Good morning, and welcome to Deere's First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Tony Hiegal, Director of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Hello. Also on the call today are Raj Kalathur, our Chief Financial Officer Marie Zeigler, Deputy Financial Officer and Susan Carlix, our Manager of Investor Communications. Today, we'll take a closer look at Deere's look at Deere's Q1 earnings, then spend some time talking about our markets and the current outlook for 2013. After that, we'll respond to your questions. Please note that slides are available to complement the call this morning.
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Thank you, Tony. With this morning's Q1 earnings announcement, John Deere has started 20 13 on a strong note. Income and sales both reached new records for the Q1 of the year. And this was our 11th consecutive quarter of record earnings. Our results benefited from healthy farm conditions and the strong sales of agricultural equipment.
Deere's performance also reflected success executing our ambitious marketing and operating plans. Such execution is especially important right now as we are adding new products and global capacity at unprecedented rates. Finally, our full year earnings forecast has been adjusted upward and now stands at about $3,300,000,000 All in all, it was a solid start to what is expected to be another good year. Now let's take a look at the Q1 in detail beginning on slide 3. Net sales and revenues were up 10% to $7,400,000,000 in the quarter.
Net income attributable to Deere and Company was $650,000,000 and earnings per share per $800,000,000 up 11% quarter over quarter including an unfavorable impact from currency translation of about 1 point. Price realization in the quarter was positive by 3 points. Turning to a review of our individual businesses. Let's start with Agriculture and Turf on slide 5. Sales and shipments were back end loaded in 2012 to facilitate our transition to interim Tier 4.
Operating profit $766,000,000 Before we review the industry sales outlook, let's look at some of the fundamentals affecting the Ag business. Slide 6 outlines U. S. Commodity price estimates that underlie our financial forecast. 2012, 2013 coin, corn, soybean and wheat prices reflect the production shortfall caused by the weather driven events that affected the 20112012 seasons and continue to support equipment sales.
At this time of the year, it is hard to determine what the 2013 2014 crop year will bring. Clearly, the upcoming growing season has a lot of questions around it. Among other things, it should be noted that existing moisture conditions show the U. S. Drought continues to be of significance.
Research however shows that the moisture situation going into the growing season has virtually no impact on the final outcome. The primary point is that temperature and moisture levels experienced during the key growing season are the most important factors in determining yield. As is our custom at this time of the year, our estimates for the 2013 2014 crop year assume normal weather and trend yields. Slide 7 shows planted acres and yields for the 20 twelve-twenty 13 crop year compared to the corresponding forecast for the 2013-twenty fourteen crop year. Again, assuming trend yields in normal weather conditions, corn yields are forecast to increase about 31%, while soybean yields are forecast to be up about 12%.
Slide 8 highlights cash receipts. Driven by strong crop prices, 2012 forecast cash receipts are at a record $389,000,000,000 In 2013, strong crop prices, higher yields and increased livestock receipts spurred receipts are the primary driver of equipment purchases in the U. S. Market. With cash receipts at record levels, this bodes well for future farm prospects.
Slide 9 illustrates U. S. Farm gross cash income, which is cash receipts plus other farm related income. This slide highlights the relatively small percentage that government payments and crop insurance play in gross cash income as represented by the green and black areas. Government payments in green are included in total cash receipt numbers on slide 8.
For the 3 years shown, government payments are only about 3 percent of the total. Crop insurance receipts are included in other farm related income, the black area and are at historic levels in 2011 2012 due to drought related events. Total crop insurance payments for 2012 are expected to be in the $15,000,000,000 to $16,000,000,000 range. As of last week, crop insurance industry payouts totaled roughly $13,500,000,000 At the high range, this equates to about 4% of
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Our economic outlook for the EU 27 is on slide 10. We are seeing offsetting trends in the EU. On one hand, strong crop prices are driving higher farm income. Conversely, in the U. K, the core harvest of 20 12 and wet weather conditions during the 2013 crop sowing season are impacting equipment demand.
As well, the overall economic situation continues to weigh on farmer sentiment. Financial conditions in Northern Europe continue to be more favorable than in Southern Europe with Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain all experiencing severe recession. On slide 11, you'll see the economic fundamentals outlined for a few of our other targeted growth markets. Let's focus on the CIS where our outlook has changed considerably from 1 quarter ago. Going into effect today and running through July 5, an additional 27.5 import duty has been placed on all imported combines going Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus bringing the import duty to 32.5%.
This will have a considerable negative impact on sales of imported combines in these countries. Slide 12 illustrates the value agricultural production, a good proxy for the health of agribusiness in Brazil. It encompasses over 20 different crops and has a high correlation to tractor sales over time. With forecast for a record soybean season due to an increase in acres planted, higher yields and sustained high crop prices, the 2013 value of ag production in Brazil ag and turf industry outlooks are summarized on slide 13. Industry sales in the U.
