Good morning, and welcome to Deere's Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. Your lines have been placed on listen only until the question and answer session of today's conference. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Tony Hiegel, Director of Investor Relations. Thank you.
You may begin.
Hello. Also on the call today are Raj Kalathur, our Chief Financial Officer Marie Zeigler, Deputy Financial Officer and Susan Carlix, Manager, Investor Communications. Today, we'll take a closer look at Deere's Q3 earnings, then spend some time talking about our markets and how we expect to end the fiscal year. After that, we'll respond to your questions. Please note that slides are available to complement the call this morning.
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Susan?
Thank you, Tony. John Deere's strong performance continued in the Q3 of 2013. Earnings jumped 26 percent on a sales increase of 4%. Both earnings and sales were the highest of any third quarter in the company's history and it marked our 13th quarter in a row of record profits. The gain was led by Ag and Turf, which had another terrific quarter with operating margins of about 17%.
Financial Services also made a major contribution, while Construction and Forestry kept profits in line with last year in spite of a slump in sales. No doubt, John Deere is being helped by a strong market for large farm machinery in North and South America. However, our results show disciplined execution of our business plans too, plans focused on winning new customers around the world, while keeping a close watch on costs and asset levels. In all, it was a productive quarter, putting John Deere well on the way to another very good year. Now let's take a look at the 3rd quarter in detail, beginning on Slide 3.
Net sales and revenues were up 4% in the quarter to $10,000,000,000 Net income attributable to Deere and Company was $997,000,000 As noted, both sales and income were the best ever 3rd quarter results recorded by the company. On slide 4, total worldwide equipment operators net sales were $9,300,000,000 up 4% quarter over quarter, including an unfavorable impact from currency translation of about 1 point. Price realization in the quarter was positive by 3 points. Turning to a review of our individual businesses. Let's start with Agriculture and Turf on slide 5.
Sales were up 8% in the quarter on continuing strength in the global ag economy, especially North and South America. Operating profit was $1,300,000,000 up 32%. The division's results included an impairment charge for long lived assets related to John Deere Water of approximately $50,000,000 pre tax, dollars 44,000,000 after tax. Before we review the industry sales outlook, let's look at some of the fundamentals of the Ag business. Slide 6 outlines U.
S. Farm cash receipts. For the year ahead, crop yields are forecast to be higher than in 2012 and much closer to normal, but prices will be somewhat lower. This reflects recovery from last year's drought conditions. Conversely, livestock receipts are forecast to be higher in 2013 than 2012.
As a result of these factors, our forecast calls for 2013 cash receipts to be about $390,000,000,000 the 2nd highest on record and a solid level of income. On slide 7, with forecasts of a bumper crop, lower crop prices and an increase in stocks to use ratios, our initial outlook for 2014 U. S. Farm cash receipts is down modestly, but remains at a historically high level approximately $380,000,000,000 2014 cash receipts, the number one predictor of farm equipment sales are expected to remain at an excellent level, helping keep farmers in a financially sound position. Our economic outlook for the EU 28 is on Slide 8.
We continue to see offsetting trends in the EU. On the one hand, ag fundamentals remain positive and production is expected to increase about 7%. Above average commodity prices are driving supportive farm income. Beef prices are leveling off at historic highs, while pork and milk prices are favorable. On the other hand, farm machinery demand is expected to be lower in 2013 as the financial crisis continues to weigh on farmer sentiment and softness in the UK continues.
On Slide 9, you'll see the economic fundamentals outlined for a few of our other targeted growth markets. Of note is the decline in our outlook for the CIS countries. The market is softer than our previous forecast as import duties continue affecting combine demand in Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus. Hot dry weather has impacted crop prospects in Southern Russia and Ukraine. And credit availability is also hurting equipment demand.
Slide 10 illustrates the value of agricultural production, a good proxy for the health of agribusiness in Brazil. With expectations for strong soybean crop due to an increase in acres planted, higher yields and sustained high crop prices, the 2013 value of ag production in Brazil is expected to increase about 6% over the 2012 level. Our 2013 Ag and Turf Industry outlooks are summarized on Slide 11. In the U. S.
And Canada, we continue to see strength in demand, especially for high horsepower tractors and combines. We continue to project industry sales to be up about 5% in relation to the healthy levels of 2012. The EU 28 industry outlook is down about 5%, no change from our prior forecast. Throughout fiscal 2013, we have each quarter raised the industry outlook for South America, and we have done so again. Based on a combination of positive farm fundamentals plus supportive financing programs in Brazil, we now expect industry sales of tractors and combines in South America to be up about 20% in 2013.
South America continues to grow in importance for Deere. Our tractor market share has grown considerably, but our strong presence in combines, sugarcane harvesters and seeding equipment should not go unnoticed. Shifting to the CIS. As we noted earlier, our 2013 industry outlook is now moderately lower, a decrease from a quarter ago. In Asia, we continue to forecast little change in industry sales from 2012.
