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Earnings Call: Q2 2015

Jul 29, 2015

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Extra Space Storage second quarter 2015 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. Later, there will be a question and answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. If you require any assistance during today's call, you may press star then zero on your touchtone telephone. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jeff Norman, Senior Director of Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.

Jeff Norman
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Extra Space Storage

Thank you, Shannon. Welcome to Extra Space Storage's second quarter 2015 conference call. In addition to our press release, we have furnished unaudited supplemental financial information on our website. Please remember that management's prepared remarks and answers to your questions may contain forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied by our forward-looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business. These forward-looking statements are qualified by the cautionary statements contained in the company's latest filings with the SEC, which we encourage our listeners to review. Forward-looking statements represent management's estimates as of today, Thursday, July 30, 2015. The company assumes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements because of changing market conditions or other circumstances after the date of this conference call.

I would now like to turn the call over to Spencer Kirk, Chief Executive Officer.

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Thanks, Jeff. Hello, everyone. For quite some time, I have wondered when our business would go from being great to just really good. Through the first two quarters, it continues to be great. We reached record high occupancy of 94.5% while producing same store revenue growth of 9.4%. Year-over-year, NOI grew 12.1%, FFO as adjusted grew 17.2%, and we increased our dividend by over 25%. This kind of growth is directly attributable to accretive acquisitions, muted new supply, and our ability to source higher value customers online. We have been acquisitive. Year-to-date, we have closed over $350 million in acquisitions. In addition, last month, we announced a definitive merger agreement to acquire SmartStop, the seventh largest storage company in the U.S., for approximately $1.3 billion. This single transaction will add 122 owned stores, 42 managed stores, and will increase our footprint by 15%.

Including this transaction, we will likely acquire $1.8 billion in 2015. Customer acquisition on the internet is about size and scale. With these acquisitions and the growth of our third-party management business, we will finish the year with over 1,300 stores on the Extra Space platform. The expansion of our physical and digital footprint allows us to reach more customers than ever before and increases operational efficiencies. As I have said, it is a great time to be in storage. I will now turn the time over to Scott.

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

Thanks, Spencer. Last night, we reported FFO of $0.72 per share for the quarter. Excluding costs associated with acquisitions and non-cash interest, FFO as adjusted was $0.75 per share, exceeding the high end of our guidance by $0.01. The beat was primarily the result of better than expected property performance. Our same store revenue growth was driven by increased occupancy, higher rates to new and existing customers, and lower discounts. Some of our standout markets in terms of revenue growth include Atlanta at 11%, Los Angeles and San Francisco at 12%, Orlando at 15%, Sacramento at 16%, and Denver at 17%. Our platform continues to maximize results in this favorable operating environment. As Spencer mentioned, we've been busy deploying capital. We closed on 31 stores for $262 million in the quarter, two of which were properties that we purchased upon completion of construction.

Jeff Norman
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Extra Space Storage

We also purchased the remaining 1% of a joint venture partner's interest in a 19-store portfolio for $1.3 million. Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we acquired a certificate of occupancy store with a JV partner for $5.4 million. We currently have three operating stores under contract for $27 million. These acquisitions should close before the end of the year. In addition, we have another 16 certificate of occupancy stores under contract. The total purchase price of these stores is $172 million, of which $36 million is expected to close in 2015. Additional details related to our C of O deals can be found in our supplemental package that's posted on our website. Last month, we announced the SmartStop acquisition, and we completed an equity offering. The offering was well-received, and we issued 6.3 million shares at $68.15 per share. This resulted in gross proceeds of $431 million.

We are well into the process of securing additional debt to fund the balance of the SmartStop acquisition. The financing will include CMBS debt, secured bank loans, and draws on our revolving lines of credit. These draws will be termed out in the three to six months following close. The SmartStop acquisition, as well as our strong year-to-date results, require us to revise our guidance. These adjustments assume an October 1st closing of SmartStop. Our revised full year FFO guidance is $2.89 to $2.96 per share. Our FFO as adjusted is $2.99 to $3.06 per share. Our guidance includes dilution from our certificate of occupancy deals and acquisitions that operate below our portfolio average, as well as the additional shares issued in our June offering. I'll now turn the time back to Spencer.

