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Earnings Call: Q2 2017

Jul 21, 2017

Speaker 1

Kathy. Good morning, and welcome to Honeywell's 2nd quarter 2017 earnings conference call. With me here today are President and CEO, Darius Adamczyk and Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Tom Slovic. As a reminder, this call and webcast, including any non GAAP reconciliations, are available on our website atwww.honeywell.com/investor. Note that elements of this presentation contain forward looking statements that are best based on our best view of the world and of our businesses as we see them today.

Those elements can change and we'd ask that you interpret them in that light. We identify the principal risks and uncertainties that affect our performance in our annual report on Form 10 ks and other SEC filings. This morning, we will review our financial results for the Q2, highlight some key wins across the businesses and share our guidance for the Q3 of 'seventeen and our updated guidance for the full year. And as always, we'll leave ample time for your questions at the end. So with that, let me turn the call over to President and CEO, Darius Adamczyk.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. Today, we reported another quarter of strong performance, with each of our businesses either meeting or exceeding the sales guidance we provided in April. Organic sales growth exceeded the high end of our guidance range at over 3% with good results in all four business segments. Our performance in the Aerospace aftermarket continued and our U. S.

Defense business improved as we anticipated. In Advanced Materials, we win Performance Materials and Technologies, we recorded another quarter of double digit revenue growth driven by the continued adoption of our Solstice line of low global warming products. And in Home and Building Technologies, we exhibited strong revenue growth at approximately 4% organic. We also expanded margins by 50 basis points this quarter driven by commercial excellence and productivity, leading to earnings per share that came in at the high end of our guidance range at $1.80 and up 10% from 2016 on a basis consistent with our guidance. Our 2nd quarter tax rate was lower than initially anticipated and this enabled us to invest more than $115,000,000 in restructuring and other projects that's $90,000,000 higher than we contemplated in the guidance.

These projects start delivering cost savings for us later this year and ultimately will result more than $150,000,000 in run rate savings. Excluding this additional $90,000,000 of restructuring funding and 2016 earnings from last year's divestitures on a normalized for tax basis, earnings per share grew 10% year over year. I am pleased with our continued performance, especially our organic sales growth momentum, which is a testament to the growth investments we made in new technologies, platforms, production capacity and M and A. We are raising our full year sales guidance to a new range of 39,300,000,000 dollars to 40,000,000,000 dollars up 2% to 4% organic and again raising the low end of our earnings guidance today. 2017 earnings per share is now expected to be between $7 $7.10 Tom will take you through the details shortly.

Each of our businesses made significant progress on our key initiatives this quarter and I'd like to provide some brief highlights. Let's turn to Slide 3. In Aerospace, our suite of connected aircraft offering continued to gain traction. We announced that Go Direct Connected Maintenance, which combines our connectivity, in-depth product knowledge and data analytics to predict when mechanic parts need to be fixed or replaced will be used on the auxiliary power units of 60 of Cathay's Airbus A330 aircraft. The agreement was a result of a successful trial, which saved Cathay Pacific several $100,000 in operational and reactive maintenance cost per aircraft and reduced APU related delays by 51%.

In home and building technologies, we launched the Lyric C1 WiFi Security Camera, the latest in our growing line of do it yourself offerings that can help make home smarter and serve a faster growing segment of the market. The C1 can be set up easily using the Lyric app on your mobile device and it offers intelligent sound and motion detection. Since its launch last month, the C1 camera has already generated more than $1,000,000 in sales and more than 80% of reviewers are recommending it. We have an exciting pipeline of other new products in home and building technologies that will roll out over the latter half of the year. In Performance Materials and Technologies, we announced the agreement to acquire Nex9, a leading provider of cybersecurity solutions for industrial sites.

NEX90 has an impressive installed base of more than 6,000 sites around the world and is especially strong in the oil and gas, utility, chemical and mining and manufacturing sectors. We are excited about the combination of Nexnite, our growing cybersecurity business within Honeywell Process Solutions. Nexnite broadens our offerings for our installed base, while complementing our broader offerings in connected plant. Lastly, in safety and productivity solutions, we introduced Connected Freight, which was developed with Intel and 3rd party logistic companies. Connected Freight can help shippers and logistic companies monitor high value and perishable goods to prevent damage and loss.

Sensor tags are fixed too. Pallets or packages and they send real time information about the location and condition of critical freight while in transit. Our connected offerings continue to gain traction and feedback from our customers has been extremely positive. Our evolution as a softer industrial leader is well underway

Speaker 3

and I'm encouraged by our progress. With that, I'll turn it over to Tom to discuss our financial results in more detail. Thanks, Darius. Good morning. I'm on Slide 4.

As Darius mentioned, we achieved more than 3% organic sales growth in the Q2. The guidance was 0% to 2%. The momentum continued from the Q1 with all of our businesses either meeting or exceeding their sales guidance. Segment profit was $1,900,000,000 that was up 6% excluding the impact from our 2016 divestitures. Segment margin expanded 50 basis points from 2016 that was driven by volume leverage in commercial excellence as well as our continued focus on productivity and returns from previously executed restructuring projects.

Earnings per share were $1.80 Our 2nd quarter tax rate was 21.3%, lower than the originally expected due to higher than anticipated employee stock option exercises. But this favorable impact was offset by provisions for additional restructuring projects beyond what we anticipated in the original guidance. These investments will drive further growth and productivity mostly starting in 2018. Excluding those investments and earnings from our 2016 divestitures and normalized for tax at 25% in both periods, earnings per share was up 10% year over year. Our free cash flow momentum continues with strong operational performance in each of our segments.

Year to date, free cash flow was up 39% from 2016 despite approximately $300,000,000 more in timing related income tax payments. Overall, it was another quarter of strong operational performance. Let's move to slide 5 to discuss our segments in more detail. Let me start with Aerospace, which delivered a very strong quarter in both sales and profit. Aerospace sales growth was 2 percentage points above the high end of our guidance.

