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Earnings Call: Q1 2022

Apr 28, 2022

Operator

Hello everybody and welcome to the First BanCorp first quarter 2022 financial results call. My name is Sam and I'll be coordinating your call today. If you would like to ask a question during the presentation, you may do so by pressing star followed by one on your telephone keypad. I'll now hand you over to your host, Ramon Rodriguez, Corporate Strategy and Investor Relations Officer to begin. Ramon, please go ahead.

Ramon Rodriguez
SVP of Corporate Strategy and Investor Relations, First BanCorp

Thank you, Sam. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining First BanCorp's conference call and webcast to discuss the company's financial results for the first quarter of 2022. Joining you today from First BanCorp are Aurelio Alemán, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Orlando Berges, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin today's call, it is my responsibility to inform you that this call may involve certain forward-looking statements, such as projections of revenue, earnings and capital structure, as well as statements on the plans and objectives of the company's business. The company's actual results could differ materially from the forward-looking statements made due to the important factors described in the company's latest SEC filings. The company assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements made during the call.

If anyone does not already have a copy of the webcast presentation or press release, you can access them at our website at fbpinvestor.com. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Aurelio Alemán.

Aurelio Alemán
President and CEO, First BanCorp

Thanks, Ramon, and good morning to everyone and thanks for joining our call today. Please let's move to slide four to discuss the highlights of the quarter. We are very, very pleased to begin 2022 on a high note with another record quarter of, I would say, exceptional results for the franchise. We generated $82.6 million in net income or $0.41 per share. I think more importantly, a record $111.8 million in adjusted pre-tax pre-provision income. We clearly see the benefits of scale of being a larger organization. Sequential increases in pre-tax pre-provision income over the last five quarters are attributed to our disciplined approach to execute and identify operational efficiencies related to the acquisition, but also additional business rationalization opportunities that were identified during that integration process.

I wanna congratulate and thank my teams for this consistent performance under what we can call, you know, a challenging operating cycle. Thanks to all my teams. Net interest income was slightly up to $185.6 million, and the margin expanded by 20 basis points to 3.81%. Also it's clearly our economic backdrop continues to benefit credit performance as we can see in asset quality and stabilized asset quality and low delinquency rates. Obviously, you know, we could see an improved long-term economic outlook in Puerto Rico. That also prompted the recognition of a provision benefit of $13.8 million during the quarter. Asset quality as it continued to improve, non-performing assets decreased by $1.6 million to $156.5 million, primarily driven by the reduction in non-accrual residential mortgages.

The ratio of the ACL to loans and finance leases decreased to 2.21%. On the capital front, during the quarter, we continued to execute on our plan to return capital. We completed the 2021 approved share repurchase program by repurchasing 3.4 million shares of common stock, amounting to approximately $50 million. That basically completed the program that we announced back in April 2021. We ended the first quarter with a 17.7 common equity Tier 1 ratio, leaving ample room to execute on further capital deployment initiatives over the next quarter, which we will be discussed later in the call. Let's move to slide five to review, you know, some highlights on deposit and loan performance, please. I think finally, you know, we achieved some growth in the loan portfolio.

We've, you know, been looking after this for some time, you know, very, very positive on the way the pipelines are looking. Linked quarter growth marks an inflection point to the balance sheet as balances other than PPP loans were up by $85 million when compared to the fourth quarter. The growth was driven by $91 million increase in commercial, $88 million increase in consumer, and partially offset by $94 million decrease in the resi. Total originations were healthy, although a little bit lower than fourth quarter, primarily driven by, you know, the dollars of commercial refinancing and renewals that were completed this first quarter. We do expect loan growth to continue accelerating during the year. Again, loan pipelines are healthy, and they should begin and continue to close.

It's a combination of, you know, different projects, initiatives, acquisitions, including the government investment in disaster recovery flow of funds. I will have to say that loan portfolio balances are still impacted by excess liquidity. We still have pay downs and line utilizations are not at their top level. But on the other hand, loan originations are strong, and we continue centered on increasing both the consumer and commercial loan books. While we have mentioned before, we continue to focus on originating conforming residential mortgages and towards sustaining the size of the residential portfolio and originating gain on sale on the mortgage book. In terms of deposit, you know, deposit moves nicely excluding broker and government, the way we like to measure core, it raised an increase of $55 million during the quarter.

So Let's please move to slide six to cover some additional highlights. Definitely, you know, there is potential negative impact of global geopolitical conditions are in place. I think we all recognize that, such as, you know, increasing oil prices and what's gonna be the real impact of that. We see disruption of the supply chain, and we definitely see labor cost inflation. In spite of this, I will have to say that there's many economic levers supporting our growth outlook and objectives in our main market. In Puerto Rico, just to summarize, coincident economic indicators continue to improve and are above 2019 pre-pandemic levels. Labor market continues to pick up. Total employment reached its highest level in recent history during March through February, actually, but continued through March. The labor participation rate improved to 44.7% compared to 40% pre-pandemic.

