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Earnings Call: Q4 2016

May 26, 2016

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Deckers Brands fourth quarter and fiscal 2016 year-end conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will be provided at that time for you to queue up for questions. If anyone has any difficulties during the conference call, please press star 0 for operator assistance at any time. I'd like to remind everyone that this conference is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the call over to Steven Fasching, Vice President, Strategy and Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Steven Fasching
VP of Strategy and Investor Relations, Deckers Outdoor

Welcome everyone joining us today. On the call today is Angel Martinez, Chief Executive Officer and Chair of the Board of Directors, Dave Powers, President, and Thomas George, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone of the company's safe harbor policy. Please note that certain statements made on this call are forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws, which are subject to considerable risks and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements are intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All statements made on this call today, other than statements of historical fact, are forward-looking statements and include statements regarding our anticipated financial performance, including our projected net sales, margins, expenses, and earnings per share, as well as statements regarding our business transformation plans, product and brand strategies, market opportunities, and restructuring plans.

Forward-looking statements made on this call represent the company's current expectations and are based on currently available information. Forward-looking statements involve numerous risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from results predicted, assumed, or implied by forward-looking statements. The company has explained some of these risks and uncertainties in its SEC filings, including the Risk Factors section of its annual performance on Form 10-K. Except as required by law or the listings of the New York Stock Exchange, the company expressly disclaims any intent or obligation to update any forward-looking statements, whether to conform such statements to actual results, or to changes in its expectations, or as a result of the availability of new information. With that, I'll now turn it over to Angel.

Angel Martinez
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, Deckers Outdoor

Well, thanks, Steve, and thank you to everyone for joining us on today's call. We closed out fiscal 2016 with a solid fourth quarter performance that was highlighted by double-digit top-line and EPS growth on a non-GAAP pro forma basis, a meaningful increase versus a year ago. I'm proud of how our teams persevered following a challenging holiday period to deliver non-GAAP results that exceeded guidance, while also executing the strategic initiatives and restructuring that we believe will allow the company to gain market share and deliver profitable growth over the long term. With that being said, we are aware that the retail industry continues to undergo significant structural change, fueled by technology that is changing consumer behavior and impacting what they buy, when and how they buy it, and how much they pay for it.

To succeed in today's environment, companies not only need authentic brand position and compelling on-trend product, they must also have the infrastructure that supports direct and personalized dialogue with consumers, efficient premium service levels, a customizable, differentiated shopping experience, and the ability to scale internationally. The strategic initiatives we've made over the last five years have put the company in a great position to win on these critical fronts. This has included building a highly advanced global omni-channel platform; enhancing our supply chain, including the addition of a new state-of-the-art distribution center; bringing in experienced professionals to work alongside our talented group of employees around the world; and developing a strong international presence. On top of this, our product engine is stronger than ever, with new innovations fueling excitement and freshness throughout our brand portfolio.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Thanks, Angel. Let me first say that I am honored to be given the opportunity to lead this amazing company. I want to thank the board and Angel for the confidence they have shown and continue to show in me. It has been a privilege to work so closely with Angel these past four years, and I feel very fortunate that I will be able to benefit from his continued involvement in the business as chairman. I'm very optimistic about the long-term potential of our brands, and I'm eager to continue the tremendous progress the team has made building a stronger organization to support the many growth opportunities still ahead of us. With that, let's turn to our recent performance. In fiscal 2016, we made several changes to the organization to drive long-term value and improve our competitiveness.

Steven Fasching
VP of Strategy and Investor Relations, Deckers Outdoor

This included adding new leadership within our brands into our omni-channel division.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Streamlining and restructuring our brands to create operating efficiencies and synergies, improving our retail store footprint, and aligning our organization to improve the consumer experience. We believe these changes have prepared us to navigate the evolving retail landscape and will lead to long-term success and an increase in shareholder value. I'll now review our two lifestyle groups, fashion and performance, and then cover our results by channel. Beginning with fashion lifestyle, as we announced last month, we appointed Andrea O'Donnell to lead this group. Andrea joins us recently from the DFS Group, a multibillion-dollar retailer owned by LVMH, where she served as president of global merchandising. We are excited to have her on board and believe our teams will benefit from her strong international background and experience working with premium brands. The UGG brand performed strongly in the quarter, growing 15% in constant currency to end the year up 5%.

The arrival of cold weather in January helped drive sales of our fall/winter product. As the season transitioned to spring, we experienced strong sales in our casual shoes and sneakers across all channels. The use of our Treadlite technology in these categories is proving to be a differentiator for the brand, and we have already received a favorable response from wholesalers to our spring 2017 offerings. For the quarter, unit sales for UGG increased mid-teens with non-core units up over 20%. This demonstrates once again demand for UGG remains strong and that more than ever, consumers are turning to the brand for its full product assortment. As we look at fiscal 2017, we are excited about the products we are bringing to market. This year, our major focus is on the relaunch of the UGG Classics franchise.

Anchoring this relaunch is the New Classics, which will be supported with robust marketing, showcasing the water and stain-resistant treatment and the comfort and traction delivered by our Treadlite outsole. Our plan for fall 2016 includes more than just the New Classics. We also have our Classic Slim, Luxe, and street styles to round out a more complete Classics franchise. Collectively, these styles give us the most diverse assortment of classics ever. This breadth allows us to target a broader range of consumers with classics through a variety of price points and silhouettes. Based on the success of Slim and Luxe in our DTC channels last fall, we know that these styles expand the wearing occasions of classics and create exciting appeal to both new and existing consumers alike.

Wholesalers and distributors are also excited about the New Classics franchise and have booked Slim styles like the Kristin and the Amie as top 10 styles. Beyond relaunching the Classics franchise, we are also continuing our momentum within women's casual, fashion, and weather categories, along with attacking men's, kids, and lifestyle. In women's last fall, we entered the rain boot category for the first time and had strong demand. For fall 2016, we are building on our success in this category with a much wider and deeper rain collection in both wholesale and in DTC. In men's, we have compelling new products that incorporate Treadlite, as well as a more robust offering of casual boots and shoes like the Neumel that infuse the comfort of our slippers but can be worn outside the home.

