Hanmi Financial Corporation (HAFC)
NASDAQ: HAFC · Real-Time Price · USD
29.99
+0.24 (0.81%)
Apr 24, 2026, 2:37 PM EDT - Market open
← View all transcripts

Earnings Call: Q1 2023

Apr 25, 2023

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Hanmi Financial Corporation's first quarter 2023 conference call. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded for replay purposes. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star 0 on your telephone keypad. I would now like to turn the call over to Larry Clark, Investor Relations for the company. Please go ahead.

Larry Clark
Investor Relations, Financial Profiles

Thank you, Doug, and thank you all for joining us today to discuss Hanmi's first quarter 2023 financial results. This afternoon, Hanmi issued its earning release and quarterly supplemental slide presentation to accompany today's call. Both documents are available in the IR section of the company's website. I'm here today with Bonnie Lee, President and Chief Executive Officer of Hanmi Financial Corporation, Anthony Kim, Chief Banking Officer, and Ron Santarosa, Chief Financial Officer. Bonnie will begin today's call with an overview. Anthony will discuss loan and deposit activities. Ron will provide details on our financial performance. Bonnie will provide closing comments before we open the call up to your questions. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that today's comments may include forward-looking statements under the federal securities laws.

Forward-looking statements are based on current plans, expectations, events, and financial industry trends that may affect the company's future operating results and financial position. Our actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by our forward-looking statements, which involve risks and uncertainties. Discussions of the factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements can be found in our SEC filings, including our reports on Forms 10-K and 10-Q. In particular, we direct you to the discussion of certain risk factors affecting our business contained in our earnings release and our investor presentation and in our Form 10-K. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Bonnie Lee. Bonnie, please go ahead.

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Thank you, Larry. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our first quarter results. Hanmi delivered strong financial results in the first quarter of 2023, even in the face of a continued rising interest rates, economic uncertainty, and a highly volatile banking environment. We believe these results are a testament to the strength of our relationship banking model and our team's consistent execution. I am pleased to report that we delivered 6% year-over-year growth in net income of $22 million or $0.72 per diluted share, all while maintaining high levels of liquidity, being selective on new loan originations, and exercising disciplined expense management. We added net new customers during the quarter, which led to a sequential growth in deposits. This reflects our disciplined execution of new business initiatives and the strength of our relationships in the communities we serve.

As anticipated, loan production moderated during the quarter. We were still able to grow our loan portfolio with the new production outpacing payoffs, pay downs, amortization as we maintain our disciplined underwriting standards. Importantly, our overall asset quality metrics remain excellent. We continue to focus on high-quality loans, disciplined underwriting, and vigilant credit administration practices. Other highlights for the quarter include the following. Loan balances grew to $6 billion at quarter end, up nearly 1% on an annualized basis. First quarter loan production was $304 million with an attractive weighted average interest rate of 7.19%. Deposits increased 2% on an annualized basis from year-end 2022 to $6.2 billion. We are proud of the robust deposit franchise that we have built over four decades with a consistent focus on pursuing new customers and expanding our existing relationships.

Non-interest bearing deposit remained high at 38% of the deposit portfolio at quarter end. We continue to exercise disciplined expense management, leading to a 3% decline in non-interest expense quarter-over-quarter. Our overall asset quality metrics are excellent as non-performing assets to total assets remained low at 27 basis points. We generated a return on average assets of 1.21% and a return on average equity of 12.19%. We also improved upon our already strong capital levels with a total risk-based capital at 14.8% and a tangible common equity ratio of 8.77%. Turning to our strategic initiatives, our residential mortgage production was a solid $97.2 million, even in a challenging mortgage market.

We attribute this success to the strong relationships we have established with our corresponding lending partners over the past couple of years. While we experienced some deposit outflows from our Corporate Korea customers in mid-March, we gained new Corporate Korea customers during the quarter that offset those outflows. During the quarter, we remained focused on what we do best, serving our customers and helping them to manage through challenging times. For much of 2022 and continuing into 2023, we stepped up direct communication with our customers to better understand the impact of shifting economic factors on their businesses and to identify solutions to meet their evolving banking needs. As industry events were unfolding in March, we doubled our customer outreach efforts.