Strength in the commercial aftermarket continued this quarter with strong repair and overhaul activity, growing sales of retrofits, modifications and upgrades, and robust spares demand in the Air Transport and Regional segment. The business in general aviation aftermarket was also up, primarily driven by timing of customer demand. Overall, aftermarket sales grew 5% this quarter. The OE dynamics we've talked about in the last quarter continued with market related weakness in Business and General Aviation and slowing shipments for the legacy air transport platforms, partially offset by growth in new platforms. Overall, OE sales were down 5%.

Defense sales were up 5% I'm sorry, Defense sales were up 2% driven by deliveries related to the F-thirty 5 program and sensors and guidance systems within the U. S. Defense segment. This was partially offset by continued weakness in the space and commercial helicopter markets as we anticipated. In Transportation Systems, growth was driven by continued recovery of the commercial vehicles market with demand especially strong for on highway turbos in the U.

S, Europe and China. The China growth was driven by new regulations that restrict the weight of commercial vehicles, spurring demand for turbocharger technology that can provide more power to smaller sized engines. This is a trend we expect to continue for the remainder of 2017. Aerospace segment margin expansion of 140 basis points for the quarter exceeded the high end of our guidance driven by that higher sales volume as well as productivity net of inflation and the favorable impact of the 2016 divestiture of the Government Services business. Oven Building Technologies performance was mixed with strong organic sales but lower than anticipated margin rate growth.

HBT organic sales grew 4% at the high end of the guidance range driven by both products and distribution. Within products, we executed several large smart meter program rollouts. We saw continued strong demand for clean air and water products in China and we delivered nice growth within our homes business in North America. The sales growth acceleration in the product segment was also encouraging. Distribution continued to perform well with strength in both Honeywell Building Solutions and Global Distribution.

Orders were up 5% in Building Solutions and backlog was up double digits, so we expect growth in this business to continue. Segment margin for HBT was below our expectations coming in flat for the quarter. We continue to see benefits from previously funded restructuring and our ongoing productivity initiatives, but those savings were offset by unfavorable sales mix in the quarter. We had higher sales of lower margin products in Smart Energy and Environmental and Energy Solutions and lower volumes in Security and Fire. In smart energy, we're conducting aggressive value cost value engineering efforts aimed at reducing manufacturing costs, but our results from those projects have not materialized as quickly as we anticipated.

We also saw margin pressure from a regional perspective as we had plus 20% growth in China and over 40% in some of the HBT businesses in China. But we saw weaker sales growth in other more profitable regions. Clearly not the complete result we desire in HBT, but we're encouraged by the sales momentum and we're taking actions to address the profit performance, including better material productivity and stronger commercial execution. Performance Materials and Technologies had another very strong quarter with organic sales up 6%, the guide was 3% to 5% and 200 basis points of margin expansion, the guide was 170 to 200 basis points. There is encouraging news throughout the PMT business.

Overall, UOP sales were up single digits, mid single digits. Orders were up 40% and the backlog is up double digits. There was continued strength in UOP Russell specifically in the modular gas processing applications with 6 new units booked this quarter. We've booked 12 Russell units so far this year, more than double the amount booked in the first half of twenty sixteen. The orders in other segments of UOP continue or support a continued ramp up in organic sales volumes in the Q3.

In HPS, sales were down slightly, but margins expanded significantly due to commercial excellence and productivity. We saw lower backlog conversion in the projects business and lower demand for process measurement and control products in Europe. This was partially offset by significant growth in the short cycle software and service businesses. HPS orders were up about 15% and the backlog is growing nicely. Advanced Materials had another quarter of double digit growth and margin expansion enabled by CapEx investments we made for our Solstice line of low global warming products.

In May, we started up our largest Solstice facility and the world's largest automotive refrigerant plant in Louisiana, which is meeting continued demand for our Solstice YF product. Sales in our Solstice business nearly doubled in the quarter. Margin expansion came in at the high end of our guidance range driven by productivity, net of inflation, results from our commercial excellence efforts and the divestiture of the former resins and chemicals business in Q3 of 2016. We'll lap this impact in the Q4. And as I mentioned, margin performance was particularly strong in HPS and the Advanced Materials business.

In Safety and Productivity Solutions, organic sales were up 1%. Safety grew 2% on an organic basis driven by our high risk personal protection equipment and gas detection offerings. The general safety business has been improving sequentially for the past several quarters and also returned to positive organic growth in the Q2, thanks to sales and marketing initiatives as well as investments in our sales force. Workflow Solutions also grew high single digit in the quarter, driven by high demand for our leading voice enabled solutions and double digit growth in the mobilizer software business driven by a large win in Europe. In sensing and IoT, demand for sensing controls remain robust particularly in high growth regions.

Intelligrated continues to deliver impressive results growing more than 30% this quarter compared to the Q2 of 2016 when it was not yet owned by Honeywell. Now this was driven by large project awards with key accounts. We continue to see strong orders and backlog growth in Intelligrated, which as a reminder will begin to be counted in Honeywell's organic sales growth rates at the beginning of September. Productivity products was down in the quarter driven by decreased North America sales particularly for the mobility business. Although we anticipate that productivity products will improve in Q3 and Q4, our more aggressive product launches will occur in the Q4 and will likely continue to see softness in the mobility business until early 2018.

SPS segment margins, while below our expectations, were still strong, expanding 90 basis points excluding the 1st year dilutive impact from M and A. This was primarily driven by continued productivity and restructuring benefits and was partially offset by investments in our commercial excellence as well as lower volumes in the mobility business. The shortfall to our expectations was primarily driven by lower than expected volumes in productivity products, accelerated investments related to the go to market strategy shift for the retail business as well as the new product launch investments I mentioned. Slide 6 is a walk of our earnings per share from Q2 of 2016 to the Q2 of 2017. In the Q2 of last year, earnings from our 2016 divestitures were approximately $0.05 per share and we exclude those amounts from our 2016 baseline consistent with our guidance framework.