In the lifestyle category, our home and loungewear businesses continue to grow, and we are excited about testing an outerwear collection this fall. To help elevate the brand, we recently signed Rosie Huntington-Whiteley as the first-ever UGG global ambassador. Rosie is one of the world's most recognized models and top style icons. She has a deep love for UGG, and we look forward to working with her to leverage her extensive reach to showcase the brand globally. We are also excited about the launch of Koolaburra this fall. With Koolaburra, we now have the ability to attack the sub-$100 sheepskin boot market. This is a market that we helped create but have not competed in with the UGG brand. Koolaburra will start with a small launch into a few major accounts. Our market research indicates that the sub-$100 sheepskin market represents a significant global opportunity.

We are viewing this year as a way to assess the market opportunity, engage consumer reception to the brand. Moving on to our Performance Lifestyle Group. HOKA ONE ONE continues to successfully penetrate the running market, growing 44% in constant currency in the fourth quarter and ending the year with 65% growth. The Clayton, one of the brand's latest, most innovative products yet, showcases the power of the brand in delivering ultra-lightweight, maximum cushion performance running shoes through its speed cushion platform. The Clayton is helping HOKA win with women, a key initiative for the brand. Sales of the women's Clayton have been strong, which is a great sign as we look to further balance the brand by gender.

The authenticity that HOKA has built in such a short time is remarkable, and at this year's Ironman in California and Texas, HOKA was the most worn shoe brand ahead of ASICS, Brooks, and Saucony. As we look to continue to build our strength with athletes, HOKA was recently named the official shoe sponsor of the Ironman US Series. As you can see, we are focused on building the brand's awareness and see excellent short- and long-term opportunities. Teva grew 11% in the fourth quarter in constant currency and 7% for the year. The brand continues to have success appealing to a more modern millennial consumer with its sports sandals and closed-toe footwear. The brand is also expanding its international presence, particularly in Asia-Pacific, with strong growth in Japan and South Korea. This spring, Teva launched a new series of sports sandals called Terra-Float.

This series adds performance elements to our sports sandal category that improve functionality and comfort. Sell-through has been strong, indicating that Teva has a new franchise to get behind in spring 2017. Sanuk sales declined 2% in the fourth quarter and 7% for the year. Fiscal 2016 was a challenging year for the brand. To reinvigorate the brand and improve operational efficiencies, we recently relocated Sanuk to our corporate headquarters in Goleta. The move continues to go smoothly, but it will take time as we transition the team and rebuild in fiscal 2017. Turning now to a review of our channel performance and an update on the initiatives we announced last quarter. Beginning with our direct-to-consumer channel, we are pleased to report that our DTC comp was up 2.6% in the fourth quarter.

The growth was led by strong performance in e-commerce, offset by a decline in our retail stores, particularly concept stores. Once again, the decline in traffic from international tourists impacted performance. Excluding our 5 most tourist-impacted concept stores, the DTC comp was up 6.3%. We are encouraged by a positive DTC comp, especially since ASPs were pressured by the continued promotion of core classics. For the year, DTC sales increased 7.4% in constant currency, and the DTC comp finished down 1%, although notably, it was up 2.7% excluding our 5 tourist-driven locations. In February, we announced efforts to optimize our retail store fleet. To that end, we have identified a total of 24 stores for closure, not including any relocations. In the fourth quarter, we closed 3 of the 24 stores, and the remaining 21 are targeted for closure in fiscal 2017.

The goal of our fleet optimization is to boost overall fleet productivity and reposition the brand with key relocations. Retail remains an important element of our omni-channel strategy, and we have identified 15 new locations globally to open in fiscal 2017, comprised of a mix of concepts and outlets in high visibility, highly trafficked locations that we believe will deliver strong returns and provide the opportunity to further showcase the strength of the UGG brand with our new store design. Now to our global wholesale business. Wholesale and distributor sales increased 14% in constant currency in the fourth quarter and increased 5% for the year.

The fourth quarter increase was driven by an increase in both closeouts and regular priced sales for the UGG brand, expanded distribution with HOKA and Teva, as well as a brand-wide shift in orders from Q1 fiscal 2017 into Q4 fiscal 2016 in advance of our business transformation systems implementation. As part of our increasing strategic focus on this channel, we announced last quarter plans to rationalize our wholesale account base to ensure the UGG brand's premium positioning is being reflected in the marketplace. To this end, we implemented minimum order quantities to improve our product assortment at small independents. To date, we have selectively exited approximately 200 accounts.

The goal of rationalizing our wholesale accounts is to make sure the breadth and presentation of the UGG product line is being properly represented and to adjust our distribution strategy to be in tune with the ongoing changes in consumer shopping patterns. Last quarter, we announced our wholesale product segmentation strategy. We have classified accounts into pinnacle, premium, and core doors across the fashion, lifestyle, sport, and outdoor channels, and will begin to sell specific product appropriate to each of them. Through this process, we have also identified white space for channel-specific product, which will help us open accounts and channels where we are under-penetrated, as well as expand doors with accounts in end markets where we currently have limited presence. While still early, segmentation is creating new distribution opportunities for fall 2016. This brings me to our order book.

Our backlog at March 31st was down 4% compared with the same date a year ago. We are pleased with this result, given the challenging retail environment and the difficulties we experienced from weather this past fall and holiday. As a reminder, our 3/31 backlog only includes orders from wholesalers and distributors for April through December. This backlog figure represents less than a third of our total revenue and does not include our DTC channel, all of the fourth quarter, or any in-season at-once orders. Looking forward, we believe our brands are well-positioned to grow with innovative products in the pipeline, strategic distribution opportunities, and new leadership in place.

