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Earnings Call: Q1 2018

Apr 26, 2018

Operator

As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Bette Jo Rozsa . Please go ahead.

Bette Jo Rozsa
Managing Director of Investor Relations, American Electric Power

Thank you, Leah. Good morning, everyone, welcome to the first quarter 2018 earnings call for American Electric Power. We appreciate you taking the time to join us today. Our earnings release, presentation slides, and related financial information are available on our website at aep.com. Today, we will be making forward-looking statements during the call. There are many factors that may cause future results to differ materially from these statements. Please refer to our SEC filings for a discussion of these factors. Our presentation also includes references to non-GAAP financial information. Please refer to the reconciliation of the applicable GAAP measures provided in the appendix of today's presentation. Joining me this morning for opening remarks are Nick Akins, our Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Brian Tierney, our Chief Financial Officer. We will take your questions following their remarks. I will now turn the call over to Nick.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Thanks, Betty Jo. Good morning, everyone, welcome again to AEP's first quarter 2018 earnings call. We were very happy to get out of 2017 in respectable fashion with one of the mildest years on record, still delivering results within our guidance range for the year. We're off to a much more normal start in 2018 financially, with more normal weather, buoyed by what appears to be a resurgent economy. In fact, AEP's service territory economy and load performance is as strong as it has been in years. Unemployment rates are the lowest since 2000, retail sales are up in all classes, all companies, actually in all 10 sectors of the economy, which hasn't happened since 2011.

With that said, because of O&M timing and its return to normal levels after a year of reductions due to weather, our results for the quarter were on par with expectations in achieving our stated guidance range for the year of $3.75 to $3.95 per share, which we are reaffirming. The first quarter 2018 EPS came in at $0.92 per share GAAP and $0.96 per share operating versus $1.20 per share GAAP and $0.96 per share operating respectively in 2017. Overall, a good quarter and start for the year. Looking deeper into the quarter, Brian will cover this in more detail, fundamentally, we are in better shape than in the first quarter of last year, given this has been a busy quarter of rate case outcomes that set the tone for the future.

I'll get into the rate case outcomes in a minute. First I want to say thank you to our employees who worked so hard in recovery efforts after last year's hurricanes. Hurricanes Harvey in Texas, Irma in Florida, and Irma and Maria in Puerto Rico. Our last employees have returned from Puerto Rico, and I'm so proud of their accomplishments in very severe conditions. In our business, they are our heroes. Now let's talk about some activities of interest during this quarter. Wind Catcher is finally feeling some tailwinds. We have accomplished important settlements in Arkansas, Louisiana, and now Oklahoma with the industrials and Walmart that provides the framework for the various commissions to bless this significant project and its benefits for our customers.

We are continuing to try to bring other parties in Oklahoma, such as the Oklahoma staff, onto the settlement agreement and are continuing our efforts in Texas to achieve a settlement as well. We have taken on manageable risks and intended to recognize market expectations relative to regulated wind projects and have worked hard to mitigate these risks in the background with engineering, construction, and operational strategies. We are confident in our ability to deliver the expected benefits to our customers and shareholders and look forward to obtaining commission approvals so that we can move forward as quickly as possible. We're now awaiting commission orders in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Texas and expecting orders in the May and June timeframe. Regarding Ohio, we just received an order yesterday. We are pleased the Public Utilities Commission of Ohio approved the settlement for the most part in the Ohio ESP case.

Not only do we now have an ESP that is effective through 2024, which certainly brings an important element of stability, it also preserves the continuation of the distribution investment rider at the settlement agreement level and a 10% ROE. The order also supports future opportunities through the Smart City initiative and the renewable generation rider. These components really look to the future as envisioned by Chairman Asim Haque's Power Forward initiative. AEP stands ready to support the PUCO in this important endeavor. Additionally, the Columbus Smart City initiative has taken a major step forward in providing societal benefits of electrification, EV adoption, distributed resources, smart street lighting, and other benefits that will define the future for Columbus and the nation. This order also preserves our ability to collect for OHVAC subject to certain transmission-related limitations through 2024.

All in all, a good order brings stability and certainty to future benefits that will support AEP's drive to improve the customer experience. Several other rate case outcomes have produced positive results. In Indiana, I&M has a settlement agreement filed, and we anticipate a July effective date of a net revenue increase of $97 million, which includes tax reform adjustments and a 9.95% approved ROE. In Michigan, an order effective this month with a revenue increase of $49 million and a 9.9% authorized ROE has been completed. In Kentucky, a 9.7% authorized ROE and a net revenue of $16 million, adjusted for tax reform, was effective in January of this quarter. SWEPCO Texas had their increase of $50 million and 9.6% ROE that was approved and retroactively applied to May of last year.

In Oklahoma, which is our only significant rate case disappointment, with only a 9.3% authorized ROE and $76 million net revenue adjusted for tax reform was effective in March. Speaking of tax reform, the adjustment for tax reform in the Oklahoma case assumed that the authorized ROE versus the actual ROE of 5.2%, that cost PSO another $15 million. We have some work to do to try to clarify some of that activity. Brian will be discussing tax reform itself in more detail in a couple of minutes. PSO's effective ROE is only 5.2%, we are evaluating our options regarding cost control and additional rate case activity. Regarding the FERC Section 206 transmission cases, in the East, we filed with FERC a settlement of several of the parties that resolves all issues set for hearing.

