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Earnings Call: Q2 2015

Jul 29, 2015

Speaker 1

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Extra Space Storage Second Quarter 2015 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, there will be a question and answer session and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jeff Norman, Senior Director of Investor Relations.

Sir, you may begin.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Shannon. Welcome to Extra Space Storage's Q2 2015 conference call. In addition to our press release, we have furnished unaudited supplemental financial information on our website. Please remember that management's prepared remarks and answers to your questions may contain forward looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied by our forward looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business.

These forward looking statements are qualified by the cautionary statements contained in the company's latest filings with the SEC, which we encourage our listeners to review. Forward looking statements represent management's estimates as of today, Thursday, July 30, 2015. The company assumes no obligation to revise or update any forward looking statements because of changing market conditions or other circumstances after the date of this conference call. I would now like to turn the call over to Spencer Kirk, Chief Executive Officer.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Jeff. Hello, everyone. For quite some time, I have wondered when our business would go from being great to just really good. Through the 1st two quarters, it continues to be great. We reached record high occupancy of 94.5%, while producing same store revenue growth of 9.4%.

Year over year, NOI grew 12.1%. FFO as adjusted grew 17.2 percent and we increased our dividend by over 25 percent. This kind of growth is directly attributable to accretive acquisitions, muted new supply and our ability to source higher value customers online. We have been acquisitive. Year to date, we have closed over $350,000,000 in acquisitions.

In addition, last month, we announced a definitive merger agreement to acquire SmartStop, the 7th largest storage company in the U. S. For approximately $1,300,000,000 This single transaction will add 122 stores, 42 managed stores and will increase our footprint by 15%. Including this transaction, we will acquire $1,800,000,000 in 2015. Customer acquisition on the Internet is about size and scale.

With these acquisitions and the growth of our 3rd party management business, we will finish the year with over 1300 stores on the Extra Space platform. The expansion of our physical and digital footprint allows us to reach more customers than ever before and increases operational efficiencies. As I have said, it is a great time to be in storage. I will now turn the time over to Scott. Thanks, Spencer.

Last

Speaker 4

night, we reported FFO of $0.72 per share for the quarter. Excluding costs associated with acquisitions and non cash interest, FFO as adjusted was $0.75 per share, exceeding the high end of our guidance by $0.01 0 point 0 $0.01 The beat was primarily the result of better than expected property performance. Our same store revenue growth was driven by increased occupancy, higher rates to new and existing customers and lower discounts. Some of our standout markets in terms of revenue growth include Atlanta at 11%, Los Angeles and San Francisco at 12%, Orlando at 15%, Sacramento at 16% and Denver at 17%. Our platform continues to maximize results in this favorable operating environment.

As Spencer mentioned, we've been busy deploying capital. We've closed on 31 stores for $262,000,000 in the quarter, 2 of which were properties that we purchased upon completion of construction. We also purchased the remaining 1% of a joint venture partner's interest in a 19 store portfolio for $1,300,000 Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we acquired a certificate of occupancy store with a JV partner for $5,400,000 We currently have 3 operating stores under contract for $27,000,000 These acquisitions should close before the end of the year. In addition, we have another 16 certificate of occupancy stores under contract. The total purchase price of these stores is 172,000,000 dollars of which $36,000,000 is expected to close in 2015.

Additional details related to our C of O deals can be found in our supplemental package that's posted on our website. Last month, we announced the SmartStop acquisition and we completed an equity offering. The offering was well received and we issued 6,300,000 shares at $68.15 per share. This resulted in gross proceeds of 431,000,000 We are well into the process of securing additional debt to fund the balance of the SmartStop acquisition. The financing will include CMBS debt, secured bank loans and draws on our revolving lines of credit.

These draws will be turned out in the 3 to 6 months following close. The SmartStop acquisition as well as our strong year to date results require us to revise our guidance. These adjustments assume an October 1 closing of SmartStop. Our revised full year FFO guidance is $2.89 to $2.96 per share. Our FFO as adjusted is $2.99 to $3.06 per share.

Our guidance includes dilution from our certificate of occupancy deals and acquisitions that operate below our portfolio average as well as the additional shares issued in our June offering. I'll now turn the time back to Spencer. Thank you, Scott.