While our intent was to assure customers that our bank was in a very strong financial condition. I was especially moved as some of our customers asked me what they could do for us. This response is truly an example of the deep relationships we have built over the years. We continue to look for new opportunities to grow and expand our franchise. For example, we are targeting to open a new branch in the East Bay region of San Francisco in the fourth quarter of this year. This move will enable us to serve growing client demand in this vibrant regional submarket. Of course, we will continue to explore opportunities to further optimize our footprint in key markets across the United States.

In summary, I am grateful to our team of highly skilled bankers who work tirelessly to build and maintain the trusted banking relationship with our customers, which is the hallmark of the Hanmi Bank brand. With that, I'll turn the call to our Chief Banking Officer, Anthony Kim, to discuss first quarter loan production and deposit gathering in more detail.

Anthony Kim
Chief Banking Officer, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Thank you, Bonnie. I'll begin with the additional details on our loan production. First quarter production was $304 million, down 36% from the fourth quarter. As Bonnie noted, reflects the current environment of higher interest rates and economic uncertainty. In addition, we are being more selective on the loans that we approve and have passed on a number of opportunities this quarter, as we will not sacrifice credit quality in order to achieve loan growth. I'll note that our residential mortgage production, while down in the first quarter as expected, was still quite strong at $97 million, which was up $36 million from the first quarter of 2022. Our focus remains on the non-QM market. Our correspondent lenders in this market continue to be active. A large portion of our production was for home purchases rather than refinances.

C&I funding was down in the first quarter, where we funded $27 million in loan balances. Historically, C&I fundings are seasonally lower in the first quarter. We also believe that the slowdown this quarter also has to do with our customers being more cautious. Total commitments on our commercial lines of credit for the quarter were $1.05 billion, up slightly from year-end. Outstanding balances on these lines decreased by 3.6% between quarters, resulting in a first quarter utilization rate of 38%, down from 40% in the fourth quarter. SBA 7(a) loan production was $34 million for the first quarter, lower than our long-term target. Once again, we are being very selective about the new loans that we are willing to make.

Our team of business development officers is doing a great job, and we are well-positioned to continue to serve this key market. With respect to our Corporate Korea initiative, loan production declined modestly in the first quarter, as many of our customers are being cautious in this uncertain economic environment. Our Corporate Korea portfolio remains well above the level we had planned for at this stage, as loan balances were $764 million at quarter end, representing nearly 13% of our total loan portfolio and up just over $100 million from this time last year. The average rate on all new loan production for the first quarter was 7.19%, up 34 basis points from the fourth quarter. Payoffs were $125 million for the quarter, up slightly from $121 million for the prior quarter.

The average rate on loan payoffs was 7.27%, up 100 basis points from our fourth quarter payoffs. Our total loan portfolio grew slightly in the first quarter as our $304 million in new production exceeded our total payoffs, amortization, and paydowns. Turning to deposits. As Bonnie mentioned, we grew our deposits by $33 million in the quarter, up 2% on an annualized basis. We are pleased with this result, given all of the volatility created by the turmoil in the banking sector. We estimate that we experienced deposit outflows of about 1% of our total deposits. Importantly, however, deposits were still up from fourth quarter levels.

Given the higher interest rate environment, we do continue to see a shift in the composition of our deposits during the quarter, as some deposits in checking, money market, and saving accounts moved into time deposits. Non-interest-bearing DDAs represented 38% of our total deposits at quarter end, which we believe validates our strong customer service and local market relationships. In addition to mix shift in deposits, we saw renewed interest in deposit insurance programs that we affect on a reciprocal basis. Reciprocal time deposits, also known as CDARS, were $67 million at the end of first quarter, and we recently launched a deposit sweep program, also known as ICS. We are very pleased and grateful that our customers chose to stay and bank with Hanmi.

Now I'll hand the call over to Ron Santarosa , our Chief Financial Officer, for more details on our fourth quarter financial results.

Ron Santarosa
CFO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Thank you, Anthony. Let's begin with net interest income, which was $57.9 million for the quarter and down $6.7 million from the fourth quarter.