S. And Canada are now expected to be flat to up 5% in relation to the healthy levels of 2012. We continue to see strength in demand, especially for high horsepower tractors and combines. However, our outlook is tempered by drought related effects on the livestock sector. The EU27 industry outlook is now down about 5%.
The number one driver in the decline to our outlook is last year's poor harvest and wet weather conditions that could affect the 2013 crop in the U. K. Also weighing on the outlook are overall economic conditions in Europe and the potential for further weakening. Industry sales of tractors and combines in South America are now expected to be up 10% to 15% in 2013. With strong commodity prices, forecast call for an increase in planted acres resulting in significantly higher crop production.
In addition, current government programs in Brazil support higher amounts of equipment sales. Not only is the 20 twelve-twenty 13 subsidy amount allocated to agriculture higher by about 7.5%, but interest rates are also extremely low. Tsunami financing is at 3% until June 30, then it goes to 3.5 through the end of December. Our 2013 industry outlook in the CIS countries is now down slightly due to import duties that are expected to reduce demand as previously discussed. In Asia, we now expect industry demand to be slightly higher in 2013 versus 2012.
In China, ag subsidies are expected to be higher and very supportive of equipment sales. In addition, Chinese grain output is expected to increase and farm modernization initiatives are continuing to move ahead. Although the India tractor market remains soft and industry sales aren't expected to improve from last year, it is encouraging that interest rates were recently lowered in order to support the economy. Turning to another product category, we now expect industry retail sales of turf and utility equipment in the United States and Canada to be about flat in 2013, reflecting cautious consumer sentiment. Deere expects to outperform the industry with the launch of new turf and utility products, especially new utility vehicles.
Putting this all together on slide 14. Fiscal year 2013 Deere sales of worldwide ag and turf equipment are now forecast to be up about 6%, 2 points higher than our November outlook. 2013 operating margin for the Ag and Turf division is forecast at about 15%. Let's focus now on Construction and Forestry on slide 15. The division's results were affected by lower shipment volumes, higher production costs including those associated with interim Tier 4 and unfavorable mix of product.
Quarter over quarter was a very tough compare for C and F. Normally the first quarter has low production. In the Q1 last year, especially in November December, the division had extremely high production volumes of high horsepower machines to facilitate the transition to interim Tier 4 engines. As a result, mix in the current quarter also shifted to more purchased products like excavators and the smaller commercial worksite machines. Increased R and D and S.
A. And G expenses in support of global growth also impacted the quarter's results. On slide 16, looking at the economic indicators on the bottom part of the slide, Global Insight has slightly improved its outlook for housing starts and government spending growth. However, our outlook remains cautious as overall economic growth continues at a slow pace awaiting resolution of the fiscal, economic and trade issues that are confidence and restraining growth. Local forestry markets are expected to be about flat in 2013 as weakness in Europe is being offset by improvement in the United States.
Fiscal 20 13 net sales in Construction and Forestry are now forecast to be up about 3%. Our previous outlook was up about 8%. The decline reflects lower dealer orders as we see emerging caution regarding inventory levels within our dealer group. C and F's full year operating margin is projected to be about 8%. While Construction and Forestry's full year 2013 outlook is slightly stronger than 2012, the improvement is expected to occur in the second half of the year.
In the Q2, we expect lower manufactured volume compared with last year. Higher production costs associated with interim Tier 4 will have an impact in the quarter as well as global growth expenses. Let's move now to our Financial Services operations. Slide 17 shows the Financial Services provision for credit losses as a percent of the total average owned portfolio at 31 January 2013 was 1 basis point, reflecting the excellent quality of our portfolios and recoveries from prior year's write offs. Our 2013 financial forecast now contemplates the loss provision to be about 16 basis points as a percentage of the average owned portfolio.
The 10 year average is about 27 basis points. Moving to slide 18. Worldwide Financial Services net income attributable to Deere and Company was $133,000,000 in the Q1 versus $119,000,000 last year. For the full year, net income attributable to Deere and Company is now forecast to be about $540,000,000 Slide 19 outlines receivables and inventory. For the company as a whole, receivables and inventories ended the quarter up about $1,200,000,000 or approximately 30% of trailing 12 month sales, the same relative to 1 year ago.
The increase year over year is predominantly ag, mainly reflective of higher sales volumes. The C and F increase is mostly related to Canadian consigned and Nortrax inventories. This occurred as dealers rebuilt their inventories prior to the current caution in the market. We expect to end 2013 with receivables and inventory up about 5 $100,000,000 The increase from our prior forecast relates to a stronger large ag market in the U. S.