For comparison purposes, we have also normalized the tax rate for the Q2 of 2016 to the 25 percent effective tax rate we initially assumed in our 2017 guidance, the impact of which was minor. Segment profit improvement resulted in $0.11 increase in earnings per share and all of our segments are contributing to the growth. Other below the line items principally lower interest expense as a result of the debt refinancings we did in 2016 as well as higher pension income accounted for a $0.05 improvement to earnings per share bringing it to the $1.80 right at the high end of our guidance and up 10% year over year. As I mentioned earlier, our 2nd quarter tax rate was lower than anticipated at 21.3%, principally the result of higher than anticipated stock option exercises, which resulted in a $0.09 earnings per share benefit. Conversely, the additional restructuring provisions that Darius and I mentioned reduced earnings per share by a similar $0.09 On average, the payback of these projects is under 2 years and overall they will generate more than $150,000,000 in run rate cost savings.

The pipeline of funded but unexecuted restructuring projects is robust at more than $300,000,000 and will continue to drive returns as the projects are executed. Let's turn to Slide 7 to discuss our expectations for the Q3. In Aerospace, reported sales are expected to be down 2% to 4%, primarily due to the impact of the 2016 divestiture of the Government Service Business and organic sales are expected to be flat to up 2%. Within commercial OE, we expect strong air transport deliveries for new platforms, partially offset by the impact of declining shipments on legacy platforms. We anticipate a tailwind from customer incentives, which will improve our sales and segment margin in the 3rd quarter.

And as we've mentioned, we do not expect a recovery in the business jet OE market until closer to the late 2018 or 2019 timeframe. But we do anticipate modest growth in the business aviation aftermarket on continued R and O activity. We also expect continued strength in the air transport aftermarket driven by retrofits, modifications and upgrades as well as by the typical seasonal demand. The commercial vehicle market should continue to recover driving modest growth in transportation systems. Growth in light vehicle gas continues to be driven by demand in high growth regions.

Aerospace margin should expand significantly this quarter driven by the OEM incentive tailwind, improving volumes and the continued benefit from prior year restructuring projects. In HBT, we anticipate organic sales of 1% to 3% and reported sales growth to be slightly lower, though flat to up 2% due to the impacts of foreign currency translation. In the Q2, there was gradual month over month sales growth improvement with good momentum exiting the quarter. We expect those strong trends to continue. Within the products business, we'll have additional large smart meter program rollouts, principally in Europe and anticipate continued demand for air and water products in China.

In distribution, the strong orders and backlog trends in Building Solutions combined with the commercial excellent initiatives and growing scale of our global distribution business will continue to contribute to growth. HBT segment margins are expected to expand 10 to 40 basis points driven by cost reductions from prior restructuring actions, ongoing commercial excellence and productivity initiatives. These will be partially offset by the continuation of the headwinds from the unfavorable product mix I mentioned earlier. In Performance Materials and Technologies, sales are expected to be down 6% to 8% on a reported basis, primarily due to the impact of the 2016 spin off of the resins and chemicals business. But on an organic basis, we expect PMT to grow at 7% to 9%, driven by conversion to sales of our strong backlog.

UOP is expected to deliver more than 20% growth driven by strong licensing sales, continued strength in the modular gas processing business and demand for hydroprocessing catalysts. We expect strong growth across the entire HPS portfolio, but primarily in our Lifecycle Solutions and Services, Field Products and Combustion Businesses. In Advanced Materials, we expect mid single digit growth fueled principally by Solstice. PMT segment margins are expected to expand 130 to 170 basis points driven by commercial excellence, productivity and the favorable impact of the resins and chemicals divestiture. In Safety and Productivity Solutions, sales are expected to be up 2% to 4% on an organic basis with reported sales increasing about 20% due to the impact of sales from the Intelligrated acquisition.

The Q4 is the 1st full quarter of Intelligrated organic sales. In the Safety business, we expect further recovery in general safety products and a gradual improvement in the retail channel as our go to market transition from a distribution model to a direct sales model is executed. Growth in productivity will be driven by a robust order pipeline in the Workflow Solutions and continued strong demand for sensing controls. SPS margins are expected to expand by more than 150 basis points excluding the 1st year dilutive impacts of M and A. This is driven primarily by benefits from last year's restructuring projects, the higher volumes as well as the results from our ongoing productivity efforts.

So for the company in total, organic sales growth anticipated to be 2% to 4% with 120 to 160 basis points of margin expansion leading to earnings per share of $1.70 to $1.75 that's up 13% to 16% year over year And again that excludes divestitures and it's normalized to the 3rd year sorry Q3 tax rate of 26%. To the extent our tax rate is lower than 26% like we did in the 2nd quarter, we intend to undertake additional restructuring projects. Let's move to slide 8. As we previously mentioned, we are raising the low end of our full year EPS guidance by $0.10 So the new range is $7 to $7.10 that's up 8% to 10% and again that excludes the divestitures and last year's debt refinancing charges. We're also raising our full year sales guidance to $39,300,000,000 to $40,000,000,000 Sales are now expected to be up 2% to 4% organic driven by higher volumes.

In terms of our segments, PMT organic sales growth guidance is now 5% to 7% for the full year. SPS reported sales growth guidance is now 18% to 20% and the low end of Aerospace's sales outlook is up slightly since the last quarter. From a segment margin expansion perspective, we remain within the initial guidance range of 70 to 110 basis points. We have lowered the full year margin guidance for both HBT and SPS and increased the margin guide for Arrow. In SPS, we still expect strong operational margin performance consistent with our previous guidance.