Turning to another product category. We now expect industry retail sales of turf and utility equipment in the U. S. And Canada to be up about 5% in 2013 as favorable summer weather has driven much stronger demand. Deere is seeing strength in commercial mowing equipment, utility vehicles and 0 track mowers.
Putting all this together on Slide 12, fiscal year 2013 Deere sales of worldwide ag and turf equipment continue to be forecast to be up about 7%, including about one point of negative currency translation. 2013 operating margin for the Ag and Turf division is forecast at about 16%, a point increase since our last forecast. As we have discussed all year, last year's 4th quarter sales were particularly strong. Production schedules were higher to accommodate the interim Tier 4 transition at a time when the factories were running at very high rates to catch up with customer orders. Consequently, sales for ag in the Q4 of 2013 are expected to be lower than the Q4 a year ago.
This reflects a tough comparison. It does not indicate any change in our outlook for demand or global ag fundamentals. Let's focus now on Construction and Forestry on slide 13. Net sales were down 11% in the quarter and operating profit was down 5%, due to lower shipment volumes. The $190,000,000 decline in sales with only a $6,000,000 reduction in operating profit is a reflection of price realization, good execution and lever pulling to control costs in response to slow demand.
On Slide 14, looking at the economic indicators on the bottom part of the slide, the outlooks for GDP and government spending have softened since last quarter. Although overall economic growth continues at a sluggish pace, we are beginning to see some positive indicators. While moving very slowly, residential investment is growing. Home sales and prices are increasing. And there are reports that the number of build ready lots are dwindling.
Global forestry markets are now expected to be up 5% to 10% in 2013 as weakness in Europe and Asia is more than offset by improvement in North America. I'm sorry Europe and Russia is more than offset by improvement in North America. Forestry markets in the U. S. Are considerably higher due to the year over year increase in housing starts.
Fiscal 2013 net sales in Construction and Forestry are now forecast to be down about 8%. Our previous outlook was down about 5%. The year over year sales decline is reflected in lower inventory and receivable numbers and it has had an impact on mix as we reduce shipments of high margin equipment. C and F's full year operating margin is now projected be about 6%, a one point improvement from last quarter as the division is pulling levers and cutting costs to meet its operating goals. Let's move now to our Financial Services operations.
Slide 15 shows the Financial Services provision for credit losses at 3 basis points based on a percentage of the total average owned portfolio at the end of the quarter. This reflects the excellent quality of our portfolios and recoveries from prior year's write offs. Our 2013 financial forecast now contemplates a loss provision of about 5 basis points as a percentage of the average owned portfolio. This is well below the 10 year average of about 28 basis points. Moving to slide 16.
Worldwide Financial Services net income attributable to Deere and Company was $150,000,000 in the 3rd quarter versus $110,000,000 last year. The increased provision for credit losses cited in the press release is a function of small reductions taken in the Q3 of 2012. The loss experience on the portfolio remains at an extremely low level. For the full year, net income attributable to Deere and Company is now forecast to be about $560,000,000 Slide Slide 17 outlines receivables and inventory. For the company as a whole, receivables and inventories ended the quarter up about $20,000,000 or equal to approximately 30% of prior 12 month sales compared with 32.3% a year ago.
The year over year forecasted downward tweak in ag is due to the impact of currency and reflects no real change in absolute inventory levels. CNF is now projected to be down about $175,000,000 as we respond to slowing demand and a reduction in Canadian consigned inventories. We expect to end 2013 with receivables and inventory up about $50,000,000 Our guidance for cost of sales as a percentage of net sales shown on slide 18 remains at approximately 74% for the full year. Factors affecting cost of sales include price realization, production or manufacturing costs, raw material costs, engine emission product costs, absorption and effects of foreign currency. When modeling the full year, keep in mind the following: price realization, we are forecasting about 3 points in 2013 favorable year over year raw material costs the impact on cost of sales of new employees interim Tier 4 product costs, absorption due to the low build in inventory compared to 2012 and an unfavorable mix of product in C and F as we talked about earlier.
Looking at R and D expense on slide 19. R and D was down about 8% in the Q3 compared with the same period last year. This is consistent with our earlier guidance that the increase in R and D spending for 2013 would occur in the first half of the year. Our 2013 forecast continues to call for R and D expense to be up about 3% for the full year. Moving now to slide 20.
SA and G expense for the equipment operations was up about 4% in the 3rd quarter. Very much like R and D, the quarter over quarter increases for SA and G were heavily weighted to the first half of the year. SA and G expense is forecast to be up about 7% in 2013, no change from our previous guidance. On Slide 21, pension and OPEB expense was up about $15,000,000 in the quarter compared with last year. Turning to Slide 22.