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Thank you, Scott. Through acquisitions, joint ventures, and third-party management, we continue to expand our portfolio and consolidate stores under the increasingly potent Extra Space brand. By the end of 2015, we will have closed approximately $4 billion in acquisitions over the last five years, and there is still room to grow. The fundamentals of the storage industry continue to be favorable, and we are leveraging our scalable platform to maximize revenue, NOI, and FFO. I am pleased with the outstanding performance of our team. They have driven 19 consecutive quarters of double-digit FFO growth. We'll now turn the time back to Jeff to start our Q&A.

Jeff Norman
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Extra Space Storage

Thank you, Spencer. In order to ensure we have adequate time to address everyone's questions, I would ask that everyone keep your initial questions brief and, if possible, limited to two. If time allows, we will address follow-on questions once everyone has had an opportunity to ask their initial questions. With that, we'll start our Q&A session.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question at this time, please press the star, the number one key on your touch-tone telephone. If your question has been answered or you wish to remove yourself from the queue, please press the pound key. Our first question comes from Ki Bin Kim with SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. You may begin.

Ki Bin Kim
Analyst, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey

As you almost approach Public Storage's scale and you've been growing pretty quickly, do you think you've already kind of fully maximized the benefits from economies of scale of being bigger and being more present on the web? Do you think there's more to be had as you get closer to 2,000 properties?

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Ki Bin, it's Spencer. We think that there is upside. We're pleased with our performance. We're pleased with our potency. The game is far from over. We need to continue to expand our footprint. The internet is about size and scale. We're going to continue.

Ki Bin Kim
Analyst, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey

Okay. Just curious, is there anything else that you guys have changed in pricing strategy or the way you advertise on the web this past couple of quarters that you found to be, without giving a trade secret away, a little bit more useful than it has in the past?

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Not a lot of changes in the last two quarters, Ki Bin. We continue to refine our models, we continue to refine our approach. We continue to go after the higher value customers.

Ki Bin Kim
Analyst, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey

Okay. That's for me. Thank you.

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Jeffrey Spector with Bank of America. You may begin.

Jeffrey Spector
Analyst, Bank of America

I guess talking a little bit more about, Spencer, your initial comments that you've been waiting for that turn, I guess from great to good. It sounds like we're still in the great phase. At the same time, we are seeing some mixed economic data. What should we be really focused on here going forward the next six months, year, as we head into the Fed hike? Is it just slow, improving economy, the housing market? Consumer seems to be mixed here, what do you think we should focus on?

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

There is no one single thing I would ask you to focus on, Jeff. The overall health of the U.S. economy is the single biggest determinant for how we're going to do. As you look at storage operators, they have done well in spite of what I would call a less than robust economy. For the next 12 to 18 months, I think the two things that we need to underscore again, and again. Number 1, there is very little new supply today and for the foreseeable future. That bodes well. Number 2, the internet. All of the rules change. The internet is not the great equalizer. It's the great divider, we continue to use it to our advantage.

Jeffrey Spector
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay, thank you. My second question is, can you comment on the cap rates for the 29 assets that you're acquiring?

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

Yeah. The assets that we acquired in the second quarter, I would tell you, are on the lower end. Typically, we're looking at year one cap rates of six to six and a half forward-looking first-year cap rates with a management fee. We have acquired a portfolio in Dallas that was actually below that, but we feel like there's a fair amount of upside and it should grow from there. There's some lease-up assets in there. In fact, one of them is just opening today.

Jeffrey Spector
Analyst, Bank of America

Great. Thank you.

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Thanks, Jeff.

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from George Hoglund with Jefferies. You may begin.

George Hoglund
VP of Equity Research, Jefferies

Hey, guys. Can you comment on some of the larger expense growth in certain markets, like, 8.5% in New York and Atlanta had a 15% expense growth?

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Yeah. The major areas of our expense growth where you see above average is one of two things. Then the second one is just property taxes. It depends on when these assets get reassessed. Your other one in Atlanta is a little skewed by a land lease. It was basically an increase in the timing of when the land lease expense was reassessed.

George Hoglund
VP of Equity Research, Jefferies

Okay. Then just one thing on the financing front. With the large SmartStop acquisition coming up, any sort of change in your thought process in terms of potentially at some point adding unsecured bond offering into the mix?

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Right now, I would tell you our balance sheet is largely investment grade. I think if you look at our ratios and things, we're very close. There's a few things keeping us from being rated. Right now, those issues focus more on covenants as well as the cross-default provisions in unsecured debt. To date, we're going to operate similar to a rated entity, but right now, we do not have any imminent plans to become a rated entity.

George Hoglund
VP of Equity Research, Jefferies

Okay. Thanks, guys.