The settlement agreed to a base ROE of 9.8%, subject to a cap and common equity of 55%. With the RTO adder of 50 basis points, the effective ROE will be 10.3%, and we will adjust our 50/50 cap structure to reflect a 55% equity layer. Interim rate changes reflecting these settlement parameters were filed with PJM earlier this month. We await a final order from FERC as we bring certainty to our transmission-related investments in the East. Where AEP has much less exposure in the West, settlement discussions have stalled. We stand ready for further discussions, but this may likely go to hearing for a resolution to occur. As you move to the equalizer chart this time around, many of these companies we've already covered, so this will be a sort of a shorter version. Overall, our regulated ROEs are 9.5%, which was 9.5% last quarter.

We generally target the 10% range. As you know, we have currently five rate cases that are completed, so we expect these ROEs to continue to improve across the board. Regarding AEP Ohio, the ROE for AEP Ohio at the end of the first quarter was 13.7%, but that includes issues that are actually excluded for evaluation of the CE. Also, the CE's adjusted ROE is 9.5%. As you recall, they have some legacy issues that are excluded from the calculation, such as the RSR, some fuel-related activities, and 2014 CE refunds. The effective return is 9.5%, and those legacy items generally roll off at the end of the year. Hopefully, we'll be able to merge those two bubbles into something that makes sense later on. APCo at the end of the first quarter was 9.2%.

APCo's improvement in ROE over the fourth quarter 2017 is primarily weather. Just to note, the Virginia legislature passed legislation establishing triennial rate reviews. APCo's first triennial review will be in 2020. It'll cover the 2017 to 2019 period. We have a little work to do there. Then West Virginia, we intend on filing a rate case in May in that jurisdiction. I already covered Kentucky. I just wanted to mention to you that we do have a couple of large aluminum company and a battery storage manufacturer located there. That's part of our long-term strategy around improvements of the ROEs in Kentucky. The economic development part of that is very important. As far as I&M, I've already covered both of those. PSO, I think we've talked about enough.

SWEPCO continues to have the effect of not only the Turk 88 megawatts, which we'll have to deal with in the future, but also they lost some wholesale contract load that went off at the first of the year. That was an impact for them, but we expect them to move up just a little bit as formula-based rates and other mechanisms come into place in the retail jurisdictions. AEP Texas, the ROE for AEP Texas at the end of the first quarter 2018 was 10.1% versus 10% last quarter. AEP Texas, their steady ROE is primarily attributable to favorable regulatory treatment in Texas with the ability to file annual DCRF and TCOS filings. AEP Transmission Holdco continues to do well. At the end of the first quarter was 12.9%, and it's slightly better than the fourth quarter due to benefits from tax reform and some timing matters.

Generally, while it looks like there's a trough there, we fully expect that to continue to improve with the rate case outcomes that we put in place. This has been a normal quarter financially, but an outstanding quarter overall from the execution standpoint that sets the tone for 2018 and beyond. With several rate case outcomes and settlements regarding Wind Catcher behind us, as Rush's classic rock song, "Red Barchetta," which Red Barchetta is a car, it's a two-seater Italian car, would say, "It's time to strip away the old debris, fire up the shiny red Barchetta, and respond with a roar." That's what I see in the excitement and energy of our teams of employees at this company, working on projects such as Wind Catcher and other technology advancements that will change the face of AEP's interaction with our customers.

To paraphrase one of the latest Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees, Bon Jovi, and I know this phrase will stick with you the rest of the day, we're halfway there, living on a prayer, take our hand and we'll make it, we swear. Enjoy the ride with American Electric Power. Brian?

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Thank you, Nick, and good morning, everyone. I will take us through the financial results for the quarter, provide some insight on loading the economy, review our balance sheet and liquidity, and finish with an update on tax reform. Let's begin on slide six, which shows that operating earnings for the first quarter were $0.96 per share or $473 million, comparable to last year's results. All of our regulated segments experienced growth for the quarter, and as expected, our competitive generation and marketing business was down due to last year's asset sales. Looking at the drivers by segment, earnings for the vertically integrated utilities were $0.47 per share, up $0.02. Most of the $0.12 increase in weather was driven by the warm 2017 winter. Rate changes were also favorable due to the recovery of incremental investment across multiple jurisdictions.

Offsetting these favorable items were anticipated decreases in our wholesale load, as well as increased O&M and depreciation expenses. The transmission and distribution utility segment earned $0.25 per share, up $0.01 from last year. Favorable drivers in this segment included higher normalized load, weather, and rate changes, each contributing $0.01. Partially offsetting these favorable items were higher O&M and depreciation expenses. The AEP Transmission Holdco segment continued to grow, contributing $0.21 per share, an improvement of $0.07 from last year. This growth in earnings reflected our return on incremental rate base as well as other items, including a true-up of the FERC Section 206 settlement and other small non-recurring items. Our investment in this segment grew by $1.7 billion since last March.

