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Earnings Call: Q1 2015

Aug 27, 2014

Operator

Good morning. My name is Jody, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Brown-Forman first quarter fiscal 2015 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press the pound key. Thank you. I would now like to turn today's conference over to Mr. Jay Koval, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Jay Koval
Director of Investor Relations, Brown-Forman

Thanks, Jody, and good morning, everyone. I want to thank you for joining us today for Brown-Forman's first quarter 2015 earnings call. Joining me today are Paul Varga, our President and Chief Executive Officer, Jane Morreau, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Brian Fitzgerald, Chief Accounting Officer. This morning's conference call contains forward-looking statements based on our current expectations. Numerous risks and uncertainties may cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated or projected in these statements. Many of the factors that will determine future results are beyond the company's ability to control or predict. You should not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements, and the company undertakes no obligation to update any of these statements, whether due to new information, future events, or otherwise. This morning, we issued a press release containing our results for the first quarter of fiscal 2015.

The release can be found on our website under the section titled Investor Relations. In the press release, we have listed a number of the risk factors that you should consider in conjunction with our forward-looking statements. Other significant risk factors are described in our Form 10-K, Form 8-K, and Form 10-Q reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. During this call, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. These measures and the reasons management believes they provide useful information to investors regarding the company's financial conditions and results of operations are contained in the press release. With that, I will turn the call over to Jane for her prepared remarks.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

Thank you, Jay, and thanks, everyone, for joining us for our first quarter earnings call. I have three topics I plan on covering today, and that'll leave us plenty of time to address Q&A after Paul's brief comments. First, I'm going to review the first quarter results, then I'm going to share some thoughts on flavor innovation on American whiskeys, and provide an update on our Jack Daniel's Tennessee Fire test. Then third, I'll discuss our full-year outlook. Let me first start with reviewing our first three months of the fiscal year. As we discussed in June, and as expected, we had a very challenging quarter in terms of comparisons versus last year. This was largely as a result of trade disruptions from recent pricing decisions. We anticipated these actions would result in significant reductions in both retail and trade at distributor inventory levels.

It caused some variability also in some of our buying patterns when we compare our results versus a year ago. What I thought I would do here is share with you some more specifics as it relates to the markets that were most affected by these inventory shifts that distort both our underlying and reported trends to provide some context when you look at our underlying trends, which are depletion-based, and compare them to our consumer takeaway trends based upon syndicated data, whether it's Nielsen or NABCA. The common theme, though, that you're going to hear as I talk is in each of these markets, the consumer takeaway trends are much stronger than our depletion trends, again, illustrating the retail trade inventory reductions that happened in the quarter. Let's just first start with the U.S.

We discussed this with you in June, that we had significant price increases over the last two years, as you know. Particularly on Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey, where we averaged somewhere in the 3%-4% range of pricing per year. That drove large buy-ins at our distributor level and our retail level in the past two fiscal years in the first quarter. This year, as we also discussed in June, we reduced the rate of our price increases to the 1%-2% range. What that resulted in is we saw very little buy-in activity in the first quarter, but a subsequent reduction in the inventory levels at both the distributor and the retail.

We estimate when we look at the inventory levels at the retail and the distributor levels of the U.S., they really have dropped significantly in the first quarter of this fiscal year compared to the last two fiscal years, and in fact, below the pre-price increases in 2012. Just to further illustrate, I'm going to give you a couple of numbers here. I'm going to use Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey because, of course, it's our most important brand in the U.S., as well as around the world. In our underlying trend, our depletion results for Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey declined 4.5% in the first quarter in the U.S. When we compare that to our adjusted blended takeaway trends are up 2.5%.

You can see the significant difference between the depletion trends as well as the takeaway trends, indicating a retail reduction in inventory levels, which is not in our numbers that we report on an underlying basis. Importantly, also, is that we've seen the Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey's volume takeaway trends have been accelerating by about two points in the most recent three months compared to the trailing 12 months, which we believe bodes well for the U.S. business over the balance of the year when we look at our price and volume balancing that we're doing this year. Set aside the U.S., and let's go to the developed international markets. We saw a deceleration in results in the quarter. Net sales were actually down 1%. Some of that was due to lapping of comparisons to a year ago.

Last year's first quarter was very strong in some of our key markets, developed international markets. A lot of it was driven by some strategic decisions we made to reduce our promotional activity. For instance, in the U.K., we moved from a high-low pricing strategy there to an everyday low price in one of our channels. What that resulted in is a short-term hit to our numbers as retailers reduced their inventories in that market. We do believe that's the right action in the long term, and we'll realize higher pricing as a result. A similar type 2 situation happened in Germany. Different reasons, but also to do with pricing. It caused some, what we call variability in the customer buying patterns. Similar to what I just did in the U.S., I'm going to give you a couple examples of what happened in these two markets.

Again, using Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey. If we look at the U.K., the U.K. depletion trends, again, in our underlying sales for the quarter were down 16%, where the takeaway trends are up much, much stronger and actually are growing. They were up 5%. In Germany, the depletion trends were down 23%, whereas the takeaway trends, again, were growing up 4%. When you look at these two markets, there's roughly a 20-point spread between the depletion and takeaway trends in these two important markets for us. Moving on to Poland, it had another very challenging quarter, very weak economy there, and continued give back from the January 1 excess tax increase from a year ago, or from last fiscal year, where we had buy-ins. What we've done, because of all the noise in the numbers, is we've made some adjustment.

