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Earnings Call: Q3 2021

Oct 28, 2021

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to your American Electric Power Third Quarter 2021 earnings conference call. At this time, your telephone lines are in a listen-only mode. Later, there will be an opportunity for questions and answers. If you would like to ask a question during the call, please press one, then zero on your touchtone phone. You will hear an indication you've been placed into queue, and you may remove yourself from the queue by repeating the one, then zero command. If you're on a speakerphone, we ask that you please pick up your handset and to please make certain your phone is unmuted before you press any buttons. As a reminder, your conference call today is being recorded. I'll now turn the conference call over to your host, Vice President of Investor Relations, Darcy Reese. Go ahead, please.

Darcy Reese
VP of Investor Relations, American Electric Power

Thank you, Alan. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the third quarter 2021 earnings call for American Electric Power. We appreciate you taking the time to join us today. Our earnings release, presentation slides, and related financial information are available on our website at aep.com. Today, we will be making forward-looking statements during the call. There are many factors that may cause future results to differ materially from these statements. Please refer to our SEC filings for a discussion of these factors. Joining me this morning for opening remarks are Nick Akins, our Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, and Julie Sloat, our Chief Financial Officer. We will take your questions following their remarks. I will now turn the call over to Nick.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Okay, thanks, Darcy. Welcome again, everyone, to American Electric Power's third quarter 2021 earnings call. Today, we are pleased to report a strong third quarter operating earnings of $1.43 per share for the third quarter. This brings our year-to-date operating earnings to $3.76 per share versus $3.56 per share last year, which gives us confidence in raising the midpoint of our guidance range for 2021. AEP service territory continues to prove its resiliency and stability with continued economic recovery experienced in the third quarter. In fact, AEP posted its strongest sales quarter in over a decade, and the gross regional product for the AEP footprint in the third quarter was the highest on record, as well as job growth being the strongest since 1984.

The strength and diversity of our portfolio, the robustness of our organic growth opportunities, and our consistent ability to execute against our plan places AEP among what we believe should be one of the country's premium regulated utilities. Our strong performance this quarter, coupled with the level of economic recovery experienced within our footprint, provides us once again the confidence needed to raise our midpoint to $4.70 per share and narrow the 2021 guidance range to $4.65-$4.75 while reaffirming our 5%-7% long-term earnings growth rate. As I've stated previously, I would still be disappointed if we were not in that upper half of our long-term growth rate. The driver of our strong performance is the talent and commitment of our employees.

Our frontline essential service work teams have continued to adapt to ensure the needs of our customers and communities are met day in and day out throughout the pandemic. Like many industries, the face of work for AEP will never be the same. As employees return to the office, we have taken actions to ensure the safe return to the workplace environment. I remain appreciative of the dedication of our employees and have the utmost confidence in their continuing ability to successfully check and adjust as we adapt to the future. We believe that this new work environment will continue to enable more efficiency, flexibility, and creativity that will contribute to the culture that excels in meeting our strategic objectives. This new future of work, along with digitization and automation, will continue to provide benefits for our Achieving Excellence program.

Our growth opportunities over the next decade are significant, driven by our future forward renewables plan of over 16 gigawatts of new renewables resources by 2030, and the transmission and distribution investments needed to support the needs of a clean energy economy for our customers and communities. Additionally, the completion of the strategic review of our Kentucky companies and our decision to move forward with a sale to Liberty Utilities enables us to focus our attention on executing that transaction and delivering on our growth strategy. Let's cover the announced sale of Kentucky Power. Earlier this week, on Tuesday at market close, we announced the sale of Kentucky Power and Kentucky Transco to Liberty Utilities, the regulated utility operation of Algonquin Power. The sale is a result of the strategic review that we launched back in April.

The sale is subject to regulatory approvals, including approvals from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, which is within 180 days, and the Kentucky Public Service Commission within 120 days. The transaction is also subject to federal clearance pursuant to Hart-Scott-Rodino, which typically is within 30-60 days, and the clearance from the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States within 90-120 days for that approval. We anticipate making these regulatory filings in late November and early December. Separately, we will file with both the Kentucky, West Virginia, and FERC commissions the necessary changes to the Mitchell Plant operating agreement to accommodate the ELG investments recently approved by the West Virginia Commission. The following will include a plan to resolve the question of Mitchell ownership post-2028.

Both state commissions are expecting these filings as both issued recent orders directing us to do so. These filings will be made in the mid to late November timeframe. We're also very pleased with the outcome of the strategic review and know that the future owner of our Kentucky assets will be a great steward for all stakeholders in Kentucky, our valued employees, customers, and certainly the communities. Lastly, I want to thank all the Kentucky employees and the corporate support employees for their patience during this review and for their continued focus on safety and operational excellence during this period and as the transaction is completed. Now, moving to several of the regulatory activities. In Ohio, we expect an order in the fourth quarter on the settlement reached and filed with the commission earlier this year.

As a reminder, the settlement has broad support from the settling parties, including the commission staff, the Ohio Consumers' Counsel, industrial companies, commercial companies, and other entities like the Ohio Hospital Association. Additionally, AEP Ohio's gridSMART phase III settlement was filed yesterday, and it paves the way to continue our deployment of advanced smart grid technologies, including completion of our AMI meter rollout to the remaining 475,000 rural customers. The unopposed settlement, with support from the commission staff, Ohio Consumers' Counsel, and several of our largest customers demonstrates that AEP Ohio continues to maintain a great working relationship with our regulator and interested parties. Public Service Company of Oklahoma reached a settlement in the rate case with the Oklahoma staff and other parties. The settlement was presented to the commission on October 5th.

The black box settlement includes $50.7 million net increase in rates, while adding another $102.7 million in base rates. In addition to continuing the practice of allowing some interim recovery of CapEx riders, the rider collecting for Maverick and Sundance North Central wind assets was also included. An order is expected by year-end, with rates reflected in November bills. In Indiana, I&M followed its base rate case on July 1st based on a future test year model, seeking $97 million in net revenue increase with a 10% ROE.