As CEO, my immediate priorities are driving excitement by elevating the design of product and fueling innovation and speed to market, driving desire by connecting with consumers digitally through targeted marketing and robust e-commerce capabilities, driving efficiencies by continuing to streamline the organization and improve our operations, and driving growth by optimizing new distribution opportunities globally. I am very excited about the team of talented employees we have around the globe. The new organizational structure, combined with the leadership we have in place, gives me great confidence. I look forward to working with the team to unlock the value of these initiatives. That said, we are approaching fiscal 2017 conservatively. We are viewing it as a transition year for the company, given the reality of the marketplace and the time it will take for our new leadership to make an impact.

More than ever, we remain focused on the opportunities in front of us and are confident in the direction of our brands. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Tom, who will walk us through our financial performance and outlook.

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

Thanks, Dave. Good afternoon, everyone. Today, I will take you through our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2016 results in greater detail and provide an outlook on the first quarter and fiscal 2017. Please note throughout this discussion, where I refer to non-GAAP financial measures, I am referring to measures before taking into account restructuring and other charges incurred in the fourth quarter. Also note our non-GAAP pro forma results are not adjusted for constant currency. A reconciliation between our reported GAAP and the non-GAAP pro forma results can be found in our earnings release that is posted on our website under the Investor Information tab. Now to our results for the fourth quarter. Starting with revenue in constant dollars, revenue increased 12% to $383 million, up from $341 million last year. On a reported basis, revenue was up 11% to $379 million.

In constant dollars by brand, UGG revenue was up 15%, HOKA up 44%, Teva up 11%, and Sanuk down 2% versus last year. Our revenue in the quarter exceeded guidance by nearly $14 million. This upside was driven by an $8 million increase in wholesale and distributor sales due to more units than expected being sold, and a $6 million increase in sales in our DTC channel, driven by better than expected DTC comps. For the full year, in constant dollars, revenue grew 6% to $1.92 billion, up from $1.82 billion last year. As reported, revenue was up 3% to $1.875 billion. The increase in revenue versus last year was driven by a 2.6% increase in wholesale and distributor sales and a 4% increase in DTC sales. Non-GAAP gross margin was 42.3% in the fourth quarter, compared to 44.7% last year.

For the quarter, the change in gross margin versus last year was driven by a higher proportion of closeout sales, the continued promotion of classics as we evolve to the new classic, and FX headwinds. For the year, non-GAAP gross margin was 45.4%, compared to 48.3% a year ago. We had roughly a 200-basis point decrease due to increased promotion in closeouts and a 140-basis point decrease from FX headwinds. These gross margin headwinds were offset by a 50-basis point improvement from lower input costs, primarily sheepskin. Non-GAAP SG&A was 40.8% of sales in the fourth quarter, compared to 44.5% a year ago. For the year, SG&A was 35%, compared to 36% a year ago. For both the quarter and the year, the year-over-year improvement was primarily due to lower incentive-based compensation. For the quarter, non-GAAP earnings per share was $0.11 versus $0.04 a year ago.

This was ahead of our guidance of $0.07 and was driven by higher revenue, partially offset by lower planned gross margin. For the year, non-GAAP earnings per share were $4.50 compared to $4.66 last year. The decline in earnings per share was caused by a greater than normal level of promotion due to unseasonably warm weather that impacted UGG sales, FX headwinds created by the stronger U.S. dollar, and an increase in classics promotion as we evolve to the new classic, partially offset by lower incentive-based compensation expense. During the quarter, the company incurred restructuring charges of $25 million due to retail store closures, office consolidations, and software impairments. We also incurred other charges of $9 million that related to inventory write-downs, asset impairment, and compensation-related expenses. Inventories at the end of Q4 were $300 million, an increase of 26% over the same period last year.

This was in line with our expectations. As a reminder, our inventories are elevated relative to a year ago due to lower sales recorded in the third quarter. The majority of this elevated inventory consists of UGG weather slippers and casual boots that are being carried over into the fall 2016 line. We have reduced future buys of this product and still expect to manage our inventory down to more appropriate levels by the end of our second quarter of fiscal 2017. During the quarter, the company repurchased 441,000 shares of common stock for a total of $25 million. For the full fiscal year, the company repurchased 1.42 million shares for a total of $94.2 million. As of March 31, 2016, the company had $77.9 million authorized repurchase funds remaining under its $200 million stock repurchase program announced in January 2015.

As Dave mentioned, total company backlog at March 31 was down 4% compared to the same period last year. Directionally, as a percentage, the UGG backlog was down slightly more than the total company. While not surprising, given our efforts to rationalize our wholesale account base and exit accounts. Additionally, as many in the industry have pointed out, wholesalers are being more cautious with their order books and are looking to place more at-once business. Moving to our outlook for fiscal 2017. Given the seasonality of our business, the changes that are taking place in the industry, and the impact that weather has historically had on our sales, we believe it is prudent to move to a range for our first quarter and full-year forecast. For full fiscal year 2017, we expect revenue to be in the range of flat to down 3% compared to 2016 levels.

Included in our flat sales assumption is modest improvement in the weather conditions relative to those experienced in the third quarter ending calendar December 2015, flat global wholesale and distributors with reorders and cancellations netted out flat direct-to-consumer comps, and improvement in the promotional environment with fewer units sold. Included in our 3% decline assumption is similar weather conditions to calendar 2015, a mid-single-digit decline in global wholesale and distributor sales due to net cancellations and lower unit sales, a low single-digit decline in DTC comps, and a similar promotional environment to last year. In both scenarios, we expect six net store closures and expect to end fiscal 2017 with 147 stores. Note, the majority of the store closures will occur after the new store openings.