Generation and Marketing produced earnings of $0.08 per share, down $0.10 from last year, primarily due to the sale of assets. Corporate and other was down $0.04 per share from last year due to higher interest in O&M expenses and a prior year investment gain. Overall, we experienced a solid quarter and are confident in reaffirming our annual operating earnings guidance. Let's turn to slide seven for an update on normalized load growth. Starting in the lower right chart, our normalized retail sales increased by 1.5%, which is similar to last quarter. For the first time since 2011, we experienced normalized load growth across all three major retail classes. Moving clockwise, industrial sales increased by 2.5% for the quarter. Each of our top 10 industrial sectors reported growth versus last year for the first time in years.

The sectors that posted the strongest growth this quarter were pipeline transportation, oil and gas extraction, and primary metals. The impact of tax reform, higher energy prices, and a stronger global economy, as well as a weaker dollar, have all combined to create a positive environment for industrial sales. In the upper left chart, normalized residential sales were up 1.4% for the quarter. The chart shows improvement in residential sales over the past year. The growth is spread across both the vertically integrated and T&D utility segments. Customer accounts were up 0.5% compared to last year, which is the strongest we've seen since 2015. Weather-normalized usage was also up 0.9% this quarter and is correlated with the recent improvement in incomes, which I'll discuss in more detail on the next slide.

In the upper right chart, commercial sales for the quarter increased by 0.5%. This is the first time since 2016 that our commercial class reported growth, which was largely concentrated in Ohio and our western service territory. We continue to expect modest gains in commercial sales in 2018. Let's move to slide eight and review the status of our regional economies. As shown in the upper left chart, GDP growth in AEP's service territory exceeded the U.S. by 0.4% in the first quarter. In fact, the economy in AEP's service territory has been growing at a faster pace than the U.S. for the past year. The upper right chart shows that employment growth in AEP's service territory continues to close in on that of the U.S.

For the quarter, job growth in AEP's service territory was at 1.1%, with higher growth in our western territory than our eastern. While employment growth has continued to improve, unemployment rates in our footprint are at their lowest level since 2000. The bottom chart on this page shows growth in personal income. In the first quarter, income growth within AEP's service area was seven-tenths of a percent greater than the U.S. Rising customer incomes was a key driver for the increase in residential sales. Let's move to slide nine and review the company's capitalization and liquidity. Our debt-to-total capital ratio increased 1.1% during the quarter to 56.6%. Our FFO-to-debt ratio was solidly in the Baa1 range at 18.2%, and our net liquidity stood at about $1.3 billion, supported by our revolving credit facility.

Our qualified pension funding improved to 102%, and our OPEB funding improved to 131%. For both plans, the funded status improved due to rising interest rates, driving an increase in liabilities that more than offset asset losses. Let's turn to slide 10 and I'll update the tax reform information that I provided earlier in the year. In regards to the change in the statutory corporate rate, we either had regulatory orders in place or filed settlements to reflect the lower rate in Indiana, Kentucky, Oklahoma, and FERC transmission for our eastern states. In our remaining regulated jurisdictions, we are deferring the difference between the old and new rate for future adjustment. Trackers and formula rate filings will accommodate this change in Louisiana, AEP Texas, and Ohio.

We have updated the slide to show that as of March 31st, we have approximately $1 billion of excess deferred income tax, which is not associated with appreciable assets and will flow back to customers at a tenor set by each jurisdiction. Options for passing this benefit to customers include decreasing rates for some period of time, increasing the amortization of regulatory assets, accelerating depreciation, and offsetting items that would otherwise increase rates. We have addressed this issue in our Indiana and East FERC transmission settlements and are working with our remaining jurisdictions to determine the best resolution. As we discussed in January, we reduced our 2020 capital expenditures by $500 million to support our FFO-to-debt ratio, and we reiterated our equity plans, which anticipate raising $100 million in 2018 and 2019 and $500 million in 2020.

As a reminder, this plan does not include provisions for Wind Catcher. In addition to this slide, there is more detail on slide 23 of the presentation. Go ahead and wrap this up on slide 11 so we can get to your questions. We'll finalize our pending rate cases, obtain clarity on the Wind Catcher project, and continue working with regulators to provide the best solution for customers regarding tax reform. Our performance in the first quarter and the stability of our regulated business model gives us the confidence to reaffirm our operating earnings guidance range of $3.75 to $3.95 per share. With that, I will turn the call over to the operator for your questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone indicating you have been placed in queue. You may remove yourself from this queue by depressing the pound key. Once again, for any questions, press star one. Our first question is from the line of Greg Gordon with Evercore. Please go ahead.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore

Good morning, guys. Several questions for you. I'll try to make them brief. First is congrats on the Wind Catcher settlement in Oklahoma. You have a couple parties on board, you have many more that have not officially signed on. Can you give us some color around the negotiations there and what on the margin you have conceded to give up in this settlement to give customer protections versus the prior deal and what it might take to get more parties on board?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah, Greg, obviously, great question. We continue to try to get other parties on board, as we said from the beginning, it was extremely important to get the industrials on board in Oklahoma. I think by getting them on board, it certainly sets the predicate for the opportunity for the commissioners themselves to look at this and say, "Okay, we got both the industrial customers and Walmart, and the customers have spoken." There are other parties, as you mentioned, certainly we're trying to get the Oklahoma staff engaged in this process. Certainly the attorney general, probably not likely to get the attorney general on board. Others, we'll continue to be open to that, including the attorney general. At this point, though, I think it's framed up pretty well, because a lot of work's been done in the background.