Major items included recognition of over $500 million in capital investment per year in Indiana, continuation of the transmission tracker, a federal tax rider in the event of a change in federal tax rates, and the advancement of AMI to provide customers greater control and insight into their usage. The hearing is set before the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission on December 2nd, with an order expected by April of 2022. In our Southwestern Electric Power Company jurisdictions, cases are pending in Louisiana, Texas, and Arkansas. The SWEPCO Texas Commission deliberation is set for November 18th. Parties filed exceptions to the preliminary draft order issued by the hearing examiner, and the replies to those exceptions were filed yesterday. SWEPCO is seeking a net revenue increase of $73 million with an ROE of 10.35%.

Our filing includes investments made from February 2018, accelerated depreciation for the Dolet Hills plant, a storm reserve, and increased vegetation management. We expect an order in the fourth quarter, with rates being retroactive back to March 2021. In SWEPCO Louisiana, testimony has been filed, and hearing is scheduled for January 2022. Our case seeks a $73 million net revenue increase and a 10.35% ROE. An order is expected between the second and third quarter of 2022. In SWEPCO Arkansas, we are seeking a $56 million net revenue increase with a 10.35 ROE. The filing contains a formula rate plan for subsequent years and considers the pending retirement of previously announced coal lignite assets.

This filing is timed to align with the North Central in-service dates and to provide a mechanism both for recovery of costs associated with the investment and flow through of the PTC to SWEPCO customers. The hearing is set for March 2022. Both SWEPCO and PSO continue to make progress to recognize the Storm Uri expenditures. As a reminder, we filed for recovery of a WACC return over five years in Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Texas. PSO is moving forward with the state on the securitization of costs as permitted under Oklahoma law. We have continued our efforts to secure approvals and clarity regarding investments necessary to comply with the EPA, CCR and ELG requirements. We received certificates to construct the CCR compliance plans in Virginia, West Virginia, and Kentucky. While West Virginia approved ELG investments, Virginia and Kentucky did not.

West Virginia has since determined it was in the public interest to move forward with ELG investments for all three plants and has issued an order regarding its support of West Virginia investing to preserve the option for these plants to run past 2028, approving both the investment and cost recovery from West Virginia customers. We'll be working with our commissions to implement the West Virginia decision and making necessary adjustments to respect each state's decision. The Virginia Commission asked us to come back with more information, so we'll do that. We plan to lay out all the options before them on how to satisfy their capacity needs. The Virginia SCC approved the first-year revenue requirement of $4.8 million for broadband, which means we now have recovery for our rural broadband efforts in both rural Virginia and West Virginia.

We continue to engage legislators and commissions in other states and stand ready to invest in synergistic mid-mile broadband to support advanced grid technologies and rural broadband for our communities. We also understand it's all about execution. On September 10, AEP began commercial operation of the 287-MW Maverick Wind Energy Center in North Central Oklahoma. Maverick is one of three wind projects that compose the North Central Energy Facilities, which will provide 1,485 MW of clean energy to customers of our PSO and SWEPCO subsidiaries. The Traverse project, the largest single-site wind farm in North America, is well under construction and will come online in the January to April 2022 timeframe.

Transforming the way energy is generated, delivered, and consumed is necessary to support the needs of a clean energy economy, and AEP continues to drive that transformation for the benefit of our customers and communities. With the success of North Central setting the foundation of our future forward regulated renewables platform, we are diligently working on securing additional renewable opportunities for our customers. RFP filings are ongoing and planned in multiple states, so more to come on this as we file for approval of resources as a result of the RFPs that were out in the market, for which some of you probably have heard of. We will be able to provide greater detail on the progress being made. Further, if federal efforts through the various tax proposals to extend and expand PTCs and ITCs for clean energy resources succeed, even more benefits will be enjoyed by our customers.

I'll move quickly to the equalizer chart at this point, and I'll go quickly through this. So far, the average for the overall regulated operations is currently 9%. We generally target in the 9.5%-10% range. Obviously, we continue to work on that. AEP Ohio came in at 9.3% for the third quarter. It was below authorized primarily due to timely recovery of capital investments, partially offset by higher O&M expenses. We expect that ROE to trend around authorized levels as we maintain concurrent capital recovery of distribution and transmission investments. We also, as I mentioned earlier, expect the commission order here in the fourth quarter of 2021. APCO came in at 7.3%.

It's below authorized due to higher amortization primarily related to retired coal-fired generating assets and higher depreciation from increased Virginia depreciation rates and capital investments. As you know, we are still at the appeals court appealing the Virginia Supreme Court, which is currently outstanding. We filed an appeal with that Virginia Supreme Court, so we're still waiting on that. As far as Kentucky is concerned, 6.9% below authorized due to loss of load from weak economic conditions and loss of major customers. Transmission revenues were also lower due to a delay in some capital projects. I&M came in at 10.3%. It's above its authorized ROE, primarily due to increase in sales, partially offset by increased O&M and depreciation expenses associated with I&M's continued capital investment programs. As far as PSO is concerned, came in at 7.6%.

It's below its authorized level, primarily due to increased capital investment currently not in base rates and higher than anticipated equity due to the extreme February winter weather event. Of course, we expect a commission order here on the rate case in the fourth quarter of 2021. SWEPCO came in at 8.2%. It's below authorized due to increased capital investment currently not in base rates and the continued impact of the Arkansas share of the Turk plant that is not in retail rates. Turk issue again accounts for about 110 basis points that we're not recovering in Arkansas. Again, as I mentioned earlier, we expect various commission orders, and particularly in Texas in the fourth quarter of 2021 that's retroactive back to March. AEP Texas came in at 8.2%.

It's below authorized primarily due to the significant level of investment in Texas. Of course, we have favorable regulatory treatment there with annual DCRF and biannual TCOS filings to recover rates. Significant levels of investment in Texas will continue to impact the ROE, but the expectation is for the ROE to trend towards an authorized 9.4% in the longer term. AEP Transmission Holdco came in at 11.2%. It was above authorized primarily driven by differences between actual and forecasted expenses. The Transco's benefit from a forward-looking formula rate mechanism, which helps minimize regulatory lag, and that forecasted ROE is around 11% in 2021. Overall, continue to make progress. Cases, obviously, we're waiting to hear the results of several cases that should provide some additional benefits, but that work continues.