The equipment operations tax rate was about 36% in the 3rd quarter. For full year 2013, the effective tax rate is forecast to be in the range of 34% to 36%, representing no change from our previous forecast. On slide 23, you see our equipment operations history of strong cash flow. Our forecast for cash flow from equipment operations is now about $3,800,000,000 in 2013. Of note is a $700,000,000 Deere and Company debt maturity in April 2014.
On slide 24, we outline our 2013 outlook for the Q4 and full year. Our net sales forecast for the Q4 is down about 5% compared with 2012 due to the extremely tough comparison discussed earlier. This includes about 3 points of price realization. The full year forecast calls for net sales to be up about 5% with one point of unfavorable exchange. Thus, the forecast at constant currency up about 6% represents no change from our last forecast.
Price realization is expected to be positive by about 3 points. Finally, our full year 2013 net income forecast has increased to about $3,450,000,000 In closing, John Deere is well on the road to another year of impressive performance. Even with a difficult comparison in store for the Q4, our financial guidance implies a healthy level of income, helping us wrap up a 3rd consecutive year of record results. Also, it is significant to note that Deere has been consistently setting new performance records despite facing some significant headwinds, including a sluggish global economy, political gridlock in Washington and a host of major product changeovers associated with more stringent emissions rules. As for the longer term picture, it remains extremely bright.
Indeed, the broad trends we've been talking about based on a growing richer more urban population appear to have plenty of staying power, staying power that we believe will help the company deliver substantial value to its customers and investors for years to come. Tony?
Thank you, Susan. Now we're ready to begin the Q and A portion of the call. The operator will instruct you on the If you have additional questions, we ask that you rejoin the queue. Operator?
Thank you. Our first question comes from Ross Gilardi. And please state your company name.
Thanks, America. Thank you.
Hi, Ross.
Hey, good morning. I just want to ask about your cash receipt outlook. So I mean, if you look at your cash receipt outlook for 2014, if you're right, cash receipts will essentially have been flat for the last 4 years from 2011 to 2014 yet Deere's top line is obviously grown substantially. So is the relationship between cash receipts and equipment breaking down? Is there a risk that you have to give a lot of that sales increase back in coming years even if cash receipts are kind of flattish next year?
Or could you explain that? Because clearly your sales have been growing at a much faster pace than cash receipts for the last several years?
Sure. And I just want to clarify, you're speaking to the U. S. Farm cash receipt number. And as you've talked about in the past, that is probably the best indicator of equipment sales.
And we have talked about in recent years, Ross, that at these very high levels of cash receipts, when you see fluctuations, plus or minus 5%, we would view those really as relatively flattish. And so to your point, longer term, certainly, we don't believe there's a breakdown in the correlation between cash receipts and equipment sales. But when you're at these very high levels, it isn't necessarily as direct of a relationship as you would see over a longer cycle.
Maybe just to add to what Tony said. First, we have had very good price realization and we have benefited from the array of new products that we have introduced over the last several years including in Brazil, which has been a very strong growth market for us and we have significantly increased our presence and our sales in that market. So you're really seeing the benefit of a number of investments.
Okay. Thank you. And then could you just clarify, you've increased your net income outlook, but kept your sales outlook unchanged. Why is that?
Better execution. We are you're seeing good discipline in terms of our R and D, our SA and G, factory spend. And we have successfully gone through the balance of the IT4 transitions, So a number of positive trends and again kudos to our operating folks.
Got you. Thanks very much.
Thanks, Rob. Next caller?
Thank you. The next question comes from Andrew Kaplowitz. And please state your company name.
Hey, guys. It's Barclays. Nice quarter.
Thank you.
Tony or Murray, maybe you can give us a little more color on the early order book in the context of we know you had a combine program out there that was sort of early, early order program. And then maybe if you can talk about has there been any impact from the recent drop in crop prices on that order book?
Yes. And with combines in particular, it's a little difficult to talk about year over year changes, because it is different this year. We did have a window in June really related to our final Tier 4 transition. Typically, our early order program begins in August. That program went very well.
But keep in mind that it was a relatively short window and then we'll open up the early order program again after our new product introduction for final Tier 4 production in 2014. So it's fairly early. On the other early order programs, so the spring programs that would be planters, seeding equipment, tillage in particular. We had a very, very good year in 2012 with the early order program. And we're running about flat with those programs last year.
And so again, that bodes very well. Again, it's early, of course, but the early order programs to date are doing very well. And I would point out to the extent that the combined early order program in June, all the slots did fill, as expected. And then the other thing while we're talking about order book into next year, is that we tend to talk about at this point is on tractors. As you know, we don't have an early order program because it's not seasonal.