The decline here was primarily due to the increase in the cost of our interest-bearing deposits. The cost of interest-bearing deposits rose 103 basis points to 2.73%. While the Fed did raise their rate 50 basis points during the first quarter, modest as measured against the 425 basis point increase for 2022, we believe our deposit interest expense now better reflects the current interest rate environment as well as renewed depositor interest in time deposits. Our cycle to date interest bearing deposit beta was approximately 56%. Loan yields for the first quarter, aided by new loan production at 7.19%, rose 30 basis points to 5.51%. Turning to our net interest margin, it too declined from the prior quarter 39 basis points to 3.28%.

The increase in the cost of interest bearing deposits contributed 60 basis points to this decline, while the increase in loan yields offset that effect by 21 basis points. When we met to discuss our 2022 third quarter results, I noted that the cost of our interest bearing deposits for October were about 45 basis points higher than the third quarter average. When we met to discuss our 2022 fourth quarter results, I noted that the cost of our interest bearing deposits for January were about 70 basis points higher than the fourth quarter average. Today, the cost of our interest bearing deposit is about 35 basis points higher than the first quarter average. The rate of change is slowing. I will also note the mix shift in our deposit portfolio.

At the start of the cycle, time deposits were 16% of the portfolio while non-interest bearing demand deposits were at 46%. At the end of the first quarter, time deposits were 38% of the portfolio and non-interest bearing demand deposits were the same at 38%. Altogether, even though this rising rate cycle may yet to peak, it appears that most of the heavy lift into the current environment has occurred. Moving on. Non-interest income was $8.3 million for the first quarter, up from $7.5 million for the prior quarter. The increase essentially reflecting loan customer interest rate swap fees and the absence of the fourth quarter valuation adjustment on bank-owned life insurance.

Encouraging, while the volume of SBA loans sold during the first quarter declined, we did see a notable increase in the trade premiums rising to an average of 7.85% for the quarter. Non-interest expense was $32.8 million, down $1 million from the fourth quarter. Here we saw lower professional fees, a recovery of the fourth quarter valuation adjustment to servicing assets, and a recovery of ORE and repossessed personal property expenses. Non-interest expenses as a percentage of average assets or as a function of revenues, the efficiency ratio remained in favorable ranges. Credit loss expense for the first quarter was $2.1 million and included a positive loan loss provision of $2.2 million and a $100,000 negative provision for off balance sheet items.

The allowance for credit losses increased to $72.2 million, or 1.1% of loans, up 1 basis point from year end. Net charge offs to average loans were annualized 10 basis points for the first quarter and reflect a larger contribution from our equipment finance portfolio. Delinquencies remained low, with the quarter end uptick being resolved early this quarter. Classified loans remained low and non-accrual loans saw a $10 million addition of a healthcare industry loan with a specific allowance of $2.5 million. Overall, we believe our asset quality remains strong. Turning to funding liquidity and capital as Bonnie and Anthony have noted, our deposit base is solid with strong customer relationships and little reliance on broker deposits or wholesale funds. Personal and business customers equally represent our core franchise with 60% of these deposit liabilities enjoying FDIC insurance.

The ratio of loans to deposits remained essentially unchanged quarter-over-quarter at 96% and there has been no change in our FHLB borrowings. Our securities portfolio, all of which are available for sale and carried at current market values, provide a cushion of liquidity and when combined with our cash balances represent 17% of our deposits. The after-tax unrealized loss on our securities portfolio does reduce our capital position. However, for the first quarter we saw capital grow $24.7 million from a decline in those unrealized losses as well as from the quarterly contribution of earnings less dividends. Tangible book value per share increased 3.7% to $21.30 at March thirty-first 2023. Hanmi and the bank continue to exceed minimum regulatory capital requirements and the bank continues to exceed minimum ratios for the well capitalized category.

The Common Equity Tier 1 ratio for the company was 11.59% and 13.06% for the bank. With that, I will turn it back to Bonnie.