In closing, we're executing on all cylinders and continue to drive the results expected of a premium regulated utility. The AEP portfolio is one that has enabled our investments in the wire side of the business, supporting our transmission investments, including the $0.33 per share this quarter through our AEP Transmission Holdco investments. Our plan to transition our generation fleet and reduce carbon emissions by 80% by 2030 and net zero by 2050 is well underway with two of our three wind facilities of our $2 billion investment in North Central Wind under our belt, providing a solid foundation for the next decade of growth.

Throughout this transition, we remain engaged and a trusted voice on energy transformation efforts, helping to ensure a responsible transition to a clean energy economy, and we'll continue to support federal efforts in that regard and state efforts as well. Finally, our strong quarter performance gives us the confidence again to set our midpoint at $4.70 with a range of $4.65-$4.75, and we continue to have all 17,000 employees dedicated to our customers and communities to enable this strong performance. Our discipline in controlling costs, our progress to manage the portfolio, and the significance of our future organic growth opportunities provides us with the confidence needed in raising the midpoint and narrowing the guidance range. Two weeks ago, I was really struck by the halftime performance of the Ohio State Buckeyes marching band. They set their goals, in my opinion, really, really high.

Never did I expect to see a marching band dedicate their halftime show to the music of Rush. To hear Tom Sawyer, YYZ, Limelight, and others was truly amazing when they are difficult to even play, even though they were also marching while designing guitar players, drums, and other choreography on the field. The creativity and the execution came through to deliver a truly remarkable show. It made me think of our team at AEP.

On November 11th, I've been AEP's CEO for ten years and fortunate to lead a great company of great people who have an outstanding track record of delivering on the promises made to investors and customers consistently year in and year out. We fully expect to continue our drive to take this company to the next level toward a clean energy economy and a solid infrastructure foundation by setting aggressive goals and delivering with creativity and solid execution. With that, I'll turn it over to Julie.

Julie Sloat
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Thanks so much, Nick. Thanks, Darcy. Nick, I love your Buckeye reference. Go Bucks.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

You're welcome.

Julie Sloat
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Yes, I love that. Thank you very much. Big game this weekend. Anyway, it's good to be with everybody this morning. I'm going to walk us through the third quarter and year-to-date financial results, share some updates on our service territory load, and finish with some commentary on financing plans, credit metrics, and liquidity. Let's go to slide six, which shows a comparison of GAAP to operating earnings for the quarter and year-to-date periods. GAAP earnings for the third quarter were $1.59 per share compared to $1.51 per share in 2020. GAAP earnings through September were $3.90 per share compared to $3.56 per share in 2020. There's a reconciliation of GAAP to operating earnings on pages 14 and 15 of the presentation today. Let's go to slide seven, where we can talk about our quarterly operating earnings performance by segment.

Operating earnings for the third quarter totaled $1.43 per share, or $717 million, compared to $1.47 per share, or $728 million in 2020. Operating earnings from the vertically integrated utilities were $0.87 cents per share, up $0.02 cents. Favorable drivers included rate changes across multiple jurisdictions, weather primarily in the West, transmission revenue, and lower income tax. These items were offset somewhat by higher O&M expenses, due in part to lower prior-year O&M, which included actions we took to adjust to the pandemic and higher depreciation expense, as well as lower normalized margins and lower AFUDC. The transmission and distribution utilities segment earned $0.31 cents per share, flat to last year. Favorable drivers in this segment included rate changes, transmission revenue, and income taxes.

Offsetting these favorable items were O&M expenses, again, a function of lower prior-year O&M associated with pandemic-driven efforts, depreciation, and property taxes. The AEP Transmission Holdco segment continued to grow, contributing $0.33 per share. That was an improvement of $0.05, driven by the return on investment growth. Generation and marketing produced $0.04 per share, down $0.09 from last year, influenced by the prior-year land sales, lower retail volumes and margins, generation and income taxes. Finally, Corporate and Other was down $0.02 per share, driven by lower investment gains and unfavorable net interest expense. This was partially offset by lower income taxes. The lower investment gains are related to a pullback of some of the ChargePoint-related gains we've talked about in prior quarters. Let's have a look at our year-to-date results on slide eight.

Operating earnings through September totaled $3.76 per share, or $1.9 billion, compared to $3.56 per share, or $1.8 billion in 2020. Looking at the drivers by segment, operating earnings for vertically integrated utilities were $1.87 per share, down $0.03 due to higher O&M and depreciation expenses. Other smaller decreases included lower normalized sales and wholesale load, higher other taxes, and a prior-period fuel adjustment. Offsetting these unfavorable variances were rate changes across various operating companies and the impact of weather due to warmer-than-normal temps in the winter of 2020 and the summer of 2021, which created a favorable year-over-year comp for us. Other favorable items in this segment included higher off-system sales, transmission revenue, net interest expense, and income taxes. The transmission and distribution utilities segment earned $0.85 per share, up $0.01 from last year.

Earnings in this segment were up due to higher transmission revenue, rate changes, weather, normalized load, and income taxes. Partially offsetting these favorable items were increased depreciation, O&M, other taxes, and interest expenses. The AEP Transmission Holdco segment contributed $1.02 per share, up $0.27 from last year, related to investment growth and favorable year-over-year true-up. Generation and marketing produced $0.20 per share, down $0.11 from last year due to favorable one-time items in the prior year relating to an Oklaunion ARO adjustment in the sale of Conesville and reduced land sales in 2021. Higher energy margins and lower expenses in the generation business offset the unfavorable ERCOT market prices on the wholesale business during Storm Uri in February. We also saw an unfavorable result in retail due to lower power and gas margins. Income taxes were also unfavorable.

Finally, corporate and other was up $0.06 per share, driven by investment gains and lower taxes, and partially offset by higher O&M. Let me take a quick minute here to talk about the investment gain, which is predominantly a function of our direct and indirect investment in ChargePoint. As you'll see on the waterfall, this produced a $0.06 benefit year-to-date in 2021 as compared to the corresponding 2020 period. You may recall that in the fourth quarter and full year 2020, this investment produced a $0.05 contribution, and we would expect the year-over-year variance to be more pronounced at this point in 2021, as we had no benefit during the same period in 2020. Turning to page nine, I'll update you on our normalized load performance for the quarter.