The unemployment rate is reaching an all-time high every month. March reported a long time low, I'm sorry. March reported a 6.5% unemployment rate. I don't remember seeing this before. The economic activity in there, which is highly correlated to GMP, has already reached pre-pandemic levels. I think, importantly, we have mentioned this, and everybody's very aware, but the recent resolution of the government debt restructuring, you know, we believe will allow officials to shift resources and efforts towards the economic growth initiatives that are important.

There are still a large amount of obligated funds, as you can see publicly, and disaster relief funds that are pending to be dispersed, which, you know, definitely, hopefully, they continue to support the structural improvement needed in our environment, such as the very important and critical modernization of our energy grid. Also, I will have to say Puerto Rico continues to benefit from a high vaccination rate, which has led to an easing of COVID-related restrictions, and we have to say a full reopening of the economy. Sustained increase in retail, auto sales, home sales, both new and existing, is evidence of improved consumer confidence. Tourism remains very active with passenger activity at our main airport 3.2% above pre-pandemic levels. ADR for hotel rooms increasing, driven by higher occupancy rates.

Our view of improving demographic trends is supported by, you know, new residential housing construction and the important available tax incentive product that continue to attract investors to move into the island. As our top priorities, we continue to make progress on our omni-channel strategy and value proposition. During the quarter, we executed, actually a little bit ahead of time, some additional branch rationalization opportunities that were identified in the later part of the integration. These actually are supported by increased digital engagement, which moves some of the traffic off our brick-and-mortar channels. Digital engagement this quarter continued to grow with registered digital banking users increasing 5% linked quarter- by- quarter, now capturing over 42% of deposit transactions to digital and self-service channels. Most importantly, you know, we have a goal of launching a digital, you know, enhancement or product or service, you know, every quarter.

This quarter we launched our new mobile business digital application for all our small, medium, and large businesses, which they can, in the mobile device, they can add a functionality as remote deposit capture and other additional functionality. They will obviously can transact 24/7 in a very safe and reliable digital environment. We mentioned before, but you know, we're gonna continue you know with a sustained investment in additional digital functionalities through the year, and it's a very important to continue enhancing our omni-channel experience to our customers. Definitely the franchise continued to demonstrate the strength of the quarter's balance sheet and how we have been able to capitalize under this improving operating backdrop.

After concluding our 2022 capital planning process, we announced last night that we're very pleased to announce the approval of another $350 million share repurchase program to be executed over the next quarters at an increase of 20% to our quarterly common dividend. We're extremely committed to preserving shareholder value, investing in our franchise, and improving our competitive positions in the markets we serve, and we see the opportunities to continue in that path. Now I will turn the call over to Orlando for more detail on our financial results.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Good morning, everyone. As Aurelio mentioned, we had a very strong quarter. As you saw in the release, earnings reached $82.6 million, $0.41 a share, which compares to $73.6 million last quarter, or $0.36 a share. Looking at the specifics, the quarter showed improvements of $1.5 million in net interest income, $2.5 million in other income, and expenses were $4.8 million lower than last quarter. I will touch on those in more detail in the next few slides.

Going to the provision for the quarter was in a benefit of $13.8 million. Similar to the $12.2 million benefit we had in the fourth quarter of 2021, driven by the outlook, the positive outlook on the macroeconomic variables, both actual and unexpected, even within the uncertainties going on the war on Ukraine and some of these impacts as they relate to the qualitative factors that we have on the reserves. Pre-tax, pre-provision, again, really strong at $111.8 million, $7 million higher than last quarter. We're very strong result for the quarter.

When looking at specific components, the net interest income for the quarter was $185.6 million. We grew $1.5 million, and margin expanded by 20 basis points to 3.81%. The quarter shows increases in interest income on investment securities, a combination of the reinvestment yields which have improved, and we've seen significant reductions in prepayments on the existing portfolio, which entailed lower premium amortizations for the quarter. The overall yield on cash and investments increased 22 basis points. Part of it, obviously the money market and cash, it's lower as we have to use it for other purposes.

You know, the cost of interest-bearing liabilities improved 5 basis points, and that's part of where we used the cash. We had higher cost repos that matured during the quarter, and we had some advances, FHLB advances that matured at the end of last quarter and they were not renewed, therefore resulting in reductions in some of the expense components, the interest expense components. The quarter also, a couple of things. The quarter had two days less than last quarter. That means about $2.4 million impact on net interest income. On the other hand, we had part of it compensated by collection of $1.1 million on non-accrual loan that was paid off.

Going forward, we still see some margin pickup that is gonna come from the repricing of variable rate loans. A number of those loans reprice at the beginning of each quarter. Some of the largest impact that happened towards the end of the quarter, we'll see on the repricing happening now in April and early May. And we also obviously expect some higher reinvestment yields from the normal cash flows coming back from the portfolio on the agency paper we have. Deposit pricing on the market, as we have discussed in the past, will happen at a lower, at a slower pace than the loan price repricing.