We estimate that adjusting for the reductions in the retail trade inventory levels that distorted our numbers significantly in the quarter. The ones I just described for the U.S., U.K., Germany, Poland, actually resulted in our overall global net underlying sales for the quarter to be about 6%, which is right at the low end of our underlying sales growth for the fiscal year outlook. Just to mention a few other markets in Europe that are really doing very nicely, both under underlying net sales basis as well as the supported takeaway trends such as France, Belgium, and Netherlands. We still are seeing some pressure, economic pressures, if you will, in Italy and Spain. If you flip over to our emerging markets, they had a very nice quarter. Grew quickly. In fact, they accelerated from last fiscal year. They were up 15% in the quarter.

We knew, and we had described some of this to you previously, that Mexico's growth was going to be up because of some favorable comparison against weak periods last year, where there were large give backs. Beyond that, the majority of our other countries in the emerging markets really enjoyed strong growth. I could name a lot of them, but I'm just going to name a few of them. Brazil had very nice growth. Russia, Turkey, Indonesia, just to name a few. In summary, while I said our underlying trends were up 3% net sales for the quarter, so are reported, we really believe that the underlying trends themselves, when adjusting for these retail inventory adjustments, were closer to 6%.

When I look, though, however, at the 3% growth that we had in top line for the quarter, about two points of that improvement was driven by price mix. That, combined with a reduction in our cost, actually helped drive the 50 basis point improvement you see in our gross margins, as well as our 5% profit growth that you saw in the quarter. Moving on to A&P. You saw a reduction in A&P spend. That's really timing related only, where you saw an 8% increase in SG&A as we continue to invest behind our people to drive our business, including the route to consumer change we made in France last fiscal year. We discussed this at the end of last quarter call, too. We actually expected our first half of the year SG&A to be higher.

As the year goes on and we start cycling against these investments, such as the step-up investment we made in France, in the second half of the year, we expect SG&A rate of growth to go down. Pulling this all together, our underlying growth in operating income was up 7% for the quarter, 1% on a reported basis. Our EPS grew 5% to $0.70 per share. Let me now move on to my second topic, I want to discuss flavored whiskey and its impact on American whiskey renaissance. I'll update you on the Jack Daniel's Tennessee Fire test. I thought it would help to frame the American whiskey opportunity that we see by going back in time. Let's go back to the 1970s and look at how many cases of American whiskey were sold at the time. It's about 100 million cases.

That's when the consumption of American whiskey actually peaked. We'll fast-forward it to today, where there's a 40-year secular decline in the category. It was roughly cut in half, so it's around 50 million cases. If you look at the U.S. population of legal drinking age at the time, it's grown about 50%, meaning the per capita consumption of American whiskey has fallen by almost 70% over that period. We were witnessing an inflection point in the U.S. American whiskey around 2010, where we really saw consumer interest in the category reignited. When we look at the work we've been doing over the last four years, and the growth that has resulted, we think this is the first of many, many years to come of recapturing the lost market share that I just described to you.

When we look at what we think is the cause of this renewed demand, of course, there's multiple factors, but I'm just going to mention a few. One is the rise of craft distilling, which is led by our own Woodford Reserve, the consumer interest in heritage and authenticity, and what appears to be vodka fatigue. I'm going to focus on another factor, I'm calling a fourth factor today, which is the importance of the flavored whiskeys. In 2013, in the U.S., flavored whiskeys accounted for about 45% of the American whiskey volume growth. Now, looking at what drove that, definitely demographics played a major role in that. It was increased interest from women and minorities based on their changing taste profiles and preferences, as well as convenience.

I can speak to this, because I have a couple millennial kids myself, I know I've probably taught them to like things that tasted differently. Millennials definitely have grown up with many different flavor offerings, whether it's cereals or soda or water or juices. They now expect to have all kinds of choices in taste, and they want great tasting things. Of course, mixability and drinkability have played an important part too, in the bourbon renaissance. Of course, it's natural for Brown-Forman, our company, to take these and leverage these sought-after characteristics through our disciplined approach that we have toward innovation, combined with our great American whiskey brands, and innovate. That leads me to how we've been innovating and approaching flavored innovation. We've been doing it in two main ways right now.

First is we've been focusing on different taste profiles and expression of existing brands. Some examples would be Woodford Reserve Double Oaked, or Old Forester, Single Barrel, or Jack Daniel's Sinatra. What these products had were different tastes built off of grain recipes or barreling technology or aging requirements. They serve to be what we believe are great extensions of our core brand offerings. They also tended to be in the super premium price point. They definitely have generated positive publicity and also satisfying what is new in this era of consumers' desire for discovery. You can expect that we'll continue to selectively release these innovative offerings into the future. The second way that we've been introducing flavor into our portfolio of brands is through flavored liqueurs into our whiskeys. Of course, we did that with Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey.

That's selling over 1 million cases, just after its third full year into the marketplace, we reached that this past January, we think that speaks volumes to the global interest in the brand and really the success of our innovation strategy. It's allowed us to introduce new consumers to the brand and, as well as to offer new drinking occasions. While we've seen some recent bit of slowdown of growth rates of the brand in the U.S. as it begins its fourth year in the category and the law of large numbers take over, we really do believe there remain untapped opportunities for the brand in this important market in the U.S., as well as we can continue to expand it outside the U.S. as we continue to do this year, where the brand grew underlying sales well over 50%.

You can expect that we'll continue to drive the Tennessee Honey's growth around the world. We've been testing, as we've discussed with you previously, our second full-strength flavored expression, which is Jack Daniel's Tennessee Fire. The test results, from these 3 markets where we started the test, have been really encouraging, both from a trade perspective as well as a consumer perspective. We've also seen nice halo in these 3 markets on the Jack Daniel's trademark itself, where it's gained shares with minimal cannibalization to both whiskey, Tennessee Whiskey, as well as Tennessee Honey. Now with that, our plan is on rolling out Tennessee Fire to 5 additional states during the fall, we're readying our plans for further geographic expansion.