Overall, there will be puts and takes across the businesses, but we're confident in our ability to deliver our full year margin expansion guidance and we remain focused on executing for the remainder of 2017. There's no change to our full year free cash flow guidance. The first half free cash flow performance was good, showing a 39% performance year over year and we're focused on continuous improvements in our execution across the organization. Let me turn to slide 9 for a quick wrap up. We had a strong second quarter with higher than anticipated organic growth, continued margin expansion and good performance in all segments.

The trends we've seen in the first half of the year are expected to continue leading to Q3 earnings per share that are expected to be up healthy double digits. The entire organization is focused on executing Darius' key priorities which as you'll recall include improving organic sales growth, maintaining our productivity rigor, becoming a best in class software industrial company and continuing to aggressively deploy capital, all the while continuing to make significant investments in Honeywell's future. With that, let's move Mark to Q and A.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Tom. Both Barry and Tom are available to answer your questions. Kathy, if you could, please open the line for Q and A.

Speaker 4

Certainly. And we will go first to Steve Tusa of JPMorgan.

Speaker 5

So just a question on the ACS related businesses. In HBT, obviously, the margins have been a little bit weak there. And even in the SBS business, Darius, can you talk maybe about the volume of kind of investments you guys are putting to work there? I mean, any kind of color on is this I know investment is usually not discretionary per se given competitive pressures out there, but maybe some degree of magnitude around what kind of money you're putting to work there? I think that's the first question.

I have a quick follow-up.

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, I think, clearly, we're investing both in RD and E and really reallocating our sales force as well because frankly, we've had some places where fundamentally we under invest in. I think as a matter of fact, I would say in our developed markets we've underinvested in terms of sales force and in HGR, although we've had very aggressive investments, we also want to make sure that those investments are paying off. And they are because by the way, as I look at what happened in HBT in Q2, part of the issue here is a mix shift. Just to give you a couple of facts, our China EENS business was up 45% in Q2.

And that's a little bit part of the margin mix challenge that we had here in the quarter. But overall, I continue to be very bullish. The other thing is that we're working on is what I call kind of a second tier of value offerings for E and S and HSS as well as investing in our DIY platform. That's how I'd characterize most of the investments.

Speaker 5

Is there a degree of kind of margin pressure that's happening today that can kind of spin back into the numbers as growth comes through? Is it kind of like a step up or just any way to somewhat quantify that or not really?

Speaker 2

I mean, I think obviously the complaint yes, I would say not really. I think that some of it is a mix and some of it is we got to do a little bit better on a couple of elements. The two places I point to is, I think we have an opportunity to drive better material productivity. I have higher expectations there. And the second one is around pricing and commercial excellence because I think frankly some of those areas that we haven't done as well as we could have.

Having said that, I think overall it's a pretty positive story because as you look at our markets, we grew faster than our markets, particularly on the residential side. So all in all, yes, I'm slightly disappointed by the margin rate, but we have some actions that Terrence and his team are working. And I don't want to also forget about a 4% top line growth with tremendous growth in China, just well north of 20% for HBT.

Speaker 5

And that could be an 18 story, that improvement, 18 story?

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then one last quick One last one on free cash flow. Normal seasonality kind of gets you north of where you're guiding to. Is there anything that's kind of reverses in the second half that suggests that it shouldn't kind of track a more normal seasonal trend for the second half, Tom?

Speaker 3

No. I think we're fine on cash. I mean, we've kind of when you look when you draw the market at the end of the first half, overall conversion is right in line with where we were last year. But in the second half, some of the initiatives that we've got going are going to drive that stronger performance. Frankly, I think we should do better than overall 5% to 7%, to your point on the first half growth.

But we've got a little bit of a track record of not necessarily being entirely accurate on our cash forecasting. So we want to be sufficiently conservative as we had in the second half, but big effort for us. Yes.

Speaker 2

And Steve, I'd just point out that we have had some headwinds both in the first half on cash taxes, well north of $300,000,000 and then we have some more coming in the second half. So that's why I think but by the way, that's already reflected in our outlook for the year and that's why it may seem like we're being a little conservative, but that's we've got some real headwinds.

Speaker 5

Okay, great.

Speaker 6

Thanks a

Speaker 5

lot guys.

Speaker 7

Thanks, Nick. Next one comes

Speaker 4

to Nigel Coe of Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 8

Thanks. Good morning guys. Just wanted to dig back into back into HBT and I think the moving parts there were pretty well known. But obviously, foreign security is a bit weaker versus the segment average. So I'm wondering, do we have visibility on some improvement in that in the second half of the year?

Is that more of an 18 story? And then the second part of that question is, I think this is the first time you've called out China as a below feet average margin geography. Maybe I'm wrong there, but what is the path towards getting China margins back to towards fleet average or better?

Speaker 2

Yes. I wouldn't I think as any kind of high growth HDR geography, it's slightly diluted to the overall average. And obviously, when you blend it in at 45% growth, it has an impact. In terms of margins, work those pretty aggressively. Terrence is all over this, both on the productivity side as well as the commercial excellence.

We have some opportunity of some new products coming. So, I expect some level of recovery and we are going to grow margins in that business this year. We probably were a little bit aggressive initially and that's why we made some we had some puts and takes in the overall Honeywell portfolio. That happened to be one of the takes, but we expect growth there, the margin growth for 2017 and further enhancements for 20 18. And I can also tell you that a good portion of the restructuring funds that we allocated in Q2 went to HBT.

Speaker 8

Okay. Okay. That's helpful. And then a question for Tom on the hedging and given the weakness in the dollar we've seen continuing through 3Q. So the way I understand it, helpful, it's helpful to top line.

It's harmful to EBIT, so there's a bit of margin pressure. So just looking at your unchanged segment guidance for the year, I'm wondering if the better volumes on margin has been offset by a little bit of pressure from FX or maybe it's immaterial, but maybe you can just clear that up. And then where do you stand on hedging for 2018?