The way we see it will depend a bit on the number and speed of future interest rate hikes, which could speed a bit the betas that we have seen in the market in the past. In the non-interest income, it was very much in line with last quarter, except that we collected $3 million on seasonal continuing insurance commission this quarter. It happens every first quarter of the year based on prior year volumes. The one thing we have seen is that refinancing, mortgage refinancings have come down. That component of the package and selling, it's mostly on new purchases that are happening in the market.

Expenses with which I know you have asked a lot about it, and it's been one of the main focus. Expenses were almost $107 million- $106.7 million, compared to $111 million last quarter. Last quarter, we had $1.9 million in merger and integration expenses that we didn't have any this quarter. If we exclude these items, the expenses for the quarter were $2.9 million lower than the fourth quarter of 2021. We have continued to work on maximizing the efficiencies after completing the integration of the acquired operations, and in fact, have identified some additional opportunities. However, expenses in reality for the quarter were lower than anticipated.

Some of the main factors that we continue to run at a higher level of vacancies, again, driven by post-pandemic labor market dynamics. Last January, we mentioned that we had seen some improvements in hiring trends, but in reality, it was not sustained throughout the quarter, leaving us with still a reasonably high level of vacancies, as compared to normal operating environment. Disposition of value of OREO properties continues to offset OREO-related operating expenses. We had a $720,000 gain in OREO, lower than last quarter, but still a gain, which traditionally is not something that we have seen.

We expect that eventually we will revert back to more of a normalized cost of handling repossessed properties. Business promotion for the quarter was $2.3 million lower than last quarter. It's a lot with seasonality and timing of marketing campaigns and sponsorships. We'll see some variability from quarter to quarter depending on our marketing strategies going on. Also, this quarter, we received $1 million in credit card network expense reimbursements based on last year volumes that offset some of the credit card costs for the quarter. Lastly, but not small, what we have seen, it's with all the global supply chain dislocations and the timing of.

The timing of being able to obtain what's needed for the different facilities construction and some of the information technology projects, the expense impact from some of these strategies, it's delayed. We continue with many of these projects, as Aurelio mentioned, but we have seen some delays on that, so that would have some impact on the timing of those expenses. In general, we believe that some of these factors will continue to persist through 2022. In addition, we have been identifying other efficiencies, as I mentioned before, that are being implemented. This quarter, we closed three branches. We see that there are some opportunities on three others that we probably gonna be acting on towards the end of the year. Those are additional opportunities.

As a result, we feel that normalized expense levels we have been talking to you about, we're revising that to a level of about $114 million-$160 million range, with the second quarter being lower, slightly lower than that because of the timing of some of these efforts that I previously mentioned. The efficiency ratio for the quarter, as you saw, was pretty low. It was 48.8%, lower than obviously what we anticipated. And looking at this ratio based on the normalized expense levels we're now seeing, we expect the efficiency ratio would be more at the 52% range than what in the past we have talked about 55%. Aurelio touched upon asset quality, but asset quality trends continue to be positive.

Non-performing assets decreased $1.6 million, and it represents now 0.79% of total assets. NPA reduction was mostly on the residential mortgage side. That came down by $6.3 million. That includes full repayment of old non-performing of $1.3 million. However, we did see some increase in inflows of NPLs reaching $21.6 million this quarter compared to $15 million last quarter. The increase mostly related to two commercial loan migrations, which were about $4 million.

The other ones, we have seen some migration on the consumer side, but if you keep in mind that our portfolio is significantly higher than what it used to be percentage-wise, migration continues to be very much at better pace than what we had in the past. Early delinquency, meaning loans 30-89 days, increased $10 million in the quarter. In reality, it's all related to $17.2 million in loans that mature in the quarter, are in the process of being renewed, commercial loans specifically. These loans are current as to principal and interest, so it's not an issue of delinquency, but we do put it as past due once they reach maturity.

On the residential and consumer portfolios, we saw reductions in early delinquency as compared to last quarter. Aurelio also touched on the allowance, but the allowance for the quarter was $260 million, which is $20 million down from last quarter. On loans, the allowance on loans was $245 million, which is down $24 million. Reduction, again, as I mentioned, it's improvement trends that we continue to see on actual and projected macroeconomic variables, and the impact those variables have on some of the qualitative reserves we have. The ratio of the allowance to loans, it's 2.2%, compared to 2.5% what we had last quarter. On the capital front,an important subject, we continue with the execution of our plan.