Speaker 3

Through acquisitions, joint ventures and third party management, we continue expand our portfolio and consolidate stores under the increasingly potent Extra Space brand. By the end of 2015, we will have closed approximately $4,000,000,000 in acquisitions over the last 5 years and there is still room to grow. The fundamentals of the storage industry continue to be favorable and we are leveraging our scalable platform to maximize revenue, NOI and FFO. I am pleased with the outstanding performance of our team. They have driven 19 consecutive quarters of double digit FFO growth.

We'll now turn the time back to Jeff to start our Q and A.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Spencer. In order to ensure we have adequate time to address everyone's questions, I would ask that everyone keep your initial questions brief and if possible limited to 2. If time allows, we will address follow on questions once everyone has had an opportunity to ask their initial questions. With that, we'll start our Q and A session.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our first question comes from Ki Bin Kim with SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. You may begin.

Speaker 5

Thank you. So as you almost approach public storage to scale and you've been growing pretty quickly, Do you think you've already kind of fully maximized the benefits from economies of scale of being bigger and being more present on the web? Or do you think there's more to be had as you get closer to like 2,000 properties?

Speaker 3

Ki Bin, it's Spencer. We think that there is upside. We're pleased with our performance. We're pleased with our potency. But the game is far from over and we need to continue to expand our footprint.

The Internet is about size and scale and we're going to continue.

Speaker 5

Okay. And just curious, is there anything else that you guys have changed in pricing strategy or the way you advertise in the web this past couple of quarters that you found to be without giving your trade secrets away a little bit more useful than it has in the past?

Speaker 3

Not a lot of changes in the last two quarters Ki Bin. We continue to refine our models. We continue to refine our approach and we continue to go after the higher value customers.

Speaker 5

Okay. That's for me. Thank you. Thanks.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question is from Jeff Spector with Bank of America. You may begin.

Speaker 6

Good afternoon. Just I guess talking I guess a little bit more about Spencer your initial comments that you've been waiting for that turn I guess from great to good. It sounds like we're still in the great phase. At the same time we are seeing some mixed economic data. Like what should we be really focused on here going forward the next 6 months, year?

And as we head into the Fed hike, is it just slow improving economy, the housing market? Consumer seems to be mixed here. So what do you think we should focus on?

Speaker 3

There is no one single thing I would ask you to focus on Jeff. The overall health of the U. S. Economy is the single biggest determinant for how we're going to do. As you look at storage operators, they have done well in spite of what I would call a less than robust economy.

So for the next 12 to 18 months, I think the 2 things that we need to underscore again, again and future. That bodes well. Number 2, the Internet. All of the rules changed. The Internet is not the great equalizer.

It's the great divider and we continue to use it to our advantage.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you. And then my second question is, can you comment on the cap rates for the 29 assets that you're acquiring?

Speaker 4

Yes. The assets that we acquired in the second quarter I would tell you are on the lower end. I mean typically we're looking at year 1 cap rates of 6 to 6.5 forward looking 1st year cap rates with the management fee. And the we have acquired a portfolio in Dallas that was actually below that. But we feel like there's a fair amount of upside and it should grow from there.

There's some lease up assets in there. In fact, one of them is just opening today.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Jeff. Thanks, Jeff.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from George Halpin with Jefferies. You may begin.

Speaker 7

Hey, guys. Can you just comment on some of the larger expense growth in certain markets like 8.5% in New York and I would say Atlanta had a 15% expense growth?

Speaker 4

Yes. The major areas of our expense growth where you see above average is one of 2 things. You have seen some higher than expected snow removal this year. And the second one is just property taxes. It depends on when these assets get reassessed.

So your other one in Atlanta is it's a little skewed by a land lease. It was basically an increase in the timing of when the land lease expense was reassessed.

Speaker 7

Okay. And then just one thing on the financing front. With the large SmartStop acquisition coming up, any sort of change in your thought process in terms of potentially at some point adding unsecured bond offering into the mix?

Speaker 4

So right now I would tell you our balance sheet is largely investment grade. I think if you look at our ratios and things we're very close, There's a few things keeping us from being rated. And right now those issues focus more on covenants as well as the cross default provisions in unsecured debt. So to date, we're going to operate similar to a rated entity, but right now we do not have any imminent plans to become a rated entity.