And Canada, strong markets in South America and better definition to our final Tier 4 engine transition plans. Our guidance for cost of sales as a percent of net sales shown on slide 20 remains at approximately 74% in 2013. Factors affecting cost of sales include price realization, production or manufacturing costs, raw material costs, engine emission product costs, absorption and effects of foreign exchange. For modeling purposes, keep in mind price realization, we are forecasting about 3 points in 2013. Interim Tier 4 product costs that we've talked about the last 2 years lower production than in 2012, reflecting a much lower inventory build than last year, which affects absorption and the impact on cost of sales from new employees.
In keeping with our growth plans, Deere hired an additional 5,000 people in 2012 with over 3,000 of them joining us in the last three quarters of the year. These additions are critical to support our growth both domestically and internationally and will impact cost of sales, R and D and S and G in 2013. I want to quickly run through January retail sales. Unfortunately, the AEM numbers were released too late to incorporate into our slide deck. For utility tractors, industry sales were up 12%.
Deere sales were flat in the month. Industry inventories of utility tractors for the month of December were 48% of the previous 12 month sales. Deere inventories were lower. Industry sales of row crop tractors were up 27% in the month. Deer sales were up double digits, but less than the industry.
Industry row crop inventories for December were 28% of the previous 12 month sale. Deer inventories were lower than the industry. Moving to 4 wheel drive tractors, industry sales were up 89%, while Deere sales were up triple digits. December industry inventories were 21% of previous 12 month sales. Deer inventories were slightly higher.
For combines, industry sales in the month were up 17%. Deere sales were up more than the industry. Industry inventories for December were 11% of the previous 12 month sales. Deere inventories were slightly lower. Deere dealer inventories at 31 January 2013 for row crop tractors were 19% of previous 12 month sales compared to 12% in 2012.
Comparable numbers for combines are 11% at 31 January 2013 versus 5% in 2012. The remaining industry sales for ag and turf, the EU27 and CNF can still be found in the appendix of our slide deck. Now back to the slides. Looking at R and D expense on slide 21. R and D was up 14% in the first quarter compared with the same period last year, consistent with our guidance that the increase in R and D spending for expense to be up about 3% for the full year.
Moving now to slide 22. SA and G expense for the equipment operations was up about 10% in the Q1. Very much like R and D, the quarter over quarter increases for SA and G increase will occur in the 1st two quarters. SA and G expense is forecast to be up about 7% in 2013, no change from our previous guidance. The equipment operations tax rate was about 30% in the Q1 with the rate affected by discrete items.
While it is not our practice to provide specifics on discrete items, we would note the extension of the R and D tax credit for 2013 and it's being retroactive to 2012. For full year 2013, the effective tax rate is forecast to be in the range of 34% to 36%, representing no change from our previous forecast. On slide 24, you see our equipment operations history of strong cash flow. We continue to forecast cash flow from equipment operations to be about $3,400,000,000 in 2013. On slide 25, we outline our 2013 outlook for the 2nd quarter and full year.
Our net sales forecast for the Q2 is up about 4% compared with 2012. This includes about 2 points of price realization with unfavorable currency translation of about 1 point. A couple other items to keep in mind as you model the 2nd quarter. As we've stated previously, R and D and SA and G expense are front end loaded, thus affecting our year over year second quarter results. And in last year's Q2, results were favorably impacted by a reduction in pension and OPEB expense of approximately $65,000,000 The full year forecast now calls for net sales to be up about 6% compared with 2012.
Price realization is expected to be positive by about 3 points. And we have increased our full year 2013 net income forecast to about 3,300,000,000 dollars In closing, John Deere has entered 2013 on a strong pace. Our key markets remain in good shape for the most part and we're looking for another solid year. True, our near term outlook is tempered by uncertainties over fiscal, economic and trade issues. This is hurting business confidence and restraining growth.
But we continue to invest in the future as the longer term picture continues to be extremely bright. Our plans for helping meet the world's growing need for food, shelter and infrastructure are well on track and moving ahead. All in all, we remain highly confident about the company's future prospects and our ability to deliver value to customers and investors in the years to come. Tony?
Thank you, Susan. Now we're ready to begin the Q and A portion of the call. The operator will instruct you on the polling procedure. But as a reminder, in consideration of others, please limit yourself to one question and one related follow-up. If you have additional questions, we ask you to rejoin the queue.
Operator?
Our first question comes from Andy Kaplowitz.
Good morning, guys. It's Barclays. Nice quarter.
Andy. Thank you.
If we could talk about construction first. Can you talk a little bit more about your comments around emerging caution from the dealers? To me, it sounds a bit counterintuitive, housing starts have been going the right way. Is this the rental market slowing down for you? And you didn't mention energy and material handling as a strength which you have in the past?
