our industrial sales on the next slide. In the upper left chart, normalized residential sales decreased by 1.4% compared to the Q2 of 2018. As described earlier, the weak second quarter performance erased the positive momentum from earlier this year, making the year to date comparison essentially flat. The decline in normalized usage for the quarter more than offset the 0.4 percent growth in customer counts.
Finally, in the upper right chart, commercial sales decreased by 0.9 percent for the quarter and Turning to slide 10, I'll provide more color with respect to our industrial sales growth. This chart shows the disparity in growth between the oil and gas sectors and all other industrial sectors. The oil and gas sector load shown in blue mirrors the pattern for oil prices. For the quarter, industrial sales in the oil and gas sectors increased by 2.8%. We expect growth in oil and gas to continue throughout 2019 based on a number of new projects identified to come online later this year, primarily in the mid and downstream part of the sector.
Focusing on the red bars, the non oil and gas industrials have struggled since the tariffs since the first tariffs were announced last year. For the quarter, industrial sales other than oil and gas declined by 4.6% compared to last year. Most of this slowdown can be tracked to the export industries such as chemicals manufacturing, which is down 14% for the quarter. Ironically, sales to the primary metals sector declined by 1% this quarter despite the tariffs on steel and aluminum. As discussed on previous calls, AEP has a higher exposure to trade policy given a higher concentration of export manufacturers located within the service territory.
Despite these headwinds, we have a number of new industrial expansions, as I said earlier, largely focused on oil and gas and we expect this to drive industrial sales into the positive territory for the full year. Now let's turn to slide 11 and review the status of our regional economies. As shown in the upper left chart, GDP growth in AEP service territory was 1.8% for the quarter, which is 0.8% below the U. S. The strongest growth for the quarter came from the AEP Texas service territory.
All of our service territories experienced GDP growth with the exception of Kentucky. Moving to the upper right chart, see that employment growth for the AEP service territory improved this quarter to 1% above last year, while U. S. Growth moderated slightly in the Q2. Throughout the AEP footprint, over 18,000 jobs were added in the 2nd quarter with 37 percent of those coming from the education and healthcare sector.
Other sectors that experienced strong growth in employment in the quarter included construction and natural resources and mining. Final chart at the bottom shows that income growth within AEP's footprint moderated slightly in the 2nd quarter, while U. S. Income growth accelerated. For the quarter, personal incomes within AEP service territory increased by 3.4%, which was 0.7% below the U.
S. Income growth is
a key driver for residential and commercial sales. Now let's turn let's move on to slide 11 I'm sorry, let's move on to slide 12 and review the company's capitalization and liquidity. Our debt to total capital ratio increased 1% during the quarter to 58.8%. Our FFO to debt ratio was solidly in the Baa1 range at 15.3% and our net liquidity stood at about $2,600,000,000 supported by our revolving credit facility. Our qualified pension funding decreased approximately 2% to 96% and our OPEB funding decreased approximately 1% to 130 percent.
A drop in interest rates was the largest driver in the decreased funding status, but strong equity and fixed income returns helped offset much of the liability increases. Let's try to wrap this up on slide 13 so we can get to your questions. We have successfully achieved outcomes in all expected regulatory cases and we will work with our regulators to obtain approval in the North Central Wind Initiative benefiting our PSO and swept through customers. Our year to date performance and the stability of our regulated business model gives us the confidence to reaffirm our operating earnings guidance range of $4 to $4.20 per share. With that, I will turn the call over to the operator for your questions.
Thank you.
First question is Greg Gordon, Evercore. Please go ahead. Betty
Jo, Like an institution is leaving. It's very, very I'm happy for you, but at the same time, sad that we're going
to miss you. Looking forward to seeing you.
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is with regard to That's it. You can stay longer.
My question is with regard to just a little bit more thought perhaps on what's going on, on the demand side. I mean, clearly, on the industrial side, you've been upfront on saying that things are a little bit behind plan because and you point to the sort of trade tensions and other factors. At the same time, it looks like the demand from the oil and gas sectors remain strong, except we're seeing signs of significant weakening in activity there in real time. So how do you guys manage around the potential volatility in those areas of the economy if they wind up trending weaker than planned over the next several years?