Speaker 3

Yes. So just for 2017, Nigel, we're more or less about 3 quarters or more locked in on FX rates. And as you know, our hedging program is intended when you consider all the aspects of it. The net result is to hedge the operating income and not necessarily the top line, definitely not the top line. So our top line will definitely float as the FX floats.

And so if you see the euro strengthening as you have over the last few weeks, our top line should improve. However, our margin rates, our margin dollars are more or less locked in for most of the major currencies for the year given the hedging that we did at the beginning of the year. So if you start to see a strengthening second half in a strengthening or weakening second half, that's not going to have a material impact on our margin rates themselves given that we've kind of locked the rates in. So 2018, we're taking a similar approach. We don't necessarily disclose all the positions, but we're keeping a strong eye on the currencies where we have major exposures, euro being a big one and taking risk off the table as we see the opportunities arise.

Speaker 5

Great. Okay. Thanks guys.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 4

We will now take a question from Jeffrey Sprague with Vertical Research Partners.

Speaker 9

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Jeff.

Speaker 7

Good morning.

Speaker 10

A couple of questions. First on Intelligrated and the growth that you're seeing there, would this all still be associated with what they had in the pipeline and order book at the time of the deal? Or is there some kind of Honeywell benefit that's starting to show up in their results? That's the first question.

Speaker 2

No. The answer to your question is no. This was not there at the time of the deal. There's a lot the pipeline has grown substantially. And certainly there's an inherent Honeywell benefit.

I mean, frankly, the Honeywell brand is really well known throughout the industrial and transportation logistics world and we've benefited from the current relationships that we've had. And as you recall, the premise behind this business going into SPS is our scanning and mobility business, its strongest vertical is transportation logistics. So there's a lot of benefit in terms of cross selling and leveraging that sales force to generate leads for Intelligrated. So we're certainly seeing the benefits from that. And that pipeline Intelligrated is extraordinarily robust.

Speaker 10

Right. And then just on thinking about PMT margins and a lot going on there with UOP and HPS, But just thinking about how Solstice ramps, can you give us some sense of how fully utilized the new factory or factories are and kind of what kind of operating leverage we could expect flowing as you ramp up close this year?

Speaker 2

Yes. So I mean the new factory, the Apollo factory that Tom referred to, it's not fully utilized yet. It just came online. It started up in May. So think about a 50% like utilization, which is kind of normal at this stage because it's still ramping up to its full.

So there's more leverage there to come. We're going to be kind of shifting our supply a bit from sort of externally sourced and so on to more internally produced. Obviously, that's going to be accretive, which is good news. So, the short story here is that there is more leverage to come. And as you saw, Jeff, really, really nice story in PMT.

I mean, it's both in terms of orders, leverage on the revenue and Solstice continues to deliver. And strong backlogs too. I mean we have a nice backlog

Speaker 3

we had into the second half of the year in all the businesses.

Speaker 10

Great. And then just one other quick one. Tom, can you just put a finer point on what the variance is Q3 versus Q3 in the aero incentives either in dollars or margin impact?

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 3

It's about, I'd say, 50 basis points margin impact year over year. And it's as you know, the 2,000 overall incentives for the year are going to be probably 40 to 60 basis points down, most of that coming in the second half and most of that being in the Q3. So this is where you see the biggest impact and that's why those Aerospace margin rates for the Q3 will be so robust. I mean they're already robust without the incentives. I mean but up to 300 plus of improvement is pretty strong.

Speaker 4

And now we'll go to Joe Ritchie of Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 6

Hey, good morning, guys. Good morning, Joe. So, hey, Tom, maybe just following up on that point right there on the OEM incentives. It's interesting when you take a look at your organic growth guidance for 3Q and aero, I was surprised that it wasn't a little bit higher because you do have the benefit from OEM and you have a pretty easy comp. So is there any what's kind of offsetting that in 3Q or is this just kind of like a conservative 3Q guide?

Speaker 3

Yes, I think we want to build up some momentum. We had a strong commercial aftermarket 5% in the Q2 and we kind of want to see that momentum continue. That we sort of factored in at low single digits for the Q3. I think defense and space, we've got a comparable quarter over quarter. The incentives do come through and if they do I mean, they will come through.

If the aftermarket comes through like it did in the Q2, we should be definitely at the high end of that 2% organic, it's not pushing higher.

Speaker 2

Joe, if I can just add, I think the mix is such that we kind of know the visibility on OEs, we know roughly what that looks like. And so, we're actually getting much more into the shorter cycle business for aftermarket, especially on the BGA side. So frankly, we don't really we don't have as much visibility as we normally would in aerospace because that's what we're counting on. And thus, as Tom pointed out, we want to see that rate of aftermarket activity both on the ATR and BGA side maintained and that's why we let guidance be where it is.

Speaker 6

Got it. Okay. And then maybe just following up on Steve's question from just a little earlier, but asking it slightly differently. I guess if you think about all the restructuring actions that you guys have taken, the pull forward in 3Q last year, additional restructuring this year in 2Q. It's nice to see the growth uptick, but I guess maybe if you could just kind of comment on the just what you're seeing competitively and your ability to hold the cost benefits into your margin and how much you're actually having to utilize to actually offset potentially a competitive pricing environment?

I think any color around that would be helpful.

Speaker 2

Sure. Yes, I mean, it's a couple of points. The first one is, we definitely are seeing the benefits of restructuring come through, And that's certainly there. I think your question is probably more around HBT. And yes, it is a competitive environment.