Yes. We would actually in terms of strength, where we're seeing strength, we would continue to say the 3 key areas. Rental continues to be stronger, energy related as well as material handling. That really hasn't changed. I think where the outlook has changed is we're seeing some caution around some of the uncertainties around fiscal policies and it's particularly impacting our construction and forestry business and dealers in particular, I think also are cautious and as a result are beginning to pull down their inventory somewhat.
Okay. I'll let other people ask you about that. Tony, if I could ask you about your guidance, you maintained your guidance of 74% cost of sales. You did 74% in the quarter. We were modeling something worse.
It seemed like you executed quite well in the context of all those extra employees that came in, in the beginning of the year or at the end of last year. So why wouldn't margins go up toward the end the year that cost of sales number go down? Your production of combines should be going up at least modestly and you would better absorb those employees, especially considering price cost should be relatively good this year?
Right. Actually, you touched on one of the reasons with combining shipments. Keep in mind that last year, we actually had the opposite phenomena in the sense that we were producing and shipping a higher than normal percentage of combines in the back half of the year. And in 2013, we'll be moving to what would be a more typical shipping pattern on those combines. So we're seeing a lot more being shipped in this first half, especially in the Q1.
We saw more combine shift versus last year. In fact, last year it was like maybe around 10% of the combines that were of the annual shipment of combines went out in the Q1 and you're up closer to 15% to 20% in the Q1 of this year. So it's a big shift.
Okay. Thanks, Tony.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Jamie Cook. And please state your company name.
Hi, good morning, Credit Suisse. And sorry, just a follow-up to Andy's question on the C and F side. I guess, two questions. 1, I mean, Tony, you guys really aren't I mean, when you look at your forecast on housing, it's up a little. Non res is down a little.
So your forecast your economic forecast really hasn't changed that much. So I guess my question is, is this more gear specific and that you had too much inventory in the channel and you're making some adjustments that other people made before? And if so and just what's the level of dealer inventory out there that I guess needs to get cut? And my second question is, I'm pretty sure you said margins are still 8% in C and F on a lower sales forecast. And I just want you to confirm that.
And then how are you able to achieve the same margins on a lower sales increase? Thanks.
Sorry, Tony, I'll debate who's going
to answer. So Jamie, we're really tweaking inventories on the construction side. If you look at the ending guidance, it's down $100 and some $1,000,000 from our previous outlook. So it's really tweaking. But again, in the field, we are seeing a little slower rate in terms of inventory growth and that's just what you're seeing in terms of inventory ordering.
So you're seeing that reflected in a little bit of caution in our outlook especially for the Q2. But
But I guess Marie, do you feel like you guys were a little late on the inventory reduction relative
to some other guys? Or are you just
more is it market or is it dear? I guess I'm still not
I think you're talking I think if you're comparing us to another company, we're talking $100,000,000 $200,000,000 not dramatic changes relative to others. So I think you're talking more tweaking. But nonetheless that shows up in our sales guidance. Okay.
On the C and F inventories, we are essentially up C and F inventories plus receivables about $200,000,000 for Q1.
Okay.
Primarily because of the we have a stronger market in Canada for construction and we sell we have consigned inventory in Canada, okay? That's what went up. Now we are taking it down with the reduction in the C and F forecast. We are taking it down and that's reflected in as Murray said, the inventory plus receivables going down almost nothing by the end of the year. Okay.
Thank you very much. Remind us to your margin question.
Yes, I think you said margins are the same and I think your sales forecast is a little lower. I mean maybe I'm
That's true. You did keep the C and F margins the same and I think I mean
is your Tier 4 cost assumptions lower? Is there anything else driving that or no? I mean because I'm assuming mix isn't going to help you. Your sales forecast is lower. I just
maybe I'm splitting hairs, but There's no big story there other than I think a good attention to the level of expenses.
Okay, great. Thank you. I'll get back in queue.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Stephen Volkmann. And please state your company
name. Hi, good morning. It's Jefferies.
Good morning.
Hi,
guys. I was hoping we could just have a bit of an update on sort of where the order book stand and for any programs you might want to highlight? And then I'm curious about what you're seeing in the used markets as well?
Okay. I assume you're referring on the order books in U. S. And Canada on ag? Yes, please.
Okay. Yes. Basically, they continue to be very, very strong. I'm looking for the exact data here.
And while Tony is looking and that's really reflected in the improved guidance for North American Ag, where you see us taking that up flat to up 5% for the industry where we had been flat before. And that is driven almost exclusively by large ag. Tony? Right.
Yes. And so specifically on the early order programs and these are for the order programs that were active during the quarter. So, and it never excluding cotton and combines and sprayers ended during our 4th quarter. So outside of that, we're still up double digits year over year on the early order program. So that's things like self propelled windrowers, forage harvesters as well as planting equipment for those.