Our people have been working tirelessly with all these parties around the various jurisdictions to try to drive some consistency around what the risks were being taken. A lot of it's centered on the 10-year look-backs, the performance guarantees, certainly the force majeure-related provisions as well. As we looked at it, as I mentioned early on in our discussion, if you're going to do regulated renewables, then certainly we'll have to meet the market on what risks are being taken relative to regulated renewable investment. We looked at it in a lot of detail. We have, as I mentioned earlier, engineering, construction. We looked at that in detail, the operational characteristics of particularly the generation gen-tie. We've come a long way in terms of the evaluation of those risks. We were willing to take it, the industrials were ultimately supportive.

I think it just sets the tone for continued discussions. As far as I'm concerned, we've put it in a very good place. You'll note that those provisions are pretty consistent with the settlements that have been done previously by SPS over in New Mexico and Texas. We're having discussions with the Texas parties now. You're starting to see, in my opinion, a coalition around what risk parameters, what the framework of a deal looks like, and I see that momentum gaining.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore

I'll come up with that. I think that's great. Two more questions. One is on when you look at the equalizer chart in Oklahoma, I know PSO on a trailing 12 only earned 5.2%, and the rate decision you got there wasn't great, but it was better than the skinny yields that Oklahoma traditionally gives. If we were to extrapolate out 12 months, would you still expect PSO's ROE to improve dramatically, if not towards your best-case aspiration? Is that fair?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

The odd part about it is if Wind Catcher gets approved, ultimately it's going to help the ROE overall because PSO has a really small rate base. Essentially, no generation's been built there for quite a period of time. You're really dealing with a wires company with a lot of PPAs for generation. The rate base itself has dwindled to really pretty small. It's less than 5% of the earnings of the corporation. When you think about where PSO is heading, if Oklahoma really wants to develop infrastructure around these types of energy assets to take advantage of wind power, natural gas Certainly indigenous sources for that territory. We're going to have to see positive signals on those types of investments, and they really do need to fix the issue of recovering transmission costs as well on a timely basis.

A lot of it's rate lag type of activity. It took a long time for the last rate case, and actually, the rate case pretty much turned out to be very disappointing. I was really expecting more from the Oklahoma Commission from that perspective. I think there were a lot of issues that were being dealt with there that hopefully next time we'll be able to get over, and we will be filing another rate case in Oklahoma. Certainly, the Wind Catcher approval is what we have our sights on right now.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore

My last question is on page nine, we look at the credit statistics. Obviously on a trailing basis, you're 18.2% FFO, tax reform really hasn't kicked in yet. I know you say the target is the mid-teens, all things being equal, if we look out 12 months, how much of a degradation in that FFO are we looking at? Is it a couple hundred basis points?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Brian.

We think it'll be 200 to 300 basis points, yeah.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore

Okay. Thank you, guys.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yep. Sure thing.

Operator

We go to the line of Steve Fleishman with Wolfe Research. Steve, go ahead.

Steve Fleishman
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Yeah. Hi, good morning.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Good morning.

Steve Fleishman
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Speaking of living on prayer, I have a few Wind Catcher questions. Sorry, I couldn't help you ask for that one.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah, I know. It's better to not do the arts.

Steve Fleishman
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Yeah. Thank you for the Rush references. Those are great. Just if I recall back last fall, you had talked about wanting decisions by April to make sure that you would have it online to get the full PTCs.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah.

Steve Fleishman
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Is May, June going to be okay to be able to capture full PTCs? What is a real deadline?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah, we'll be fine. Really, we have to get to a point of getting these orders in place, then we'll cover it with our board, obviously, in our July meeting. Then, once they approve, we're off and running. If we get it in that June timeframe, get the orders in the May to June timeframe, we'll be in good shape.

Steve Fleishman
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Okay. Just, you're purposely very focused on making sure you're not taking on risks that are not typical of a regulated investment. I know you just did this, just when you look at the main risks that you're kind of protecting from, could you just clarify what those are?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah, I think, certainly the 10-year look back, because obviously the customers want to see a benefit, and we're convinced there will be a benefit. That goes to the operations of the facilities. The 10-year look back obviously measures the benefits that customers see. That analysis is based upon our existing generation. We feel pretty good about how that would work out. When you look at the force majeure provisions, those are really focused on you have to look at sort of the force majeure risk compared to the production guarantees. The production guarantees are such that we look at this operational from an engineering standpoint, and we feel like that there's risk mitigation associated with the production guarantees that enable us to take on more risk as it relates to force majeure.

Obviously, that goes to the production guarantee, the capacity factor guarantee. We feel very comfortable about that as well because we've been in that territory for a long time. We know how to build transmission. We know how to run transmission. If a tornado came through, it could take down a couple of structures or whatever, but we're used to doing that. We know the timeframe of doing that. For the facilities themselves, obviously It really is pretty good from a diversity standpoint. It's not like a central station generation facilities. It's a bunch of small generators sitting up on poles, and that really gives us an opportunity to mitigate risk on an aggregate standpoint from that perspective as well.

When we look at it, we are convinced that we're able to deliver the production guarantees, but also have the ability to adjust if necessary. All in all, I'd say the rewards at this point certainly outweigh the risk.

Steve Fleishman
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Okay. Thank you.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yep.

Operator

Next we go to the line of Jonathan Arnold with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Morning, Jonathan.