Our goal with Jack Daniel's Tennessee Fire is really in line with what we've been able to do with Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey, and it's to create a brand extension of Jack Daniel's versus the flavor of a weak approach. We'll, of course, update you on our plans in future calls as we go through this process. That leads me to my third and final topic, I want to update you on our growth outlook for fiscal 2015, which we reaffirmed this morning. I know you can tell from my earlier discussion about the first quarter, there's a lot of noise in it.

We do not believe the first quarter results provide a good read for our full year, and that's why we provided the adjustment for you to give you an idea that we believe that the underlying trends are there to keep us on track to deliver the 6%-8% net sales growth that we shared with you on our last call. This does assume that there's no further deterioration in what we call the very fragile geopolitical environment in Russia, where there's uncertainty around the government policies, how local laws may have been interpreted and enforced. Just to put in context, Russia is an important market for us, but in fiscal 2014, it represented a 2% of Brown-Forman's total net sales.

We have, and we continue to expect to take price increases this year, which we believe will drive modest gross margin expansion that we also described to you in June. This, coupled with the gross profit growth, continued leverage in A&P and SG&A, though we'll continue to invest in both of these categories. We believe we're on track to deliver the 9%-11% operating income growth that we discussed in our last call. While our outlook for earnings per share remains unchanged, it's still $3.25-$3.45, we do see a drag as a result of foreign exchange, about $0.06. We also are forecasting a slightly lower effective tax rate, somewhere around 29.5%. We expect that to offset much of the drag from the negative impact of foreign exchange.

In summary, I know there's a lot of noise in the quarter, I think you're going to have quarterly noise, that's why we like to step back and pull ourselves back and look over long periods of time and really to look at the future. When we look at the global demand for American whiskey, it remains solid. We talked about innovation, both with Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey and what we're doing with Jack Daniel's Tennessee Fire, that definitely has helped power our results over the last few years. The premiumization trends continue, what we think all that combines together is it positions Brown-Forman for what it will be another record year, what we believe will be another record year of both top and bottom-line performance. We look to the future.

We know that we've got a strong balance sheet, growing cash flow, and that'll allow us to invest in the future growth while returning cash to our shareholders through dividends and share buybacks as you saw in the quarter. With that, I'm going to turn the call over to Paul for some quick comments.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Thanks, Jane. Good morning to everyone. I'm just going to add a couple of supplementary comments to Jane's. I'll be rather brief given that we're only 90 days into the fiscal year, we actually did a pretty thorough presentation on the company here a few weeks back at our recent shareholders meeting. All in all, the quarter was pretty much in line with what we had anticipated, and in many ways, it was similar, in my view, to what I recall from the first quarter last year when inventory changes and buying patterns distorted the short-term results somewhat. Of course, the changes that Jane emphasized in her part are, of course, accentuated by the reality that, of course, we're just talking about a very short period of time here in three months.

I thought most important were Jane's examples comparing the recent growth rates in consumer takeaway versus depletions for Jack Daniel's in three of our key countries, the U.S., U.K., and Germany particularly. I thought they were really illustrative of this inventory point that she was making. It also, not only is it important for understanding the results, but it's a source of reassurance to me that results should improve over the balance of the year as inventories come back into line, and takeaway actually drives the business versus the inventory shift.

All in all, the expectation of improving underlying growth rates in both sales and gross profit, coupled with the continuing expectations as we had at the beginning of the year and had last year of decent spending leverage gives us the comfort to reaffirm at this stage the full-year earnings forecast that we provided just 12 weeks or so ago. That sort of is a nice summary that I feel of what the quarter said to me. A couple of other things. Looking ahead, Jane touched on Russia. It is a bit more of a risk today for us than it was when we did our full-year plans. While no doubt an important market, particularly to the very long term for Brown-Forman, we do take some comfort from the fact that our emerging market business today is quite well diversified.

As we reported this morning, those markets collectively continue to perform very well with underlying sales in the quarter up 15%. Finally, I just want to add a point or two here on Jane's comments about the flavored whiskey opportunity. As she said, Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey is off to another great start globally, and we continue to have high hopes for it. Less visible to everyone has been the fact that alongside it, we've been assessing the potential for this possible entrant in the marketplace, which is Jack Daniel's Tennessee Fire. So far, I'm very encouraged by what I've seen in the three-state U.S. test. As expected, this happens with almost any Jack Daniel's product that gets tested and introduced. There has been high trade and consumer curiosity, and therefore, early demand for the product correlates well with that. It is quite high.

As I said, we get this almost with anything we take out into the marketplace with Jack Daniel's. Beyond this, we try to read the test results, and what we're seeing is that they're indicating a very strong acceptance of the product itself, which is always really important when we go out and introduce a product, either on a large scale or into tests, or even if it's in simulated tests before an entry. The product performance in the marketplace itself, we consider very important, and that seems to be very well accepted in these test markets. As well, an appreciation by many for Jack Daniel's Tennessee Fire being a more premium, authentic, and masculine alternative in this space. Not surprisingly that Jack Daniel's would bring that kind of relevant imagery to the category.