Our combine early order program ended in January, mid January and was for the U. S. And then 1st February in Canada, but very, very strong and we have virtually all of our production covered with the early order program. On tractors, again, our order window is open out about 7 months. And track tractors in particular are very strong both 89 are.
Track tractors are effectively sold out during that order or for that order window. And in both cases, keep in mind that's with additional capacity for U. S. Production. On the 8AR wheel tractors, the effective availability is late June, again, on additional capacity over 2012.
And on the 9R wheels, there's availability in April of this year, which is similar to where we were last year. So across the board, very comparable to where we were last year, but on higher
used equipment, what I can comment Stephen is the combines is one that everybody thinks of typically. I'll tell you the price levels are holding very well. The inventories and turns are in decent shape as well. Now when it comes to tractors and row crops, we're in very good shape in all those three parameters. In 4 wheel drives, given the retail sales we have had, we are very comfortable with the inventory levels and the turns we have in 4 wheel drives.
Pricing is holding very well as well.
That's great. And just quickly the increased capacity that you spoke of Tony, can I think of that as kind of 15% -ish?
It's in the 15% to 20% range on trackers. Super. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Ann Duignan. And please state your company name.
Hi, good morning. JPMorgan.
Good morning, Ann.
Good morning. Can we talk about eigenturf a little bit? I was surprised you kind of lost over the unfavorable impact on margins this quarter. Can we get a little bit more detail particularly on the warranty costs? Is that just accruals?
Is it actual costs? Where are they coming from? And then production costs and R and D also.
Let me start with warranty. Anne, as you know, Deere has extremely high product quality. And in fact, over the last decade, we've taken our warranty rate actually down by about a third. So we are doing very good in that. You are well aware as I am sure everyone is that we have had because of IT4 a record number of product introductions in a compressed time.
And as good as our products are occasionally, we have to make a few corrections. And so this really just relates to the fact that you've had this huge number of product introductions. And when you increase some when you launch something new, you occasionally have to make a few fixes. So no big story there.
Okay. So are we done with those warranty costs now? Or are they a headwind for the remainder of the year?
We would expect that you might see a
little bit of an increase in the run rate as you move forward again just reflecting the launch of products. In any other quarter, it wouldn't have even shown as a factor to explain the quarter's results. It's just that we have relatively low sales volumes in the Q1. So it's a little more apparent.
That's a fair point. And just a little bit more philosophically kind of around the warranty costs or around Tier 4 interim. You're the only company that really calls out the transition to Tier 4 engines quarter after quarter as being a headwind. Is there any case to be made that that's because you're doing EGR first and then going to SCR whereas most of the rest of the industry both construction and agriculture went primarily to SCR? Or how should we as investors think about Deere's struggle with this transition relative to its peers?
Excuse me, not a struggle actually a very, very good execution. But we just want to help you understand that there are costs associated with this product cost in addition to the R and D and the capital expense associated with it. And that's helpful in understanding our margin. We've done a very good job on cost recovery. And we have added a significant amount of value to our customers because as we've discussed in the past, the product introductions are around IT Force.
So in addition to getting the emissions upgrades, they're getting a tremendous amount of features and values.
So let me reiterate something here Ann. In terms of investments for emissions, we are making those and I think we are talking about those. Our competitors have cost as well, okay? So it's not cost that only Deere is seeing others are seeing it as well. And like Marie said, our implementation has gone very well and we're looking forward to keeping that momentum for the FT-four transitions as well coming up in 2014 and 2015.
And I would also reiterate compared to some of our competitors, if you look at our overall margins, I think we're doing fairly well.
Well, that's a fair point. I'll leave it there and get back in line. Thanks guys.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Eric Crawford. And please state your company name.
Hi, good morning. UBS. Good morning. Wanted to touch on the South American outlook. Clearly seeing some strength in Brazil, but I'm curious how the competitive dynamics playing out.
Are you seeing room to take up pricing more than you originally planned? And do you expect your share in combines perhaps to recover after it took a dip?
Yes. Certainly, as we look at our pricing, again, in Brazil, we continue to have positive price realization as you're aware, we've introduced a number of new products into that market and they've been very, very successful. We've talked for a number of years about the strength of our distribution. And I think as you see these market share shifts, that just further demonstrates what we've been saying regarding the strength of that distribution. So again, we're very positive about that regarding combine.
Certainly, we would hope to see the recovery and keep in mind, it's a pretty small drop in year on combine market share, but we would certainly expect to continue to recover from that and perhaps even extend our share further.
That's fair. And if I could just ask a follow-up on CIS. You didn't cite credit being a factor. So is it safe to assume that's not having an impact? Or is that is it just that there's been no change there?
And in light of the higher import duties, has your longer term view on that market changed at all?
