Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Honeywell's Third Quarter 2014 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants have been placed in listen only mode and the floor will be open for your questions following the presentation. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Elena Doum, Vice President of Investor Relations.
Thank you, Leo. Good morning and welcome to Honeywell's Q3 2014 earnings conference call. Here with me today are Chairman and CEO, Dave Cote Senior Vice President and CFO, Tom Klosek. Today's call and webcast, including any non GAAP reconciliations, are available on our website at honeywell.com/investor. Note that elements of today's presentation do contain forward looking statements
that
are based on our best view of the world and of our businesses as we see them today. Those elements can change and we would ask that you interpret them in that light. We identify the principal risks and uncertainties that affect our outlook for the outlook for the Q4 and provide an initial framework for 20 15. And finally, we will be rolling
time for your questions. So with
that, I'll turn the call over to Dave Cote.
Good morning, all. As I'm sure you've seen by now, Honeywell had another terrific quarter with better than expected operational performance and sales, margins and earnings all exceeding our guidance. In the quarter, our organic sales growth accelerated to 5%, a continuation of the positive trend we've seen throughout the year. And even more encouraging was the fact that we saw organic sales growth broadly across the portfolio in all our segments. So it truly was a balanced contribution highlighting great positions in good industries.
Our short cycle order rates continue to trend positive as we saw strong quarters from Energy Safety and Security and Transportation Systems as well as continued improvement in Advanced Materials. Our long cycle businesses are maintaining robust backlogs with strong orders and sales growth this quarter from UOP, Process Solutions and Aerospace giving us confidence particularly in our residential and industrial markets. As you know, we've been conservative over the years in our planning assumptions for Europe and I think that's been a good call. China continues to be a strong market for us both on the short and long cycle sides of the portfolio and we saw double digit increases this quarter in both the Middle East and India, reinforcing that our focus on high growth regions is paying off. EPS of 1.47 dollars increased 19% year over year or 14% normalized for tax.
So another quarter double digit EPS growth with earnings coming in above the high end of our guidance range. Our continued progress on the Honeywell operating system or HOS and other key process initiatives are delivering meaningful growth and productivity benefits. We're seed planting all the time to drive top and bottom line growth. Complementing the balanced portfolio was our relentless focus on new products and technologies, which helped us to differentiate. Innovation remains the lifeblood of the organization and we continue to win big in the marketplace.
And we've got some really good stuff to talk about today. As we're really excited about the Gulfstream new 60500 series planes that were announced earlier this week. And we have several innovative Honeywell Technologies on board including our avionics and mechanical portfolios. A sampling includes synthetic vision, wireless connectivity, cockpit avionics, traffic and 3 d airport maps and our APUs and environmental controls. We also have another first, the Gulfstream flight deck called Symmetry will include for the first time ever integrated Honeywell touch screens that will be used for cockpit systems controls, flight management, communication, checklists and monitoring weather and flight information.
This new approach reduces pilot workload while improving communications in a more natural and intuitive way. These new products are part of our company wide aerospace, in September we announced that Bombardier Business Aircraft will be the launch business aircraft manufacturer for Honeywell Aerospace's JetWave Ka band satellite connectivity system. Our JetWave hardware exclusively supports Inmarsat's forthcoming Get Connect service, which when it goes live in 2015 will provide flight connectivity virtually anywhere in the world. To put it in perspective, this will allow passengers to video conference, send and receive large file and access streaming content while on the move by enabling them to access Inmarsat service. This exclusive high speed connectivity will also enable us to differentiate our cockpits and mechanical systems through innovative data sharing and services, making aircraft and pilots more efficient.
In our scanning and mobility business, we're working with the United States Postal Service, one of the largest global mail carriers to deploy more than 75,000 units of our next generation mobile delivery device by year's end. This custom branded mobile device is based on our market leading mobile computing technology, the Dolphin 99EX, clever name, Used by postal carriers and mail processing employees, the device improves critical activities related to making on time deliveries including reliable tracking information, proof of delivery for priority mail and postal route navigation support. We're also excited about the growth we're seeing from Solstice, our new line of refrigerant insulation materials air solvents and solvents that have global warming potential lower than CO2. In September, at White House event, we announced that we will increase production of solstice products. And as a result will drive a 50% reduction in our annual production of high GWP hydrofluorocarbons or HFC on a CO2 equivalent basis prior to 2020.
We project that the use of our Solstice products will eliminate more than 350,000,000 metric tons of CO2 equivalent by 2025. That's equal to removing 70,000,000 cars from the road for 1 year. And in mobile air conditioning, we've had significant wins from global customers and expect our sales to continue to ramp as Solsys helps customers meet CAFE standards in the U. S. And the new MAC regulation in Europe, which goes into full effect 2017.