As you saw in the release, we completed the $50 million pending from the $300 million plan. We repurchased 3.4 million shares. And we also paid $19.9 million in dividends. Even with the execution of the strategies, the strong earnings are maintaining our capital ratio significantly above well-capitalized. As you can see in the chart, Tier 1, as an example, Tier 1 common equity ratio only decreased 1 basis point from December. It's from 17.8% to 17.7%, still pretty significant. During the quarter, we did have an impact on tangible book value of common share, which decreased from $10.07 at the end of 2021 to $8.63.

decrease is related to the $50 million in repurchases, but more important, $30 million-$332 million adjustment to other comprehensive loss, resulting from the decrease in fair value of the available-for-sale securities based on market interest rates. You know, the OCI impact will reverse over time, since we have the intent and, more important than anything, based on the strong liquidity position we have, we have the ability to hold these securities to maturity. So we're not seeing that as an immediate risk. We feel that at the end, the risk and the economics are the same no matter how you look at it and where things set.

Lastly, but not less important, we continue with the execution of the approved deployment, capital deployment strategies. We announced a couple of significant ones at last night as you saw. Aurelio mentioned the new repurchase plan, as well as an increase in the common dividend starting this quarter. With that, I would like to open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. If you change your mind, please press star followed by two. When preparing to ask your question, please ensure your line is unmuted locally. Our first question comes from Brett Rabatin from Hovde Group. Brett, your line is now open. Please go ahead with your question.

Brett Rabatin
Managing Director and Head of Equity Research, Hovde Group

Hey, good morning, everyone.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Good morning, Brett.

Brett Rabatin
Managing Director and Head of Equity Research, Hovde Group

Wanted to first ask, you know, just thinking about the loan origination trend versus the expectation for loan growth. I think if I got it right, that you're expecting loan growth to improve a little bit from here. Can you talk maybe about the loan origination trends? You know, they were a little bit lower year-over-year and quarter-over-quarter, but it sounds like you're pretty bullish on the economy. Maybe just some thoughts on the loan growth outlook and what segments you see growing and how you see the pipeline trending through the year?

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Yeah. Obviously, I think just to make sure, the way we report, you know, on page 6 of the deck, I think it is 5, I'm sorry. Obviously, you can see the trends. The consumer segment, you know, obviously has continued to show increase over the last, if you look at those 5 quarters. I think when you look at the commercial, there's a timing matter of the renewals, which is embedded in this number. But if we compare, you know, quarter to quarter, linked quarter, last year quarter, first quarter versus this year quarter, first quarter, obviously new money is higher. We expect, you know, the construction portfolio to increase.

You know, we actually been very surprised that we continue to make more construction loans, but they are repaid fairly quickly in terms of the resi side because of the absorption. We do have, you know, a better pipeline if I compare this year to last year on both commercial and construction. And we have, you know, the volume of applications and incoming applications across the consumer businesses are also higher. Obviously on the mortgage business, that's not the case on the resi mortgage because of the rate environment, refinancing is lower, so we also expressed that that portfolio would continue to subside. On the other hand, we have less PPP loans remaining on the book.

So and we expect as liquidity moves on, that some of the usage of the credit lines inventory also contribute to some increase in the loan portfolio.

Brett Rabatin
Managing Director and Head of Equity Research, Hovde Group

Okay. That's helpful. Appreciate that. And then wanted to make sure, you know, there's some moving pieces, obviously, with the margin. You know, you had less premium that benefited the securities portfolio on lower government deposits. Wanted to make sure, I guess from a static perspective, your filing is gonna indicate 4%, in NII side with 200 basis points. Wanted to make sure I understood sort of the outlook on the margin, you know, and what you might do to optimize the balance sheet from here. Would seem like you indicate the margin should move higher. I guess I'm just trying to get a sense of the moving pieces and the magnitude of the increase from here.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Okay. The component, the commercial lending component, there is a floating side of it. We have a good chunk of the commercial portfolio that floats with LIBOR or prime. Most of it's based on three-month LIBOR. The three-month LIBOR component, typically not all of it, but typically, reprices at the beginning of each quarter. The largest chunk of the improvement, it's gonna happen now in April, as compared to what happened in January with the increases that we had in there. That's gonna give us some pickup on the commercial side, tied to LIBOR, so t hat's one component.

We are seeing reinvestment yields on the investment portfolio at a much better rates as you have all seen in the market. That allows us to reinvest the cash flows that come in from normal repayments of the agency paper that it's a CMO-type paper that pays some cash flow, monthly cash flows, to be reinvested at better rates. We continue to, as I mentioned, all the longer term debt like FHLB advances and repo we're not renewing those. Those were higher rates. You know, it's becoming a smaller chunk of the portfolio, so it has less impact, but still that is there. At the end, we had a significant amount of cash. You probably saw that cash came down.

Part of it is because of the auctions on the long-term borrowings, but part of it is also some of the government deposits that left, so we use cash on those deposits. In reality, some securities that were pledged as collateral became available. That's lower-yielding assets that now change to the mix of interest-earning assets. On the deposit side, what happened, Brett, it's we obviously the market, we don't see the market moving as fast. We have seen some credit unions move, and we feel that what we're anticipating is some behavior changes back to what they were before.