But again, tractors are at or better than in most cases than what they were a year ago. In fact, if you look at our 8R tractors, on the wheel tractors, we're basically out into April, May on our availability, which takes us beyond our final Tier 4 transition. Last year availability was January. 9R tractors are roughly in line as you look at I'm sorry, that's 8R tracks are roughly in line with a year ago. The 9R, the large 4 wheel drive tractors, wheel tractors are a little ahead.
This year they're November, last year was September. And then the tracks are a little bit behind year over year. But again, generally speaking, when you look at our order books, we're in very strong position against very high levels last year.
Okay, Tanya. That's helpful. Can I ask you about the U? S. Farm cash receipt forecast in a different way?
Specifically, you only have crop receipts dropping about 4% despite what corn prices have done lately over the summer. You guys are usually pretty conservative with your forecast. Yet if I talk to the bears out there on ag, they would say that your forecast looks not
is our best forecast. And remember that cash receipts is a function of quantity, which will be very good this year in addition to price. And I think perhaps some are focusing as much on the quantity.
That's helpful, Maureen. Thank you, guys.
Thank you. Next caller?
Thank you. The next question comes from Jerry Revich. And please state your company name.
Hi, good morning. It's Goldman Sachs.
Hi, Jerry.
Tony, Marie, can you just say more about the factory productivity improvement we saw in the quarter in Ag and Turf as you finished the interim Tier 4 transition. It sounds like you're starting to get significantly improved productivity. Does that continue into the 4th quarter? And then just help us get a sense for the relative complexity of now transitioning to Tier 4 final again compared to the transition that you've just went through on Tier 4?
Yes. As it relates to productivity, when you think about Q4, keep in mind, as we talked about in the opening comments, levels, especially as it relates to the combine factory and we would be at more normal levels this year. And so you'll see a little bit of a change there in a year over year basis. Of course, as we move into final Tier 4, that's largely going to impact certain quarters as we move into 2014. Combines, for example, will begin transitioning in January.
I mentioned or hinted at at least a little earlier that our ADAR tractors will transition in the April timeframe. And so we'll go through those transitions very similar to what we had in 2010. And so we'll have some quarter over quarter disruptions as we go through the year.
Maybe just the other thing. In the Q4 in selected products, we will start the transition or we'll start the factory prep. So there will be a little bit of impact. But nonetheless, there's been a real focus on the high quality execution you've come to expect from Deere and you're seeing that in our results.
Okay. And in terms of the production schedule into the 4th quarter and maybe Murray part of it is what you mentioned a moment ago, but the sequential decline is the biggest we've seen since looks like 2,006 in Q4 versus the Q3. How much of that is Tier 4 final transition versus other factors? Just help us understand the sequential move. And obviously, you explained it on a year over year basis.
I'm just trying to understand the sequential
drivers. Maybe the most important thing is to remember that last year we shifted $350,000,000 of shipments out of the Q3 into the Q4, again the long and probably overtalked about combines. And so that is probably the single biggest factor. There will be some adjustments here and there, but that's really the biggest.
Okay. Thank you.
You got that.
Great. Thank you. Next caller?
You. The next question comes from David Raso. And please state your company name.
ISI. I just needed some clarification on the order book commentary. For what's in the order book in those time periods you gave us, those are largely all non final Tier 4, they're interim Tier 4?
That would be correct. We are announcing our final Tier 4 product actually this week. The new product introduction shows begin, and will be over the next couple of weeks. And then we'll, be announcing pricing and opening the order book for final Tier 4. So that is correct.
It's interim Tier 4 product.
And just trying to sorry, just trying to think about the pricing on the final Tier 4, how it could be impacting the orders to get the remaining interim Tier 4? How what's been communicated on the pricing? What are built into your expectations on the pricing? And really trying to get a read of some of the order book strength.
Yes. We have made no final Tier 4 price announcements at this point. So we've taken some small on combines, for example, price increase related to the interim Tier 4 orders that we have early in fiscal 2014, but we've announced no final Tier 4 price increases. Again, it would be a little premature to announce price increases before the actual product is announced. So that will those price increases will follow the introduction.
So would you characterize the order books as they stand even with obviously some overtures out there, people speculating on the price increases? It's reflective of the current demand out there. You would not characterize it as any pull forward getting in front of the final Tier 4 price increases?
Again, because we haven't announced them, I wouldn't speculate that direction. All we can point to is where the demand is at this point and what we're seeing in our order book is a continued very strong demand level, again comparable or in some cases slightly better than what we saw a year ago at very strong level. So that's about all we can say about that. So with that, thank you and we'll need to move to the next caller.
Thank you. The next question comes from Andy Casey. And please state your company name.
Wells Fargo Securities. Good morning.
Good morning.