By brand, we expect UGG revenue to be in the range of flat to down 3%, HOKA to grow approximately 20%-30%, Teva down low single digits, Sanuk down mid-single digits, and Koolaburra to be approximately $10 million-$15 million. With respect to gross margins, we expect full-year gross margins to be in the range of 47%-47.5%. This represents an improvement of roughly 200 basis points over last year's pro forma gross margin. This is being driven by a 100 basis point improvement from lower sheepskin prices negotiated for this year, 50 basis point improvement from supply chain efficiencies, and potentially up to 80 basis point improvement from a less promotional environment, slightly offset by 30 basis points of FX headwinds. SG&A as a percentage of sales is projected to be approximately 37% due to no revenue growth and increased compensation expense.

While this results in deleverage, in today's challenging environment, we continue to review our operating structure and are committed to driving efficiencies in the organization. For the full year, earnings per share is expected to be in the range of $4.05-$4.40 on a share count of 32.5 million. This excludes any pre-tax charges that may occur from any further restructuring charges, which we anticipate could be up to $15 million in fiscal 2017. Capital expenditures for the fiscal year are expected to be $60 million. Approximately $27 million from new DTC infrastructure, $13 million in facilities, $10 million is for maintenance CapEx, and $10 million in IT-related CapEx. For the first quarter on a reported basis, we expect revenue to be down 20%-25% compared with the same period a year ago.

While these percentages are large, Q1 is our smallest revenue quarter, and the decline in revenue is a result of a shift in orders between quarters and a softer retail environment. We had orders shift between Q1 fiscal 2017 into Q4 fiscal 2016 in advance of our business transformation implementation, and we expect a shift in orders from Q1 into Q2 fiscal 2017 due to the timing of new product launches. As a result, we expect diluted loss per share of approximately $2.10-$2.20 compared to a diluted loss per share of $1.43 last year. As a reminder, a significant amount of our operating expenses are fixed and spread evenly on an absolute basis throughout each quarter. I'll now turn it back over to Angel for his closing comments.

Angel Martinez
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, Deckers Outdoor

Thanks, Tom. Well, during the past 11 years, I've had the good fortune of working with an incredible group of people build a very special company. It has been a privilege to serve as Chief Executive Officer, and I want to thank everyone who has supported me along the way, starting with the entire Deckers family and board of directors, as well as our world-class retail partners and suppliers, and finally, our analysts and our shareholders. I appreciate the interest you've shown in the company, although I can't say I'm going to miss addressing you on a quarterly basis. As Chairman and as a shareholder in the company, I do look forward to assisting Dave and the executive management team in building on the strong market position and solid financial base that we've established. Operator, we're now ready to take questions.

Operator

At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. In the interest of time, please limit to one question and one follow-up question. Our first question comes from Jonathan Komp from Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead.

Jonathan Komp
Senior Research Analyst, Robert W. Baird

Yeah. Hi. Thank you. If I could maybe just first clarify the wholesale shipment timing factor. It sounds like part of it was earlier shipments, and then part of it is later shipments into the second quarter. In terms of timing, how much was the piece of the shift into the fourth quarter of 2016?

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

Jonathan, this is Tom. It was roughly $10 million that shifted from the first quarter into the fourth quarter. That was purposeful. We really wanted to make sure we got those shipments out and to the customer so they could turn at retail because we were getting ready to go live

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

With our business transformation effort.

Jonathan Komp
Senior Research Analyst, Robert W. Baird

Great. Thank you for that. Dave, maybe a bigger picture question. I know you talked a little bit about the segmentation opportunity for the UGG brand, and it sounds like maybe some of that opportunity is still being developed, at least in terms of how you see it playing out. Are there any specific channels or different areas of the wholesale market that you see particularly as being under-penetrated? How should we think about what type of opportunity that segmentation work might bring?

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah, happy to speak to that. It's in the early days of development. Something that Stefano and I, and the UGG team have been very focused on over the last four to five months is strategically mapping out the right marketplace strategy for North America. Inclusive of that is identifying white space opportunities. If you think about, for example, the outdoor channel, the sports lifestyle channel, we are very strong within the fashion and department store channel. We believe there is an opportunity for the brand to extend its reach to new consumers in the outdoor and sports channel. We're having initial discussions with those key players, but it takes a while to develop the product and the marketing approach to be successful in that channel.

We're going to be doing some testing this fall and holiday in some of those key accounts, and then it's really a long-term strategy that you'll see come to fruition probably more of fall 2017.

Jonathan Komp
Senior Research Analyst, Robert W. Baird

Okay. Thank you.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yep.

Operator

Our next question comes from Taposh Bari from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Taposh Bari
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, good afternoon, everybody. First, Angel, congrats on everything that you've done at Deckers and good luck in your future endeavors.

Angel Martinez
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, Deckers Outdoor

Thank you.

Taposh Bari
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

I guess a high-level question first in terms of the UGG brand's position, particularly within the wholesale channel in the U.S. At times of controversy, there's always a lot of moving parts, but the backlog commentary sounds pretty encouraging from my perspective. I'd love to get your opinion on how your key wholesale partners, what level of commitment they have from your perspective to the UGG brand after a challenging season, and how they're kind of interpreting some of the changes that you're making going forward.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah. We've obviously been working very closely with our key partners. We're fortunate that we have very strong relationships with our key partners that have been built over the year. Going through the challenges in Q3, coming out of that and planning for this coming fall and holiday, Stefano and the team have been very close with those key accounts in managing the future going forward. They have certainly challenges that they're facing with regards to consumer traffic patterns, and just in an overall marketplace malaise. They understand the importance of UGG to their success. We've been working very closely with them to make sure that we have the right assortment going forward. It's a broader assortment based off the new initiatives that we put into the Classics franchise.

They're confident still in the UGG brand, and we're still a key player for them, but the challenges that they're seeing at a macro level are making things a little bit more challenging. As I'm sure you can understand across the board, department store open-to-buy are shrinking. They're looking at more of an at-once business versus their pre-book business, which is why I think our pre-book at down 4% is actually a healthy number compared to what the environment looks like right now. Continuing to work with them closely. Our goal overall is to provide the consumers in the marketplace the best product and the best brand experience we can.