Jonathan Arnold
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hey, good morning, guys. The first question, I think you mentioned that you have addressed the excess deferred tax in the Indiana and East FERC settlements. How much of the $1 billion does that speak to?

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

One second, Greg. About $125 million.

Jonathan Arnold
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Sure.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Okay.

Jonathan Arnold
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

I think you've given some guidance in the past in terms of what timeframe you thought was a reasonable rule of thumb for this, or what you'd seen in the 1986 case. Any updated thoughts around that?

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Yeah. I think if you assume 10 years, you'll probably be in about the right place.

Jonathan Arnold
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Perfect. Okay. Thank you. Just on sales, Brian, I may have missed this. At one point, I think you said you were going to have a little additional commentary on the residential piece and the 1.4% in the first quarter, which obviously is bucking the trend. Did you have some follow-up comment on that? Was it rather normalization kind of tricky this quarter?

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

No, I think that's pretty much on track. The places where we're seeing it, though, Greg, is in the places where we're just P&B utilities. We're seeing it more in Texas and Ohio, and that's why you're not seeing as much uplift in revenue, is because it's just in the places where we are wires only. It's mostly in the places where we're wires only. While we're encouraged by this, given where it's coming from in the mix of those sales, we're not getting a huge amount of uplift in regards to net income because of that residential increase.

Jonathan Arnold
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, great. Thanks very much, guys.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Thank you.

Operator

Next, we go to the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Good morning, Julien.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Hey, good morning.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Morning.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

So, perhaps, to turn the attention slightly attention slightly differently here. I understand that you received your order in Ohio and you've got the ESP under control and out there. To what ability is there to negotiate and address the tax issue still? Is there a need to at this point? I just wanted to come back to that. It seems like you've largely addressed the issues there, but I just want to come back to that, given there's not an obvious venue to address that directly, notwithstanding reopening these issues. I just want to understand.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Julien, specifically Ohio?

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Yeah, you said Ohio. Exactly.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah. We have two avenues for addressing that. One is just the absolute change in rate, which I think we can handle in the DIR filings. Also what the commission's done is asked us as well as the other Ohio utilities-

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Yeah

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

to come in and have a dialogue with them about that. They've set up a hearing mechanism whereby all of the Ohio utilities will go in and have a dialogue. I think we'll be able to put together something that is compelling and doesn't have to be litigious. I think we'll be able to settle that.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Got it. Excellent. Turning back to Wind Catcher real quickly. Obviously, you're working every state front. To the extent to which, let's say, Texas and those negotiations aren't necessarily as fruitful here on the prescribed timeline that you just talked about, how confident are you about signing up alternatives like munis and co-ops just to be able to continue working on the project, notwithstanding clarity in Texas, shall we say?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah, Julien, I really think we are going to get a result in Texas. I think it'd be problematic and you're in the pendency of something that's working to go sell somewhere else. We're feeling pretty good about the direction this all is taking and the timing of it.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Got it. Maybe actually, if you could clarify, I would suspect that the issues are largely the same as you just described a moment ago.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

across the various states. Is there anything unique with respect to Texas? Obviously, the industrial interveners there have historically been fairly outspoken as well.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

I think as far as Texas is concerned, the industrials in Texas, you have some of the people who represent them, the same people. I think you've got certainly different industrials with different thought processes. When you think about the settlement that was done with SPS and how it compares against what we've done relative to the Oklahoma industrials, it's pretty much the same. SPS settled with all the parties in Texas. I think we have an opportunity. We knew going into this thing that with four states, there'd be some commonality in that. In fact, the four states have, in most cases, most favored nations and that kind of thing. They're all watching each other in terms of the result. We have a result in Oklahoma and the other jurisdictions that is consistent with what is happening in Texas at this point.

I think we're in good shape.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

All right. Excellent. Well, best of luck.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yep. Thank you.

Operator

Next, we go to the line of Paul Ridzon with KeyBank. Please go ahead.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Good morning. Can you hear me?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Good morning, Paul.

Yes, we can hear you.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Two questions. Is there a statutory deadline in any of the Wind Catcher states when this has to be done by?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

I don't think there's a statutory deadline, but certainly there's a business deadline. We've been very transparent about the timing necessary, and the procedural schedules have been set up consistent with getting a decision on time. I think it's really more driven by, I guess one of the previous questions sort of brought out, when is our drop-dead date and that kind of thing. I can just tell you that May and June fits

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Some of the concessions you've made are around cost caps. Who's wearing that risk? Is it you or the contractors?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah. It's both. We have fixed-price contracts with the appropriate contingencies, and I think that risk is being shared. Actually, that tells you a little bit about the commitment of the suppliers that we're working with. These are established suppliers that do a lot of business, that we do a lot of business with. I can guarantee a lot of homework's been done on what these operational provisions will look like, what the construction side will look like, what the supply will look like, what risks are being borne. Also, even if route changes were to occur on the generation side, those have been discussed ad nauseam as well. We feel very good about where our suppliers sit at this point.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

We're not building nuclear plants here?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

We're not building nuclear plants. I wouldn't want to trash nuclear or anything because I'm supportive of nuclear. This is putting small generators up on poles and putting transmission structures up and lines up, and we do that all the time. 765, we do that all the time. This is not something that is a first stamp number one. The other thing, too, is that when we look at this entire project, it is definitely important to AEP because it represents what we're capable of doing. When you introduce 765 kV in that part of the country, it could be a tremendous benefit in the future, not just from an economic development standpoint, but also in terms of our ability to continue to serve our customers and serve them well.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

One last question. If you addressed this, I'll circle back with Bette Jo, transmission was very strong in the quarter. What was driving that?