Jeff Norman
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Extra Space Storage

Thanks, George.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from RJ Milligan with Baird. You may begin.

RJ Milligan
Analyst, Baird

Hey, good afternoon, guys. Question on your underwriting of the C of O deals. Can you talk about maybe how that's changed or different expectations over the past year, given the improvement in fundamentals?

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

RJ, this is Scott. We actually haven't changed our underwriting. I think that we've still been pretty consistent in how we underwrite these deals. I think that if anything, we're being surprised on the upside, meaning these assets are leasing up quicker than expected, but at the same time, that could change. Some of these C of O deals we're looking at today, one or two of them are opening in early 2018 now. Your problem with becoming more aggressive in the short term is these assets may be more of a long-term play. We've pro forma'd them more with three to four-year lease-ups. 36-month lease-up's been pretty standard.

RJ Milligan
Analyst, Baird

Okay. My second question is on the increased guidance, same store NOI for the year, upped at about 200 basis points at the midpoint. Can you talk about the different drivers of that increase? What was going on in the second quarter that surprised you guys to the upside?

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

The two things that have really been better than we expected, one is our occupancy. Our occupancy, we expected to peak at about 94%, year-end 94.5%. The second part of occupancy is we think it will continue to be strong for the year. We expect our occupancy delta to average 1.5%-2%. The second one is discounts. Discounts have been significantly below where we originally estimated.

RJ Milligan
Analyst, Baird

Great. Thanks, guys.

Jeff Norman
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Extra Space Storage

Thanks, RJ.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Vikram Malhotra with Morgan Stanley. You may begin.

Vikram Malhotra
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you. Just on the occupancy comment, if you were to kind of maybe look at all your assets and break them up into maybe three buckets, what proportion would you say, obviously based on every sub-market has different peak occupancies, but what proportion would you say is kind of at, in your view, peak occupancy versus maybe just way below where you think you can really get a lot more gains in the next 12 months?

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

I would tell you in terms of number of properties that we think there's a lot of upside on, it's minimal right now. Most of our properties are above 90%. We do have a few that maybe have some functional issues, but most of our properties are actually more in the 95% range. We do have a few that are full, completely, meaning 100% full, and we have a few that are in the upper 70s just because maybe they're too big or a new competitor has come in right nearby.

Vikram Malhotra
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

It seems like the kind of one end of the tail is just very, very small right now. Most of them are kind of nearing near or at that peak-ish level.

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Yes, that's correct.

Vikram Malhotra
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Just on the rate growth that you saw, obviously you said the discount surprised you, but if we look forward kind of how sustainable is this kind of mid-high, mid to little above mid-single digit growth in terms of the overall rent per square foot growth?

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

As far as how long it goes, I think it's difficult to say. I think supply is going to play into that. Your other thing is the usage of storage and how your rates compare to, for instance, apartment rates and things like that, the rate per square foot. We have some markets where they approach that. The one thing you do have going for you in storage is it's an infrequent transaction. Someone knows what they're supposed to pay in rent because typically they have friends that rent or they know a lot of other renters, and so they know what your average rental rate is. At the same time, people don't rent self-storage very often, so they typically just end up paying what the market is.

Vikram Malhotra
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, thank you.

Jeff Norman
Senior Director of Investor Relations, Extra Space Storage

Thanks, Vikram.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. You may begin.

Todd Thomas
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Yeah. Hi, thanks. Just wanted to dig in a little further on the scalability of the property type. Spencer, you mentioned the importance of growing your digital footprint. I'm not suggesting growth for growth's sake, but how important is the growth of your digital footprint when it comes to driving core growth? Is that something that you can quantify or discuss as it pertains to your decision to buy property? How's that factored into the equation when you look at new investments?

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Todd, it's your lucky day. We're fortunate to have James Overturf, our Executive VP over marketing and internet guru here. I'm going to flip that question over to James and let him take it.

James Overturf
EVP and CMO, Extra Space Storage

Hi, Todd. I guess I walked by the room at the wrong time here. No, it influences our decision. Is it 30% or 40% of the decision? No. I think it's around the edges right now. Thanks to the data that we have, we do know where we're going to be able to have a little better impact on the marketing side with certain acquisitions. When we acquire properties in areas that we currently don't have scale, it's going to be a little bit more difficult to get those listings up in a quick fashion. We do know the benefit will be there. If we acquire properties, let's say Los Angeles, Chicago, or Dallas. The impact is almost immediate, especially if it's a smaller operator. We've seen huge upside in terms of their internet traffic.