Before we get into the specifics, let me start by reminding everyone that everything you see on this slide is showing year-over-year growth. That means these numbers can be influenced by what was going on last year or what is happening now in 2021. Given all that occurred in the economy last year, it's obvious that these growth rates are at least partially being influenced by the comparison basis. This leads to the natural follow-up question like, how does today's load compare to pre-pandemic level? I'll get to that question on the next slide. Before I do, let's take a look at what our normalized load growth was for the quarter. Starting in the upper left corner, normalized residential sales were down 1.6% compared to last year, bringing the year-to-date decline down to 0.9%.

You'll notice that last year, residential sales were up 3.8% in the third quarter when the economy was just starting to reopen. One year later, they are down only 1.6%, which suggests there's been a shift up in residential sales as more businesses have embraced a remote workforce for jobs that can be performed at home. The last item to point out on the residential chart is that you'll notice that we added a new bar to the right showing our latest projection for 2021 based on the load forecast update. The original guidance assumed residential sales would decrease by 1.1% in 2021. The latest update shows an improvement as we now expect residential to end the year down 0.9%.

Moving right, weather-normalized commercial sales increased by 5%, bringing the year-to-date growth up to 4.3%. Last year, third quarter commercial sales were down 4.6%. Again, we're seeing a net positive story as the commercial sales class is bouncing back faster than expected. While we're seeing a strong bounce back in the sectors most impacted by the pandemic, such as schools, churches, and hotels, we're actually seeing the strongest growth in commercial sales this year from growth in data centers, especially in Central Ohio. To give you some perspective, last year, this sector was the ninth-largest commercial sector across the AEP system. Today, it's the sixth-largest and will likely move further up in the rankings as more data center loads are expected to come in online over the next several years.

You'll also notice that our latest load forecast update now suggests that commercial sales will end the year up 3.7% as opposed to the 0.5% decline assumed in the original guidance forecast. The economy has recovered much faster than originally assumed, which is one of the reasons why we've updated the forecast and showing you an improvement in that regard. In the lower left corner, you'll see that industrial sales also had a very strong quarter. Industrial sales for the quarter increased by 7%, bringing the year-to-date up to 4.2%. Industrial sales were up at every operating company in nearly every sector.

I'll point out, however, that the 7% growth in the third quarter this year did not quite offset the 7.8% decline experienced last year, which means we still have a little more room to grow before the industrial class fully recovers from the pandemic recession. The good news is we have a lot of momentum to work with. You'll notice that the latest load update now projects industrial sales will end the year up 4.3%, which is 2.4% higher than assumed in the original guidance forecast. Finally, when you put it all together in the lower right corner, you'll see that normalized retail sales increased by 3% for the quarter, and we're up 2.3% for the first nine months.

By all indications, the recovery from the pandemic and recession is happening faster than expected, and our service territory is positioned to benefit from future economic growth. You'll recall that the original guidance forecast assumed normalized load growth of 0.2% in 2021. Based on our latest update, we're now expecting to end the year up 2.2%, which is a supporting factor in narrowing our earnings guidance range and raising the midpoint for 2021. Turning to slide 10, I want to answer the question from earlier that asked how our current load performance compares to pre-pandemic levels. This bar chart is designed to answer that question. The blue bars are the same year-to-date bars that we shared on the prior page.

As a reminder, these represent growth versus 2020, which was influenced by the restrictions implemented to manage the public health crisis. The orange bars here show how the year-to-date sales in 2021 compare to 2019, which was the most recent pre-pandemic year for comparison. These bars tell us how close we are to a full recovery from the pandemic. Starting at the left, you'll notice that our reported residential sales are down 0.9% compared to last year, but they're actually up 1.6% compared to our pre-pandemic levels. This is a gauge for how our customers' behaviors have changed since the pandemic, with more people working from home. The next bar shows that while commercial sales are up 4.3% compared to last year, they are still 0.8% below the pre-pandemic levels.

Given the recent growth we're seeing, especially in the data center loads, we would expect the commercial sales class to fully recover very soon. Moving further right, you'll notice that while the industrial sales are up 4.2% compared to last year, they are still 3% lower than pre-pandemic levels. Given some of the headwinds for manufacturing today with supply chain disruptions, labor shortages, et cetera, it may take a little longer before the industrial class fully recovers from the pandemic recession, but we do expect to eclipse the pre-pandemic levels in 2022. In total, our normalized load is up 2.3% compared to last year and is now within 0.7% of being fully recovered from the pandemic. It's safe to say that we're pleased with the strength and balance of this recovery in the AEP system.

We'll check on the company's capitalization and liquidity on page 11. On a GAAP basis, our debt-to-capital ratio decreased 0.4% from the prior quarter to 62.2%. When adjusted for the Storm Uri event, the ratio is slightly lower than it was at year-end 2020, and now stands at 61.5%. Let's talk about our FFO-to-debt metric. As in the first and second quarter, the effect of Storm Uri continues to have a temporary and noticeable impact on this 2021 metric. Taking a look at the upper right quadrant on this page, you'll see our FFO-to-debt metric based on the traditional Moody's and GAAP-calculated basis, as well as on an adjusted Moody's and GAAP-calculated basis.

On a traditional unadjusted basis, our FFO-to-debt ratio increased by 0.9% during the quarter to 10.2% on a Moody's basis. Just to again reiterate, rating agencies continue to take the anticipated recovery into consideration as it relates to our credit rating. Very important to note that. On an adjusted basis, the Moody's FFO-to-debt metric is 13.6%. This figure removes or adjusts the calculation to eliminate the impact of approximately $1.2 billion of cash outflows associated with covering the unplanned Uri-driven fuel and purchase power in the SPP region, directly impacting PSO and SWEPCO in particular. The metric is also adjusted to remove the effect of the associated debt we used to fund the unplanned payments.

This should give you a sense of where we would be from a business-as-usual perspective with that 13.6%. Importantly, as Nick mentioned, the recovery of the Uri-driven fuel and purchased power expense in the PSO as well as co-jurisdictions is well underway, and we're making progress. As a result, and consistent with what we have previously communicated, we still anticipate our cash flow metrics to return to the low- to mid-teens target range next year. Obviously, we're trying to push toward the mid-teens range, but that will take us a little while longer. We're definitely on our way there. As you know, we'll keep you posted on our progress.