Question on the Q3 ag and turf, if we could return to the margin performance, it was very good. Could you give the relative weighting for impact from volume, productivity and material cost tailwinds and stripping out the price and impairment charge?
Yes.
For Ag and Turf specifically, I don't know that I have that weighting. But as you look at the total cost of sales, obviously, we talked about in that ratio price realization certainly helping benefit that ratio. Raw material costs would be the other positive impacting the cost of sales in the quarter. But then you have overhead spend, which largely due to the higher employment costs, emission costs and some absorption as we had lower builds in inventory. I'm sorry and that's fiscal year numbers that
we've given you.
Sorry about that.
So if you look at the 3rd quarter, Andy, price realization was one of our biggest contributors to the operating profit improvement. Next to that was essentially our costs, okay? This is the cost material costs. And then there were contributions from mix as well. So those should be the 3 that stand out in that order.
Okay. Thank you.
And just a reminder that water impairment is $50,000,000
On the negative side.
On the negative side.
Yes. The reason I asked is if I strip out the impairment charge and the pricing, the incremental margin is still very strong somewhere around 30%.
Yes. Last year's Q3 had inefficiencies costs that we said for the ag and turf division were $50,000,000 to $75,000,000 which is something you do need to bear in mind.
So to that extent it was an easier comparison as well.
Okay. Thank you. That clears it up. And then the second question, just a question on Europe. There's some mixed signals coming out of there as you reflect in your forecast.
You have recent confidence indices turned to the cap subsidy package that are expected for next year?
Not significant at all. And if you look at what's being proposed for CAF, if you look at it in nominal terms, the subsidies really are basically flat in terms of what the proposal is. So
So, so far unlike other years where there has been talk ahead of a cap change, this has really been I hate to say non event, but been very quiet.
Very, very minor changes.
Okay.
Thank you very much. Yes. Next caller?
Thank you. The next question comes from Jamie Cook. And please state your company name.
Hi. Good morning, Credit Suisse.
Hi, Jamie.
Two questions. And sorry to harp on the 2014 cash receipt forecast. But I guess can you just give color when you guys have conversations with your dealers or with or when dealers are having conversations with the farmers, Marie, you point out that you have to look at the quantity and the crop price, but I think people are just concerned optically where for example corn prices are going that that will trump any mean quantity. So can you talk about what they're saying about given just where prices are and you think that could potentially have a bigger negative impact on demand in 2014 just because of how we get to the actual crop sorry cash receipt number? And then my second question, can you just talk about some of your peers have talked about a more competitive environment in construction, particularly seeing more discounting.
I'm just wondering if you could comment on what you're seeing in the industry? Thanks.
Okay. Let me start with the cash receipts number. In our modeling, we are far and away the biggest driver and the highest correlation is cash receipts and it doesn't discriminate between cash the commodity price and the quantity. So I will stop there. That is the biggest driver.
In terms of the construction market, since the market has candidly been softer than I think all expected, I'm not surprised to hear that there's some conversation about dynamics in the market. But we certainly don't have any comments related to pricing and our Construction Equipment division is a solid contributor to the three points of price realization that we announced for the year and certainly for the quarter.
Okay. Thanks. I'll get back to you.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question comes from Rob Wertheimer. And please state your company name.
It's Vertical Research Partners. Good morning. Wanted to ask about the Tier 4 final rollout. I gather you said you sold out the stub year on the combines. I guess you did not open up you didn't try to run the factories extra hard because I think you're implying combines are down year over year in 4Q.
Are you have you talked about whether you intend to do any extra Tier 4 interim production as you roll on the various final things? And I'm not sure if you're able to give a rough guesstimate of what your interim versus final production might be next year.
Yes. We don't yes, we haven't discussed what the production levels would be in the kind of pre final Tier 4 production for combines in early fiscal 2014. I can tell you that we are beginning the transition of combines in January. So you're really talking about the November, December production levels.
I think if your question was, is there further upside, the answer is no.
So you sold out what you want to sell it and you're done and it's probably not running the factory as hard as last year is what you've said?
The run rates in the Q4 of last year were really not sustainable. That would be the bottom line, not a way we would choose to run a business.
Excellent. And then second question, Tony, you mentioned the early order programs on the springtime product on Tilligent Planting. It's not something you guys have talked a lot about. Can you just kind of go through mechanically how that works? Whether that's a significant portion of the volume or just an indicator?
And obviously, I assume that would have no connection to the Tier 4 final stuff, so it would be an indicator of underlying strength, I guess?
Yes. With the exception of sprayers, of course, would be final Tier 4 affected. But when you look at the tillage and seeding and so on, and really the importance there is and we've talked about this a little bit in the past, tillage tends to be a fairly good leading indicator, simply because it's a relatively discretionary item. And so for us internally, we view it as a good leading indicator. So it's more indicative of underlying strength more than the impact necessarily would have on the top line or bottom line.