However, we also have a very strong competitive competition and we're seeing that in our growth rates in particularly in high growth regions, but also in DM. So part of it is mix, but part of it is we've got an opportunity to do a little bit better, like I said, on the material productivity side, commercial excellence and so on, as well as some of the new product launches that we're doing and kind of offering having the Honeywell premium tier as well as the value tier as well as expansion of DIY. So there are some self help things that we're embarking upon and really started in Q2 and I expect to see some benefit of that towards the end of this year and even more so next year. So, yes, it's a competitive environment, but given our brand product positioning, overall value to customers, I'm bullish in how we're going to perform here.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Jeff.

Speaker 4

And now we will go to Peter Arment of Baird.

Speaker 11

Yes. Good morning, Darius, Tom. Tom, you mentioned briefly on PMT on the backlog. You ex kind of Solstice. How is backlog holding up or what kind of visibility do

Speaker 3

you have? Can you give us

Speaker 11

a little more color there?

Speaker 3

Yes. It's really strong. When you look at the both HPS as well as UOP. I mean, they're both north of 10% I'm sorry, in total, they're north of 10%. I mean, UOP is pushing 20% HPS, as I said, strong momentum and we think that's going to continue.

When you look at the character of what's in UOP, it's particularly encouraging because you see it across all of their product lines, which means that it's not just an aftermarket where getting catalyst sales, but we're getting the full gamut of things, the engineering, the new projects, the equipment. And that means that there's more investing going on than we had seen over the course of last year. So, good prospects and good character, comprehensive character of backlog across the UOP businesses. And HPS, same thing, I mean even more skewed towards the higher profit service side for HPS. I mean that's pushing 10% up.

And then the only reason the HPS backlog isn't where the UOP one is in terms of double digits is that we've been carrying and been very successful with some of these mega projects in HPS. And as you execute those and they come out of the backlog, obviously, you see the impact. Those projects carry a lot of 3rd party content, however, They're not necessarily the most profitable, but they build installed base and we find them overall to be very attractive long term. So when I look at HPS backlog, even though it's mid single digits growth, the character of it from a profitability perspective is quite different than you would have thought a year ago or you would have seen a year ago.

Speaker 2

So if I could just add even more color because we're very pleased with what we're seeing there. I mean if you think about backlog for all of PMT up double digit, Think about order rates for PMT for Q2 up north of 20%. And the best part, Q3 outlook, high single digit outlook for order rates. So we're really, really pleased how that business is performing and this is going to get maintained and that kind of momentum is out there for us.

Speaker 11

Thanks. Just a quick unrelated follow-up on the bizjet weakness. Tom, it just sounds like it's been a lingering issue for a long time, but does it sound like that things have gotten worse on the OE side? Any color there would be appreciated.

Speaker 3

No. I mean, the

Speaker 2

when you look at

Speaker 3

go back 18 months or a couple of years and you were seeing heavy double digit declines on the BGA OE. Remember, in the 4th quarter, we're or second half, we were down over 30% on the OE side. Those declines have moderated. It was mid single digit decline in the Q2 for the BGAOE business and we kind of expect it to moderate around that. I mean the orders can be a little bit lumpy and the timing doesn't necessarily exactly correlate to what our customers would report for their unit shipments.

But I'm not going to say we've seen the bottom, but it's the rates of decline are significantly, significantly less than what they were a year ago.

Speaker 11

Got it. Thanks very much guys.

Speaker 4

We will now move to Andrew Kaplowitz of Citi.

Speaker 12

Good morning guys. Good morning, Adam. You didn't make an acquisition in 2Q, but acquisition activity has still been relatively quiet. And you've talked about valuations in the past being pretty high and maybe waiting for tax reform. Do you expect to have a big ramp up in M and A activity in the second half of this year?

And if not, do you end up buying back more stock? I mean, how should we look at capital allocation in the second half of the year?

Speaker 2

Yes. I would say that the pipeline is very active and we probably have 3 to 5 things we're looking at very, very seriously. But we're going to continue to be cautious buyers. And I think part of it is just the discipline around purchase price. There's certainly things out there that we're very interested in, but they also have to come at the right price.

So hopefully and I never guarantee what will happen, but hopefully we'll have some additions to the portfolio here in the second half. We certainly have some interesting properties that we're closely examining. But it also has to happen at the right price. So we'll see what happens. And we're not I mean, I think the tax environment regime, I think there's more uncertainty in that now than maybe even before.

So I can't let that sort of rule the business and we're not going to hold that up. I indicated before we have a slight preference for overseas M and A versus domestic, but certainly we would look at anything. So we'll see what happens. In terms of share buyback, yes, as I indicated, depending on what happens on the M and A front and we're going to be looking that as a lever as well, but I want to make sure we really exhaust those possibilities first. And I'm still hoping we'll have a little more clarity on the tax front, maybe even before the end of this quarter.

And Andy, just to add to that, put

Speaker 3

a little bit of dollars on that, you remember, Darius said at the Investor Day that from a capital allocation perspective, U. S, we would have we would look to deploy $5,000,000,000 this year between dividends, share buybacks and M and A, the dividend is more or less understood to be about 2 of that 5, that leaving $3,000,000,000 between share buyback and M and A. So far, we've done about $1,000,000,000 of share buyback. And so we've got a couple of 1,000,000,000 left. And as Darius says, we're going to watch that.

So that's the $5,000,000,000 in the U. S. Outside of the U. S, as he said at the time, there's close to $10,000,000,000 of capacity that is ready to be put to use immediately, let alone or excluding even the leveraging capabilities. So I think we're on track on both fronts.

But I same thing with Darius, I don't think there's an impending rush of deals that you're going to see after we get off this call. So we'll keep you guys in the loop.

Speaker 12

All right. And then, Darius, your commentary around your Productivity Products business suggests that maybe your new product rollouts there have been maybe slower than you thought or at least not quite as effective. Can you talk about your confidence level in turning around that business as you turn the portfolio here?