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

There was obviously the FERC Section 206 settlement was a contributor to that. Tax reform also contributed to that in that the rate base goes up higher with the ADIT not going into rates. Those two factors mainly contributed to that increase.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Did all of this hit in the first quarter, or are we going to continue to see those, at least on the tax reform, throughout the year?

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

We expect an uplift of about $0.04 versus what we've shown you at EEI over the course of the whole year. $0.04-$0.05.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Thank you very much.

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Thank you.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Sure thing.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

No problem.

Operator

Next we go to the line of Praful Mehta with Citi. Please go ahead.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Hi, Praful.

Thanks so much. Hi, guys.

How you doing?

Praful Mehta
Analyst, Citi

Good. How are you?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Just fine.

Praful Mehta
Analyst, Citi

Excellent. Quickly, just on the deferred income taxes. On the unconnected one, I think, Brian, you mentioned 10 years as a possible assumption for refund. We've also heard from other utilities who are paying it back a lot sooner. I just want to understand, is that mostly an assumption of the negotiation, or is that a preference from your end to kind of draw it out over a longer period? Because there are benefits to kind of growing rate base as you're kind of refunding back as well.

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Yeah. You're going to see everything from much quicker than that to much slower than that across our 11 jurisdictions. The data point that I have is what we were able to do in Indiana, where we were able to increase the depreciation on some of our coal units there and have that be the factor by which we slow back the excess. That was a 10-year period. If you're modeling something across the system, I think 10 years would be a pretty good assumption.

Praful Mehta
Analyst, Citi

Gotcha. Your preference is not to do it sooner as well, just so I understand from a financial perspective.

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Our preference really is to do it on a jurisdiction-by-jurisdiction basis, right? When we talk about taking down reg assets, when we talk about fuel, when we talk about other things that are going to increase rates, it's really going to be jurisdiction by jurisdiction as to what the best way for those customers is for them to receive that benefit. We're going to work with interveners and commissions and try and be as constructive as we possibly can on a jurisdiction-by-jurisdiction basis.

Praful Mehta
Analyst, Citi

Gotcha. Fair enough. That's helpful. Just quickly, just strategically, more from corporate M&A perspective. The conversation has increased a little bit given tax reforms behind, it also looks like companies who are better positioned, like yourselves, with stronger credit going into tax reform, have a competitive advantage. Do you see that at all? Do you see any dialogue increasing, and how are you looking at strategic M&A at this point?

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Let me just address the financial aspect of it, and I'll let Nick address the strategic aspect of it. When we're looking at our balance sheet, when you look at our credit metrics, and they are very healthy now, we do expect them to go back into the normal range for a Baa1-rated company due to the impact of tax reform. We're very strong right now. We had anticipated being a taxpayer. That's gone away to a large degree with the impact of tax reform, Wind Catcher, and other such things. Because of the impacts of tax reform, we do anticipate, as we talked about earlier in the call in the question and answer period, that FFO-to-debt to come in 200 to 300 basis points over the next year or so.

We anticipate consuming that cushion that you might see there otherwise, and I'll let Bill comment on the strategic component.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yes. We are in the middle of what I would call an M&A transaction without a premium. It's called Wind Catcher. When we look at the strength of the balance sheet, certainly we'll be looking at the financing needs for Wind Catcher. That's a $4.5 billion transaction. That's where our thoughts are at this point.

Praful Mehta
Analyst, Citi

Gotcha. Thanks so much, guys. Appreciate it.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Thank you.

Operator

Next is the line of Ali Agha with SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Morning, Ali.

Ali Agha
Analyst, SunTrust

Good morning. Nick, to clarify, as you're looking at the four states for approval in Wind Catcher, is it fair to say that, just given where we are, that Oklahoma probably is the most challenged of the four? Related to that, could you theoretically complete the project if the other three states say yes and Oklahoma was to say no?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

On the first point, I would agree with you. Oklahoma's been the most challenging, and really, with the ALJ order there, it made even more of a challenge for the commissioners to really take a look at it from a positive standpoint. I really believe they will, at the end of the day, because they obviously look at much broader issues. With that said, I think as far as Wind Catcher is concerned, we intend on this project being for those four states and certainly the FERC customers. There are some FERC customers too that are involved. If one were to fall out, we're in a good place in terms of the transition of getting this thing across the finish line. At this point, we really aren't entertaining the notion of going forward with the project without one of the jurisdictions.

I really don't see that happening.

Ali Agha
Analyst, SunTrust

I see. Second question. Brian, I wanted to clarify if I heard you right. You were mentioning that when you're looking at your transmission earnings for 2018, you're now thinking they'll come in about $0.04-$0.05 better than what you had indicated was back at EEI. Is there anything offsetting that, or in the context of the year, should we see that as an offset cushion that may, if things play out, cause you to move to the right or above your midpoint of your range?