Meaning, there were significant movements in 2021 on time deposit maturities that people moved into either one month time deposit, something we rarely saw before, or into transaction accounts that it's gonna come back into some of these term deposits, rates change on the deposits. Those, you know, it's on two different sides, but the net effect of all that we expect some pickup on the margin still going forward.

Brett Rabatin
Managing Director and Head of Equity Research, Hovde Group

Okay. That's helpful, Orlando. Then wanted to make sure I understood. You know, you revised the guidance. I heard it right, $114 million-$116 million, with it being a little lower than that, you know, in the second quarter. What components pick up from here? You know, what spending do you need to do. Just trying to get a better flavor for, you know, the Puerto Rican banks and for, you know, in general, have had lower expenses in their guidance. You know, I think a part of that might be that you wanna make some hires and spend some money on business promotion that was seasonally low in the first quarter, but wanted to make sure I understood the components of the increase from here.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Yeah. You mentioned one which is very important. It's on the compensation side, the salary expense is lower than we had anticipated because of the level of vacancies. We continue to push to hire some of those positions. We feel that a long-term impact of that is gonna reflect on service. We don't want that happening. We're pushing. But there are some market realities. There is also, you know, salary adjustments that are being contemplated as part of the plan for the second half of the year based on, again, on dynamics in the market and what's happening out there in terms of hiring. So that complicates some of the expense components.

The other one that I think it's, you know, the OREO component. Typically you don't have a profit. We've been having profits because of the disposition values. Remember, those are properties that came in to OREOs at when prices were lower, therefore those values were lower. Now we're getting, you know, the recovery on those. The new things that are coming in when you go to appraise values are based on current value. You will see less of that, and still we have operating expenses, obviously on a much smaller portfolio, so expenses are also lower, which helps. We shouldn't see a profit going forward on the OREO side, as I said.

Marketing, it's one that you know, we have a few things going on that we're gonna be launching. Some of the expenses are related to some of those marketing strategies. That's why I say the number for the first quarter is lower than we anticipate on the next few quarters based on the marketing strategies we have outlined for the institution. The last component is, you know, we've been working on several projects. On the facility side, we have a large project of getting all the facilities to accommodate all of our people after integration. It's taken longer than we expected because of the availability of some of the materials for the remodeling and even getting the furniture in.

That has delayed some of the process and has delayed also obviously the impact on the expense side since we don't have it yet. We've seen some technology projects that also have some delays that we're expecting to start happening in the second half of the year. Those combined are the things that are creating the increase on the expense side. Clearly, we had originally provided a higher number of $117-$119 after, you know, integration and looking at all the components and what's been renegotiated on the contracts. We feel those expenses, combined with some of these difficulties in getting things done should be more on the $114-$116 range.

Those are the main reasons for the change from what we are. In reality, we were lower this quarter than we were anticipating originally.

Brett Rabatin
Managing Director and Head of Equity Research, Hovde Group

Okay. That's great color . Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you, Brett. Our next question comes from Ebrahim Poonawala from Bank of America. Ebrahim, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Ebrahim Poonawala
Managing Director and Head of North American Banks Research, Bank of America

Hey Orlando, good morning.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Good morning, Ebrahim.

Ebrahim Poonawala
Managing Director and Head of North American Banks Research, Bank of America

Just wanted to follow up on asset sensitivity. I heard you in terms of you mentioned the margins should benefit. If I heard you correctly, your loans tend to reprice at the end of the quarter. I'm looking at your asset sensitivity in the 10-K, positive 200 basis points ramp is about 5% NII upside. I'm not sure if I missed it, but give us a sense of if you get 100 basis points of hikes from the Fed in May and June, whether the margin set to the 20 basis points of expansion, more or less. Would appreciate any kind of color or framework that you can provide?

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Yeah, we have not provided that. I know that some institutions have said, but you know, my concern with that, Ebrahim, I can tell you a number which is based on everything else being equal and not changing, when in reality, I'm expecting some change in behaviors on some of the deposit repricing components. When you see that number of the 5% that you make reference to on the 10-K at December thirty-first, that included some of that impact on repricing. It's a combination of the two. That's why I'm saying it all depends on if rates move slower, the repricing component that I'm assuming for deposits, it's gonna happen at much slower pace.

That's why we haven't been providing that kind of indication that you're mentioning. We have stuck to the overall component of the impact on net interest income, I'm sorry, as you saw on the 10-K.

Ebrahim Poonawala
Managing Director and Head of North American Banks Research, Bank of America

Got it. Remind me again, I get the public fund deposits decline this quarter. As we look out, do you still expect deposits to run off from here, or do you expect deposit growth?

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

On the government side, we still feel that there will be some usage. Remember that there are some large components that are related to, so we have funds from the Energy Authority that are related to the reconstruction. Eventually it's gonna be used. Some of the municipalities, we don't see that changing that much because it's all operational accounts, so it's a function of the economics of the municipalities. The funds that moved out related to the settlement of the debt, those are out already. We don't have anything else. On the government side, we do expect a little bit of reduction. On the customer side, we don't expect significant growth, but we don't expect reductions.