Speaker 8

Okay. Thanks guys.

Speaker 4

Thanks George.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from R. J. Milligan with Baird. You may begin.

Speaker 4

Hey, good afternoon guys. Question on your underwriting of

Speaker 9

the CFO deals. Can you talk about maybe how that's changed or different expectations over the past year given the improvement in fundamentals?

Speaker 4

So, R. J, this is Scott. We actually haven't changed our underwriting. I think that we still been pretty consistent in how we underwrite these deals. I think that if anything we're being surprised on the upside meaning these

Speaker 5

assets are leasing up quicker than expected. But at the same

Speaker 4

time that could change. So some opening in early 2018 now. So your problem with opening in early 2018 now. So your problem with becoming more aggressive in the short term is these assets be more of a long term play. So we've pro form a ed them more with 3 to 4 year lease ups, 36 month lease ups been pretty standard.

Speaker 9

Okay. And my second question is on the increased guidance. Same store NOI for the year up to about 200 basis points at the midpoint. Can you talk about the different drivers of that increase? What was going on in the Q2 that surprised you guys the upside?

Speaker 4

The 2 things that have really been better than we expected. 1 is our occupancy. Our occupancy, we expected to peak at about 94%, here at 94.5%. The second one is we think it will the second part of occupancy is we think it will continue to be strong for the year. We expect our occupancy delta to average 1.5% to 2%.

And then the second one is discounts. Discounts have been significantly below where we originally estimated.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Vikram Malhotra with Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 10

Just on that occupancy comment, if you were to kind of maybe look at all your assets and break them up into maybe 3 buckets, what proportion would you say, obviously based on every submarket has different peak occupancies, but what proportion would you say is kind of at in your view peak occupancy versus maybe just way below where you think you can really get a lot more games in the next 12 months?

Speaker 4

So I would tell you in terms of number of properties that we think there's a lot of upside on, it's minimal right now. Most of our properties are above 90%. I mean, we do have a few that maybe have some functional issues. But most of our properties are actually more in the 95% range. We do have a few that are full completely, meaning 100% full.

And we have a few that are in that for 70s just because maybe they're too big or a new competitor has come in right nearby.

Speaker 10

So it seems like the kind of one and the tariffs is very, very small right now. Most of them are kind of nearing near or at that peakish level?

Speaker 4

Yes, that's correct.

Speaker 10

And then just on the rate growth that you saw it, obviously you said the discount surprised you. But if we look forward kind of how sustainable is this kind of mid high mid to little above mid single digit growth in terms of the overall rent per square foot growth?

Speaker 4

As far as how long it goes, I think it's difficult to say. I think supply is going to play into that. Your other thing is the usage of storage and how your rates compare to, for instance, apartment rates and things like that, the rate per square foot. We have some markets where they approach that. But the one thing you do have going for you in storage is it's an infrequent transaction.

So someone knows what they're supposed to pay in rent because typically they have friends that rent or they know a lot of other renters and so they know what your average rental rate is. But at the same time, people don't rent self storage very often. So they typically just end up paying what the market is.

Speaker 10

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Vikram.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. You may begin.

Speaker 11

Yes. Hi, thanks. Just wanted to dig in a little further on the scalability of the property type. Spencer, you mentioned the importance of growing your digital footprint. And is that something that you can quantify or discuss as it pertains to your And is that something that you can quantify or discuss as it pertains to your decision to buy property?

How is that factored into the equation when you look at new investments?

Speaker 3

Todd, it's your lucky day. We're fortunate to have James Overturf, our Executive VP over marketing and Internet guru here. So I'm going to flip that question over to James and let him take it.

Speaker 12

Hi, Todd. I guess I walked by the room at the wrong time here. But no, it influences our decision. Is it 30 percent or 40% of the decision? No.

I think it's around the edges right now. But thanks to the data that we have, we do know where we're going to be able to have a little better impact on the marketing side with certain acquisitions. When we acquire properties in areas that we currently don't have scale, it's going to be a little bit more difficult to get those listings up in a quick fashion. But we do know the benefit will be there. If we acquire properties, let's say Los Angeles, Chicago or Dallas, the impact is almost immediate.