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

That's a good question, Ali. It's really early in the year, and in a company as big as ours, we're going to have pluses and minuses across the year as things go on. We wouldn't anticipate any change at this point to what our guidance is. That's just one area that is up versus what we had anticipated. There are others that are down, and we'll lay those out to you as we go through the year on a quarterly basis.

Ali Agha
Analyst, SunTrust

Yeah. Last question. Can you also remind us, relative to the rate increase that you had assumed in your 2018 guidance, how much of that is currently locked in?

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

We have about 75% of it's currently locked in.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

75%.

Ali Agha
Analyst, SunTrust

Got it. Thank you.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Okay. Thank you, Ali.

Operator

Next we go to the line of Paul Patterson with Glenrock Associates. Please go ahead.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Good morning, Paul.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

Good morning. How are you?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Just fine.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

Just to sort of quickly follow up here on Wind Catcher. What are the key issues that are maybe stopping the OCC staff and others from coming on board?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Your guess is as good as mine. I think, obviously, the ALJ looked at it from a procedural basis, it seemed like to me. We're pretty convinced we did fall under the RECA provisions under Oklahoma law. Obviously, we'll continue with discussions with certainly the Oklahoma staff. I really do believe we put provisions in place with the industrials that should benefit that discussion with them. Obviously, to have that kind of company of the customers certainly would help from a policy side and from a staff side to really take a hard look at this. The verdict's still out on that, and we'll continue those discussions.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

Okay. In Oklahoma, there's this tax issue on wind, I guess with respect to it's intertwined with school funding, and there was something that passed the House yesterday. I was just wondering, how would that work with respect to the settlement? With respect to the project? Does it have any impact? Could you give sort of a sense about that?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Well, it won't have any impact on the project. It got poured out of the legislature yesterday. We don't see that happening.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

I thought it passed the House, is what I just saw. The provision for the tax credit, I thought it was removed. We can talk about it later. What you're saying is you don't see any activity on that whatsoever.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

No.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

Okay. If something like that did happen, though, since it's been sort of debated and what have you, and the school funding issue, in terms of the settlement, would that be something that you guys would absorb, or would that be something that How would that be treated if there was subsequently some sort of impact on wind generation in Oklahoma as a result of something that the state legislature may or may not do in the future?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah. There is that risk, but not likely. The state tax credit wasn't assumed in the Wind Catcher economics to begin with. If something were to occur, it wouldn't have any effect.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

Okay. I got you. Okay. I think maybe that's what was in there. Maybe that's what I'm confused with.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

Okay, great. That's it. I really appreciate it. Thanks so much, Nick.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Sure thing, Paul.

Operator

Next, we go to the line of Christopher Kimura with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Morning, Christopher.

Christopher Kimura
Analyst, JP Morgan

Morning, guys. I just wanted to get your latest thoughts on the potential for grid modernization spend in Ohio. Previously, I think you talked about $500 million of incremental potential versus your current plan. If you get the green light there, the Commission has been going through, exploring the process generically for the whole state, and I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah. The $500 million was for the entire system, because when we presented that at EEI, if we were able to move forward with grid modernization in all those jurisdictions, it was an incremental $500 million. Certainly, Ohio, the order sort of sets up the tone to really have that discussion, because the more we move in the technological front and the more we move into optimization and efficiencies around the grid, we'll be able to have those kinds of discussions. I think yesterday's order of the Ohio Commission was a first step in that process. I think it bodes well for Ohio, and certainly we'll use that pattern in the rest of our system as well. Right now, there's nothing incremental on the $500 million. That was a distribution investment rider and those kinds of things. Those issues were already in place.

We'll obviously continue to have that dialogue.

Christopher Kimura
Analyst, JP Morgan

Okay. You mentioned, I think towards 2018 year-end, the gap between the SEET earnings test in Ohio and the actual earned ROE calculation narrowing. Can you quantify potentially the impact on earnings that that alone would have in 2019? Ron?

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

We anticipate it ultimately being around 10%, and that's factored into what it is we've guided you to. There's no incremental change to that.

Christopher Kimura
Analyst, JP Morgan

Okay. Fair enough. Thanks, guys.

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Yeah, sure.

Operator

Next we go to the line of Michael Lapides with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Hey, Michael.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Morning, Nick. Thank you for taking my question.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Looking at the cash flow slides in the appendix, the three-year forecast, and this isn't new information, but just curious. You talk about needing more equity in 2020, but your cash flow actually gets a lot better in 2020, by like $1 billion, if you just use cash from ops minus cash from investing activities. Are you being overly conservative when thinking about 2020? Is the equity really something that might need to come a little bit earlier? It's not a big amount, but you're pretty cash negative for the next two years, and then it gets a lot better. Is this all just kind of prepping for Wind Catcher?

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

No. What you see on slide 25 really doesn't include Wind Catcher. What we're looking at is what happens to our FFO-to-debt over time and trying to time, like you've seen others do, any equity needs with when they're actually needed and not take the dilutive effect of that sooner than we need to. We are going to let our FFO-to-debt metric deteriorate maybe 2 to 300 basis points, get down into that Baa1 range. We anticipate needing to bolster that a little bit, but not before the 2020 time frame.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Can I ask, what's in that slide? What is your assumption in there for the return of the excess ADIT, the $1 billion? The only reason I ask that is one of your neighbors in Louisiana and Arkansas is under a much faster, and I think one of my colleagues asked this earlier, but their timeline for returning the excess ADIT is actually a really quick one, like 1-3 years. I am just trying to think about what you have assumed or embedded in your guidance on cash flow for that.