We will be expanding to a few more states here in October, and in the meantime, we will read the original three states for a couple of months more while we assess the timing and manner in which we will more substantively expand it geographically. It's just an exciting opportunity for our U.S. business, and we know there will be interest beyond the U.S. as well, which, of course, we'll also be evaluating. We'll keep you apprised in the weeks and months to come on our plans, more specifically for Jack Daniel's Tennessee Fire. That's all for our prepared remarks, and we're now happy to take any of your questions.

Operator

At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, please press star, then number 1 on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Bill Schmitz from Deutsche Bank.

Bill Schmitz
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hi, good morning.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Good morning.

Bill Schmitz
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hey, can you just talk about how much of the emerging market growth, excluding Mexico, in your mind, do you think is distribution gains versus same store sales? Is there a way to quantify that?

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

We have fewer syndicated resources that cover the broad distribution, particularly of Jack Daniel's in those markets. You're always building a little bit of inventory because we're still at early stages of development there. I think we've been in many of those markets now long enough that these double-digit growth rates we're seeing, I feel are reflective of consumer takeaway versus inventory build. All these markets will be very different market by market. You tend not to see some of the buying patterns that you will see with these major customers that you have in the developed markets, that have the ability to inventory and build four to six to eight months' worth of inventory.

My feel is, just because of the consistency with which the results have been coming forward over the last many years, that it's indicative of consumer takeaway in those markets, more so than any kind of inventory build.

Bill Schmitz
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Great, thanks. Then just a quick follow-up. Did you set a revised time for the broader rollout of Tennessee Fire? Did I miss that in the prepared comments? Is there a timeline when you think you'll have national distribution?

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

The only thing we just said was, if you missed it, was that we're going to go in October to five more states in the United States, between now and then, we'll be assessing the plans for doing something more substantively in terms of a broader geographic expansion. We'll keep you posted on it. We've got some work still to do in observing a little bit of the performance in those original three states, and we want to keep looking at how best to sell and market the brand when we go to a broader geographic platform. All the signs are really encouraging that we're going to be well accepted with it. It's just getting our ducks in a row.

Bill Schmitz
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Great. Thank you very much.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

You're welcome.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Phil Chappell from SunTrust.

Phil Chappell
Analyst, SunTrust

Good morning.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Good morning.

Phil Chappell
Analyst, SunTrust

Paul, Jane, can you maybe just help us understand what was different from your internal expectations in the quarter? It sounds like a lot of the pricing and the timing of shipments was pretty much what you expected 12 weeks ago. I'm just trying to understand, if we look at like maybe Finlandia, or if we look at the growth in the tequila market, what was different from what you were expecting internally?

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

I think the only difference from my perspective was, not understanding the impact of some of the pricing decisions that we were making in the developed international markets. Now we understand them. I think that was the main one. We were still somewhat uncertain as it related to a brand, Finlandia, and what that was going to be, what the price increases, two price increases last fiscal year was going to have on the brand itself in Poland, and still are evaluating that. I think those were the main two things. By far, the largest thing that happened was, it affected our quarter was the U.S., and we anticipated.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Yeah, I thought Jane's examples on particularly the Europe, I don't think any of us would have anticipated that you cited a 20-point difference between the depletion trends and the consumer takeaway trends in Germany and the U.K. We would've anticipated some of that, not to that size. You hope that'll correct here in the ensuing months as you start to have trading patterns that match the consumer takeaway. That would've been a bit bigger than we would've thought. I think the U.S., when we largely were in line with.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

On the family.

Phil Chappell
Analyst, SunTrust

Does that change kind of your longer-term outlook on pricing and/or how you would pass through pricing?

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Not at all.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

Nope.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Not at all. I think some of it is we got more aggressive for two fiscal years. We had some of the same thing with the building of inventories in the first quarter back when we did it. Now you're coming back off of it a little bit in terms of the size of it, so it's accordingly appropriate adjustments, and it hits the quarter.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

It does work itself out throughout the year, though.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

It does. The one thing you are always monitoring, and it's the reason we're doing a little less pricing this year, than we did in the prior two fiscal years, is you just want to make sure the cumulative impact of the pricing isn't too much, particularly on a franchise like Jack Daniel's, where you have both ultra premium or super premium pricing paired with very large volumes. That balancing act we're always doing. I think that's the more important thing than we always try to give you transparency to what's happening as it relates to these shifts in the inventories. In any event, I think the more important thing is how the consumer, and in some parts of the trade too, are reacting to your pricing plans.

Phil Chappell
Analyst, SunTrust

Last one for me. Just on further color on Jack Daniel's Tennessee Fire, as you said, Paul, you expect to pin up demand and have a good initial response. Is there any more kind of color in terms of, is it cannibalization versus Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey, or is it incremental or anything else you can give us? I know it's still very short.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

We would anticipate The early reads, like as I said, were so encouraging because it is very limited in terms of what we're seeing in terms of cannibalization so far, relative to both Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey Black Label and to Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey. If anything, it's providing nice halo. Some of it would be expected. The flavor profile that we're testing of this Jack Daniel's Tennessee Fire is a really different taste than either Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey or Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey Black Label. Some of it, by design, I think, you would expect to be for different occasions or for different consumer palates. That, in fact, is playing out, in this test. That's encouraging.

We're also very much trying to do a lot of things at Brown-Forman, but also within the Jack Daniel's trademark, making sure that in the U.S. market and other markets, that we're appropriately focused on building Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey and Black Label. We continue to be really enthused about the potential for Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey. Part of it is to make sure that we don't get distracted by the enthusiasm that's out there, and we manage it well, and we can portfolio sell well, and that we're in tune to any potentials that might exist for any cannibalization, even though it's been minimalized so far. The other thing is just making sure we know how to market and sell and message these products to ensure the best collective success for the company and the trademark.