Yes. Certainly with credit, I would not say I wouldn't imply that by lack of discussing that it isn't an issue, because certainly there is some tightening of credit in CIS countries. We talked about it last quarter. Really, it's just the more significant change would be around the import duties, specifically on combines that were added. Keep in mind that's really begins in mid February and runs through June currently.
July. The 5 July, I'm sorry. And then there will be a determination of whether that gets extended or not. So it's probably premature to talk about what kind of long term impacts that may have.
Great. Thanks very much.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Eli Lusgaarden. Please state your company name.
Wengoa Securities. Good morning, everyone.
Good morning. Good morning.
Can we just
talk a little bit more on Construction Equipment and a little more color? I think you indicated 2nd quarter production is going to probably trail last year numbers. And I guess Brazil has some tariffs on imports of construction equipment. Is part of the reduction in forecast due to some of the tariffs there in Brazil also? Or and can you talk about the 2nd quarter production versus last year?
And do we get to a 3% gain?
I'm sorry,
Eli, I didn't cut you off. Go ahead.
I said, and most of the drop introduction first half of all the 3% gain in CNF coming in the second half of the year?
So the drop in the second quarter is really exclusively related to North American construction and then there's also some forestry activity. In Brazil, indeed, we're actually building our presence. So although there are tariffs, as you know, we are prior to the launch of production in our factories, which will really be a 2014 and 2015 event. So it's really not it has nothing to do with Brazil. And it's a tweaking in North America as we talked about earlier.
And sort of as a follow-up, we have you mentioned nothing about material costs this year, is that actually a tailwind versus last year? And we are approaching final Tier 4 next year in 2014 and 2015. Are we looking at some can you give us some insight on how it's going to affect Deere? But I guess some of the larger equipment in ag, particularly we'll probably get have to introduce final Tier 4 next year. And so how that costs incremental costs will be as we get closer to that
date. Sure. And I want to make sure that I'm separating the 2, because we talked about in the past material cost and then we've talked about interim Tier 4 material cost. And as we mentioned in the Q1, material cost, excluding IT4, is not a material impact either positively or negative in terms of driving any change in that cost of sales percentage. On interim Tier 4, certainly that is an impact.
Emission costs, as you look at unfavorable factors impacting our cost of sales ratios, interim Tier 4 product costs would be the largest impact in this year. As you mentioned, we'll move into final Tier 4 beginning in 2014. And so you'll start to see in addition to you have your interim Tier 4 costs will pretty much be completed, but you'll start seeing final Tier 4. And that should be fairly similar to what we saw in terms of the ramp up, not necessarily the total cost, to what we saw with interim Tier 4 and that large ag, over 175 horsepower equipment is the effective date of that regulation is January 1. So you'll start seeing large ag go and then below 175 horsepower in 2015.
So will we see those costs beginning in the second half of this year, this fiscal year beginning to ramp up as we get closer to it?
You might in the Q4, you might see a little bit of impact more as you get started with some demonstration models and things like that for 2014 fiscal 2014 for us. You're also we talked about the inventories and receivables being a little higher on the ag side than what our original guidance has been. We'll continue to refine our transition plans as we move through the year. So you can see some activity there. In terms of cost up, Eli, the bigger cost up was really to go from to go from Tier 3 to IT4.
Going to final Tier 4 while still a cost up is not quite as significant. I do not have a precise estimate of the number, but if you said on a 10 point scale going from it if you're going from Tier 3 to IT4 was a 10, then maybe you're looking at 5, 6, 7 to go from IT4 to final Tier 4. But we're still as you might imagine working on that.
Okay. Thank you very much.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you. Your next question comes from Rob Wertheimer. And please state your company name.
Hi. It's Vertical Research Partners. Good morning, everybody.
Good morning. So my first question is,
did I understand right on the Russia tariff issue that's only on the combine side? And did you build into your forecast that on tractors as well? Is that something you expect?
Yes. At this point that import duty is only on combines and we're not aware of any change at this point with Tractor. So the outlook really is impacting combines alone. And keep in mind that impact, as Susan pointed out, it's not just Russia, but that affects Russia and Kazakhstan as well as Belarus.
Okay. Thanks. And then second just sort of a big picture question. Obviously, the environment is quite strong in Brazil. I'm curious about what kind of customers are buying The biggest sort of largest corporate farms there tend to buy stuff and use it I think until it runs all the way down.
I don't know whether they're accelerating. I don't know whether there's the development of used market in Brazil as they maybe accelerate or whether it's mid tier farmers who are buying more or smaller. I'm just wondering if you can give just sort of a bit of color around how Brazil is evolving?
Sure. And certainly there continues to be and it kind of depends on what industry you're referring to in terms of typical usage. For example, sugar industry tends to use both tractors and harvesters very heavily on an annual basis. And to your point, with their holding patterns, they tend to be pretty much ready for scrap by the time they're ready to trade in. Grain industry is a little bit different and there is probably best characterized maybe a bit of a developing used equipment market there.