It does influence our decision, but mostly it goes back to the underwriting and the revenue assumptions. We always have battles in our REC about it being too aggressive or too conservative. I think we've been properly valuing the properties, but we do see the internet being more and more of a factor in terms of customer acquisition going forward. We'll look for those opportunities where the small providers can't compete with us, and so we'll look for those opportunities in the future.

Todd Thomas
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Then with regard to SmartStop and that transaction, how did you value the third-party management agreement that you struck as part of that transaction overall? What's that opportunity like for you?

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

We feel like it's a big opportunity, Todd. They have two more funds that are going to be raising money and buying properties. Those management contracts are coming our way. In terms of how we valued it and put a cap on it, we viewed it more as a benefit. Therefore, we were maybe willing to pay a more aggressive cap rate on the existing assets. We didn't necessarily say it's worth X because those management contracts are month to month. We don't expect them to go anywhere, but at the same time, we don't put a huge amount of value on that.

Todd Thomas
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Thank you.

James Overturf
EVP and CMO, Extra Space Storage

Thanks, Todd.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Todd Stender with Wells Fargo. You may begin.

Todd Stender
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Hi, thanks. C of O activity continues to astound. We see the activity you guys are doing, especially across the industry as well. Is there a general increase in lenders in the space? I wanted to see how you guys assess who's supplying liquidity to developers, how we're thinking about increasing your supply of these assets and you guys potentially taking more incremental risk. Just seeing how you're thinking about the front end on the lending side.

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

Yeah. On the lending side, I think that lenders are still conservative. A well-capitalized developer is going to be able to get a loan. I think the majority of these developers we work with are well capitalized. We want to make sure that our developers have the ability to absorb losses if that's required, and that they can perform to our standards. I think that lenders are willing to lend, but I don't think they're willing to lend at a rate that is going to cause significant new supply at this time.

Todd Stender
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay. That's helpful, Scott. Just going back to third-party management, again, the shift is more towards the C of O deals and not stabilized facilities that you guys manage. Just wanted to get your current thoughts on how you're looking at the potential pipeline to acquire your third-party assets.

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Todd, it's Spencer. Nothing has shifted. We're very interested in stabilized assets because you take that stabilized asset, put it into our operating platform, and that's where you squeeze a lot of incremental performance out of what we would generally consider an under-managed asset. It hasn't been a shift to the C of O. We like stabilized assets, and we think that the market is wide open for additional operational consolidation. My personal math is if there are 54,000 self-storage facilities in the U.S., you could probably knock 30,000 of those out as being too small, too old, or in the wrong markets for us.

You take out another 4,000 to 5,000 for the larger national operators, that still leaves somewhere around 19,000 to 20,000 properties that are wide open for operational or financial consolidation, we think there is plenty of room to grow on both fronts.

Todd Stender
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Great. Thanks, Spencer.

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Thanks.

James Overturf
EVP and CMO, Extra Space Storage

Thanks, Todd.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Neil Malkin with RBC Capital Markets. You may begin.

Neil Malkin
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Hey, guys. Good morning out there.

My first question is on rent growth and trends. Given that we've seen a pickup in housing velocity vis-a-vis existing home sales, just strength out of that market, and that is your number one demand generator, the residential market. We've seen wage pressure kind of pick up recently. Do you think that, even though supply may come on in 24 months more than it is now, we could see a ramp up still of rental rate growth, given that strong correlation with the housing market and you guys' performance?

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

Neil, it's Scott. First of all, I think we do see some correlation with the housing market, but it's not a perfect correlation. I think the thing that has the highest correlation is change. Whether that's a housing or a change in someone's personal life, that's what's causing people to rent self-storage. They all have a need coming in the door. We think that those needs are going to continue. As long as new supply is low, we think that we'll have pricing power.

Neil Malkin
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay. Then, Spence, I guess this one for you. Talking to some brokers and it seems like in a certain market, like Denver, for example, there's probably 50 or so permits for storage. Probably you think only 8-10 will be actually delivered near term. Can you explain or help explain why there's a large disconnect between permits and then actually getting approved? I know some fallout just by the nature of the permitting process, but can you maybe give some color on the difficulty or complexity to get a permit from start to go, to ground break time?