That is always a trial-and-error process, making sure you get that messaging right, the weights of spending and investment between channels. Part of it is I think the necessary exercise of using the test, in fact, as a test ground to see what might bring the best results for us.

Phil Chappell
Analyst, SunTrust

Got it. Thanks, Nicola.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

You're welcome.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ian Shackleton from Nomura.

Ian Shackleton
Analyst, Nomura

Good morning, Paul and Jane. Question around tax. You got into a low rate this year. I wonder if that is reflecting a more sustainable lower base. I am aware, I think some of the moves you've made in Europe may be helping the tax situation. Just interested to know how we should think about that going forward.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

Yes. Tax is, as you know, for us, I think we have the highest tax rate of all of our competitors. It's been something that we've been very focused on and looking for smart ways to reduce our tax rate. Of course, one of the biggest ways is to continue to grow your business outside the U.S. like we have been. We've been growing at a fast clip outside the U.S. That definitely has provided a reduction in our tax rate and has continued to do so. If you look over the, I guess, the next several years and period of time, I think that you could expect our tax rate to be somewhere around in the 30% range.

Ian Shackleton
Analyst, Nomura

Great. Thank you. Just to follow up, Australia is a market you were quite cautious about last year. It sounds like that's doing quite a bit better with the growth now. Has that changed for the better?

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

I think a little combination of both. I think that within the quarter, there's maybe easier comps down there versus what we had a year ago. I know that the team there is a little more, it's a very competitive market, I'll say that, as it relates to what's happening at the trade level. Of course, innovation remains really important down there, particularly as it relates to the RTD business. That team is, I think, in a better position today as they think about the marketplace. I will say the one thing about that marketplace, mid to long term is the pressure from those excise taxes that have hit all distilled spirits, in my view, have been significant and disproportionate to spirits, and have been one of the influencing conditions to slow to lackluster growth in the marketplace.

I actually think getting some relief on that, through government lobbying, et cetera, is a really important thing for the industry if it intends to have any kind of consumption growth down that market.

Ian Shackleton
Analyst, Nomura

Is there any sign of success there? Because I know it's an issue you've been campaigning on for a while there, Paul.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Yeah, it's a long slog. As you know. You would've heard it for a number of the competitive companies in this industry, and Poland, Jane highlighted here. We look around, you think about the topical issues, you don't want these excise taxes to become so rhythmic in the way that they have, from year to year, particularly within countries. You occasionally have things like, a U.S. consideration of the legalization of marijuana becomes a big threat you try to assess and look at and think about long term. These excise taxes, though, particularly with governmental departments needing revenue and us perceived as an easy target, as regressive as sometimes these taxes are, have really, I think, been more present in our business over the last five years than any of us would've anticipated.

You just look to Poland right now, they do have an impact on the affordability. It requires both lobbying and it requires innovation for the suppliers and owners to go and innovate around it so that they can bring products to the market that may not be as high proof, is the other way to do it, because a lot of this is based on proof.

Ian Shackleton
Analyst, Nomura

Understood. Thanks very much, Paul.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

You're welcome.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mark Swartzberg from Stifel Nicolaus.

Mark Swartzberg
Analyst, Stifel Nicolaus

Good morning, Paul. Hey, Jane. I guess a few questions. Firstly, as we think about your outlook for the year, your +3 start and your adjustments to +6, given the takeaway dynamics being better than the shipping dynamics still implies you're looking for an acceleration over the balance of the year, given your 6%-8% view. I know this is a mechanical question, but when you think about what's going to drive the acceleration, is it Jack Daniel's Tennessee Fire? Is it a particular country? I'm just trying to square that circle.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

I think that's a great question and something that we've been studying, as you can imagine. As we look at it, I think the main driver of it will be the United States, is where we're looking for the growth to come from. It's not Tennessee Fire. Tennessee Fire is all we have in the numbers. We do not have a national rollout in the numbers. It is the U.S., and as you recall, the discussion that we had in June, in terms of our rebalancing of price and volume, if you will, this acceleration after the first quarter. Even though I've made this adjustment, we're still expecting improving trends, which we have seen, and I alluded to that too in my comments in terms of the takeaway trends for the Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey brand itself. It's the U.S., largely, is one of them.

We've got to see some continued improvement, though, in the Western Europe markets that I discussed. We have reason to believe that that will happen based upon some of the plans they have in place.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

I think the other thing I'd add that just helps, particularly when you're discussing it during Q1, is that as tough as our expected comps within the fiscal year were going to be for us in Q1, we would anticipate, at least based on history and borrowing any new news, that our Q4 comps would have been on the easier side relative to what we had facing us in Q1. There is a counterbalancing thing, but nonetheless, as we go along, in order to accomplish the force-outs, as you indicate, things do have to accelerate. We expect some of it to come back through inventory, of course, but we also feel like you do need an acceleration as you go through the year. Remember, some of these buy-ins, there'll be particular periods in particular countries where we'll be up against other buy-ins.

A Polish tax increase is one such example later in the year. We'll try to keep you all current on where those inventory shifts are occurring and when they're not, and how Brown-Forman is either benefiting or being hurt by them. Nonetheless, part of it is we really only do have 90 days. We think we have a decent feel for the inventory impact on us. We feel comfortable affirming the guidance today based on what we know.