As part of that objective, we are taking a look at our marketplace strategy with the goal of elevating our presentation in key accounts, elevating that experience, cleaning up some of the distribution that quite frankly, we think is not a positive representation of the brand. As you heard on the call, we're going to be closing roughly 200 doors. That's strategic. The approach there is to make sure that we continue to elevate the positioning of the UGG brand, look for new distribution opportunities, make sure that the key players are supported the way that we need them to be, and they're representing the brand the right way. Also looking at new opportunities in different channels, as I mentioned as well. It's a long-term strategy. You're going to see the initial stages of that take place this fall.

Continuing to focus on the premium positioning of the UGG brand. We don't want to do anything to damage that integrity, every decision we make with regards to distribution going forward is going to be through that lens.

Taposh Bari
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thanks for that. That's helpful, Dave. Just a quick follow-up on the point of diversification. I know that you've been diversifying away from the classics part of the UGG business. Can you give us a snapshot for what the composition of the UGG brand looks like, or looked like in fiscal 2016, and what you expect it to look like in fiscal 2017? Thanks.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah. That's a very important discussion something that we've been working on for quite some time, as you know. I've been nervous over the last few years about the reliance on the core classic, we've made quite a few changes to broaden the breadth of the assortment. I'm actually pleased with how things are looking for fall 2017. The core classic is looking that it'll be roughly 20% of the overall business. As you know, that's down from 50%-60% three to five years ago. The non-core sheepskin, so things like the Slim, the Luxe, and the new Street collection will be about 25%. Women's casual and fashion is about 20%, and then slippers make up the rest. A much more balanced portfolio.

It's a balance across styles, which also means it's balanced across consumer types and balanced across price and segmentation in the marketplace, which I believe is the right platform for us going forward. It's less reliant on one key style to do all the business for us. It also provides us with new platforms that we can grow off of over time, and to iterate off those styles within the classics franchise, and then continue to get after our casual boot business as well.

Taposh Bari
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Great. I just want to confirm, Dave, when you say core classics, you're referring to all colors, and kind of finishes within that traditional silhouette. Is that correct?

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah. Core is the Classic short, tall, and mini, and the Bailey Button, in core colors. Black, sand, navy, chestnut.

Taposh Bari
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay. Thanks.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yep, thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Corinna van der Ghinst from Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Corinna van der Ghinst
Analyst, Citigroup

Hi. Thank you. Good afternoon. Congratulations to Dave, and good luck to you on your next steps.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Thanks.

Corinna van der Ghinst
Analyst, Citigroup

Sorry. I believe you're expecting a mid-single digit decline in wholesale sales for this year. Can you parse out how much of that is due to the self-inflicted reductions in distribution versus existing accounts just getting more conservative on their backlogs and inventory management?

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah. It's not dramatic due to the account closures. A lot of the account closures, that 200 number that we represented overall, while it's a big number, it's a small % of our total business. It's more just to do with the overall situation in the marketplace. We feel very good about the product we're bringing to market and the go-to-market strategies we have in place. A little bit of that number is self-inflicted with regards to closing accounts, but the majority of that is due to whole partner open-to-buy.

Right.

Corinna van der Ghinst
Analyst, Citigroup

Okay.

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

This is Tom. Just to add to that, Corinna, just to confirm, we've got a flat revenue growth guide as well as a down 3%. Another driver is the down 3% is we assume more cancellations relative to reorders for the year.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yep. Correct.

Corinna van der Ghinst
Analyst, Citigroup

Okay. That's helpful. My follow-up was just on, if you could give us an update on the cost savings that you guys had discussed previously with the $35 million. It looks like your SG&A is going to deleverage this year or for the upcoming year. Could you just give more details on how you see that playing out and kind of what buckets of spending you're focused on for this year?

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah. The $35 million number, that was an annualized number, and we think, for the fiscal year 2017, we're about halfway there. From a store perspective, the stores that are going to close are going to be more later in the year, so we'll still have a fair amount of the store operating expenses for the year. I think we're halfway there on the Sanuk and our new portion of the operating expenses. We feel good where we're at in terms of reaffirming that number on an annualized basis going forward. We do have some of the reinvestment that we mentioned in fiscal year 2017 as well, because we do have some additional marketing we've put in to the plan this year, mostly around HOKA.

Corinna van der Ghinst
Analyst, Citigroup

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Randal Konik from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Randal Konik
Analyst, Jefferies

Yeah, thanks a lot. I guess my first question is, if we think about the long-term trend towards a more at-once business versus a pre-book business, how big of an at-once business do you think at once can get towards? How do you think about potentially having to [more for operate] the supply chain, in a different manner? How do you think about that kind of long-term trend and how you might have to change or manage the business in a different manner? That's my first question.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah, great question. I think the best way to answer that is really around making sure your supply chain can react to that. David Lafitte and the team and the operations team, and generally across the company, we're very focused on adjusting our time to market and our speed to market. That includes product development, timing to market, being able to fast-track product from a trend perspective, but also balancing out our production over the year and working closely with our factories so that we can turn deliveries around faster, mostly on core items, to be able to react to trends. It's not perfect to where we want it to be today, but we can react pretty quickly within core styles, roughly 90-120 days onto a partner's floor.

When we get into the beginning of the fall season, we can still react pretty quickly to some of those key styles.

Randal Konik
Analyst, Jefferies

I guess the second question is, as you think about, let's say the department store channel distribution is reducing open-to-buy dollars maybe getting just more cautious. What we've been hearing on some brands, using those more guarded open-to-buy dollars on proven winners in a company's line and pulling back a little bit on the risk factor side of things on newness. How do you think about, as your line is getting a little bit more SKU intensive or broadening out and becoming more of less dependent on one style, et cetera.

Are you using things like your direct-to-consumer database and kind of giving some data to the department stores to say, "Look, this is going to be a winner." I guess, how do you think about as these department stores continue to kind of pull back on that open-to-buy business, maybe get more conservative on the risk scale of things to get your new lines, your new direction, to be bought by those customers?