Before we leave the balance sheet topic, I do want to make note of the intended change to our 2022 financing plan in light of our announced sale of Kentucky Power and Kentucky Transco. You may recall that we had planned to issue $1.4 billion of equity in 2022. That's inclusive of our $100 million dividend reinvestment plan to fund our growth CapEx program. While we will provide our typical 3-year forward annual review of our cash flows and financial metrics at the upcoming EEI conference, what you can expect to see is that the 2022 forecast will be adjusted to eliminate the previously planned $1.4 billion of equity financing that I just mentioned, with any residual proceeds being used to reduce a small portion of the 2022 debt financing that we had planned.

These actions will have no impact on our previously stated credit metric targets or messaging in that regard. In the slide deck today, on page 39, you'll see our current cash flow forecast with which you're already familiar. We've included a note on the slide to reflect the fact that the numbers have not been updated for the announced Kentucky transaction, along with the red circle around the 2022 financing, equity financing amount that will be changed and updated when we roll out the new view in a couple of weeks in conjunction with the EEI conference. While we're talking about the Kentucky transaction, I can also share that we expect that the sale will be $0.01-$0.02 accretive in 2022, and we'll reflect this in our 2022 earnings guidance that we provide to you at the EEI conference.

Okay, back to our regularly scheduled earnings call programming and commentary. Let's take a quick moment to visit our liquidity summary on the lower right side of slide 11. Our five-year, $4 billion bank revolver and two-year, $1 billion revolving credit facility, along with proceeds from a quarter-end debt issuance, support our liquidity position, which runs really strong at $5.1 billion. If you look at the lower left side of the page, you'll see that our qualified pension continues to be well-funded at 104%. Additionally, our OPEB is funded at 173.9%. Let's go to slide 12, and I'll do a quick wrap-up, and we can get to your questions.

Our performance through the first three quarters of this year give us confidence to narrow our operating guidance to the upper half of our current range, resulting in a new range of $4.65 per share-$4.75 per share, with a midpoint of $4.70 per share. As we've stated, we are committed to our long-term growth rate target of 5%-7%. Today's 2021 earnings guidance revision is yet another demonstration of our drive to deliver performance in the upper half of our guidance range. From a strategic perspective, we are making significant progress in addressing items that are top of mind for our current and prospective investors. We are now in contract to sell Kentucky Power and Kentucky Transco, which we expect to complete in the second quarter of 2022.

This transaction enables us to avoid the $1.4 billion equity issuance that was part of our original forecast we had shared with you for 2022, and therefore alleviates the overhang, the equity overhang, and also allows us to deliver a transaction that we estimate to be $0.01-$0.02 accretive in 2022. Furthermore, we're able to do this while concurrently preserving our ability to get our FFO-to-debt metrics comfortably into that mid- to low-teens range by 2022, which is commensurate with a Moody's Baa2 stable rating. As you know, we continue to target that. The intention is to then remain in this credit metric range, again, with a preference to try to get closer to that midpoint, as we move along in time.

All of this positions us to continue our generation transformation, which is underpinned by the renewable investment opportunity we've shared with you and complemented by our ongoing energy delivery investment. Here's what you can expect to see from us at the upcoming EEI conference in early November. In addition to the updated three-year forward cash flow and financing plan, we'll be introducing and sharing the details behind our 2022 earnings guidance and our longer-term capital plan. Usually, we typically go out five years. All of which will incorporate the effects of the announced Kentucky sale. With that, sure we do appreciate your time and attention, and I'm going to turn it over to the operator so we can get to your questions.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, press one, then zero on your touch tone phone. You'll hear an indication you've been placed into queue, and you may remove yourself from the queue by repeating the one, then zero command. Also, please pick up your handset before pressing any buttons. We will go first to the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith. Your line is open. Go ahead, please. I'm sorry. I'm having some technical difficulty. One moment while we open your line. Your line is open. Go ahead, please.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Hey, good morning, Akins. Can you hear me now?

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Hey, Julien. How are you?

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Hey, quite well. Thank you. Congratulations on the transaction here. Nicely done.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah. Thanks.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Absolutely. Perhaps just to dive into that one a little bit more, can you talk about what happens with the Mitchell Plant here just as a function of the sale? Will it be transferred to Wheeling? Or how are you thinking about that vis-à-vis Liberty, and any kind of pricing therein in terms of transfer or what have you?

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

That's why the operating agreement is being filed. Wheeling would become the operator, and it does get transferred to Wheeling in 2028. We'll continue with Kentucky being half owner of Mitchell until that period of time. Wheeling will take over the operations of the plant, and the employees will move over to Wheeling as well. We'll continue working with the West Virginia and Kentucky commissions to get resolved the operating agreement-related issues. Of course, at the end, in 2028, it transfers over at a fair market value type of approach. That's the plan.

That'll get filed here in November and December timeframe, and we'll go through that. Actually both commissions have you know the incentive to get this resolved because we do have various views of the ELG piece of it. Regardless of whether we had this transaction or not, we would be needing to file for the operating agreement change out just because of the different directions that the commissions have gone. We'll get that resolved as part and parcel to the overall approvals.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Excellent. Nicely done. Fair market value it is. Just vis-à-vis, you know, ongoing transactions and portfolio evaluation. I mean, clearly alleviating the equity needs here in the very near term. How do you think about just continued evaluation of your portfolio here? I mean, you know, clearly it's not necessarily a near-term dynamic, but I want to give you the opportunity to speak to that a little bit further.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah, sure. I mean, I've said over and over, I guess, for a couple of years now, but even beyond that, we do have to get to portfolio management to enable us to look at the sources and uses of the capital needs that we have and to manage the balance sheet as Julie has mentioned. You know, we target the mid-teens and we wanna get there. Obviously, we're well on our way of getting there. We wanna do that, but at the same time, be able to fund the capital growth. When you think about it, you know, we've sold the unregulated generation, we sold river ops, we sold some hydro-related facilities with...