We feel it's gonna be fairly stable, on the core deposit side, meaning our retail and commercial customers.

Ebrahim Poonawala
Managing Director and Head of North American Banks Research, Bank of America

Okay. Non-government, relatively steady state and then. Understood. Just the final question around, as you think about, credit quality, and I heard what you said earlier, like, where do you see, how much more do we have before reserves bottom out? Just give us, remind us what the CECL day one was. I know it was, you know, some noise given the deal at the time. But what do you see as a steady-state reserve level? Is it 50 basis points lower from here or 20 basis points? Like, any thought perspective would be helpful.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

The reserves, you mean?

Ebrahim Poonawala
Managing Director and Head of North American Banks Research, Bank of America

Yep, the reserve ratio.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

The ratio. Yeah. The ratio, there is on slide 12, I don't know if you have it handy, but you can see what we had at adoption of CECL. It was 2.6% reserve at that time. Remember that, after that was before the transaction with Santander, and we did not acquire any non-performing assets on those loans, on those portfolios. So that helped the mix of what you have. You know, we have taken a number of the qualitative components. That's reserves coming down. I believe that now with loan growth, we should see some provisioning coming in in future quarters. Not much, but some provisioning.

Because on the other hand, the residential portfolio, which it's a longer-lived portfolio, entails a higher percentage of reserve typically, because of the life of the loan. We've seen reductions, and we expect to continue to see some reductions. Net, I would assume that percentage-wise, reserve, it's gonna come down a bit. Dollar-wise, we'll have some provisioning, but not at the levels we had back in, you know, 2019 or anything like that.

Ebrahim Poonawala
Managing Director and Head of North American Banks Research, Bank of America

Got it. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Thank you, Ebrahim. Our next question comes from Timur Braziler of Wells Fargo. Timur, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Timur Braziler
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Wells Fargo

Hi, good morning.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Hi, good morning.

Timur Braziler
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Wells Fargo

Maybe.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Good morning. How are you?

Timur Braziler
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Wells Fargo

Good, thank you. Just following up on the last line of questioning, looking at the commercial allowance levels, there was a pretty good reduction this quarter. I'm assuming that was all qualitative in nature. And is that largely why you're assuming kind of provisioning from here in a more stable allowance. And I guess, you know, how much more room is there on the commercial side, specifically for further qualitative adjustments down? Or could we actually see that reserve level on the commercial book increase if trends deteriorate more broadly speaking?

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Well, on your first comment, it's totally correct that, remember that, when you look at the composition, there were a number of modifications done on the CARES Act. There were a number of cases that during the pandemic had more arrears and all of that. Related to all those components, there were a number of qualitative reserves that we tied to the specific loan and to obviously the macroeconomic expectations that were used in the modeling. Clearly what we have seen is, you know, as time goes by, most of those loans have significantly improved their financial position.

They have been meeting every requirement we had as part of the modifications that were done or the extensions that were done. That's resulted in some of those reductions that you mentioned. That happened mostly on the CRE side more than anything. On the commercial side, you have some impact which is related to what could be the expectation on the impact of the Ukrainian war, if that were to last longer, a long event instead of a short event.

To answer your question on the commercial side, related to some of the old things, we feel that a qualitative component could come down if some of the issues associated with the economic impact of the conflict were to be eliminated in our modeling process. Otherwise, it's gonna be more of a volume related component. As Aurelio mentioned, we saw PPP loans come down significantly in the quarter or as a percentage of what we had outstanding. But those loans had basically no reserve at all as compared to new loans coming in which will go through the normal modeling process.

It's you know the improvements could come from those macroeconomic impacts that are at this point incorporated in the modeling associated with the conflict.

Timur Braziler
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay. That's good color. I appreciate that. Maybe switching to expenses, if I can ask a follow-up question on expenses maybe a little bit differently. How much of that $114-$116 updated guidance is dependent on new hiring versus kind of earmarked projects and earmarked spend that's more formulaic?

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Meaning from going from where we are to that point or the reduction on the guidance?

Timur Braziler
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Wells Fargo

No, going from where we are today to that low 114, how much of that is dependent on new hiring versus internal spend?

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

There is a combination of new hires and, remember it's a combination of new hires and what we expect is gonna happen with salary basis.

Aurelio Alemán
President and CEO, First BanCorp

Compensation adjustments.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Yeah, adjustments and merit and some other things. That would make up about half of it. The other component, the seasonality on the business promotion, it would make maybe $1.5 million of that. The other things will come from the projects.

Timur Braziler
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay. Okay, thanks for that. You know, you had mentioned the role that credit unions play on the island. I'm just wondering, you know, as we look at deposit betas and deposit pricing, is it the three banks and really Popular that's gonna be driving deposit costs on the island? Or do the credit unions have enough market share that they could accelerate maybe beta expectations above kind of how we're thinking about them?