With the increased order book for Solsys applications and the new capacity coming online, Fluorines is positioned for a terrific growth in 2015. If I take a look at where we stand for the year with just 2 months about 2 months left, we're confident in our ability to deliver at the high end of the guidance we set for this year last December. As a reminder, we've stuck by our sales and earnings outlook all year, steadily increasing the low end of our performance our pro form a EPS guidance to reflect the strong year to date performance. And we're doing it again this quarter, raising the low end of our 20 14 EPS guidance by a nickel to $5.50 to $5.55 That's up 11% to 12% year over year, not bad at all. So turning to 2015 and you'll hear more from Tom on this.
We're going to continue to remain conservative on the global economy. We haven't counted on much from the macro environment historically and so far that's been a good call. We're confident in our continued outperformance because one, our portfolio is aligned to favorable trends like energy efficiency, clean energy generation, safety and security, urbanization and customer productivity to continue to trend positive. And 2, we have been conservative on costs. We're in the process of completing our annual operating plans and overall we see prospects for another good year in 2015.
As I mentioned already, we have a very healthy backlog and see positive order and win rates across the portfolio. We're also expecting another year of margin expansion. We're going to continue executing on our key strategies for growth, including penetration of technologies, while maintaining our cost discipline and ensuring we deliver the savings from restructuring projects that we funded for the last few years. Our strength of execution has Honeywell on the path to strong earnings growth and another year of outperformance in 2015, remaining on track to the long term targets we gave you back in mind. So with that, I'll turn it over to Tom.
Okay. Thanks, Dave, and good morning. On slide 4, let me walk you through the financial results for the Q3. As you can see some very strong numbers and every metric came in at or above the guidance we provided in July. Sales of $10,100,000,000 were up 5% on a reported and organic basis and the growth was pervasive throughout the portfolio.
We'll dive into some of the business specifics in a moment, but we're encouraged by the improvement in organic sales growth as we progress throughout the year. Remember it was 1% in the Q1, 3% in the 2nd quarter and now 5% in the 3rd quarter. On a regional basis, organic sales were up 5 percent in the U. S, 1% in Europe, 4% in China and double digits in a number of our other high growth regions. In Europe, we have experienced stable growth rates in the 1st three quarters of the year, modest growth rates which are very consistent with what we saw in 201220 13.
We are planning more of the same for Europe in the Q4 and into 2015. As for China, the growth was impacted by our deliberate shift of resins and chemicals exports to other parts of Southeast Asia. So excluding that, our China sales would have been up 7% in the in the quarter. On a similar basis, we expect China to grow sales faster than GDP for the full year. Segment profit growth and margin expansion were both strong in the quarter.
Segment profit increased 9%, while segment margins expanded 70 basis points to 17.4%, which by the way is 20 basis points more than our guidance. We had profit growth and margin expansion in each of our 3 SPGs, so again a balanced contribution across the portfolio. The businesses benefited from higher volume in the quarter and productivity continues to be a key driver of margin expansion. These elements more than offset inflation and our continued investments for growth in sales, marketing and product development. Items below segment profit were mostly as anticipated and so our net income increased 14% normalized for tax, not bad compared with a 5% sales increase.
Also we funded $21,000,000 of restructuring projects in the quarter, bringing the year to date total to approximately $120,000,000 The 3rd quarter tax rate came in at 24.6% versus 27.2% in 2013 and versus the 26.5% we planned. There are a number of moving parts that sometimes make the tax rates vary quarter by quarter. However, we continue to expect a tax rate of 26.5% for the full year consistent with our initial planning. So reported earnings per share of $1.47 in the quarter, up 19% versus the prior year. Normalizing for tax EPS would have been $1.43 up 14%, which is 0 point 0 $1 above the high end of the guidance we provided in July.
Even with essentially flat share count, we once again achieved double digit EPS, driven primarily by stronger sales and segment margins. Finally, free cash flow of $1,000,000,000 in the quarter was 12% higher than 2013 despite an approximate 28% increase in CapEx investment. Overall, another strong quarter, giving us confidence heading into the last 3 months of the year. Moving to slide 5, we're looking at Aerospace results, which as you will recall include transportation systems in both years. Aerospace sales were flat in the quarter on a reported basis reflecting the Friction Materials divestiture, but were up 3 while Transportation Systems saw continued strong top line organic growth.
Aerospace margins expanded by 100 and 50 basis points driven by productivity net of inflation where material productivity continues to be a significant driver. Also commercial excellence and the favorable impact of the Friction Materials divestiture. Starting with commercial OE, sales increased 5% with good growth in both Air Transport and Regional as well as Business and General Aviation. In ATR, we saw the continued benefit of higher OE build rates, while Business Aviation saw increased engine shipments coming with certifications on the Bombardier Challenger 350 and Embraer Legacy 500. Commercial aircraft sales were up 2% in the quarter with strong spares growth in ATR.