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

It just assumes 7-10 years.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay. If it is quicker than that of the return of the excess ADIT, that would negatively weigh on cash and might either bring forward the equity need or raise the equity need.

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

If the change in cash flow-

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Okay. Finally, Nick, you mentioned about the West Virginia rate case filing. How are you thinking about what structural changes in West Virginia you might ask for? Whether you do it in the case filing or whether you do it in some legislative effort. It's a state with traditional historical cash flows, little bit of lag. Just trying to think about how you're thinking big picture there.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah, we haven't proposed any structural changes in West Virginia. I think probably, all that West Virginia's been through and going through now from an economic standpoint, we really are focused on ensuring that our rate cases are followed. They're very efficient. They certainly are focused on making sure that we're doing the right things by what we believe, in terms of service quality to our customers in West Virginia. I think we'll probably ought to stick to that approach in West Virginia for the time being. So we haven't presupposed any structural changes.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

When we think about the next seven or eight months, eight or nine months in 2018, how are you thinking about where else sizable general rate case filings may occur?

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Well, really the only ones would be West Virginia and Oklahoma. Everything else has really flushed itself out this quarter. So we're pretty clean going forward from a regulatory standpoint.

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Of course, Mike, we'll have our usual portfolio-based rate filings in places like transmission and Ohio and other places.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Thank you.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Mark, I would say on your previous question, too. We had Virginia, recently in the quarter, they also dismissed a case that would've been for 2 wind power projects. As Virginia thinks differently than West Virginia, the more we see that from a supply perspective, that's going to be an important data point for us as we go into these cases, how to deal with that. That would probably be the extent of the structural question, just brought up that issue in my mind of how resources are being seen differently in the two jurisdictions and of APCo, and we'll have to try to draw some consistency there.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Thank you, Nick. Thanks, Brian. Much appreciated, guys.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Thank you.

Bette Jo Rozsa
Managing Director of Investor Relations, American Electric Power

Operator, we have time for one more question.

Operator

Great. Go ahead to the line of Angie Storozynski with Macquarie. Please go ahead.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Good morning, Angie.

Angie Storozynski
Analyst, Macquarie

Good morning. I am surprisingly have a question about Wind Catchers. We've seen a number of renegotiations of wind equipment contracts by utilities, by different developers and OEMs, with OEMs seemed willing. Now that you have this caps on the cost of the projects, and then you have the performance guarantees, couldn't you just go back to GE and say, "Okay, well, this is the reality we're facing. As such, we need to actually get a cap on the equipment cost, and also maybe you can provide us with a performance guarantee for the wind turbine.

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Yeah. Angie, whether it's Invenergy, GE, or Quanta, all of our partners have skin in the game on this, they are being very proactive in how they're helping us manage the risk of things like caps relative to the cost of equipment, relative to tax impacts they might have, relative to other increases and decreases in their costs. It's very much of a partnership, rather than a traditional supplier relationship. They are working very proactively with us on all those issues.

Angie Storozynski
Analyst, Macquarie

Okay. Basically, the true risk is more of the timing of the construction of the transmission line. I mean, if all of the other factors are really, in a sense, mitigated, right? The cost of construction of the wind farm, the operating, or NCF of the wind farm. It's really the transmission line that is more of a risky part of the project?

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

It's all the things that you would think in a project. It's cost and schedule. We have some of the cost mitigated through the partnerships that we have with our suppliers, they're also helping us to mitigate the schedule component of it as well. It's what you would expect in a project of this size and scope. We need to bring it in at cost, on budget and on schedule, we have experienced partners who are working with us to help us do that.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah, we mitigate pieces of the risk, too, because we're acquiring the plant in commercial operation. Invenergy is obviously doing their work associated with that. It's been well thought out. Going to your earlier point, though, we obviously are paying particular attention to the generation interconnection or you call it transmission. That piece of it to ensure from a supplier perspective, we're in good shape. We've had conversations with, certainly, their executive leadership about the importance of the arrangement we have in place. I think in terms of routing That work continues in earnest, and alternatives are considered in earnest. When you look at the construction side and the risk being taken, we're in really good shape.

Angie Storozynski
Analyst, Macquarie

Okay, the last question is, you mentioned that now that the new tax regime, you won't be paying taxes for longer, cash taxes. What happens with the PTCs and accelerated depreciation generated by this project? Maybe you said that, are you using a tax equity investor or are you considering using one?

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Right now we don't anticipate needing one, we are monitoring very closely our tax appetite with our ability to use the PTCs as we take on a project the size of Wind Catcher and trying to make sure those things match up. That's something that's contemplated in the settlements that we're talking about. To the degree that we're not able to use them on the same time, there will be an ability to defer the tax asset and some recovery on it.

Angie Storozynski
Analyst, Macquarie

Okay. Thank you.

Brian X. Tierney
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Thank you.

Nicholas K. Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Thank you.

Bette Jo Rozsa
Managing Director of Investor Relations, American Electric Power

Thank you, everyone, for joining us on today's call. As always, the IR team will be available to answer any additional questions you may have. Leah, would you please give the replay information?

Operator

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