Craig, we've always, of course, monitored load and what's going on with that. And we've tried to adjust over time our O and M spend in response to how load is impacted either by trade tariffs, the dollar or things like weather, and we saw that impact this quarter as well. You mentioned seeing slowdown in oil and gas. We're kind of seeing the opposite of that. We're seeing uptick in oil and gas right now, including expansions through the end of the year.
And whereas previously, we've seen things really on the upstream side, we're now starting to see things on the mid and downstream side as things as the infrastructure comes in to fulfill what's been happening in the producing part of that industry. So we're still seeing uptick in oil and gas and anticipate increases in that throughout the balance of the year. But we are subject, as everyone else, to what's happening with the general economy and weather. We've been very successful in responding to that over the last several years and anticipate doing the same going forward. The interesting thing is, Greg, oil prices remain at least relatively decent, unlike, I guess, natural gas prices continue to be relatively low.
But there's a lot of oilfield activity. But also, like as Brian said, the infrastructure pipeline activity continues because there's a lot of production that can't and that's why our prices are so low in a lot of territories, they just can't get the transmission capability. So, a lot of work continues in that regard. The other part is even our industrial base is pretty diversified and it's unusual to see several of them line up 8 out of 10, I believe, of the sectors are decreasing. And you can really point to the tariff activity.
So if that gets resolved, we should be in much better shape in our territory. That being said, there is expansion going on. Matter of fact, there was just an announcement in Corpus Christi of a large expansion there. It was announced a couple of days ago. So we continue to see the pipeline of activity.
I think we just need to get past these tariff issues so that people really understand and companies understand the rules of the game so they can make investments. And so, we'll get there. But until the end, we'll do what we've always done. No matter what's going on with all the fundamentals associated with our business, we pull the levers we do to make sure externally we provide that consistent quality of earnings going forward. So if the economy is adjusting, we have to adjust.
Clear. Thank you.
Yes. And our next question is from the line of Julien Dumoulin Smith, Bank of America. Please go ahead. Good morning, Julien.
Good morning. This is Alex calling in for Julien.
Hi,
Alex. Congratulations, by the way, Betty Jo. Thank you. I have two quick questions. And one is first on Ohio.
I was wondering if you have looked into and could detail the impact of decoupling from the Ohio, Bill 6. I know that this is something that FirstEnergy is exploring and I was wondering if this could potentially be a positive for you as well?
Well, we're already decoupled in Ohio. So that really isn't an issue for us.
Okay, great. And then my second question is plans for AMI in Swepco. If this could also be another positive for the company? And if so, when we might anticipate future announcements about it?
Yes. I think it is there will be positive for SWEVCO. And certainly, we want to go about the process as quickly as possible to get AMI metering put in place as a predicate for many of the technologies that we're working with. So it's important to do that. I think you're probably going to be seeing focus on that very soon now that the legislation is done.
Okay. Thank you. And also including like Arkansas and states like that rather than just Texas?
Well, certainly we'll install AMI Metering wherever we can install it. But and I think I have to check, but I'm pretty sure we could do that in any other states already. We just haven't gotten to the point of moving that process ahead in those jurisdictions yet, but we're getting there.
Okay. Thank you so much. Thanks for taking my question.
We had recently installed some AMR meters in Swepco And so we're really managing through dealing with the replacement of those at the same time of putting in AMI metering. So it's one of those areas where timing is going to be pretty important and certainly the regulatory process will be key in terms of the implementation.
Okay. Thank you again.
Yes.
Next question is Steve Fleishman Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.
Good morning, Steve. Hey, good morning. Betty Jo, congratulations. Definitely wish you the best. Thank
you. So just this maybe I don't know if you have this detail, but out of curiosity, when you talk about the strength in oil and gas, is there a big difference between the AEP East and AEP West businesses? Is it mainly in the West?