Typically, they're trading every 5 years or so, but they're putting a typical grain farmer is putting fewer hours on than what you would see in the sugar industry. So our dealers do take trades there. In some cases, similar to the U. S, they'll have an in house used equipment department to process those through. Some of them actually out source it and have others take care of selling that used equipment.
But again, I would characterize it more as a developing issue or market versus what you would have in the U. S.
And are you seeing strength amongst the very biggest, the big corporate ones and large landholders and smaller as well? Or is there anything that you can call out about your customer? Thanks.
So let me this is Raj. Let me broadly say that sometime back there was this mass elementos program in Brazil that provided additional subsidies for smaller farmers. And we've seen that that's peaked off. And since then the natural economics has determined essentially that the larger farmers are growing, okay? And if you look at our own past experiences, these are very large farmers.
In 2011, we had 2011, 2012 approximately 60 of these farmers would contribute almost $500,000,000 worth of our revenues in that market. Have said that in the past. And if you look at the Q1, we have a slightly higher proportion of large ag sales in Brazil than in the Q1 of last year. So it is increasing especially for us towards large ag and our proportion of large customers is increasing.
That's great. Thank you.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Andy Casey. And please state your company name.
Wells Fargo Securities. Good morning, everyone. Good morning. First, just a clarification on the revenue forecast change. Does that include any modified currency assumption?
Leave it. So it's the same one percent. Yes.
Okay. So all
No, it did not. No.
Okay. So all volume basically. Correct. And then second within ag and turf, are you redirecting any combine shipments to other regions due to this increased import duty issue? And then is that removing some upside potential to margin driven by the richer mix implied in the U.
S. And Canada outlook
changes? No. I think we've made there may have been some tweaking in terms of the timing of market you're not looking at a huge change on the combines.
Okay. Thanks. I'll follow-up later on.
Great. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Joel Tiss. And please state your company name.
Hi, Bank of Montreal. How are you doing guys? Great. How are you? All right.
So just two things. One is, can you tell us if the profitability of the European Ag business was up or down in
the quarter?
Yes. Unfortunately, we can't speak to profit margins in specific regions. So Yes. It wasn't well, whatever. All right.
And why the big range on the tax rate, the 200 basis points? That's typical. Yes, that's we typically have. I mean, in fact, that's been consistent with our range that we started the year with and throughout the year last year as well. All right.
And as I guess as long as Raj is here, can you talk a little bit about the long term attraction of the forestry equipment business? It seems to be just bouncing around for the last 10 years and not really going
anywhere. So the Forestry business is a very important portion of our business. If you know our long term strategy, 2018 aspiration, we've articulated that we have the growth businesses, which are ag and construction and we have complementary businesses turf or ag and forestry or construction. So we think of it as an important contributor going forward in terms of being complementary to the Construction Equipment business. In terms of longer term growth, we are not expecting as much from as from Forestry as from construction, okay?
The tailwinds in construction is very critical for us. Tailwinds in Forestry, we think are very modest. So we're looking to get good SPA and not great top line from forestry going forward.
All right. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.
Thank you. Our question comes from Jerry Revich. And please state your company name.
Hi, good morning. It's Goldman Sachs. Tony, in Eastern Europe with your facilities or manufacturing footprint there, it sounds like you're better positioned than most for a potential change in the tariff regime. Can you just talk about what kind of local content requirements would be needed for combines to be considered local? And over what time period would you be able to configure your facilities there to do some assembly work in the region?
Yes. Certainly not with unfortunately not with any specific. We're currently working with the Russian government specifically in terms of what those definitions are and trying to ensure that we can move that direction if feasible and qualify as
just did reach an agreement
from the manufacturer
standpoint? It depends on how quickly you can reach an agreement and what that requirement would be. So that would be very premature to speculate on that.
Okay. And from a pricing standpoint, maybe the answer is mix are rounding, but wondering if you can comment your pricing this quarter was 100 basis points lower than your guidance and you're looking for two points of pricing in the fiscal Q2 accelerating back to 3% in the back half of the year. And I'm wondering if you could just step us through what's driving the variance versus your expectations in the Q1 and the mix improvement in the back half versus 2Q?
Right. I thought I believe we talked about 3 points of price realization. For the full of price realization for the full year. For the full year.
It was 4 for the quarter.
It was 4 for the quarter.
It was 4 for the quarter. It was
4 for the quarter. There's really not a story there as you can see that we're unprepared to answer it. So nothing came up.
And part of that Jerry is a lot of rounding, okay? Rounding you need to be careful about how we do this, right? So most of the story you'll find there is actually in rounding.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you, Gerry.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Ashish Gupta. And please state your company name.