ATR had double digit spares growth with increased mechanical and electrical demand across the major regions. We're expecting the ATR aftermarket growth to be in line with flight hours in the Q4 and would characterize current airline buying activity as stable to modestly better. The ATR spares growth was offset by anticipated lower repair and overall activity and a decline in BGA RMUs that is retrofit modifications and upgrades. You will recall that RMU sales growth has been on a tear for the last couple of years making the comparisons to prior periods challenging. We're still excited by this business and continue to invest to develop new offerings.
Defense and Space sales returned to growth in the quarter increasing 3% and continued the improvement we've seen throughout 2014. You might recall we were down 8% in the 1st quarter and 1% in the 2nd quarter. So the trend as we predicted is improving. International programs continue to drive growth while double digit sales with double digit sales increases while our U. S.
DoD sales grew modestly. And government services declines continue to moderate on a year over year basis. Transportation Systems sales declined 10% on a reported basis, again reflecting the Friction Materials divestiture, but were up 4% organically. Once again, we saw strong turbo volume growth across our 3 largest regions, Europe, North America and China. And in each of these regions, our volume growth was attributable to light vehicle gas applications where we continue to see increased global penetration.
We also saw our European commercial vehicle volume more than double in the quarter as we continue to benefit from new programs following implementation of HERO6 emission regulations in the region. On slide 6, we're looking at ACS results for the quarter. Sales were up 9% on a reported basis and 4% on an organic basis, again at the high end of our guidance. The difference in the two rates principally reflects the contributions of Intermec. ESS sales, so the products businesses, were up 6% organically continuing the trend of progressively stronger growth we have seen in each quarter in 2014.
It's hard to single out one business in the ESS portfolio because the growth was very broad, but scanning mobility and industrial safety accelerated the most. ESS benefited from new product introductions, higher U. S. Residential sales, which benefited both ECC and Security, U. S.
Nonresidential improvement in ECC, fire and industrial safety and further penetration in high growth regions, particularly in China, where ESS once again had double digit sales growth in the quarter. Building Building Distribution Businesses offset by flat sales in Building Solutions. We are encouraged however as Building Solutions has seen an increase in North American service and energy retrofit orders. Both the Global Solutions backlog and service banks are up handsomely from the same point last year supporting our outlook for sales acceleration in 2015. In the non residential sector, the trends are similar to the first half of the year.
In the ESS products businesses that serve non residential, we've continued to see modest growth in commercial products in commercial products throughout the Q3. However, we did see an acceleration of growth on the industrial side with strength in the Americas business particularly. We anticipate further improvement in the Q4 and into 2015 on the commercial and industrial product side. As for Building Solutions, I mentioned that the backlog and service banks are up year over year and we continue to expect energy efficiency projects to support global acceleration into next year. ACS margins expanded 40 basis points to 15.9% in the quarter and were up 50 basis points excluding the minor dilution from M and A.
ACS continues to benefit from higher volume, commercial excellence and productivity net of inflation, while also continuing to invest for future growth. One such investment area is Connected Homes, where we are quite excited by the roadmap of future integrated in heating, air conditioning, security and lighting control. Already we have more than 1,000,000 Internet connected devices. Moving to slide 7, Performance Materials and Technologies. PMP sales were up were $2,500,000,000 up 7% organically and were above the high end of our guidance, driven by stronger than expected results in both UOP and Process Solutions.
UOP sales increased 8% in the quarter, driven
UOP
orders trends in gas processing, particularly at Thomas Russell. At the end of the Q3, UOP's backlog stood at $2,600,000,000 driven by strong customer adoption of new technologies and investments in new capacity. In Process Solutions, we are encouraged by the accelerated growth of 5%, driven by our advanced solution software and service businesses as well as higher sales in field products. High growth regions remain a huge priority for Process Solutions and they delivered double digit sales growth from China, India and the Middle East. Orders growth also continued at a strong pace continuing the 2nd quarter trend and the HPS backlog is up nicely over the same point in 2013.
As we will preview later on, we're expecting the sales improvement in the second half of this year to continue into 2015 for HPS. Advanced Materials sales increased 7% in the quarter, also continuing the trend we've seen throughout 2014. We saw volume increases across the businesses with particular strength in flooring products was up double digits driven by new low global warming potential product. Segment margins and PMT were up 20 basis points to 17 0.5 percent consistent with our expectations driven by higher volume and productivity net of inflation partially offset by price
raw headwinds in resins and chemicals and
continued investments for growth. HPS converted particularly well continuing its successful business transformation and benefiting from the growth I mentioned in higher margin Advanced Solutions and Software Advanced Solutions Software and Services. UOP continues also to deliver outstanding profitability. So I'm on slide 8 with a preview of the 4th quarter. We're expecting sales of $10,300,000,000 to $10,400,000,000 approximately flat reported or up 3 percent on an organic basis.