Yes. Steve, yes. So we're seeing it in the West, particularly in Texas and Oklahoma.
Okay. How about the AAP East Oil and Gas? Is that down or flat or still up?
It's still up, but it's not to the degree that the west part is.
Okay. And then maybe could you just talk about maybe a little more color on the regulatory approval process on Northwind and just kind of timelines and the like?
Yes. So guess the beauty of all this is that using the standard integrated resource plan processes and we'll go through the normal hearings, but we're expecting to have an outcome in about a year. The filings have just been made and obviously we'll go through the testimony and all that kind of stuff in the meantime. We'll try to move it as expeditiously as we can to take advantage of the PTCs, but we expect the procedural schedules to come out soon, but the expectation is it will take about a year to get those approvals.
Okay. And do you just you just need to prove that you don't need to prove needs. You just need
to prove this is like lease cost or in the public interest? Well, yes, that's right. There is capacity needs and PSO and then Swepco is looking at it from really a customer benefit perspective.
Got it. Okay. Thank you.
Yes. Really nothing unusual about these filings and that's probably the good thing. We went after Wind Catcher because it was a unique opportunity and we certainly wanted to be able to perform that project. But it was outside the regulatory process and all that kind of stuff and the risk involved of large transmission. So this is a very different proposition within the framework of the existing processes.
So we feel good about it. Okay. Thank you.
Next question is from the line of Andrea Storozynski, Macquarie. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Betty Jo, congratulations. So two questions. You mentioned that the Sempra wind portfolio, both the operating assets and the development pipeline are actually exceeding your expectations. That together with some of the cost cutting, is that enough to keep you in the middle of your guidance range for this year?
Yes. We
feel good about where we stand for the guidance of this year. And with the additions there along with our optimization activities, but also we have gone through several series of rate cases in previous years that continue to benefit us as well. So, obviously, there's a lot of issues to look at, a lot of areas where every year we have positives and negatives, But all in all, it comes out to where we fully support the guidance that we've given. I don't see an issue there at all.
Okay. And then secondly, so you have those additional growth drivers like the AMI, CapEx, the potentially rate based renewables and so on PSO. How should we think about those? Are those going to elongate the current growth rate for the company, I. E.
There's going to be some reduction of, say, transmission spending or some other CapEx to basically keep the growth rate unchanged? Or is this incremental to the current growth rate?
Yes. So, we continue to look at what the future holds and still long term growth rate of 5% to 7%, we still would be disappointed if it wasn't in the upper end of that because we expect approvals for these additional wind projects that we haven't included in our plan. We're watching the economy obviously you tell me what the timing is of getting the tariff issues resolved, but they're probably resolved before the election, I would presume. If that's the case, then we should be in really good shape. And of course, every year that goes by, we're a large company and fueling 5% to 7% growth is more and more of a challenge.
But that's why we look at things like what is going on with our contracted renewables, the value of the Sempra deal, what's going on with the regulated additions, not just regulated additions in the Western territories, but in the Eastern territories as well, particularly with the legislation. And keep in mind too, I think it's really important to focus on what Ohio has just done. It's opened up the ability for us to work directly with customers on the AP Ohio side where they wanted to because there's customers who have said, We want you to do our solar projects. We want you to do the resources for these facilities. And to this point, we've been unable to say that Ohio could do that.
Now we can. And so, I think that's going to fuel a further expansion from a renewable standpoint and from a resource standpoint, micro grids and so forth. And watch this House Bill 2 47 because I think that's really important around what we do on the digitization, automation, the technologies at the distribution side and I continue to view the distribution wedge, capital wedge of this company continuing to grow considerably as a result of that. The other thing too is transmission. Transmission, we have to spend $2,500,000,000 just to keep the present average age.
So if you think about that, that's a foundation. If we ever want to advance the age, which is pretty old at this point, we have to continue to invest in a large degree in transmission to make sure that our system remains reliable and resilient. So, there's so many opportunities And another one I would point out is a pilot that we're doing in Virginia right now around broadband. We're doing sort of the midstream broadband that the others, AT and T and others, are supportive of us doing because we're already putting in fiber for resiliency of the grid itself in terms of analytics. There's available capacity.