Especially if it's a smaller operator, we've seen huge upside in terms of their Internet traffic. So it does influence our decision, but mostly it goes back to the underwriting and the revenue assumptions. We always have battles in our REC about being too aggressive or too conservative. I think we've been properly valuing the properties, but we do see the Internet being more and more of a factor in terms of customer acquisition going forward. And we'll look for those opportunities where the small providers can't compete with us.

And so we'll look for those opportunities in the future.

Speaker 11

Okay. And then with regard to SmartStop and that transaction, how did you value the 3rd party management agreement that you struck as part of that transaction overall? What's that opportunity like for you?

Speaker 4

So we feel like it's a big opportunity Todd. They have 2 more funds that are going to be raising money and buying properties. So we and those management contracts are coming our way. In terms of how we valued it and put a cap on it, we viewed it more as a benefit. And so therefore, we are maybe willing to pay a more aggressive cap rate on the existing assets.

We didn't necessarily say it's worth X because those management contracts are month to month and we don't expect them to go anywhere, but at the same time, we don't put a huge amount of value on

Speaker 8

that. Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Todd.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Todd Stender with Wells Fargo. You may begin.

Speaker 13

Hi, thanks. CFO activity continues to the space? I wanted to see how you guys assess who's supplying liquidity to developers? How we're thinking about increasing your supply of these assets and you guys potentially taking more incremental risk? Just seeing how you're thinking about the front end on the lending side?

Speaker 4

Yes. On the lending side, I think that lenders are still conservative. A well capitalized developer is going to be able to get a loan. I think the majority of these developers we work with are well capitalized. We want to make sure that our developers have the ability to absorb losses, if that's required and that they can perform to our standards.

So I think that lenders are willing to lend, but I don't think they're willing to lend at the rate that is going to cause significant new supply at this time.

Speaker 13

Okay. That's helpful, Scott. And just going back to party management, again, the shift is more towards the CFO deals and not stabilized facilities that you guys manage. But just wanted to get your current thoughts on how you're looking at the potential pipeline to acquire your 3rd party assets?

Speaker 3

So Todd, it's Spencer. Nothing has shifted. We're very interested in stabilized assets, because you take that stabilized asset put it into our operating platform and that's where you squeeze a lot of incremental performance out of what we would generally consider an undermanaged asset. So it hasn't been a shift to the CFO. We like stabilized assets and we think that the market is wide open for additional operational consolidation.

My personal math is if there are 54,000 self storage facilities in the U. S, you could probably knock 30,000 of those out as being too small, too old or in the wrong markets for us. You take out another 4000 to 5000 for the larger national operators and that still leaves somewhere around 19,000 to 20,000 properties that are wide open for operational or financial consolidation and we think there is plenty of room to grow on both fronts.

Speaker 13

Great. Thanks, Spencer.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Thanks, Todd.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Neil Malkin with RBC Capital Markets. You may begin.

Speaker 14

Hey, guys. Good morning out there. First question is on rent growth and trends. Given that we've seen a pickup in housing velocity vis a vis existing home sales, just strength out of that market and that is your number one demand generator in the residential market. And we've seen wage pressure kind of pick up recently.

Do you think that even though supply may come on in 24 months more than it is now, we could see a ramp up still of rental rate growth given that strong correlation with the housing market and your guys' performance?

Speaker 4

Neal, it's Scott. So first of all, I think we do see some correlation with the housing market, but it's not a perfect correlation. I think the thing that is has the highest correlation is change. So whether that's a housing or a change in someone's personal life, that's what's causing people to rent self storage. They all have a need coming in the door.

We think that those needs are going to continue. And as long as new supply is low, we think that we will have pricing power.

Speaker 14

Okay. And then Stipes, I guess, this one for you. Talking to some brokers and it seems like in a certain market like Denver, for example, there's like probably 50 or so permits for storage and probably new things only 8% to 10% will be actually delivered near term. Can you explain or help explain why there's a large disconnect between permits and then actually getting approved? I mean, I know some fallout just by the nature of the permitting process.

But can you maybe give some color on the difficulty or complexity to get a permit from start to go to groundbreak time?