With Kentucky, you're talking about $6 billion of assets that have been sold, but they fueled substantial growth, I mean, to the tune of $7 billion a year in capital. It's part of the process to determine what the portfolio needs to be in the future, and we'll continue to do that. Certainly we have Chuck and Julie and others will continue to review that portfolio, and we'll manage it in the proper way. I think you know it. I'll say this, Kentucky Power, you think about the threshold, you know, it at one point, we talked about we always invested in coal units no matter what.

Obviously, we've changed that focus to make sure it's more deliberative in terms of the decision points that are made. It's quite a move for AEP to get to a point where we're managing our portfolio in a way that first of all, we became fully regulated, and then we start to look at that portfolio to determine, okay, what's the best approach to fuel $20 billion in potential renewables investment? When you think about that, we have to consider it.

I can tell you, I mean, the last time we sold a regulated utility was, I guess, the Scranton, Pennsylvania system in Pennsylvania, I mean, and the New Jersey system back in, like, the 1940s and 1950s. It's a pretty substantial change. When you think about Kentucky Power itself, it was one of the first acquisitions of American Gas and Electric in 1922. By the time we get through this, it's been 100 years.

When you think about the threshold level of portfolio management that has occurred in this company, it really should shine a lot in terms of our seriousness of making sure that we're managing that portfolio in a proper way. I'd probably a longer answer than what you asked for, but I wanted to at least get all that out there.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Absolutely. Very much appreciated. I'll leave it there.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Speak to you guys soon.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Okay.

Operator

We'll next go to the line of Shahriar Pourreza with Guggenheim Securities. Go ahead, please.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Morning, Shar.

Shahriar Pourreza
Senior Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

Good morning, guys, and congrats on Kentucky.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah.

Shahriar Pourreza
Senior Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

Just to follow up on Julien's question a little bit more. Is as we sort of think about trigger points for another asset sale, what's kind of the catalyst? Because the 10 GW of solar and wind that you're looking to build through 2025, I mean, even if you assume a 50/50 own PPA structure could yield an incremental $3 billion, right, of spending opportunities. You obviously have a slew of IRPs. Do you need to see affirmations with the various filings or actual approvals and GRCs? How should we sort of think about how these could be funded, especially in light of where the stock trades? What's the answer?

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah. When you think about the way we're approaching the renewables piece of it, the process has been that we time the need for equity associated with those particular investments when they actually come online and we get regulated recovery. We get the cash flow to support those investments at the time they come online. That means, you know, obviously our FFO-to-debt doesn't suffer as a result of that. If we continue that approach and keep in mind, too, I've always said that for us to take a look at a regulated entity or other parts of our portfolio doesn't match the future needs in terms of where we are and where we're going as a company.

If we have a chronically underperforming part of the portfolio, then it's important for us to take a look at. Now, that may be temporary, it could be long-term, but certainly we have to make sure that we're evaluating each one of these assets in a way that says, okay, it doesn't matter, you know, where it's located as long as we're getting, certainly, the return expectation and also the forward view of the utility is positive, and that's comparative with others. We have to compare in various parts of our service territories and that's where we make those decisions.

Shahriar Pourreza
Senior Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

Perfect. Just, you know, Nick, I appreciate we're gonna head into EEI, we'll get an update here. Do you see the current renewable additions at least through 2025, the 10 gigawatts, right, between solar and wind swinging materially with some of these counteractive items like federal policy benefits versus the input cost pressures we're seeing in this space impacting some project timings? Do you see any of this swinging at all?

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah. Yeah, I do. You know, when we actually go do the analysis, and we've done analysis for all the jurisdictions, but you know, conditions change, load changes, certainly PTCs, ITCs can change as a result, which change the business cases where some may have been on the margins, particularly in the East, now become benefits to customers. I think those numbers will continue to change. I can tell you from what I've seen so far, those numbers will change. You know, some will go up, some will go down. Overall, nominally it should be on path with what we've talked about. We'll have more to report on that, probably during first quarter 2022.

Because we'll have the integrated resource plans. When those integrated resource plans are filed, that's where I mentioned today is you'll have a more definitive view of what those projects look like because they'll be the results of RFPs, and they'll be the results of actual projects that are put in for regulated approval. More definition, but I would certainly say that nominally it would be in that category we previously discussed.

Julie Sloat
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Shar, what you should anticipate is when we go to EEI, you'll see a refreshed five-year forward CapEx plan, 2022 through 2026. You'll start to begin to see a little bit more of this renewable opportunity dropped in. Stay tuned for that, and we'll be able to talk more granularly with you here in a couple weeks.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah, I would say that when you see that, you know, it certainly will reflect. I don't know if you call it a risk-adjusted approach or whatever, but it's a nominal view for us to make financial plans. Then just like with North Central, we make decisions on whether it goes up or down based upon our ownership.

Shahriar Pourreza
Senior Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

Got it. Terrific, guys. Congrats on the results. See you soon.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Thank you.

Operator

We will next go to the line of Steve Fleishman with Wolfe Research. Go ahead, please.

Steve Fleishman
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Wolfe Research

Yeah. Hey, good morning. Can you hear me, Nick?

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah. Oh yeah, I can hear you. Good morning.

Steve Fleishman
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Wolfe Research

Okay, great. Thanks. Hey, one question that might be a bit premature, but there's obviously a lot going on in D.C. with the reconciliation bill and the like. One of the provisions that's gotten more focus the last few days is the minimum tax-

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah.

Steve Fleishman
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Wolfe Research

provision. I'd just be curious kind of how you're thinking, you know, for larger companies like yourself, how you're thinking if that has any impact for largely regulated utility like you, or does it not really have much of an impact?

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Well, I would say, you know, we've been vocal about this and the industry's been vocal about it. If you put a minimum 15% tax, and a lot of us are, as you know, heavy on capital, and it's growth capital and it's also infrastructure-related capital. You know, an increase with a minimum tax would certainly have a cooling effect on our ability to continue with not only development of infrastructure, and have an effect on that, not to mention customers' bills ultimately because the taxes are a pass-through to our customers.