Speaker 2

Yes. And I think the one thing that's important to as you think about SPS, I think it's important to put in context where the issue is. The issue is in one business and in one segment of the business called mobility and it's even more regional than that which is called North America. And as I pointed out, the issue on the last call which is sort of our array of products in the Android at the Android operating system. Frankly, we're not where we need to be in terms of our range and offering.

We did launch a good product in Q2, which will help. I don't think it's the full solution. The team has very robust launch plans, but frankly those won't happen until about Q4 of this year. So we're expecting some improvement in the second half, but really kind of a full improvement is what will really happen in 2018 as all those products come to the market. Although I will say we are encouraged by the product launch that they did do in May, but we don't really have a lot of revenue yet generated from those offerings.

Speaker 12

Thanks guys.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Kenny.

Speaker 4

And now we will go to Andrew Obin of Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Speaker 9

Yes. Good morning, guys.

Speaker 3

Andrew, good morning.

Speaker 9

Good morning. Good to see a little bit of green on my screen today. Just a follow-up question on China. Is the mix in China changing? Because historically, my understanding is that China was more profitable, but you have been talking about a big push in consumer area in China.

Is that something that is impacting margin?

Speaker 2

No, China is still very attractive and very profitable. The product segments that happened to do, especially in HBT this quarter was sort of a mix, which is, as I mentioned, slightly dilutive to the overall HBT rate. But overall, we're very, very pleased with the China profitability. And overall on a Honeywell basis, it compares to our overall margins. And when we're seeing the kind of growth we're seeing, that's a great thing for us.

And we're very bullish there. And I think if I had to point to a market that I was extraordinarily pleased with in Q2 that would be it. Our China growth was spectacular.

Speaker 3

Yes. Just to accentuate that a little bit, the GDP whatever the right GDP is for China say at 7 percent, I mean every one of our businesses was well north of that. Aerospace is doing fantastic on the R and O side. TS has got new launches taking advantage of the air quality opportunities there. HBT a lot of new products particularly around air and water up double digit safety and productivity up double digit and PMT up double digit.

I mean UOP, HPS, Advancement, all of them were just outstanding in China. As we get more momentum there and we leverage the capacity that we have from a production perspective, the profitability continues to grow and it's already very healthy.

Speaker 9

And Shane and his team have always had a very and I think Honeywell have always had a very sophisticated view of China. We're getting a lot of questions from investors about Chinese growth after this big party Congress they're going to have in October, November. What are you guys sort of framework for growth in the first half of twenty eighteen? Some people tell us growth will slow down. Some people tell us they'll try to save face and so the new team will see good growth as well.

What are your insights?

Speaker 2

Yes, obviously, it's very important for the Chinese economy to do pretty well until that November timeframe. But overall, we continue to be bullish on China. I think whether this pace is maintained or something slightly lower than that, I don't think that changes our calculus as it relates to China because we expect growth there to be 4 or 5 times what it is in some of our DM markets and we're showing those kinds of numbers. By the way, when Tom talked double digits, it's not 10%. Think of the number that's well 2x times that number.

Speaker 1

We don't we have the right momentum,

Speaker 2

we have the right presence. We're very comfortable with our strategies in terms of what we're doing East for East and East to Rest. And I still think it's very early innings for us in terms of building out our China business and actually using it more as a hub for a lot of the other HGR economies. So I continue to be optimistic whether it's going to get better or slightly worse, from my view, it doesn't change our investment profile and our bullishness overall on the market.

Speaker 9

Terrific. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thanks, Andrew.

Speaker 4

And now we will take a question from Julian Mitchell of Credit Suisse.

Speaker 7

Hi, good morning. Just a first question really around the transport piece within Aerospace. The growth there was around 1% or 2% in the first half. I think you're seeing commercial vehicles recovering a bit, but the automotive side may be softening. So maybe talk a little bit about what you're seeing in automotive specifically, how you think that plays out in the second half?

And how you're thinking more broadly about the growth outlook for transport?

Speaker 2

Yes. Pat, you talked about Automotive. Again, Automotive grew. That business grew for us this past quarter. It's kind of it was a bit of an interesting mix.

Diesel was down and it was down high single digit, but more than offset by growth in gasoline, growth in commercial vehicles and high growth regions really, really took off. I talked about China again, but again a great story. You talk about double digit growth in China. This we grew over 40% there in Q2. So a really nice growth rate and we're really well positioned globally.

So even though some of our markets in U. S. And Europe were down slightly, or more than offset by our presence and our growth in HGR. So, it's a really nice positioning of that business and we continue to be very, very bullish on its outlook. Even a country like Brazil grew well double digits.

So, nice story for us. Yes.

Speaker 3

The other thing I would add to that, Julia, is the some of this is just timing related. As we complete platforms or the our customers, our OE customers, discontinue platforms that we're on, that can have a short term impact on rates. And we've seen a couple of platforms come to completion in the Q2. But as you know, our win rates on new platforms for the business has been at an all time high. I mean, we think we're pushing 50% of the win rate on new platforms.

So that will start to come through as well. So I wouldn't read into the 1% as an indication of any challenge. I think overall we're in pretty good shape as Darius says on the transportation business.

Speaker 7

Understood. Thank you. And then my second question would really be on SPS and sort of the platform outlook there within warehouse, automation and logistics specifically. You had Intelligrated now within the portfolio for 9 months or so. Do you think you're in a position now having integrated it well to date to do further M and A in that warehouse arena?

Speaker 1

Or are

Speaker 7

you pretty satisfied with the market share and the offering you have right now?

Speaker 2

I mean, we certainly like the space. If there is the right acquisition that we had, we'd certainly look at it. It's an interesting market for us. We do have a strong presence between our scanning and mobility business, between Intelligrated, even our industrial safety and a lot of the safety gears that we sell into that market all go together and create a very coherent and valuable proposition for our customers. But certainly we'll look at some other segments if there's something of interest there.