Speaker 3

Yes. So there are a lot of factors in there. One of the biggest ones is self storage is not a welcome asset class in most neighborhoods. We don't provide a lot of jobs. We don't collect a lot of tax revenue and most municipalities don't roll out the red carpet.

You throw in the cost of land because everybody is trying to develop just not folks that can do storage. You look at the lending environment and probably one of the biggest ones Neil that I have observed is the risk versus reward curve shifted and it's not in favor of the developer. So the local developer has constructed on budget if they're lucky. And then they're left with a question, now what do I do? Because I can't take out a yellow page ad anymore and I am in no man's land.

Oh, I need to align myself with a management company that can drive traffic to this property and I'm going to pay management fees. I'm probably going to give up some or all of the tenant insurance. I'm going to get downstream to a bunch of other costs. And at the end of the day, I'm going to make a lot less money than I would have made otherwise. So the return on these investments for these guys trying to go out and get a permit, I think there's some hesitation.

I think land costs are higher than what a lot of people have thought they'd be. Permitting is more difficult. I can tell you two cases in California on properties that we had worked on it took more than 10 years to get a permit in some prime locations. So this is not easily done in some locations. Yes, you're seeing some development come out of the ground.

You cite Denver? Sure. But across the country, we still maintain and assert that the rate of growth of new supply is still less than the rate of growth of the population in the U. S. It is a great time to be in storage.

Speaker 5

Thank you. Thanks, Neal.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Our next question is from Ryan Burke with Green Street Advisors. You may begin.

Speaker 15

Thank you. Scott, you mentioned the more aggressive cap rate on the Smart Stock portfolio. That's a cap rate that certainly comes in below where you typically target your acquisitions on a 6% basis. Can you talk us through your view on what that cap rate was on trailing NOI in SmartStop's hands and what it becomes year 1 in your hands?

Speaker 16

Yes. So first of

Speaker 4

all, I think it's difficult to comment on what the trailing NOI is because there's some expense differences in how we operate the properties. There's also property tax assumptions that are made. Going forward, we can clearly comment on that. We're viewing this as kind of mid-5s cap rate year 1 and growing from there. As we bought it, I think the one thing that we always consider is where what happens is there seems to be a portfolio premium that's applied to any portfolio that's out there, especially one of this size.

I think this is one of the if not the largest, largest one to trade hands in some time. And we typically look at that as you end up paying 75 basis points premium to get a portfolio deal done.

Speaker 10

Okay. Can you talk

Speaker 15

a little bit about the tenant insurance penetration rate on the portfolio and how that compares to your same store portfolio?

Speaker 4

Yes. So their tenant insurance penetration is lower than ours, significantly lower. They're closer to 50% penetration. And their average rate per policy is a fair amount lower than ours also. Okay.

So how long do

Speaker 15

you think it takes if your same store penetration rate is in the 70% range, say, how long does it take to get that up there?

Speaker 4

We think it will be 1 to 2 years to get it up to our penetration level. Just because we're not going to bother the existing customers, we are going to do it as these units churn.

Speaker 5

Sure.

Speaker 15

Okay. Thanks. And one quick one

Speaker 4

just on the balance sheet.

Speaker 15

Can you update us on your thoughts on entering into an ATM program? And how likely you are to do so? And so, how you plan to use it moving forward?

Speaker 4

So an ATM is obviously always a Board decision. It's something that we are in discussions in today. It's something that we've talked about in the past quite often. So it's really difficult to comment on their decision there.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Ryan.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jeremy Metz with UBS. You may begin.

Speaker 17

Hey, guys. I'm on with Ross.

Speaker 5

Unless I missed it, I

Speaker 17

don't think you guys gave a July update yet. So you finished the quarter with occupancy up about 2 40 basis points. So I was just wondering kind of where occupancy stands today versus last year, same with street rates? And then just kind of bigger picture, you had realized rent growth of north of 6%. So I guess, can this continue at this high level?

Or should we think about rate growth kind of selling back down to that 4% to 5% range here?

Speaker 3

Jeremy, it's Spencer. 4th July, we're not giving specifics. What I can tell you is occupancy is holding, rates are holding. And we'll have to see how the rest of the year plays out, but things are good.

Speaker 17

And just so where were street rates then versus last year in 2Q?