Aurelio Alemán
President and CEO, First BanCorp

You know, the credit unions have about, you know, close between 8%-10% market share, so they are a player. There's some other credit unions that are federal that are not reported in that number, so they're also a player. You also have, you know, some digital banks that are active in the island. Even though they're a smaller player, they are a player when rates go up. You know, we take all that into consideration, but obviously the lead bank is in the driving seat when you look at the market share that they have. It is still, you know, I will say it's still a competitive environment. Obviously remember there is a lot of excess liquidity too, which comes into the equation.

We do expect in our Florida business that those rates will move at a faster rate. Rate increases on the deposit side will have faster rate, but not necessarily we expect that to be the case in Puerto Rico.

Timur Braziler
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Wells Fargo

Great. Thank you for the question.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

When we have seen them more active, it's been on the time deposit side, which they put out information in the market, like ads and things like that, so it creates some of the noise.

Aurelio Alemán
President and CEO, First BanCorp

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, Timo. Our next question comes from Alex Twerdahl of Piper Sandler. Alex, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Alex Twerdahl
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Hey, good morning, guys.

Aurelio Alemán
President and CEO, First BanCorp

Morning, Alex.

Alex Twerdahl
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

I was hoping, maybe Aurelio or Orlando, you could give us a little bit of commentary, you know, on some of the things that we might not be able to get exactly from looking at the jobs numbers, that you alluded to earlier. Specifically, you know, kind of how wage inflation might be impacting the median household income in Puerto Rico. I know you might not have specific numbers at your fingertips, but just kind of anecdotally, you know, what are you having to pay people today versus, you know, a couple of years ago? I'm just trying to sort of frame it in the context of obviously inflation is kind of a hot button topic everywhere.

You know, I've heard some concern over maybe, you know, just given that people in Puerto Rico make less money, that maybe inflation is a bigger deal down there, or the cost of oil or gas is a bigger deal. But I'm also under the impression they're making a lot more money than they used to. So I was hoping maybe you could sort of put some of that stuff into context for us.

Aurelio Alemán
President and CEO, First BanCorp

Yeah. You know, I think we have to use anecdotal data because there's no real data on the government side. Obviously, when you look at the unemployment rate and the labor participation going up, you know something is going up, something is going on, definitely for sure. When you look at more people hiring. Well, you know, obviously, remember we go back to living in a very prolonged recession. When the economy grows, there's always more competition in the job market, and that's what we're experiencing in Puerto Rico. You know, service centers, call centers, just to anecdotally, you take a call center staff, which all banks have. You know, at some point in time, we paid, three years ago, we were paying minimum salary.

Now we're probably paying 25% above or 30% above minimum salary. Those are the kind of numbers. Same thing happened with tellers at the branch, which are, you know, quite a large number of them in each bank still. That same thing happened. At the professional level, you know, we're probably 10, 15% up versus the two prior years. When Orlando mentioned that. Also remember, the stimulus improved the consumer position. I'm sure the per capita income of Puerto Rico, when we look at the number, you know, it's much higher.

At the end of the day, I think it's good for the economy that we personally think it's good for the people and the economy, that they might get paid more, that people make more money. Obviously, the purchase capacity of the consumer is improved. You know, I don't think anyone is overreacting. I think we're all managing the situation, you know, little by little on a protection basis. Think this can be adjusted, too.

At some point in time, you know, we have to wait the impact of the potential recession that is being discussed and the impact that we know it's gonna have on the oil costs in Puerto Rico and the energy costs. We have to be cautious and monitor every quarter and protect our, you know, our competitive positioning in how we pay. I don't think anyone is getting crazy. It's just managing the situation in a prudent manner.

Alex Twerdahl
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

That's.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

I mean, remember that minimum salary went up 10% starting January, just the basic minimum salary. In reality, you know, many entities are ending up paying higher than minimum salaries on those positions.

Alex Twerdahl
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Great. That's great color. Thank you.

Aurelio Alemán
President and CEO, First BanCorp

But on the-

Alex Twerdahl
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Um, and then-

Aurelio Alemán
President and CEO, First BanCorp

On the other hand, Alex, remember, you know, I think we are seeing in our case, we're seeing the benefit of larger scale. We did a very deep dive on our operations. We did for the integration a truly deep dive productivity exercise in every function that took, you know, more than a year and a half to execute. We had identified opportunities. You know, not many banks are showing the 52, the 48% efficiency ratio and saying that 52 is probably the more normalized scenario. I think that we're trying to be prudent and also, you know, obviously very focused on being efficient too.

Alex Twerdahl
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Yeah. Right. As you kind of talk about your loan growth and outlook commentary, and you also alluded to some of the federal money, you know, stemming from Hurricane Maria that you're starting to see flow a little bit, do you have a line of sight on any bigger projects that might be coming online later this year? I know that, in the past you've talked about some of the programs and the applications that your customers have filed, waiting on government approval. I was just wondering if you could give us any sort of update, you know, to kind of help us understand when some of those projects might actually start to come online.