Mark Swartzberg
Analyst, Stifel Nicolaus

Fair enough. If I could follow, purely on the U.S. for a moment, if you will, ignoring the inventory dynamic. When you look at the takeaway you're actually seeing and look at it on a total North American whiskey basis, how would you characterize those rates of growth versus, say, earlier this year or year-ago levels? Are they in fact accelerating? I heard your prepared remarks. I wasn't quite clear if indeed takeaway for your Brown products, if you will, is in fact accelerating. Then relating to that, vodka fatigue in some ways is a good thing for you guys, but we're seeing promotional activity there pick up. Could you just speak about how that's affecting, again, the Brown component of your portfolio from a takeaway perspective here in the U.S.?

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

I don't know if you get Nielsen data. I can read you some numbers just to give you a feel for North American whiskey and their trends, both on a three-month basis as well as a 12-month basis. The trends have accelerated. They are improving, on a volume basis or a value basis. Let's look at volume basis. It's up nearly 8% on a three-month basis, and it's about the same as it was a year-ago, I guess. It's still much stronger than the TDS category, which has, I guess, slowed slightly in the three-month period. I think some of that is due to the vodka category, if I look at the vodka trends, which continue to slow down.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

For us, within it, I think I'll highlight one little difference that we might have observed, and Jane touched on it within the quarter. Now you're focused here only on the United States, this is a continuation of last year's results, where Woodford Reserve within our portfolio continues to really do well and performing very much above the performance of North American whiskey generally. One of the brands, one of our oldest brands, our oldest brand, Old Forester, has been accelerating in its performance over the last 18 months to two years. Those are the real highlights. Of course, Tennessee Honey, as a flavored expression, has done very well. Those rates, as Jane mentioned, have been coming down some off the higher bases.

The Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey volume metrics are going up, associated with it, just because we've been taking less price, you'll see less price. The price mix will come down subtly on that. Then brands that have been performing below North American whiskey, and it depends on how broadly you define it within our category in the United States, would be our Canadian Mist, Early Times, and even if you went so far as to include a brand that straddles it, which would be Southern Comfort, has been a brand that we from time to time refer to, even though it's a liqueur, as a flavored whiskey. It would be performing below. That's consistent with some prior-year reports as well.

I think the big changes that people might note in the first quarter are slightly different delivery of the sales dollar growth on Jack Daniel's, with volumes accelerating here more recently, and Tennessee Honey coming down off some of those higher growth rates to more moderated levels of growth. Remember, that's reporting only retail business primarily. The one encouraging thing about the U.S. market that we're starting to hear and see some data for is improvements in the on-premise trends, and we certainly can note that for our Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey brand versus its first couple of years, it has really picked up its momentum in the on-premise relative to the off-premise.

Mark Swartzberg
Analyst, Stifel Nicolaus

That's great. The on is okay, we've heard the same. You are seeing the on. Final one is, can you speak more to whether you think this dynamic with vodka is actually good or bad for your brown spirits?

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

I think, certainly for the brown spirits, if people shift out of white goods and go to brown goods, net, that's great for Brown-Forman's, particularly its American business.

Mark Swartzberg
Analyst, Stifel Nicolaus

What I'm referring to is the promotional activity picking up specifically.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Yeah. Actually, I think promotional activity picking up, I would say not just United States, I'd say globally, and I wouldn't confine it just to vodka either. I just think when you have softness in emerging markets for some of our competitors, when you have some of the corporate growth rates that we observe with some of our competition, particularly at the underlying sales growth rate, you anticipate that they will fight and compete for that sales dollar more aggressively. That goes across categories, in my view, and can be observed on strong trademarks that might exist in everything from rum to gin to cognac to vodka. We anticipate and observe, it varies market by market, that people will continue to be competitive, and that sometimes will take the form of promotional pricing.

I wouldn't say that it's at a level that I would find out of control or something that I would raise that's any different than what I might have observed three or six months ago. I think the other thing that we continue to watch out for are what are the new innovations that competition are bringing, because it's new forms of competitive activity in the marketplace. It's a reminder to corporations like Brown-Forman that are doing well, that they too need to be innovating and continuing to bring products to the market that can meet the needs of the consumer and the trade. The two things we'll keep a close eye on are what level of promotional pricing are out there and the level of competitive introductions of new products.

Mark Swartzberg
Analyst, Stifel Nicolaus

Got it. Great. Very helpful. Thank you, guys.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

You're welcome. Thanks for the question.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Bryan Spillane from Bank of America.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

Hi, good morning.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Hi, Bryan.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

Jane, I want to just go back through, make sure I understood a few of the components that you outlined, in terms of just breaking down the first quarter. The underlying growth to the bridge, I guess, from 3% in underlying sales growth to a sort of adjusted 6% is really just the change or the effect of retailer inventories coming down. Is that right?

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

That's correct.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

Because the distributor inventory is already reflected in our numbers. Yes.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

That's.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

Then the just rough weighting, just how much of that gap, if you will, between three and six was, I guess, the U.S. versus what you saw in the U.K. and Germany? Just trying to get a rough idea of the proportions in terms of how much they might have contributed.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

It was about two-thirds, one-third U.S.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

versus Europe.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

If I'm looking at Operating Income, I know you guys measure yourselves, one of the measurements that you use for management is Depletion-Based Adjusted Operating Income. I guess if you were kind of looking at that measure, just trying to get a sense for what the profit implication was in the quarter for the change in depletions because of the inventory adjustment. Just trying to get an understanding of how much of a profit hit it might've been.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Pretty good, I'd say.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

It would've been.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Yeah. You'd have to slow the three points all the way down to the OI line.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

Yeah, you do.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Yeah.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

Yes.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

It'd be more impactful than three.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

Way more impactful.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Yeah.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

Yeah.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

Yeah. Fair to say, right? I mean, that the retail inventory.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

Let me get down.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

I was going to say, the retail inventory adjustments, that effect in this quarter was one of the things that was probably a little, or magnitude was a little bit more than what you were expecting. When we look at it from an operating profit and earnings per share basis, there was actually a more meaningful, sort of unexpected drag in the quarter just because of that dynamic. Is that fair?