Speaker 3

Kind of in the 7% to 8% up.

Speaker 17

Okay. And then I think Ross has a question.

Speaker 16

Yes. Hey, guys. I got two questions. The first is on page 16 of your supplemental. When you show in the quarter that rentals were down 1 percent and vacates were up 1.2%, how should we think about that information?

Obviously, it differs quite dramatically from what you're putting up on the same store revenue and occupancy front, but it kind of shows you had more people moving out than moving in. How should we think about that data relative to what's on the income statement?

Speaker 4

Yes. I think there's a couple of things to consider there. You need to look at the rentals, but you also need to look at the vacates, because vacates were depending on where you are rentals versus vacates and the difference between them, because certain times a year you have significantly more rentals than you have vacates. What we focus on more than rentals and vacates, we view that when we look at this, we don't look at this just on a 3 month or a 6 month period. We look at rentals and vacates and see how they compare to the past 6 or 7 years on average per property.

And then we focus much more on the occupancy of the property.

Speaker 16

Okay. My second question is to you, Spencer, which is I'm looking at my comp spreadsheet here and I'm looking at a $4,000,000,000 company that trades at 6% cap rate. What's your appetite for public M and A? I mean, it seems like your appetite for private M and A at 5 handle valuations is pretty high. Why not look at some of your smaller peers?

Speaker 3

Our appetite really has nothing to do with our public or private Ross. It has a lot to do with does it make sense and is it the right thing for our shareholders. If you look at the public environment, there's probably going to be a stiff premium fixed to that kind of transaction and we are rational buyers.

Speaker 5

Okay. Appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question is a follow-up from Ki Bin Kim with SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. You may begin.

Speaker 5

Yes. Thank you. So let me Spencer you definitely sound pretty bullish and you have the resolve to it up. And maybe it's a little premature, but we are past the halfway year mark. So looking ahead and I'm not asking for guidance, but just looking ahead maybe 18 months or so, how should we think about some of your bullish comments, the really good results and how that probably ties into kind of forward growth rate for your company in terms of same store organic growth, because it does seem like at the towards the end of every year, not just you, but all your companies start to become a little more conservative about the outlook.

Speaker 3

So if we look forward, I see things, key bins still being good. I don't know if we're going to be operating in the stratosphere, but I can tell you with no new supply and our ascendancy on the Internet, I don't see anything that is disruptive barring a Black Swan event in the next 12 to 18 months. I am bullish and this is an unprecedented market in which we're operating and we're going to take every advantage to maximize the result. My crystal ball is no better than anyone else, but I don't see anything that is likely to disrupt the operating environment in which we're currently operating. And I think you can expect to see really strong results.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thanks for that color. And this is just a comment, but I think half the companies in the sector report maintenance CapEx and half don't. Just curious if you guys have any thoughts about maybe including that going forward just for comparability if they can I'm sure that just makes it look better anyway.

Speaker 4

Yes. It's something we'll look at. It's not anything we put out there yet. We have a pretty robust supplemental package, but it's something we'll consider.

Speaker 5

All right. Thank you, guys. Thanks, Ki Bin.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question is from Jonathan Hughes with Raymond James. Please begin.

Speaker 8

Sorry about the getting cut off earlier. But most of my questions have been answered at this point, but I had one follow-up. So how aggressively do you plan to raise rates in the SmartStop portfolio once it closes in 4Q? I noticed that the rates are like 20% below EXR's overall run per square foot. Maybe they don't get there

Speaker 5

right

Speaker 8

off the bat, but I'm just curious as the trajectory of how quickly you'll try to narrow that gap?

Speaker 4

Yes. We'll focus mainly on occupancy in the 1st year. We'll try to keep their occupancy up to exactly where we are. The other thing I would caution you on is you can't just look straight at 20%, because they may or may not compete directly with our properties. So we'll aggressively move the occupancy.

And then from there, we aggressively move the rates to be in line with our existing stores that are in the same markets.

Speaker 8

Okay. All right. That's it for me guys. Thanks. Great.

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. I'm currently showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Spencer Kirk for closing remarks.

Speaker 3

Thank you everyone for your interest in Extra Space today. We look forward to next quarter's call. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thanks for your participation and have a wonderful

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