Also, you know, the administration has a focus on clean energy, and it will have an effect on the renewables transformation that's existing as well. I think it'll put a pall over all the utilities' ability to continue investing capital in the way that we are. If we do that, then obviously there's customer impacts associated with it. Again, it's sort of a hidden tax on our customers. We're not-

Steve Fleishman
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Wolfe Research

Okay.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

We're obviously not for it. We're not for that provision. I think actually we've been very forthright about this and trying to be an honest broker, you know, when we were talking about CEPP and all the other things that it was important for us to be able to make this transformation from a clean energy standpoint. Certainly the PTCs, ITCs with expansion of long-term storage, nuclear and but certainly in terms of wind and solar are very important to continue this process to move to a clean energy economy. We can go a long way there. This industry is very focused on doing that. Any kind of tax headwind that goes the other direction is not helpful.

I think you'll probably hear that across the board.

Steve Fleishman
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Wolfe Research

Okay. More direct AEP things. Just on the approval for the Kentucky sale, could you remind us what the standard for approval is in Kentucky? Is it just in the public interest or net benefits?

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah. It's in the public interest, obviously, because they have to look at the suitor and determine is that the right approach, and is it done in the proper way? Actually, there's been some discussions in Kentucky previously. I think it's probably gone past some of that now that wanna make sure we were operating Kentucky the way we should. We've been operating it the way we always have. We've been investing, we've been doing the things that we need to do, whether we owned it or not. I think certainly the buyer has recognized that.

During the transition, we will continue to support a smooth transition to ensure that the services provided and the things that need to be done to make Kentucky Power successful, we'll be there to do it. Of course, we'll support Liberty Utilities and Algonquin in doing that.

Steve Fleishman
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Wolfe Research

Great. Then one just quick question maybe for Julie. Just the, you know, the proceeds from the Kentucky sale look like they're matching up pretty much one-for-one with reducing the equity need. But obviously, when you sell an asset, you lose some cash flow, albeit Kentucky maybe wasn't having the best cash flow. So just are there, like, offsets in other businesses that are making up for the lost cash flow from the asset sale?

Julie Sloat
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Yeah. Thanks for the question, Steve. You're right. I mean, we do lose the funds from operations as it relates to Kentucky and Kentucky Transco. Although we gotta keep in mind that we also eliminate about $1.3 billion of debt associated with those assets too because that goes away. The other thing that we think through, just to take it a step further, is if we avoid issuing equity, we avoid having to cover off additional dividends that were in our original plan. I'm able to sidestep that as well. That comes with maybe also having some additional dollars to reduce debt at the parent, as I mentioned in my opening comments.

You know, anything above and beyond that $1.4 billion will channel toward debt reduction that was otherwise planned for 2022. Also keep in mind that, you know, Kentucky Power had very strained FFO-to-debt to begin with. To eliminate that piece of, I guess, drag to the overall average FFO-to-debt for the organization is also a net positive for us. We're able to put these numbers together. Quite frankly, from an FFO-to-debt perspective, it is very mildly beneficial. Obviously, a little bit of a cost on the debt-to-cap because we're not issuing additional equity. The numbers all do hang together.

Coincidentally, we're able to take literally that $1.4 billion of planned equity out of the plan. Again, you'll see that at EEI when we refresh the forecast.

Steve Fleishman
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Wolfe Research

Great. Thanks so much.

Julie Sloat
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Thank you.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Thanks, Steve.

Operator

We'll next go to the line of Durgesh Chopra with Evercore ISI. Go ahead, please.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Morning, Durgesh.

Durgesh Chopra
Managing Director, Equity Research, Evercore ISI

Hey, good morning, Nick. Maybe just along the FFO-to-debt lines, my first question is to Julie. Just, you know, in terms of 2024, I'm thinking about your equity needs in my model. Or is the target for FFO-to-debt actually, is it mid-teens or is it low to mid-teens? I'm just 'cause obviously that's gonna dictate, right, how much equity you might need in 2024. Any color you could share there.

Julie Sloat
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Yep, gotcha. You'll see 2024 when we roll out our EEI guidance, so three years forward. As we continue to say, we're talking about mid- to low-teens. The reason I say that is, you know, as I mentioned today, if you look at our FFO-to-debt on an adjusted basis, so backing out the Uri consequence, we're something like 13.6% on a Moody's basis. As you know, our target has been to be around that Baa2 stable rating. That's why we talk about mid- to low-teens or low- to mid-teens. Obviously, our preference and expectation is to start to push more toward what I would characterize as mid. It'd be nice to have at least a 14 handle on that FFO-to-debt. And that is absolutely the plan.

We'll be able to share more with you as we get to EEI and unveil that forecast. I wouldn't change how you're thinking about it. You know, think about mid- to low teens as it relates to Moody's Baa2, with a preference toward, you know, 14-ish +%.

Durgesh Chopra
Managing Director, Equity Research, Evercore ISI

It sounds like mid- to low-teens% through 2024 year. Just a big-picture question, we've talked a ton about natural gas prices. Maybe just talk about your gas generation portfolio, fuel costs, any hedges and impact on customer bills.

Julie Sloat
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Yep. I'll take this from a customer rate perspective if I could, because that's how we think about it, because ultimately this impacts our customers. When we think about, for example, doing some sensitivity analyses around, let's say, a 10% hike in natural gas prices. As we all know, they've gone up substantially. The impact to customer rates varies significantly from one operating company to the next.

Depending on the fuel mix. For example, if I looked at Appalachian Power Company, the average residential impact price in terms of a 10% hike in gas prices would equate to about a 0.9% increase in the customer's rate. Let's compare and contrast that to, say, you know, a PSO or SWEPCO, where there's much more gas concentration. PSO, we'd be talking about 1.6% increase in customer rates, SWEPCO, 1.5%. This is something we are very sensitive to because, as you know, overall, we're extremely sensitive to customer rate increases in the aggregate as we continue to execute on our general CapEx program. I don't know if, Nick, you had any additional-

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah, I'd say certainly your question actually shows the reinforcement of our renewables transformation because it's a perfect hedge to natural gas. If North Central were in place during the time of Storm Uri, it would have saved customers $225 million. When you think about the process we're going through, it's great to have natural gas. It's certainly but at the times, you know, where you can layer in renewables to do that, it turns out to be a significant benefit to consumers. It reinforces that. I think probably this winter will show it.

Durgesh Chopra
Managing Director of Power and Utilities, Evercore ISI

Understood. Thanks, guys. I appreciate the time.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah.