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

I would say, yeah. I don't want to over-exaggerate it. I think we anticipated the U.S., we anticipated some in Europe, but just not quite to the extreme. I wouldn't take that whole amount, if you will. In theory, it was a little bit.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Yeah. We weren't fine-tuned in terms of our own even, just as we don't go and provide quarterly guidance, on our earnings. I think it was a simultaneous qualitative and quantitative exercise that informed our expectations. We just weren't that obsessed with trying to forecast it in advance, how much of the inventory-

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

Exact number

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

might impact the overall bottom line earnings. We try to give ourselves just some sense of how it might hit the top line. Nonetheless, I think your point's relevant. It did, of course, have an impact on the underlying operating income growth rate.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay. It was, and is, approaching this quarter, the first quarter, trying to model it was sort of like one of my kids' math word problems. There were just so many different components. I guess, and not trying to get you into a 2Q discussion, I guess, if you could, just in terms of some of the big puts and takes that we might need to consider as we're modeling 2Q, do you have any color you could give us in terms of inventory adjustments or any of those types of things that, just from a big picture, at least, that we may need to think about?

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

I mean, nothing that we would guide on. I think an expectation of improvement. The only other thing that we know that is a difference from prior years that we anticipate being a help in the marketplace, particularly competitively during important seasons. We anticipate there being more gift and value added that cycles in at a greater level. Some of that, I guess, could hit Jane in Q2, just some of the shipments and a bit in Q3. It might be spread between Q2 and Q3. Otherwise, it's the classic culprits of inventory shifts, FX. I mean, the things you're trying to read in order to get down to a really good underlying number.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

Yeah. I would just take off where Paul left off. I would think about Q2 and Q3 probably being more normal. I think Q4 will be a bit easier. I think component pieces of the P&L, I talked about SG&A a little bit, it'll continue to be high, definitely for the second quarter, and start to come down somewhat in the third quarter, really come down in the fourth quarter. You'll see spend more normalized, A&P spend, which was abnormal, obviously, for the quarter here, timing related only. I think that's just a few of the-

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Nothing on anything from Jack Daniel's Tennessee Fire Jane Morreau mentioned in Q2. If anything had an impact, it would be in the second half at the earliest, I think, as it relates to significant impact. Of course, we'll just keep you posted on that as we have plans that we are ready to talk about.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay. Just, I got two other short follow-ups. One, if there has been any change in the expectation for the CapEx range for the year. The second, following up on Mark Swartzberg's question about acceleration. I want to make sure I heard. There is acceleration that we should see in terms of shipments should accelerate because of some of this inventory noise and that type of thing. Is there an expectation that end takeaway should also accelerate meaningfully? That was not quite clear to me whether the acceleration kind of referred to just what you will be shipping versus expecting some meaningful acceleration in takeaway.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

I do not know that we have got to that level where we feel like it has to jump up considerably. Certainly versus Q1's reported results. At the consumer takeaway level, I think if there is one thing that could have an impact, there are certain market-by-market examples we could give of this. The one thing that you would anticipate having a positive impact is less pressure in the marketplace on consumer prices because we are, in fact, not getting as much benefit from taking price increases. I think that as with the passage of each month and as the prices establish themselves, and as you are always thinking about that from a competitive reference point, it will depend a bit on what our competition is doing as well.

I think versus prior years, if anything, that would be a potential contributor to acceleration versus deceleration, the fact that we are taking less price.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay. Jane, just CapEx, any change in the CapEx guidance?

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

No, it's unchanged. Still $120-$140 range is what we-

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

have provided, yeah.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst, Bank of America

Great. Thank you, guys. Have a great Labor Day holiday as well.

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

You too.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

You too. Thanks.

Operator

Your last question comes from the line of Robert Ottenstein from ISI Group.

Robert Ottenstein
Analyst, ISI Group

Thank you very much. I was wondering if you could help us ring-fence the potential downside in Russia, how to think about the situation there. I know you said about 2% of sales. If things got really bad, kind of worst case scenario, how much potential income statement impact could there be?

Jane Morreau
EVP and CFO, Brown-Forman

I think it is just really too early to quantify the potential impact. It is a really fluid situation.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Yeah. We are obviously working more right now to, frankly, in some ways understand it, attempt to mitigate and communicate and in as direct a way as we can cooperate with what we consider to be the authorities, who have, in a very limited way, from what we understand thus far, with respecting one region and with three stores, just literally open up those lines of communication to try to administratively cooperate with them. That is sort of where we are, I think. Really, it is just premature to go and start doing any significant risk assessments at this stage. I think we want to get more information before we even undertake that exercise.

Robert Ottenstein
Analyst, ISI Group

Okay. No, I can certainly appreciate that. Perhaps something easier to speak on. Could you just give us a little bit of an assessment of how the new French infrastructure is working out?

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Great so far. It went live in the beginning of the calendar year. You have normal sort of transition issues in both the marketplace and that the people themselves encounter with being a new company. It was very well planned. I think we put investment in upfront so that it could launch in the way that it has effectively done. I would say that just more qualitatively, the vibe that you pick up when being around the people who are undertaking the Brown-Forman France today is really encouraging. Of course, Jack Daniel's has been a very leading performer in that marketplace now for some time. Actually, we continue to have very high hopes for it.