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Thank you, Ron. To conclude, we continue to have a strong balance sheet, ample liquidity and excellent capital ratios and are ready to serve the needs of our expanding client base. I am proud of the results our team delivered during the first quarter. We are seeing that customers remain sensitive to the interest rate environment and we expect the sensitivity will impact both deposits and loan production. That being said, our team is demonstrating the tremendous value that our customer relationships bring. We are also seeing the value that comes with a strong communication during these uncertain times. As we have said, we remain vigilant in our credit administration practices. We are committed to responsible and disciplined growth while maintaining our strong levels of credit quality.

We are focused on delivering attractive returns to our shareholders by serving the communities in which we operate and by developing our team here at Hanmi. Thank you. We'll now open the call for your questions. Operator, please open the line up to the questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, you may press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. Our first question comes from the line of Gary Tenner with D.A. Davidson. Please proceed with your question.

Gary Tenner
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Thanks. Good afternoon, everybody. Wanted to ask first about some of the deposit commentary, Ron. You said in your, in your comments that most of the heavy lifting in the current environment appears to be done. I'm curious about kind of the confidence in that from a deposit mix perspective. I mean, still up 38% non-interest-bearing DDA. If you go back, you know, which is down certainly year-over-year, but if you go down back to kind of entering the pandemic, Hanmi was at 30%. You know, I know that there's been structural changes at the bank, but what gives you the confidence, I guess, in saying the heavy lifting on that deposit side of things has been done or already reflected in the numbers?

Ron Santarosa
CFO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

What I was observing is the rate of change, Gary. In that implicit is that some of the assumptions with respect to composition, et cetera, remain relatively constant. In the similar fashion when we were on the upswing of the rate increases through 2020, you saw a very large rate of change going from first quarter to second quarter, and then it started to diminish, and then finally, you know, descend here in the first quarter. I think, again, the premise being that we're in the rate environment, we're kind of getting close to the end of the rate cycle. The composition stays relatively the same. You should start to see that rate of change diminish as you move out over the next few quarters.

Gary Tenner
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Okay. You weren't saying that, as we think forward then to the mix, you weren't suggesting that you thought the mix shift was completely done. Is that right?

Ron Santarosa
CFO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

No. We're seeing a decline in that mix shift, meaning that those individuals or those depositors that had, you know, a heavier tilt towards DDA have effectively moved their balances to run their DDA or operating accounts relative to savings and time. Most of that has occurred, so it's not as if there are a bevy of people who have yet to do that. Most of that has occurred. It doesn't mean it's done, but most of it has happened.

Gary Tenner
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Okay. I appreciate the clarification. Then I think you answered this question or perhaps, alluded to it, but, in terms of the increase in CD balances over the course of the quarter, about $400 million or so, was that primarily customer time deposits shifting, or did you add brokered, to the balances quarter?

Anthony Kim
Chief Banking Officer, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Yes. We've been tracking those deposit movement. Total out of total $424 million CD growth, approximately a little over 50% was the migration from DDA and others, other interest-bearing accounts.

Ron Santarosa
CFO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

With respect to broker deposits, Gary, I think we only have about $85 million or so left of 3-year money that was once 35 basis points. We're not adding to that portfolio.

Gary Tenner
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Okay, great. If I could ask one more question. You know, as it relates to the loan growth outlook for the year, you know, obviously, you know, modest growth this quarter, production level is quite a bit lower. Is there any, you know, as you think of visibility and pipeline, in the next couple of quarters at least, is this kind of pace of growth or production level what you might expect over the near term?

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

I mean, you know, we expect overall loan growth, at least the first half the year, you know, would moderate. Having said that, though, just comparing the, you know, the first quarter going into the first quarter, loan pipeline versus the, you know, beginning of the second quarter loan pipeline. Loan pipeline itself is up. You know, we see the increasing trend. However, as I had mentioned, we are very selective, in the deals that we chose to do and the pricing that we chose to do. We'll still have to see.

Gary Tenner
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Clark with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Thank you. Just on the margin, kind of drivers there. I think Ron, you mentioned the cost of interest-bearing deposits being up 35 basis points relative to the average in the quarter. Was that a spot rate, or was that, you know, the average in April so far? Just wanted to clarify that.