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

It's a great question, I think what we did last year with our swim and luxe products, by testing those products and launching them in our D2C channels first Being able to go to our key wholesaler accounts and show them the sell-through and the size scale analysis and the consumer type really helps the wholesale teams sell that product in at a much stronger rate. The Slim is a great example. It was a top seller for us in DTC last year. It's going to be a top five style at wholesale this year. That just speaks to the beauty of having a DTC organization that is tightly connected to the wholesale team, leveraging the learnings, leveraging the go-to-market expertise that we have, the presentation. That's something you're going to continue to see us do, is test and learn quickly.

As soon as we get results, we'll take it to wholesale. It's not a blind sell into the wholesale accounts. It comes with the analytics and the sell-through data that we have through our DTC channel.

Randal Konik
Analyst, Jefferies

Got it. My last question, if possible. The Koolaburra, I can't pronounce it, but it seems like a great opportunity in terms of not overlapping, using a different consumer or going after a different customer target. How do you think about the competition of, let's say, the branded UGG out there that you see in Macy's versus the pure UGG business you see out there in, let's say, perhaps a Target. When you think about the long-term distribution angle for the Koolaburra, do you think more like a Target UGG or a Macy's branded UGG to compete with? I'm just curious.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

I would say it's less the Target approach. It is still positioned as a better brand within that sub-$100 sheepskin boot market. It is going to come with a level of quality that we think is exceptional out there for those price points, and we're going to stay focused on that. We believe that there is a large opportunity in the marketplace for consumers who want quality, who want styling that fits their wardrobe and their lifestyle at a better price. Specific channels, it's hard to say at this point, but I know the major footwear chains and some of the value department stores, there's a lot of business there.

That's why we're starting this fall with what I would say is more of a pilot to get out there, get a read for it, see how customers react to it, we'll adjust our strategy going forward. We're also extremely mindful of the fact that we do not want this distribution to overlap with UGG. We're segmenting the marketplace strategically and thoughtfully, and we're going to continue to elevate the UGG brand while we create an opportunity for Koolaburra.

Randal Konik
Analyst, Jefferies

Got it. Thank you. Very helpful.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Great.

Operator

The next question comes from Mitch Kummetz from B. Riley. Please go ahead.

Mitch Kummetz
Analyst, B. Riley

Thanks. Tom, when you gave us your full year guidance, you kind of framed it in the context of modest weather improvement, kind of gets you flat sales, similar weather gets you down three. I'm trying to understand, when you say modest weather improvement, is that a normal winter, or what exactly does that mean?

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

No, that means a little better, not a normal winter.

Mitch Kummetz
Analyst, B. Riley

Okay. Let's assume we had a normal winter. What's the ability to drive better results than the high end of your guidance? I think it kind of goes back to the question about your ability to chase and on the reorder side. I'm just kind of curious how you guys are planning the inventory for that opportunity.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah. This is Dave, I can jump in on that. What we've done this year is we've taken a look at our key styles that we think there's upside in based on the way they were booked. We've identified those 5-10 styles that we're going to take a position on in inventory to be able to react to. They're styles that will not require markdowns if things are soft. We can carry those forward or sell them in Q4. The biggest benefit we have now is our integrated planning organization, which came with our business transformation efforts. We have a team that is focused on looking at inventory every single day, addressing our demand signal to the factories, and managing the flow of inventory so that it's much more in line and that we have much more intel going into those decisions at the factories.

We can plan better for that based on trend and demand, but also react in season better than we ever have before.

Mitch Kummetz
Analyst, B. Riley

Okay. I just want to go back to your question about white space. There's been some chatter out there, I've heard it from a number of people kind of thirdhand, that you guys might be opening Macy's this year. Can you address that? Is that something that you're looking at as far as the segmentation strategy? Also just on the Koolaburra, you talked about kind of a pilot program this fall. Can you talk about what retailers are actually taking that product?

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah. Part of looking at the white space and the opportunity is looking where we have the best opportunity to reach new consumers. We've been in conversations with Macy's that originally started around the opportunity of opening a concession at Herald Square, which actually I'm really excited to say we are going to open this fall. It's going to be on the main floor of Herald Square, I think next to Louis Vuitton. It's a great brand presentation to a global consumer. At the same time, we're going to be testing a premium presentation in some of their top flagship stores and key accounts. It's a very closely monitored partnership. We're also going to be testing roughly 20 to 30 doors in locations where we currently don't have distribution from our key accounts. It's very strategic. It's very focused on brand elevating presentation.

It's focused on controlling price within that channel. We think it's going to be additive to our base over time. We're starting off with a test this year, primarily focused, as I said, on Herald Square and taking advantage of that opportunity in New York City. It'll be stores only. We're not selling online with Macy's, and again, part of the test and evolve from there. Amazon, it's nothing new that we're talking to Amazon. We work with Amazon from a Deckers perspective and have been for quite some time. It's no secret that Amazon is taking share in the marketplace and becoming a major player. I think roughly 45% of searches online start on the Amazon website now.

Our brand is on there now. Our goal in negotiating with Amazon and working with them is to make sure that when the brand shows up on that site, that it shows up in a premium way, and it's a positive experience for the consumer. It's priced right, and it's merchandised right. It's early days of discussion of where we're going to land with Amazon, but it's been an ongoing partnership for some time. As we look at the realities in the marketplace and how things are shifting and where the consumer is shopping, I believe it's in our best interest to partner closely with them and control our destiny.

Mitch Kummetz
Analyst, B. Riley

Just on the pilot program with Macy's. That's all I had. Thanks, and good luck. I mean, pilot program with Koolaburra. Sorry.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Koolaburra. The major department store we're working with is going to be Kohl's. We'll be launching with Kohl's. Again, we've partnered closely with them. They understand what we're looking to do from a brand integrity perspective with pricing and positioning and placement. We know from talking to Kohl's that that consumer is looking for our type of product. We're doing a pretty significant test with them in a few hundred doors. A couple other major box retailers that aren't finalized yet. I think it'll give us a good broad-based test across different retailers, different consumers. We'll also be selling online on Amazon with the Koolaburra brand and on a Koolaburra website.