So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3

Yes. I think the warehouse automation space is going to be a really nice one for us to continue to invest in. You have we've got the building blocks, but there are a lot of both adjacencies geographically as well as software wise that really we can enhance the model with. So we're excited by what we see.

Speaker 7

Great. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 4

We will now take a question from John Inch of Deutsche Bank.

Speaker 13

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Is there a way to qualify and maybe quantify possibly the impact of sort of relatively stable crude prices here? You guys have a decent amount of direct and indirect exposures. And I'm just curious if how Tom or Darice you would think about that or articulate

Speaker 2

that? Yes. There's a lot of directional movement. One minute U. S.

Inventory is down and today not such good news. There's talk about Saudi holding back production. So we're every day there seems to be sort of a different data point, which has an impact on the oil prices. But the pipeline for us is that something north of 40 and if we get some stability like we've had, then things are fine. If price of oil drops below 40 and stays there for a bit, that would concern me.

We'll see what happens. There's a lot of moving pieces between continued expansion of U. S. Shale production between what OPEC is going to do, what's Libya and Nigeria, what are they producing, what's Iran going to do. So there's a lot of moving pieces here and it's hard to decipher exactly what decisions are going to be made.

I think this next OPEC meeting is going to be a very, very important one, in which case we can set some directionality. But overall, as of right now, and as you can see from our order rates for both HPS and UOP, the market is good and the activity is very good, very good second quarter and we're bullish on the Q3 as well.

Speaker 3

Yes, I think those portfolios had proven to be fairly resistant to massive movement in the oil prices. And what I mean by that is if you look at what the nature of where we participate, I mean, we're in the midstream and downstream, almost exclusively in the downstream for UOP, so refining and petrochemicals. I mean, those are areas that stood up very well in the when oil was down at all time lows. HPS was a little bit more in midstream, but still I think the positioning of our portfolios makes them fairly resistant. I mean, not immune, not trying to put that out there, but it's the case.

Speaker 13

Itself. Yes. Tom, I mean you went through that when oil was crashing, right? You went through a fairly elaborate exercise to sort of basically pitch for the resilience of the portfolio. I'm just trying to understand, we've had semi reasonably stable oil prices.

Are we seeing some sort of a net tailwind that maybe if oil stays here anniversaries next year, so the benefits you're getting this year maybe dissipates a little next year. I don't know. I'm just trying to put this into a context. That's all.

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, I would say that we're the markets come back this year, it's unquestionable. But I don't think it's come back in a V kind of a fashion. I would say the HPS and EOP teams are just doing very, very well in terms of their performance. I mean, the kind of booking rates that they're getting and we're seeing, I haven't seen from anybody else.

So I'm very pleased with how they're performing. But I still think that provided oil price stays stable or maybe upticks, there could be a bit more tailwinds here to come. So I'm optimistic. And the pipeline that we have in terms of our quote log makes me optimistic. Obviously that could change, but right now I'm fairly bullish on the market.

Speaker 13

Yes, it makes sense. So then just as a follow-up, Gary, it's the portfolio review. Are we still no one's asked about it, you didn't really talk about in your prepared remarks. Are we on track for some sort of a presentation announcement? I think you've said by the summer.

And I just want to clarify, it's not going to be in the last week of August, is it? I mean, by summer, do you mean when we get back from Labor Day? No,

Speaker 2

I just want to make sure everybody is on holiday now. Yes.

Speaker 1

No,

Speaker 2

it's We're still targeting what I exactly what I said was late summer, early fall. We're very much tracking to that and that's when I'd anticipate some further clarity around the portfolio.

Speaker 13

So don't change the vacate plans just yet. Okay, thank you. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2

No, I think you're safe the last week of August. Relax. Beach is nice.

Speaker 4

And for one final question and that will come from Khitin Khanna of Cowen and Company.

Speaker 14

Yes. Thank you. Many of my questions have been answered. But I did want to ask, at the Paris Air Show and over the last couple of quarters, Boeing has talked a lot about penetrating the service business and they cited avionics as one of the areas that they're trying to get more share of in the aftermarket. And I just wanted to get your opinion on what form do you think this takes?

Is this more of an opportunity? Or is it a risk for Honeywell longer term? And how do you guys approach this potential change in the marketplace?

Speaker 2

Yes. Well, I the clear stance I could I'm not really sure yet because we haven't seen some of those plans yet rolled out by Boeing. Boeing is very well respected within Honeywell as a customer, partner with Boeing on a number of things. They're a great customer and we're going to do whatever we need to do to support them as a customer. In terms of exactly what's going to happen and how they're going to be going after their services business, I think that's yet to be found out.

So to me, there isn't that clear whether it's opportunity or a threat. I will tell you that our connected aircraft, which I think is something of value to Boeing and a lot of the other OEMs, is something that's picking up pace very, very quickly. I talked about the connected APU in my opening and that's getting tremendous traction of customers. And by the way, that's only the beginning in terms of our offerings for connected aircraft. We have many, many more coming.

So I think that that's complementary to what Boeing is doing and some of the other OEMs. So overall, I'm very positive on our continued strong relationship with Boeing going forward.

Speaker 1

Thanks a lot guys.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 4

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's question and answer session. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference back to Mr. Dariusz Domczyk for any additional closing comments.

Speaker 2

Thank you. The second quarter was another strong one for us with strong organic growth, margin expansion and continued free cash flow momentum, which is up nearly 40% on a year over year basis. And we were able to undertake some sizable restructuring projects that will benefit our future performance. Those are not a perfect quarter and we have several opportunities that are well within our control to improve. There's a lot more upside for Honeywell and we'll continue our focus on improving organic growth, maintaining our productivity rigor, becoming a best in class software industrial company and aggressively deploying capital.

We also remain committed to investing in our future and we're looking forward to sharing more great results with you in October. On behalf of the entire Honeywell team, we wish you a pleasant and relaxing

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