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Yes. There are a lot of factors in there. One of the biggest ones is, self-storage is not a welcome asset class in most neighborhoods. We don't provide a lot of jobs, we don't collect a lot of tax revenue, and most municipalities don't roll out the red carpet. You throw in the cost of land because everybody's trying to develop, just not folks that can do storage. You look at the lending environment, and probably one of the biggest ones, Neil, that I have observed is the risk versus reward curve shifted, and it's not in favor of the developer. The local developer has an ability to go out and get the property entitled, if they're lucky, and get it constructed on budget, if they're lucky, and then they're left with the question, now what do I do?

Because I can't take out a Yellow Pages ad anymore, and I am in no man's land. Oh, I need to align myself with a management company that can drive traffic to this property, and I'm going to pay management fees. I'm probably going to give up some or all of the tenant insurance. I'm going to get downstreamed a bunch of other costs, and at the end of the day, I'm going to make a lot less money than I would've made otherwise. The return on these investments for these guys trying to go out and get a permit, yeah, I think there's some hesitation. I think land costs are higher than what a lot of people have thought they'd be. Permitting is more difficult.

I can tell you, two cases in California, on properties that we had worked on, it took more than 10 years to get a permit in some prime locations. This is not easily done in some locations. Yeah, you are seeing some development come out of the ground. You cite Denver. Sure. Across the country, we still maintain and assert that the rate of growth of new supply is still less than the rate of growth of the population in the U.S. It is a great time to be in storage.

Neil Malkin
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

All right. Thank you.

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Thanks, Neil.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jonathan Hughes with Raymond James. You may begin. Jonathan Hughes, your line is open. Please check your mute button. Our next question is from Ryan Burke with Green Street Advisors. You may begin.

Ryan Burke
Analyst, Green Street Advisors

Thank you. Scott, you mentioned the more aggressive cap rate on the SmartStop portfolio. That's a cap rate that certainly comes in below where you typically target your acquisitions on a 6% basis. Can you talk us through your view on what that cap rate was on trailing NOI in SmartStop's hands, and what it becomes year one in your hands?

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

Yeah. First of all, I think it's difficult to comment on what the trailing NOI is because there's some expense differences in how we operate the properties. There's also property tax assumptions that are made. Going forward, we can clearly comment on that. We're viewing this as kind of mid-5s cap rate year one, and growing from there. As we bought it, I think the one thing that we always consider is what happens is there seems to be a portfolio premium that's applied to any portfolio that's out there, especially one of this size. I think this is one of the, if not the largest, one to trade hands in some time. We typically look at that as you end up paying 75 basis points premium to get a portfolio deal done.

Ryan Burke
Analyst, Green Street Advisors

Okay. Can you talk a little bit about the tenant insurance penetration rate on the portfolio and how that compares to your same store portfolio?

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

Yeah. Their tenant insurance penetration is lower than ours, significantly lower. They are closer to 50% penetration, their average rate per policy is a fair amount lower than ours also.

Ryan Burke
Analyst, Green Street Advisors

Okay. How long do you think it takes if your same store penetration rate is in the 70% range, say, how long does it take to get that up there?

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

We think it'll be one to two years to get it up to our penetration level. Just because we're not going to bother the existing customers. We are going to do it as these units churn.

Ryan Burke
Analyst, Green Street Advisors

Sure. Okay, thanks. One quick one just on the balance sheet. Can you update us on your thoughts on entering into an ATM program, and how likely you are to do so, and if so, how you plan to use it moving forward?

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

An ATM is obviously always a board decision. It's something that we are in discussions in today. It's something that we've talked about in the past quite often. It's very difficult to comment on their decision there.

Ryan Burke
Analyst, Green Street Advisors

Okay. Thank you.

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

Thanks, Ryan.

Operator

Thank you. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question at this time, please press the star then the number one key. Our next question comes from Jeremy Metz with UBS. You may begin.

Jeremy Metz
Analyst, UBS

Hey, guys. I'm on with Ross. Unless I missed it, I don't think you guys gave a July update yet. You finished the quarter with occupancy up about 240 basis points. I was just wondering kind of where occupancy stands today versus last year, same with street rates, and then just kind of bigger picture, you had realized rent growth of north of 6%. I guess, can this continue at this high level, or should we think about rate growth kind of settling back down to that 4%-5% range here?

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Jeremy, it's Spencer. For July, we're not giving specifics. What I can tell you is occupancy is holding, rates are holding. We'll have to see how the rest of the year plays out, but things are good.

Jeremy Metz
Analyst, UBS

Just so where were street rates then versus last year in 2Q?

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Kind of in the 7%-8% up.