Michael Lapides
VP and Senior Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thank you.

Operator

We'll next go to the line of Andrew Weisel with Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, please. Morning, Andrew.

Andrew Weisel
Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hey, good morning. Thanks for a lot of good updates here. One remaining question I had was, after a few rate case settlements and expectations for several other outstanding cases to be resolved in the coming months, can you share your expectations around which subs might file new rate cases over the next 12 months or so?

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah, I'm trying to think of what else we would be filing because just in every jurisdiction, we have a case that we expect approval of. Certainly, a lot of cases are still ongoing in just about all the jurisdictions. I'd say we're always reviewing that on a regular basis at this point. You know, we have plenty of active cases that we've got to get across the finish line and then determine where we're at. The other part, too, is okay, what happens with denominator? You know, 'cause, you know, as Julie mentioned, load is changing significantly. It continues to do that as we emerge from hopefully a post-COVID world.

If that's the case, then that will be a determinant in terms of when we would file for any case. I think of course, if we do have tax changes that occur, then that'll force a whole new view going forward to many of these cases, just like it did when we got tax reform last time around. Except this one may be on the upside.

Andrew Weisel
Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, great. Would it be fair to say that 2022, at least, you know, the second half of 2022 might be a quieter year as far as the regulatory calendar? There won't be too much.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah, probably quiet in terms of filings, but probably noisy in terms of results.

Andrew Weisel
Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

All right. Thank you very much.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah.

Operator

As a reminder, if you do have questions, press 1 then 0 on your touch tone phone at this time. We will go next. One moment please. We'll go next to the line of Michael Lapides with Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, please.

Michael Lapides
VP and Senior Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, guys. Thank you for

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Hey, Mike.

Hey, Nick.

How are you doing?

Michael Lapides
VP and Senior Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

I'm fine. Rough year for your Bayou Bengals this year. A lot of change. Hey, got a couple of questions for you. With the Kentucky sale, you guys have your slide number five, I think it is, has over the years done a good job of detailing how hard it's been to operate in Kentucky.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yep.

Michael Lapides
VP and Senior Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Now that Kentucky will be kind of off your plate, when you look at the other jurisdictions, what are the ones where you say, "Hey, we still struggle to earn authorized here"? What are the structural changes, whether it's legislation, and we've seen lots of utilities in places like North Carolina, Kansas, Missouri go in and make structural changes via legislation. What are the structural changes you're going to seek outside of just normal rate case filings that could help improve authorized versus earned returns in those jurisdictions?

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah, you know, you're seeing a pretty fundamental shift in all the remaining operating companies. You know, we've made a lot of progress on riders. You know, we have a lot of focus on getting concurrent recovery and cash in the door. What you're seeing really in terms of a lot of these lags is the amount of investment that we're placing in these companies. As well, you know, as you make the transition from certainly from wires-related activities with riders and then the renewables conversion that occurs, the way we're doing the renewables is commensurate with the recovery. We should see the authorized our returns be closer to the authorized as time goes forward.

We don't see any fundamental issues in any of the jurisdictions that are left that says that we have you know significant headwinds. I mean, the only thing you could probably point to is the Turk issue at SWEPCO. Other than that, and actually, when you think about Arkansas, and you know, we keep saying we're not recovering the Arkansas portion of Turk. That's not because of the commission, that was because of the Supreme Court of Arkansas. We've got very good relations with the commissions and all the jurisdictions, and we feel like the fundamentals are there for continued improvement relative to that regulatory lag that exists.

Because we're spending on more areas and our generation is really renewables, and that's helping out every time we put an investment in. The timing of the investment improves FFO-to-debt, improves the returns of the individual companies. I think we'll continue to make progress in that regard. I would be, you know, I'm pretty optimistic that we'll continue to make progress in all of these jurisdictions.

Michael Lapides
VP and Senior Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Just a quick follow-up, and this may be a Julie one. Just curious, when we think about your multi-year kind of your guidance growth rate and kind of the language around wanting to be at the high end. Outside of the transmission segment, the standalone segment, what does that embed as a earned ROE at the rest of it, kind of regulated businesses?

Julie Sloat
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Yeah. Michael, you know, we always, as Nick mentioned, we strive to be in the upper half of the guidance range, not necessarily the upper end, although that'd be very nice. Just a point of clarification there. As it relates to returns, as you can see, we've kind of been hovering around the 9% ROE return level. I think that's a safe place for you to assume that we'll kinda hang out there for a while until we get a little more traction. You know, another thing if I could, circling back to your original question. You know, when we look at the equalizer chart, oftentimes we get questions around AEP Texas and why the lower ROE relative to authorized there.

You know, back to your question around, you know, growth and how do you manage the business. AEP Texas, we continue to invest a significant amount of capital on an annualized basis there. While we have very progressive rate recovery mechanisms in place that we really enjoy, I can tell you this. While the ROE may look a touch depressed relative to authorized, that company continues to produce earnings growth in, to say, the 8%-10% range. That solidifies our ability to, back to your original point, get in that upper half of the range. You know, again, ROE our system-wide average, assume roughly around 9% ish and trending upward over time.

Around AEP Texas, you know, keep in mind the capital is intentional there as we continue to try to take care of the customer and grow that business. It's paying dividends in the sense that, you know, we're getting 8%-10% EPS growth out of it.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yeah. The other thing you have to look at too is, and we have it on that page, is actually the increase in equity layers as well. You see improvement in the equity layers, and then we're still investing and still meeting the 5%-7% and being in the upper half and that kind of thing. Of course, we continue to manage the FFO-to-debt towards the mid-teens. All the pieces are starting to fit together, and there's a lot of optimization that will occur for us to execute on to ensure that we're continuing to meet the earnings objectives.

Investing in the right things that enable us to bridge that gap on the regulatory lag.

Michael Lapides
VP and Senior Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Thank you, guys. Much appreciated. Congrats with Kentucky.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Yep, sure thing.

Julie Sloat
EVP and CFO, American Electric Power

Thanks.

Nick Akins
Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power

Bye.

Operator

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Darcy Reese
VP of Investor Relations, American Electric Power

Thank you for joining us on today's call. As always, the IR team will be available to answer any additional questions you may have. Alan, would you please give the replay information?

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