Mitch Kummetz
Analyst, B. Riley

Okay. Thanks again.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah.

Operator

Our next question comes from Scott Krasik from Buckingham Research. Please go ahead.

Scott Krasik
Analyst, Buckingham Research

Oh, hi, everyone. Good luck, Angel.

Angel Martinez
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, Deckers Outdoor

Thanks, Scott.

Scott Krasik
Analyst, Buckingham Research

Can you just give a little bit more color maybe on what you're seeing in some of the big regions, Japan, China, and Europe, from a comp perspective, and then how the bookings look as well for the fall in the various regions?

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah. I can speak to that a little bit, and Tom can jump in. Business overseas in the international business has been pretty stable. We went through a lot over the last 18 months with the China business, transitioning the office, repricing in that market, getting a hold on consumer shopping patterns. That business has stabilized. The Japan business, as you know, we've really transitioned that marketplace to be a wholesale dominant marketplace to DTC, including concessions-led marketplace. The brand is healthy and strong there. We're having great success with spring sell-through and new products in the men's business. I would say Europe has really hit a stabilization point as well. We're seeing comps stabilize in that marketplace. The transition for Germany is going well.

Sergio and the team there are really focused on executing and elevating the brand in Europe the same way we're doing in the U.S.

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

On the wholesale side, our international business, we're really pleased with how that is booked. The backlog is actually up relative to the prior year, and they normally order closer to in-season, that was really pleased how that went. We talked about the domestic wholesale business. I mean, that backlog as of that point in time is lower, relative to the total company backlog. We've been pleased with how we've been pre-booking since the date of the backlog.

Scott Krasik
Analyst, Buckingham Research

Thanks, Tom. Just two more clarifications. The first one, Tom, can you just remind us that $50 million in excess inventory at UGG, what is the composition of that inventory again? Dave, I think at Platform, the versions we saw were Koolaburra by UGG. I know there's some product out in the marketplace, I think at DSW, that's Koolaburra without the UGG brand. Where are we in that evolution and using the by UGG moniker thing?

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

Scott, this is Tom. The majority of that excess inventory is the UGG weather product and some slippers and some casual boots. That is being carried into the fall 2016 line. Since the last call, we've also made a lot of headway on being able to reduce our future buys going forward. We still believe by the end of September, our second fiscal quarter, that our inventory levels will be more in line with our relative sales levels. Maybe still be higher relative to a year ago, but not at the same levels that our current inventory levels are.

Scott Krasik
Analyst, Buckingham Research

Okay.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

With regards to Koolaburra, when we launch this fall, it will be branded Koolaburra by UGG. Obviously, by UGG is secondary. We felt, through internal conversations and conversations with consumers and our partners, that there obviously is equity from the UGG brand that we can use to help launch the brand. We've also looked at brands that have tried to do a sub-brand in the past that weren't connected to the master brand. The goal is to leverage the equity of the UGG brand to let people know that it's a value brand by UGG that they can trust, use that for the launch, and ultimately, over time, drop the UGG and just stick with Koolaburra.

Scott Krasik
Analyst, Buckingham Research

Thanks so much.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

At the same time, I think it's important to note that, particularly with Andrea coming on board now, we're going to continue to elevate the UGG brand, its premium positioning into a more accessible luxury space. You'll continue to see us doing things from a product perspective, positioning perspective, and marketing to maintain and elevate the premium positioning of the UGG brand at the same time.

Scott Krasik
Analyst, Buckingham Research

Helpful. Thanks. Good luck.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Svezia from Susquehanna International Group. Please go ahead.

Christopher Svezia
Analyst, Susquehanna International Group

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. Angel and Dave, all the best to you both. Just, I guess, Dave, question for you on the inventory in the channel. I'm just curious, sort of your view as to where it is now. What do you see out there in the marketplace? I guess particularly as it relates to something like a Bailey Bow or Bailey Button, and the fact that in theory, those products are supposed to be transitioned out of the market. The classic, call it 1.0, the idea that you were going to take some of that back into your, I guess, outlet channels April, May, sell it through there so that the retail channels that are out there, wholesale channels are pretty clean.

Just give us an update on what you see out there, and if that's still sort of taking place in terms of those transitions.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Chris, great question. We feel really good about how that transition of the classic has gone, especially since we made a decision to reduce price earlier and clear a lot of inventory in Q3. We had less than we had planned on originally coming into Q4. For the most part, the channel is pretty clean. We are taking back a little bit of inventory that we're going to continue to use to fuel our outlet business. We'll be running the original classic, the 1.0, so to speak, in our outlets over time at the current price, so the reduced price. There is some inventory out there of the older classic, in some smaller doors, and some of the Bailey Bow and Button product. For the most part, when we launch in July, in major accounts, you'll see only the 2.0 or the new classic on the floor.

It won't be sitting next to the older classic except for perhaps a few small independent accounts across the board. Generally speaking, the top 10 of our accounts, which is the majority of our business, will be clean, and it'll have pure presentation of the new classic.

Christopher Svezia
Analyst, Susquehanna International Group

Okay. A classic 2.0, call it, the new version, the pricing on that, will that go back to the historical 1.0 pricing? Just thoughts around that.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

The historical price of the original classic was $160. We're bringing this one out at $165.

Christopher Svezia
Analyst, Susquehanna International Group

Okay. All right, great. Tom, for you, just on the gross margin, up 200 basis points on the year. Any color about the cadence, about how we should think about that as it plays out each quarter?