For this year, you'll probably hear more about the margin as it makes its way in, as well as some of the costs, the margin impact is significant for us this year as it makes its way into its first full year. From there on, going out, it really becomes about implementing in the marketplace, innovating, doing the right. Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey is entering that market, which I think is very, it's off to a great start. All of that becomes the important exercise, and we'll keep you posted. I know there's a lot of interest on what might happen in France and Europe more broadly. As a counter to the sort of these trading patterns that we talked about in the U.K. and Germany, I'm glad you brought it up, because France continues to do very well for Brown-Forman.

Robert Ottenstein
Analyst, ISI Group

Can you give us any sense of the volume acceleration that you're seeing now?

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

No. Actually, it wasn't planned, I think, as some massive acceleration to help either pay for it or to recoup it. It was really that probably more captured in the margin than it is in any volume acceleration. I know one of the things that group is doing now that they've got their own company, is looking to what possibilities might exist for some forms of acceleration or innovation in that marketplace now that we have more direct influence over the marketplace. Those tend to come in the forms of three and five-year plans.

Robert Ottenstein
Analyst, ISI Group

My last question, I was very interested to hear your comments on flavors, I know you guys plan long term. Just so we have an idea of kind of how to ballpark these things, 10 years out, how many flavors do you think that the Jack Daniel's brand could carry long term?

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

As expressed, your example of a flavor being kind of the Tennessee Honey or Tennessee Fire?

Robert Ottenstein
Analyst, ISI Group

Exactly.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

Yeah.

Robert Ottenstein
Analyst, ISI Group

Obviously, I don't think anybody expects anything like vodka. Are we talking about two or three, a dozen? Just kind of sort of round numbers. How should we think about what you see the long-term potential for different types of flavors?

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

I don't. It's hard, of course, the crystal ball is really difficult. At this point, I'd find it hard to think, just using a number like 10, that at least for my limited visibility looking into the future, something about that doesn't make me feel real good.

Robert Ottenstein
Analyst, ISI Group

Yep.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

That the two, and I'd say that which is one with still studying and looking at the second one at a preliminary stage, feels about right for us right now. I think what you want to do, though, is with Jack Daniel's, and there have been times where Jack Daniel's may lead the consumer marketplace. It's harder for a big trademark like this. You want to be innovative and all that, but we also are simultaneously quite protective. If the consumer marketplace evolves to the point where, actually, to be competitive, it required the trademark to do more than a couple, that would create a different opportunity than I would say exists today. From what we've seen right now in terms of flavor, it's really been, in any kind of scale, really just two flavors for whiskey.

That doesn't mean that there won't be broad acceptance of other forms, because there's no way 6 or 7 years ago, I would've forecasted two pretty significant, very scaled volume metric markets associated with honey-flavored whiskey and cinnamon-flavored whiskey. We wouldn't have been able to anticipate it. Some of it we'll have to see where the consumer marketplace evolves to, but our current plans wouldn't forecast a rapid expansion of flavors. I'll give you another example, Jane Morreau referenced this, of a different type of flavor that we might forecast is, and we've been slowly releasing this into very limited distribution in the U.S. the last couple of years, has been the possibilities of going into rye whiskey, which has been a very hot category in the U.S. of late.

We've been making rye whiskey and then releasing limited amounts of it in its various stages of aging to whet the appetite of the marketplace. That's a different flavored whiskey. It's not necessarily what I'll call the liqueur type of flavored whiskey that you're referring to. I think that kind of innovation could be important as well. Then the other extremely attractive, potentially, area of innovation around the Jack Daniel's trademark, beyond flavors and RTDs, is really the higher rungs of the ultra-premium ladder, which the Jack Daniel's No. 27 Gold and Jack Daniel's Sinatra would represent the latest, very limited distribution and very limited offerings associated with those. Really important, not only to marketing, but if in fact we get those to any sort of size, they could become important to particular markets because they're very efficient in their production of profit.

The ultra-premium end alongside the flavored end. I continue to think that, at least to date, has been a unique opportunity for trademarks like Jack Daniel's that exist in American whiskey. We haven't seen that potential to go both upward on the pricing ladder and across on flavor in many other categories.

Robert Ottenstein
Analyst, ISI Group

No, that's very helpful. I take it from your comments that you don't see maple as having a lot of potential?

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

I know there's a couple of expressions of maple in the market, and they've kind of gone up and down a little bit there, nothing has really been developed there. Of course, that is a very natural flavor in a lot of whiskeys anyway, I don't know how different as a taste that is for attracting new consumers. One of the tests we consider when we look at these is does it bring new people who otherwise appreciate either, maybe let's say, appreciate the trademark but don't like all the offerings provided by the trademark but might enjoy it in a different format. The ability of it to bring in new consumers.

It's been my just very distant observation, that particularly with the example of maple, that there were high levels of cannibalization, in some instances, at least that was anecdotally or qualitatively what I was observing. I don't have any facts behind that. It would make sense because it's a much more slight variation on the whiskey than something more, where the flavor itself is quite different as it is with the honey and the cinnamon.

Robert Ottenstein
Analyst, ISI Group

Terrific. Thank you very much.

Paul Varga
President and CEO, Brown-Forman

You're welcome. Thanks for your question.

Jay Koval
Director of Investor Relations, Brown-Forman

Thanks, Paul, and thanks to all of you for joining us today for Brown-Forman's first quarter earnings call. Please feel free to reach out to us if you have any additional questions, and have a great Labor Day weekend.

Operator

Thank you. That concludes today's Brown-Forman's first quarter fiscal 2015 earnings conference call. You may now disconnect.