We can bring the urban areas closer the rural areas closer to the urban centers as well, allow broadband to exist in these communities that don't have it today. And that's another opportunity for us to continue to go. And then then less vacation of the economy. So, I'm bullish about the growth opportunities of this business. The question in our minds is how we manage our balance sheet around FFO to debt and those kinds of metrics and be able to address all the capital opportunities of the use of that balance sheet.
So there's still a lot of work for us to do. But it really is good work.
Just one follow-up to the balance sheet management. You never mentioned how you're going to finance those rate based renewables at SWPCO and PSO. Is it fair to say that this update is coming only once the approvals are in, I. E, about 12 months from now?
Absolutely, Andrew. So obviously, when we talk about this opportunity, it's not what we've laid out in our current financing plans. This would be incremental to it. And we would update that as we get approvals. But I think you've seen from us in the past really putting generally equal measures of debt and equity together to finance our capital plans and really fairly conservative management of our balance sheet, and I think you'll see that continuing going forward.
Great. Thank you.
Thanks. Next question is from Ali Agha of SunTrust. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Good morning, Betty. Best wishes to you as well.
Thank you.
First question, Nick or Brian, just wanted to clarify the growth outlook. I recall Nick in the past when you've talked about your base plan and that was before you announced the wind projects, renewable projects that you thought that your base plan could track you to the high end of the 5% to 7% growth rate. Is that still your expectation? And if so and if you get these wind approvals, could that theoretically actually take you above the 5% to 7% growth rate?
Well, I've always said and I continue to say, we believe it certainly will make 5% to 7% more robust and we'd be disappointed if we weren't in the upper And we're going to have to get through and determine what happens to the load going forward. We have the growth opportunities there, but if you have tempering aspects of load growth, I think it would be probably good for us right now to stand pat at the 5% to 7% of what we said previously that we expect to be and certainly would be disappointed if we weren't in the upper end of that 5% to 7%.
Okay. And then more near term again just to clarify, you brought down your load expectations for this year from up 1% to now slightly down. Weather obviously has been a drag. Can you just kind of remind us in the very short term, what are sort of the immediate offsets to think about that could help you this year? Is it all O and M?
Or is that something that's actually gone better than perhaps budgeted to offset that?
Yes. Ali, it's a couple of things. One is O and M. The other one is we've had some positive rate outcomes that have outpaced our expectations for the year.
I see. Okay. And then largely just to also clarify, assuming that the entire $2,000,000,000 investment is approved, would you consider that all incremental? Or is there an opportunity for you to extend out some of the base CapEx and sort of fit it in within the
current CapEx profile? We've not made a determination on that yet, Ali. Got you.
Thank you. Yes. Thanks.
And next question is from the line of Michael Lapides, Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys. Good morning, guys. Nick, got a longer term question for you. When you look around across the jurisdictions, where do you have where do you lack regulatory mechanisms that you would like to seek to get put in place? Kind of which of the jurisdictions where you think your regulatory team has the most wood to chop?
And how do you think that process plays out in those few jurisdictions? Like what's on your wish list?
Yes, I have a lot of wishes. But we have about 65%, I mean 2 thirds of 70% of our rate recovery is through tracker rider mechanisms. So, we're doing pretty well from that perspective. But there are things obviously I'd like to see because this utility business right now, we're needing to invest in the resiliency and reliability of this grid and really refurbish the grid in a major way. And that tells me that it would be great to have more forward looking type of test years like we do in Indiana.
The formula based rate mechanisms are really good, but they're still somewhat lagging, but they're better than waiting on rate cases and stuff. And I think it's important to have mechanisms in place, whether formula based rates, whether forward test years, those kinds of things need to be in place to allow us to continue to invest and not impact our balance sheet from an FFO debt perspective. And keep in mind, AEP did not go out for additional equity or anything with tax reform. So, certainly, it brought our credit metrics in to something that obviously we need to watch, particularly as you're investing capital. And then with load decreasing and revenue having an impact associated with that, that's going to further impact FFO to debt.