So all
right. Thanks.
Thank you very much. Next caller?
Thank you. The next question comes from Mig Dobre. And please state your company name.
Robert W. Baird. Good morning, guys.
Good morning. Good morning.
I guess, I'm wondering some of the newer models out there. We've heard that there's been a little bit of softness. And if that's so, I'm wondering how you think that impacts demand for equipment going forward?
Yes. As we look at pricing on used equipment, what we would you is overall, we're actually seeing pretty healthy level of pricing on used equipment. You see plus or minus a little bit. So large trackers pricing
up a single digit, combines down a single digit.
Okay. And then looking at the R and D expenses, obviously, much higher level than a couple of years ago because of all the Tier 4 related items. But I'm wondering, as we're looking out, say, to 2014, given the higher base that you're currently operating on, should we continue to expect growth in this line item? Or is it fair to say that this level can actually account for a lot of the Tier 4 final?
At this point, I would not speculate on 2014 expenses. As we've talked about, we don't provide guidance there. Some things maybe to consider is we aren't finished with final Tier 4. So we still have a number of products to transition both in the upcoming year and in the year following. And keep in mind also that we are continuing to invest in growth and in some cases that's investing in new products in certain key markets.
So that's about all we can say really at this point related to R and D. So thank you for your questions and next caller.
Thank you. The next question comes from Steven
Fisher. It's UBS. Good morning.
Good morning.
Wondering if you can just give us your thoughts on how the special depreciation benefits might play out over the next several months? How any debate kind of might be impacting or might impact near term sales? And then just kind of remind us how that played out for you guys last year?
Sure. Yes. If you look at the and you're really referring there's 2 separate items. There's a Section 179 that can be utilized with used equipment as well as new and then of course the bonus depreciation. Both are subject to the tax reform development.
As it looks at Section 179, it appears that there is much broader support for Section 179 in terms of speculation that it may or may not be extended, that's been included in proposals even to make it permanent through some of the small business tax reforms, proposals, those sorts of things. Certainly, as you move towards the end of the year, especially Section 179, we think has been helpful in moving used equipment in the past. We would tell you while bonus depreciation is certainly beneficial, we think it's had a marginal benefit on sales. There's a number of other factors beyond tax considerations that farmers consider. Last year would be a good example and you mentioned that.
As we approach the end of 2012, of course, the expectation both internally and by most externally was that the bonus depreciation would not be extended. Section 179 actually had already dropped. The change at the end of the year made it retroactive. And we did not see any impact in our order book once availability went beyond December 31, which again in our view kind of lends credibility to our view that at least last year, the expectation that the bonus depreciation would be eliminated did not impact our order volumes.
Okay, great. Thank you. Okay.
Thank you. Next caller?
Thank you. The next question comes from Eli Lustgarten.
Well, Longboat Securities. Good morning, everyone. Nice quarter.
Thank you.
Well, before we'll come back to ag in a minute, but can we talk a little bit about what's going on in the construction equipment sector? You went from down 8% to down 11%. Is that because of weaker end market or more inventory liquidation that is required? And are you expecting to complete all the inventory liquidation if that's part of it in this quarter, so we can think more normalizing for next year? And maybe quantify how much of the downturn is that?
We would say that it's both. Clearly the market has been weaker than we had anticipated and we are continuing to reduce some of our inventories. We would expect to have that completed by the end of this year, so that we would go into next year poised for what we hope will be a stronger market outlook based on at least the economic fundamentals.
And the other clarification I want to Eli, I want to make a clarification. You said down 8% to down 11%. Our forecast today is down 8%. It was previously down 5
But down 8, how much of that is inventory liquidation?
I don't have it. I don't know half half.
And again, keep in mind, they go hand in hand. As we've gone through the year, as we've seen the sales expectations decrease, of course, our dealers are seeing that as well and making the appropriate level of inventory reductions throughout the year. So as sales expectations come down, you're going to see an additional reduction in inventory,
getting lower, dealers have an incentive for holding less inventories as well. So that's also contributing to lower inventory in the channel.
Maybe I could just cite one positive note that we are seeing is that rental utilization is really up and high and that can be a leading indicator. We'll see how that plays out, but it's been exceptionally high.
Okay. And a quick follow on. Can you talk about combined schedules? I mean, we're getting from dealers the buildup of used inventory used goods at dealers, a 30% cut in allocations by a year for combined and over the Q4 for next year. And you have to clear, can you talk about what's going on in that market at point in the Q4 as you look out?
So I'll start with at the early part of the year, when you look at what allocations may or may not be that is really not a good predictor of what the future holds. We start very conservatively recall that we are in the midst of a transition. As you think about 2014, fairly significant transmission for our combine lines. So things are going to be parsed out over the course of the year in contrast to a traditional early order program where you really have your full year's number of slots available. Tony, do you want to add anything or Raj?