Ron Santarosa
CFO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

April to date.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. great. Then do you happen to have the average margin in March?

Ron Santarosa
CFO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

I'd have to look at, I think it's our slides in a footnote.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. I can find it then.

Ron Santarosa
CFO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Yeah. If you would. I said I don't have my glasses with me. I can't read it too well.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

I'm kind of going down that same path. In terms of deposit flows, any update, you know, through April, you know, to date? Any, I assume you know, there's seasonal outflows with taxes, but any, you know, you've seen additional inflows or outflows, that's maybe unrelated to taxes?

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

We haven't seen much of the, whether inflow or outflow, much of them other than our normal fluctuation.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. Okay. The new non-performer that I think $10 million that was added this quarter. Trying to find it in your deck. Can you give us a sense for, you know, what happened there, and the basis for the specific reserve?

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Sure. We believe it's a one-off, the case. It's actually a hospital loan that's beginning to go into reorganization. At this current time, you know, we based on the, you know, availability of the information and the progress that's in, you know, we provided the a specific reserve of $2.5 million for that loan.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. Just on capital, you know, it's building back here nicely, but we're also likely going into recession. Any update on the buyback or willingness to do that?

Ron Santarosa
CFO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Again, Matthew, as we've mentioned before, I think we'll be very patient with capital. It served us well through the upheaval that we experienced in 2022. I think so far it served us well for the little bit of upheaval for a different reason here in the first part of 2023.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Kelly Motta with KBW. Please proceed with your question.

Kelly Motta
Director of Equity Research, KBW

Hi. Good afternoon. I think maybe I'll circle back to the credit side of things. I really appreciate all the color you guys provide in your deck, about different asset classes. It, it looks like, from your disclosures, your office portfolio, so far is holding up very well. Where are you guys, most closely watching? Conversely, where are you seeing, still seeing really good risk-adjusted returns at this point, in the cycle? I know, Bonnie, you were being incredibly selective on the origination side.

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Yeah. I mean, you know, I think, in this given environment, it's not just the one sector. I think across the board, I think you have to be very cautious. We evaluate each credit at a time. Then we look at the merits of the credit, as well as the, you know, the pricing that we can get for. It's, it's not in a particular one specific industry or sector, but I think it's across the board.

Kelly Motta
Director of Equity Research, KBW

Okay. Understood. On the expense front, the release called out as an adjustment on the servicing asset that benefited expenses. Ron, do you have how large that was? Excluding that, is that a good go forward run rate for expenses? Any areas where you can manage, given that the revenue outlook is just more challenging in this rate environment?

Ron Santarosa
CFO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

I think the valuation adjustment was either 0.3 or 0.4, so $300,000 or $400,000. I don't remember which of the two. It just reversed itself because of the shift in the interest rate environment, especially the discount rate. You know, that, you know, can come back again depending on how the interest rate markets are when we value that particular portfolio, or it could be nonexistent for ever and a day. With respect to expenses, there's a little bit of variability that we get with OREO and repossessed personal property. I always kind of look at that before the expense because that one's very hard to predict if we are, you know, we get fortunate or something happens.

There the run rate's about $33 million. When I sit back and look at that, you know, we will have merit adjustments that go into effect here in the second quarter. you know, probably looking at about, you know, maybe a 5% increase to reflect at least that idea. you know, throw in the mix of other ideas that kind of move with inflationary pressures.

Kelly Motta
Director of Equity Research, KBW

Awesome. I appreciate the color. Thanks. Thanks, guys.

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Tim Coffey with Janney Montgomery Scott. Please proceed with your question.

Tim Coffey
Managing Director and Associate Director of Depository Research, Janney Montgomery Scott

Great. Thank you. Afternoon, everybody.

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Good afternoon.

Tim Coffey
Managing Director and Associate Director of Depository Research, Janney Montgomery Scott

Bonnie, afternoon. Yeah. You know, there was a comment made about the Corporate Korea clients and deposits. There was some outflow in deposits. I'm wondering, do those deposits move to other institutions into their deposit portfolios, or were those deposits moved out for investment purposes?