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah. I think, Chris, that what you want to consider there is, between the flat scenario and the down scenario from a sales perspective, really the only swing item is in that December quarter. We would expect some operating margin expansion in the December quarter on the low case, and in the high case, we would expect more operating margin expansion in that December quarter. The fourth quarter, it is a smaller quarter, and from a basis point improvement perspective, that's the quarter that has the highest basis point improvement. The first quarter is relatively flat year-over-year. The second quarter, the expansion is more in line with the total year number.

Christopher Svezia
Analyst, Susquehanna International Group

Okay. Finally, I think you said 80 basis points for promotional activity. I'm just curious, given all the promotions that you had to run holiday of this past season, just your thoughts about to what extent you're going to either, A, continue to do that, or you factored some of that to your guidance, or you're just being conservative in assuming we'll only get back 80 basis points of the, call it 200, that we lost in big promotions. Just curious about that.

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

On the down scenario, we're assuming a similar promotional environment we did the last year. On the flat scenario, we're assuming a little bit better promotional environment.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

This is Dave. The goal of this fall and holiday obviously is not to repeat the level of promotions. As we said last fall and holiday, the classic and the Bailey Bow and Button promotions were a one-time event. The goal is to get back to normal cadence of markdowns that would be on seasonal product only, and continue back to the full price carryover model that we've had in the past. That's why you see a little bit of conservatism in the plan as well, is we want to maintain the integrity of the brand and the pricing and not have to get into a promotional environment.

Christopher Svezia
Analyst, Susquehanna International Group

Thank you very much. All the best. Appreciate it.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jim Duffy from Stifel. Please go ahead.

Jim Duffy
Managing Director, Stifel

Thank you, guys, and all the best on [inaudible].

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Thank you.

Jim Duffy
Managing Director, Stifel

Couple questions for you guys. Tom, do you happen to have handy the average selling prices for fiscal 2016? Or units?

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

Not really given that out.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah.

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

We know we had unit growth. The Average Selling Prices when you strip the promotions away, we know had some improvement there, but the promotional environment really put some pressure on that.

Jim Duffy
Managing Director, Stifel

Okay.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah. I think, Jim.

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

Oh, yeah.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Just to kind of answer that, I think I know where you're going. ASPs, if you look at them for FY 2016, lower than they were in the prior year, primarily driven by the lower promotion. The higher level of promotion driving lower ASP. As we look out in our guidance, we are assuming a higher level ASP in the guidance because of a slightly lower level, really, of promotion, as well as bringing on the New Classics, which will have the higher price point without the promotion.

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

The Slim.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

The Slim.

Thomas George
CFO, Deckers Outdoor

Prior.

Jim Duffy
Managing Director, Stifel

Got it. Yeah, that's exactly where I was going with that.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah.

Jim Duffy
Managing Director, Stifel

Dave, question for you. Within your stated priorities, you spoke to a focus on opportunities to streamline the organization. Are you prepared to speak of some of the key areas where you see those opportunities?

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah. We've been focused on that for the past 12 months. When you saw what we announced with the consolidation of the brands into two lifestyle groups, relocating HOKA and Sanuk into Goleta, those transitions are still in place. Wendy and team are looking at the restructure of how to best streamline those brands. It is something we're continuing to focus on and looking across the organization and our supply chain network, SKU efficiencies within the brands, making sure that our adds and drops are in line with how they should be. Generally speaking, there's a mindset up here of being more efficient, more focused on the things that are going to matter. We'll be taking a hard look, I should say, over the next 60 to 90 days of additional opportunities where we think there's efficiencies in the organization and to streamline SG&A.

Jim Duffy
Managing Director, Stifel

Okay. Final question, if I may, Dave. On the retail strategy, specifically the new UGG retail format, represented by Disney Springs, can you talk a little bit about that? I saw an article that spoke to efforts to attract a younger demographic, purpose of the stores being more directional in driving sales. Help us understand where you are going with that and some of the strategic rationale behind it.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

I'm really excited about that store design. If anybody that hasn't seen that, it's worth taking a look at the Disney Springs store we just opened a few weeks ago. It represents the new brand positioning, which we rolled out last year, which is much more California casual contemporary. If you think about the fact that we opened our first store 10 years ago as a footwear store, we've gone 10 years with expanded categories, getting into new categories of lounge and apparel and accessories, it's time to evolve our store design and our store experience for our consumer. It is a little bit more younger, a little more contemporary, a little more modern, which we think represents where the brand is today. It does appeal to a younger consumer.

It takes in all the things we've learned over the last years with regards to service levels, customer experience, a lot of the omni-channel capabilities that we've tested over the last two years. The goal is to use that as the new beacon for the brand, then we will take that experience down to our wholesale partners globally through shop in shops, partner stores, as part of a long-term effort to continue to elevate and reposition the UGG brand.

Jim Duffy
Managing Director, Stifel

That's great. Thanks for that.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. I'd now at this point turn the floor back over to management for any closing remarks.

Angel Martinez
CEO and Chair of the Board of Directors, Deckers Outdoor

Well, let me just say, it's been an incredible honor and privilege to be the CEO of this company, and I couldn't be more excited and enthused about Dave Powers stepping into the role. Over the last 11 years, I've had the incredible good fortune of working with so many special people to build an incredible success story in Deckers Brands. We've created tremendous opportunity for a lot of folks. I look forward to continuing to assist Dave and the management team as we move to the next chapter. It's going to be a great ride.

Dave Powers
President, Deckers Outdoor

Yeah. I would just add that I am incredibly grateful for the opportunity to work with Angel and have the support of the board and the organization. I'm very excited to work with an exceptional leadership team as we have at Deckers. The existing leadership as well as new leaders we've brought in over the last 18 months. Deckers is a special place. We are best in class in a lot of ways, but most importantly as a culture and an organization, and great people that work hard and get after business. I'm very excited to take on the opportunity. There's great opportunity for all of our brands and all of our people globally. We're very focused on driving shareholder value over the long term, and continuing to do great things at Deckers. Looking forward to it.