I would just the only thing I would add is, as you look at certainly, there are a high level of used combines in the marketplace, but it's really reflective of the high level of sales that we've had in the last really couple of years. And as you look at the sales increase over the last several months, it's on new sales is much higher than what we've seen increase on a percentage basis in used combine levels. So, while high, we're moving into a very key period of are confident with our dealer network as well as the pool fund strategy that we use that we're in a good position to be able to move those used combines and other used equipment as well out. So thank you and we'll move on to the next caller.
Thank you. The next question comes from Larry De Maria. And please state your company name.
Thank you, William Blair. Good morning. Not at the harp in the crop receipts, but obviously you guys don't believe the USDA numbers the other day as well that they were understated because you're forecasting bigger yields on similar harvested acres, which implies obviously much bigger production and a bigger carryout. Similar in soybeans, I think your carryout is over 10% versus 16% for corn going out for next year. But you kept the price very similar to the USDA, the same in corn and slightly lower in soybeans.
So that's the delta that I think we're all worried about. Can you just justify and explain why the price hasn't gone down that you're expecting, but the production levels you guys put forth are much higher?
Well, keep in mind, there's a large number of factors that go into each of those and into the price. And I also point out that our forecast did not change based on the USDA numbers that were recently reported that was put together prior to the release of that data and the basis for our and so forth in there. The other thing I would point out, there's a lot of conversation about the 4.90 corn. If you look back historically, that is still very strong pricing for corn, certainly down from last year, but let's keep in mind that last year's price was very high coming off of very low production due to the drought. And so the $4.90 corn from the information we get from Informa Economics is still very supportive for farmers.
We would tell you according to Informa that low $4 corn farmers are still making good money. So at 4.90 percent, still profitable levels for most farmers.
Okay. So it says August 14th in the slides, but this data is not in copy?
Those are a dear estimate as of that date.
Okay. And then separately, stick with the order books. You mentioned the seasonal orders for planners etcetera were flat I think year over year and last year was up 15%. Have orders come in strongly over the last few weeks to get you there? Because it seems like initially they were behind.
And then just more broadly the slide and coin that we've seen what kind of effect does that had on orders more recently less 4, 6 weeks? Thanks.
What I would tell you is we look at this at a snapshot and don't get down into the details of the week to week changes. But we can you is at this point, we are relatively flat year over year to your point at very, very high levels last year. And again, it's an early order program. It's early in the year, but those indicators are very strong. And as well, look at the tractor order book, which is equally as strong that we're seeing out into 2014.
So with that, we'll move on to the next caller.
Thank you. The next question comes from Adam Fleck. And please state your company name.
Hi, it's morning, sir. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions.
Good morning.
I had
a couple of
questions on Russia specifically. You commented I think last quarter that you wanted to see what happened with the import duties. Looks like they were extended. So with that being the case, can you just update us with your plans for the strategy there and localized content?
Adam, this is Raj. So yes, it was extended. And the indications are probably carry on for at least a few more months if not a couple more years. One of the things we are doing is to look at how we can organize our operations in Russia to qualify for less of a tariff or avoid the tariffs. So right now we do say an SKD assembly some of the considerations we would have is for CKD assembly.
So those are the types of changes we would be looking at and that varies by the product and the volumes that would justify for that particular product category, okay? So those should allow us to improve our volumes in Russia. But as we said directionally this is going to be an impact on us.
The only thing I would add is keep in mind these are they certainly create some short term challenges for us. But from a long term perspective, we remain very committed to that market. We continue to see a lot of strong opportunity there.
Okay, great. Thanks. And then just one follow-up, something that maybe doesn't get discussed too much, but can you just disclose what your parts sales
are to date? Are those up pretty substantially?
Yes. We don't disclose to date. What we would tell you is in past years, parts tend to run 15% to 20% of our sales. But beyond that, we can't go into more detail. Okay.
Thank you. Next caller?
Thank you. The next question comes from Ann Duignan. And please state your company name.
Hi, JPMorgan. Can you hear me okay?
We can.
Okay, good. Thanks. I just wanted to go back to the cash receipts discussion not to beat a dead horse or anything, but would you at least agree that we have probably capped the peak of cash receipts in that farmers are likely to grow more corn not only this year, but next year and cash receipts probably we don't see corn at 7% again unless we get another significant weather event in the next few years?
Ann, this is our best estimate. We are not soothsaying into the future, but I don't see anything that necessarily precludes prices from going up further. We know we have very strong demand conditions. You have the USDA increasing feed and residual use. You do have a slight bump on ethanol.