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Well, let's just give a one particular client. At very onset of the March tenth event date, you know, the client notified us that they're moving their deposit, but they said temporarily. So, you know, we hope to get that back. I would think that, you know, it depends on the customers, but mostly just being cautious. They wanted to kind of diversify their deposits to other institutions, mainly obviously larger institutions. Not so much into the for their investment or other purposes, but more of a temporary shelter type of deposit movement.

Tim Coffey
Managing Director and Associate Director of Depository Research, Janney Montgomery Scott

Okay. Do you know what the, how ready the balance is of deposit outflow from Corporate Korea clients in the quarter?

Anthony Kim
Chief Banking Officer, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Yeah, it's about a little less than $40 million from-

Tim Coffey
Managing Director and Associate Director of Depository Research, Janney Montgomery Scott

Okay.

Anthony Kim
Chief Banking Officer, Hanmi Financial Corporation

From maybe a handful of customers.

Tim Coffey
Managing Director and Associate Director of Depository Research, Janney Montgomery Scott

Okay. Okay, thank you. That's very helpful. Then, Bonnie, just looking at the totality of your customer base, Corporate Korea plus, legacy customers, have you seen a material change in their behavior since mid-March, since some of the banking stress came about?

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

You know, I have to say, within the first week of the event date of March tenth, there was a, you know, a little bit of a concerns expressed, and that's why we have really doubled the efforts of customer communication, reaching out to the customers. And I think that had subsided about, you know, about two weeks later. As we speak, I think that our customers clearly, you know, understand that the, you know, banks there were having challenges and Hanmi is a very different bank in terms of the customer base as well as the, you know, the loan and deposit competition of those customers.

Tim Coffey
Managing Director and Associate Director of Depository Research, Janney Montgomery Scott

Okay. All right. Great. Those are my questions. Thank you very much for your time.

Anthony Kim
Chief Banking Officer, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Okay.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jason Stewart with Jones Trading. Please proceed with your question.

Jason Stewart
Managing Director, Jones Trading

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to ask about two topics. Number one, how you feel the commercial real estate market is right now, just given where cap rates are. Two, where you think transition rates are moving on the non-QM portfolio.

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

In terms of a commercial real estate, I think in just the demands are down. I think, you know, given the environment as well as the increase in the interest rate, because most of the CRE customers, they would like to entertain with the fixed rate notion. Overall, in the CRE, you know, production side, even particularly in the purchase transactions as well as refinances. I'll have Anthony answer on the mortgage.

Anthony Kim
Chief Banking Officer, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Yeah, non-QM market, I mean, believe it or not, despite of slowdown in the purchase market, we've continued to see, you know, purchase, transactions. Non-QM market has been very stable and good for us.

Jason Stewart
Managing Director, Jones Trading

Okay. Thanks for taking the question. Appreciate it.

Operator

Our next question is a follow-up question from the line of Matthew Clark. Please proceed with your question.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Hey, thanks for the follow-up. Two questions. One, do you have any appetite to restructure your securities portfolio, with the duration over 5 years, and yields are moving higher, but probably not as much as you'd like? Just wanted to check in on that.

Ron Santarosa
CFO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Yes. Matthew, no real plans. I mean, we'll be, you know, when opportunities present themselves, we probably will take advantage. There's no real, you know, effort or desire afoot to restructure that portfolio.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Just back to the office commercial real estate exposure, the average balance is look relatively low at $900,000. Do you have a mix of, you know, how much of that $534 million of loans is owner-occupied versus non-owner?

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Yeah. I would say most of the office properties are owner or occupied.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Are non or investor or owner-occupied?

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

No. Are non-owner occupied.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay.

Anthony Kim
Chief Banking Officer, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Investor.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. Got it. Thank you.

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Okay.

Operator

There are no further questions in the queue. I'd like to hand the call back to Bonnie Lee for closing remarks.

Bonnie Lee
President and CEO, Hanmi Financial Corporation

Thank you for participating in our call today. We appreciate your interest in Hanmi and look forward to sharing our continued progress with you throughout the year.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Have a wonderful day.

Powered by