Jeremy Metz
Analyst, UBS

Okay. Then I think Ross has a question.

Ross Nussbaum
Analyst, UBS

Yeah. Hey, guys. I got two questions. The first is on page 16 of your supplemental. When you show in the quarter that rentals were down 1% and vacates were up 1.2%, how should we think about that information? Obviously, it differs quite dramatically from what you're putting up on a same-store revenue and occupancy front. It kind of shows you had more people moving out than moving in. How should we think about that data relative to what's on the income statement?

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

Yeah, I think there's a couple of things to consider there, is you need to look at the rentals, but you also need to look at the vacates. Depending on where you are, rentals versus vacates and the difference between them, because certain times of year, you have significantly more rentals than you have vacates. What we focus on more than rentals and vacates, we view that when we look at this, we don't look at this just on a three-month or a six-month period. We look at rentals and vacates and see how they compare to the past six or seven years on average per property. Then we focus much more on the occupancy of the property.

Ross Nussbaum
Analyst, UBS

Okay. My second question is to you, Spencer, which is, I'm looking at my comp spreadsheet here, and I'm looking at a $4 billion company that trades at a 6% CAP rate. What's your appetite for public M&A? It seems like your appetite for private M&A at five handle valuations is pretty high. Why not look at some of your smaller peers?

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Our appetite really has nothing to do with they're public or private, Ross. It has a lot to do with does it make sense, and is it the right thing for our shareholders? If you look at the public environment, there's probably going to be a stiff premium affixed to that kind of transaction, and we are rational buyers.

Ross Nussbaum
Analyst, UBS

Okay. Appreciate that. Thank you.

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is a follow-up from Ki Bin Kim with SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. You may begin.

Ki Bin Kim
Analyst, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey

Yes. Thank you. Spencer, you definitely sound pretty bullish, and you have the results to back it up. Maybe it's a little premature, but we are past the halfway year mark. Looking ahead, and I'm not asking for guidance, but just looking ahead maybe 18 months or so, how should we think about some of your bullish comments, the really good results, and how that probably ties into kind of forward growth rates for your company in terms of same-store organic growth? Because it does seem like towards the end of every year, not just you, but all your companies start to become a little more conservative about the outlook.

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

If we look forward, I see things, Ki Bin, still being good. I don't know if we're going to be operating in the stratosphere, but I can tell you with no new supply and our ascendancy on the internet, I don't see anything that is disruptive barring a black swan event in the next 12 to 18 months. I am bullish, and this is an unprecedented market in which we're operating, and we're going to take every advantage to maximize the result. My crystal ball is no better than anyone's else, but I don't see anything that is likely to disrupt the operating environment in which we're currently operating, and I think you can expect to see really strong results.

Ki Bin Kim
Analyst, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey

Okay. Thanks for that color. This is just a comment, but I think half the companies in the sector report maintenance CapEx and half don't. I was just curious if you guys have any thoughts about maybe including that going forward just for comparability's sake. I'm sure that stat just makes you look better anyway.

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

Yeah, it's something we'll look at. It's not anything we've put out there yet. We have a pretty robust supplemental package, but it's something we'll consider.

Ki Bin Kim
Analyst, SunTrust Robinson Humphrey

All right. Thank you, guys.

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Thanks, Ki Bin.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Jonathan Hughes with Raymond James. Begin.

Jonathan Hughes
Analyst, Raymond James

Hey, good morning, guys. Most of my questions have been answered at this point, I had one follow-up. How aggressively do you plan to raise rates in the SmartStop portfolio once it closes in 4Q? I noticed that the rates are like 28% below EXR's overall rent per square foot. Maybe they don't get there right off the bat, I'm just curious as to the trajectory of how quickly you'll try to narrow that gap.

P. Scott Stubbs
EVP and CFO, Extra Space Storage

Yeah. We'll focus mainly on occupancy in the first year. We'll try to get their occupancy up to exactly where we are. The other thing I would caution you on is you can't just look straight at 20% because they may or may not compete directly with our properties. We'll aggressively move the occupancy, and then from there, we will aggressively move the rates to be in line with our existing stores who are in the same markets.

Jonathan Hughes
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. All right. That's it for me, guys. Thanks.

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I'm currently showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Spencer Kirk for closing remarks.

Spencer Kirk
CEO, Extra Space Storage

Thank you, everyone, for your interest in Extra Space today. We'll look forward to next quarter's call. Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thanks for your participation and have a wonderful day.