We see good demand in the market. And so I can't concede that. On the other hand, I can't guarantee anything in the future other than the fundamental tailwinds for our business continue to look very strong.
So if you look at the fundamental tailwinds of demand for ag commodities, it is very strong and it's continuing to be very strong. And that's a primary driver. So weather may impact it 1 year to the next, but the fundamental drivers of demand is still in place and that's going to drive our business here and throughout the world. So
Okay. Thank you. Next caller?
Okay. And my second question my follow-up question is back to the construction side. You just said that build ready lots are dwindling. Could you explain what you mean by that? And how do you get that data?
We anecdotally, we're hearing that. Actually, we picked that up in our interviews with our senior officers on multiple fronts. And what that means for us specifically is that a lot of the usage of our equipment in residential is when you are moving land to prepare the lots to put in the street to get the sewer into the division. So the fact that you see lower number of build ready lots so to speak may be a positive indicator as you move into the future that the increased demand for equipment in use? Essentially you can think
of this as vertical or horizontal constructions. What uses more of our equipment is when you set up a completely new subdivision and have residential construction and commercial construction around it. So right now early on after the downturn all the build ready lots are being taken up. And once there are no more these build ready lots, which is what we are hearing more of, there are going to be more constructions on on complete new subdivisions. That's what we meant by that.
Okay.
Yes. And I appreciate that. We've written extensively about that. But I was just wondering how we get that data and kind of figure out when we switch from kind of brownfield to greenfield. But you're just hearing it anecdotally if that's what I'm reading.
Correct. Okay. Thank you. Next caller.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question comes from Ashish Gupta. And please state your company name.
Hi, good morning. It's CLSA. Congratulations on such a strong quarter.
Thank you.
Can you give us a sense of what levers you might be able to pull in a down market? Maybe like what type of decremental margins you can manage towards?
I don't think we've been very specific. We have each single product line, each department within the company has a specific set of activities that as we move up or down we either cease or add. So it varies by product line by department. So Ashish, if
you look at our Construction Equipment business lower end demand, lower market demand were the case in the Q3. But if you look at what how we performed in terms of our whether it's R and D or SG and A and overall margin environment was impressive. Regardless of the end market environments, we are in a position to actually pull different levers or ramp up as necessary if necessary to meet those conditions. And that's what you saw in the construction case in
Q3.
And are you still in a position where you're continuing to add headcount to facilitate future growth in the different global regions?
I'd say the bulk of the headcount really occurred in the last couple of years. I don't I'm not actually candidly sure where we are year to date, but I don't anticipate there would be a lot other than perhaps in Brazil where we've got some we're approaching the start up of those factories there and maybe in China as well.
So the additions in 2010, 2011, 2012 were higher than in 2013, okay? So most of our investments have come in more towards our aspirations that we have expressed outside the 2018 aspirations.
Okay, great. Thank you. And we all have time for one more call.
Thank you. The final question comes from Seth Weber. And please state your company name.
Hey, good morning. It's RBC.
Hey, Seth.
So on capital allocation, it looked like your share repurchase actually picked up here in the quarter. I mean is that a are you kind of moving that up in the pecking order? How should we about share repo going forward? Or is it just you're being more opportunistic here in the quarter or something like that?
Well, our pecking order per se has not changed and we've long articulated maintain a strong balance sheet, invest in the business, return dividends and then excess cash would be used for share repurchase. We were very specific in the 1st and second quarters that we were conservative because going into those because of the fiscal cliff for the Q1 and then some residual shakiness if you will in the market in as we went into the Q2. As our cash flow has proven out, as we're through our peak use of cash, remember we are big users of cash in the 1st and second quarters. As our stock has continued to provide us with a very good buying opportunity, we think we're well below I mean significantly below our intrinsic value, we were able to step up the share repurchase.
Okay. So as we look to 2014, do you think your capital your CapEx number, the $1,300,000,000 for this year should come down that gives you some more firepower or I mean would you expect?
I think it's unlikely. We don't have a forecast for 2014 yet. Obviously, we're working on some plans. But remember there is still a significant amount of work to be done with final Tier 4 Ahead of us, you won't see as much in the way of new plant investment. A lot of that is behind us.
But there is a lot ahead of us in a concentrated period to meet final Tier 4.
Yes. We have said that out beyond at least out through 2014 that that 1.3% is probably a good at least short or mid term run rate to anticipate. And then beyond that as a percent of sales, we would expect to see CapEx start to come down. But depending on where our sales are, you may or may not see the absolute number come down at that point. So okay, thank you.
In conclusion, our strong performance continued in the Q3 of 2013 with earnings up 26% on a 4% sales increase and we're well on our way to another year of impressive performance. With that, we thank you for your participation in the call. And as always, we'll be available the rest of the day to answer any additional questions you may have. Operator?
Thank