Aurelio Alemán
President and CEO, First BanCorp

Yeah. We, you know, the IPED program, which is the name the government gave to the program, is in the later stage of underwriting. We expect some of these projects to be announced in the third quarter. We are participating-

Alex Twerdahl
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay.

Aurelio Alemán
President and CEO, First BanCorp

In some of those as they, you know, some of them will get, you know, the benefit of the projects or not. You know, most of these projects, it could happen, you know, either case with the benefit or without the benefit. Yes, there are, you know, construction projects related to, you know, hotels or, you know, residential development or even improved office space or, you know, development centers that could come into play. Some of them are also infrastructure related.

Alex Twerdahl
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. As I think through the $350 million buyback that you guys authorized last night, is there an expectation on the cadence? I know it's kind of over the course of four quarters, but could you sort of frame the ranges that you potentially could do in any given quarter?

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

You know, I think we're gonna be opportunistic on it. You know, let's see how things move. You know, we have not disclosed a specific, you know, execution plan, but, you know, we will do that at a later stage.

Alex Twerdahl
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. I'm sorry, did I cut you off? Were you gonna have a follow comment on the last question?

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

No, no.

Alex Twerdahl
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay, good. All right. Well, thank you for taking my questions.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Thank you, Alex Twerdahl.

Operator

Thank you, Alex. Our final question of today comes from Kelly Motta of KBW. Kelly, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Kelly Motta
Director and Senior Research Analyst, KBW

Hi, good morning. Thanks for the question.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Welcome to the call, Kelly.

Kelly Motta
Director and Senior Research Analyst, KBW

Very happy to be joining. Most of mine have been asked and answered already, circling back to the discussion of credit, you obviously had a large release and things have been really looking up in Puerto Rico, and charge-offs have been really insignificant. Just wondering if you guys have a sense of, sort of over the intermediate term, what a normalized level of charge-off could look like for you guys. I know there's some release, some reserve releases, but also wanted to discuss more on kind of the loan loss component of that when thinking about the provision.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

I mean, at this stage, meaning 2022, I frankly don't see significant changes on the current trends of charge-offs. We're not seeing that. You know, remember that this is at the end stage of what happens with early delinquency, migration of loans, you know, risk classifications and all of that. That has been really consistent. You know, some of the increases we're seeing, it's there is always gonna be some charge-off at the end on the consumer portfolios. That's typical of the industry. Percentage-wise, it's small. Dollars have increased a bit because of the size of the consumer portfolio. But we don't see anything that it's gonna take us to a significantly higher number.

If you look at way back, you know, you wouldn't see on commercial side more than 50 basis points in charge-offs. Mortgage in the Puerto Rico market, at a point in time, if you hit 10 basis points was a lot. At this stage, I don't see why the numbers are gonna change, you know, for 2022 or the near term.

Aurelio Alemán
President and CEO, First BanCorp

I think we have, you know, leading indicators that will help us answer that question as we continue to move forward. Right now, delinquencies are at the lowest we have it for some time. We did mention, I think in the prior quarter call, we mentioned that we were expecting a liquidity run-off on the consumer after the stimulus, that some impact will have on the delinquencies or even the inflows. We haven't seen that yet, but because, you know, stimulus continue to flow and unemployment is better, so it's supported by, you know, economic indicators that are the backdrop. So that.

I think we have plenty, you know, leading indicators the way we monitor the portfolio to help us, you know, raise that flag if that would be the case. Yeah.

Kelly Motta
Director and Senior Research Analyst, KBW

Got it. That's really helpful. I appreciate all the color. If I could, I wanted to ask a kind of nitpicky question on the 52% efficiency guidance. I appreciate your conservatism there and that you're taking your expense, you know, up from where they are here 'cause of the issues you discussed. If I just take the high end, so $116 million over your FTE NII and fees, I have you between 51% and 52%. Is that efficiency guidance on an FTE basis, or should I be using GAAP NII? I'm just struggling to see how you can get to 52% even increasing expenses 'cause I'm

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

It's based on.

Kelly Motta
Director and Senior Research Analyst, KBW

Presumably NII will expand. Yeah.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Yeah. It's based on GAAP NII, not on.

Kelly Motta
Director and Senior Research Analyst, KBW

Got it.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

FTE NII. Yeah.

Kelly Motta
Director and Senior Research Analyst, KBW

Okay. I think that's really helpful. Well, all my questions have mostly been asked and answered. I appreciate the time today, and thanks again for letting me join the call.

Aurelio Alemán
President and CEO, First BanCorp

Thank you, Kelly.

Orlando Berges
EVP and CFO, First BanCorp

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, Kelly. There are no further questions. We would like to thank everyone for participating in today's call. This now concludes today's call. Thank you again for joining. You may now disconnect your line.

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