So, we're watching that very closely, those metrics to preserve our balance sheet. And then, that's obviously something we're going to have to continue to work through. So on the view, I think we had, Rob. Michael, we don't have any jurisdictions where we have real concerns any longer. There's been a lot of progress that's been made in places like Oklahoma where we still have integrated utilities and it's not just wires only.
One of the initiatives that we're working on and taking a close look at from in terms of the risk of the customer and ourselves are the depreciation rates associated with our fossil generating stations and making sure that they're in line. So that's an initiative that all of our vertically integrated utilities are looking at. We made some headway in that in regards to the Rockport generation depreciation at Indiana where we had an offset associated with the flowback of the deferred income taxes. We were able to shorten up the depreciation period and not impact customer rates by having that offset from the deferred income tax flowback. So, that's an initiative that we're working across the jurisdictions, but kind of a blessing we don't have any that we would call troubled jurisdictions today.
The jurisdictions are operating well and our operating companies have strong relationships with the regulators and legislatures and we're getting good outcomes like Nick described in Ohio. So there's no sore point that we are overly concerned about, but just some broad based initiatives that we continue to work. Yes. There's a lot of the balls on our equalizer chart. It's either because of weather or that we continue to invest heavily in these jurisdictions, but it's clearly important for us and you're seeing advancement of formula based rate mechanisms.
Arkansas, for example, we now have some riders, significant riders in PSO in Oklahoma, and of course the other riders in Indiana, Michigan and so forth. And those are beneficial, but if I look at 2 things forward looking for this industry and with the issues of cyber, physical security, refurbishment of the grid, ensuring that we maintain a reliable system going forward, it's imperative that we're able to invest and recover on a timely basis. And that tells me, for the best rates, I'll take it. For the test years, even better. And we need to work that around the horn across all the jurisdictions.
Got it, guys. Thank you. Very thorough answer. Much appreciated. Yes.
Operator, we have time for one more call.
Okay. And that question is from the line of Praful Mehta of Citi. Please go ahead. Good morning, Praful.
Hi, morning and congratulations, Betty Jo. All the best.
Thank you.
So maybe the first question on Slide 9, where you have the industrial growth and I know you've touched on this in the past, I just wanted to confirm year to date down 1.5%, but your budget clearly is positive. So you clearly see already things that are in place that would increase the load between now year end. Is that right? Just to confirm?
That's correct, Praful. And when we see expansions that are out a year or more than a year, we need to really wait those for probability of them coming in. We feel pretty confident about things as close in as 6 months.
Yes, exactly. That's what I would have thought. So thanks for confirming. And secondly, maybe on the credit point that you all made, because you have all these opportunities for investment and you will be conservative by the sounds of it on the financing side. Just wanted to understand how the cash effective tax rate fits into that because it's helpful on Slide 34, you've indicated around a 5% cash tax rate.
Is that something that you expect will stay around that level?
Or does that you expect that to change? And would that put any pressure on the metrics over time? So we do expect the cash tax rate to be around that 5.25% going forward. Clearly, the flowback of the deferred taxes is a big use of our cash these days. But remember, we had gone in with a strong balance sheet before tax reform thinking we were going to become a big payer of taxes.
And now that we're not a big payer of taxes, we're a big flow backer of deferred income tax. I don't think that's a word. But we are now flowing back significant amounts of deferred taxes. So for this year, given the orders that we have, we had anticipated flowing back both protected and unprotected about 267,000,000 dollars We're now going to be flowing back about $330,000,000 in 2019. Going forward, in the next 3 years, we anticipate that number being a closer to about $200,000,000
Got you. And that was a choice in terms of flowing back more this year given you have some room
on the metrics? It was a choice by our regulators.
Got you. All right. Well, thank you so much. Really appreciate the color. Thanks, Praful.
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