Hi. Good morning, CLSA.
Good morning. Just maybe at
the risk of asking you to rehash some things you already described, but it seems like guidance is implying something like 11% incremental margins for the equipment business for the second through 4th quarters year over year. And I realize you mentioned that combine production is more evenly balanced this year versus last year. But I was just wondering if there's anything else in there that would sort of point to the deceleration incremental profitability?
Okay. So now Ashish, we provide guidance on the top line as you know in 1% increments. So it could be so there is a range that you need to be careful about in terms of rounding. It's 0.2 to 1.8, okay? And again, on the other hand, we provide guidance on net income $100,000,000 increments.
So you got to be thinking about the range there as well could be anywhere between $20,000,000 to $180,000,000 And if you look at our operating margins for Ag and C and F, we have said it's 15%, 8%. Those have not changed. And we are also looking at in terms effective tax rate in 34% to 36%. Now Q1 was 30%, because of a discrete item. Overall, we're saying it's going to be 34% to 36%.
And then given the uncertain economic environment around the world, now you will expect some caution from us appropriately so especially in our second half outlook. So factoring these, I think you should be able to add up the numbers that you provided.
That's helpful, Raj. Thanks very much.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Adam Fleck. And please state your company name.
Good morning. I wanted to turn back maybe to the Western European market. As that market continues to weaken, are you seeing any competitive issues or pricing pressure you call out?
No. The biggest change that we are seeing is really coming out of the U. K, which relates to the weather that we've talked already about. But it's a large one of the key markets in that part of the world and it is very, very weak. We're actually seeing some stabilization in the South, which is gratifying although stabilizing at very low levels.
They actually had some strength in markets like France and even some growth in Germany. So it's really the U. K. It's a unique phenomena related to the weather and crop resulting crop yields of last year and then concern emerging over what's happened winter.
But you're not seeing any increased attempts at marketing efforts or price cuts or anything like that in that particular weak market?
Nothing out of the ordinary.
Okay, great. That's helpful. Thanks. And then just one more for me quickly. Your share repurchase activity dropped pretty sharply in the quarter.
Is that just because of a more cautious economic outlook that you described? Or is there anything else there?
Yes, absolutely. I think you may recall that we ended the year with about $6,000,000,000 of cash and we said we had pulled forward some funding because we were concerned about the outlook for the risks on fiscal cliff etcetera. And consistent with that, we moderated our share repurchases. And I do want to emphasize that share repurchase is a residual use of cash. This tends to be a high use of cash time for us the first half of the year as well.
So no story. Yes.
Okay. This is Raj. Let me reiterate that our cash use priorities are the same. They haven't changed, okay?
Okay. Thank you. Operator, I think we have time for one more call.
Thank you. Our final question comes from Ross Gilardi. And please state your company name.
Yes. Hi. Bank of America, just on that cash flow prioritization. I mean, clearly, you've had a big quarter in ag. What signals are you looking for to raise the dividend more substantially?
Well, we do not ever comment on dividend policy actions. You know that we convey that over a long time, long time we desire to have a be known as a company that consistently and moderately increase dividends and that we have a targeted payout on average over a long period of time of 25% to 35%. If you look at the monies that we have returned to shareholders really since we began our share repurchase program in 2,004, you're looking at about 60% and some of that's been in the form of dividends, some of it's been in the form of share repurchase.
Okay. Thanks. And then just on Section 179, do you think that had a big And just could you clarify, is this a 1 year extension or has it been extended indefinitely?
It extends through 2013. And actually at the margin, we would view it very much so as additive because it is most significant in helping facilitate movement of used goods. And that's obviously important in a mature market. And so we that was a favorable development for us. Not
Yes. Keep I'm sorry. Keep in mind on new equipment by the time in terms of for a farmer customer, by the time they realize they want to extend some pack shelter or take advantage of that by quite often for us, our order book especially on large ag are extended beyond January 1 or December 31. And so they wouldn't be able to order and receive that equipment ahead of that December 31 cut off to take a lot of advantage on new equipment.
And remember the recent Section 179 announcements came 1st week of January. So the previous November December, this was after that November December when the announcement came in. So as Marie said, we are expecting an impact on the used equipment movement because of it through this year, okay, not in 2012.
And then just can I just ask one last question on the China subsidies?
Actually we really we'll have
to cover that and follow-up.
Okay. Thanks very much.
Okay. Thank you very much. And in summary, just wanted to reiterate, obviously, while our near term outlook is tempered by uncertainties over fiscal, economic and trade issues, we have entered 2013 on a very strong pace and looking forward to another solid year. And with that, we thank you for your participation in the call. And as always, we'll be available the rest of the day to answer any additional questions you may have.
Operator?
Thank you. And this does conclude today's conference. We do thank you for your participation and you may now disconnect your line.