And again, this assumes a euro rate of $1.25 for the quarter. As a reminder, we're facing a tougher set of comps in the 4th quarter as organic sales were up 5% in the Q4 of 2013 versus only 1% in the Q3 of 2013. Segment margins for the 4th quarter are expected to be up approximately 120 basis points with pro form a earnings in the range of $1.37 to $1.42 per share, up 10% to 15% versus the prior year. As a a reminder, we're still planning a full year 2014 tax rate of 26.5 percent. So that implies the 4th quarter tax rate to be approximately 28.8%.
For Aerospace sales on a reported basis are expected to be down approximately 3%, reflecting the year over year absence of friction materials in the quarter. On an organic basis sales are expected be up approximately 2%. And as a reminder, in the Q4 of 2013, Arrow recognized a significant IP litigation settlement resulting in a royalty gain of $63,000,000 in Defense and Space that was offset by OEM payments in BGA. Both of these items were included and therefore netted out in sales and segment profit at the Aerospace level last year. In the Q4, commercial OE sales are expected to be up mid teens on a reported basis and that's mid single digit excluding the year over year impact I mentioned from the higher BGA OEM payments.
The growth is driven by the favorable trend in demand for high value business jet platforms where we have significant new engine content. Commercial aftermarket sales are expected to be up low single digit in the quarter with an improvement in airline and business jet repair and overhaul activity as evidenced by the increase we've seen in shop receipts. However, this strength will be partially offset by more modest spares growth driven by declines in VGA, RMU activity that I mentioned earlier. Defense and Space sales are expected to be up slightly excluding the impact of the royalty gains in the Q4 of 2013 I discussed earlier. In Transportation Systems, we're expecting sales to be approximately flat on an organic basis, primarily due to challenging comparison in the prior year.
You'll recall that in the Q4 of 2013, TS was up 15%. We're expecting Transportation Systems to have good volume growth in the Q1 of 2015, driven primarily by new launches entering the market. As for Aerospace margins, we expect an increase of approximately 200 basis points in the 4th quarter, driven by significant productivity improvements across the portfolio and commercial excellence. Continued focus on driving productivity and direct material costs and the benefits from functional transformation are helping to support the growth investments we're making in the business as well as to drive the improvement in profitability. For ACS, sales are expected to be up approximately 4% on an organic basis, excluding an approximate 2 percent headwind from FX.
We expect both ESS and BSD to grow in the low to mid single digit range on an organic basis, supported by the trends we're seeing in our short cycle order rates. This is also supported by continued growth in our projects backlog in the Service Bank and Building Solutions that we mentioned earlier. ACS margins are expected to be up approximately 60 basis points with continued benefits from productivity in high growth regions. In PMT, sales are expected to be up approximately 2% on an organic basis. The strong and improving growth rates we have seen throughout the year across the PMT portfolio including in the Q4 are being temporarily offset by the previously signaled decline in UOP sales for the Q4 in the range of 8% to 9%.
And to remind you, we had an exceptionally strong Q4 in 2013 for UOP, where sales were up 17% organically, needless to say a difficult comparison. On the other hand, a higher mix of licensing revenue in the 4th quarter will result in a tailwind to UOP and PMT margins. In HPS, the favorable orders backlog growth will support 4th quarter sales acceleration, which will also carry into 2015. HPS margin expansion will also continue. In Advanced Materials, we anticipate another quarter of broad sales growth.
However, resins and chemicals will continue to face lower margin rates exacerbated by planned plant outages and price raws pressures. Overall PMT margins in the quarter are expected to be up approximately 60 basis points versus 2013 driven by UOP and HPS. Let me move to slide 9, where I'd like to refresh everyone on our full year outlook for 2014. As you know, we take a conservative view on sales expectations, we tend to do very well. And I think 2014 demonstrates this.
Our sales are coming in a little better than where we planned, whereas we've raised our EPS guidance three times during the year. As Dave indicated, we are taking EPS guidance up a third time, this time to a range of $5.50 to $5.55 up 11% to 12 percent over 2013. So another year of double digit earnings growth. This is our planning model and we'll continue to follow it. As you see on the page, we've tightened our sales range to $40,300,000,000 to $40,400,000,000 up approximately 3% to 4% versus the prior year.
And as per segment margins, we're expecting the full year to be approximately 17% or up 70 basis points over 2013. Again, this puts us at or above the high end of the sales and margin guidance we shared with you last December. The full year outlook by individual segment is similar to what we shared in July. Considering the performance year to date, we continue to feel confident in the segment margins for each business 19.5% for aero, 15% for ACS and 18% for PMT. Strong performance across the portfolio with every business contributing to the 70 basis points of segment margin expansion.
While there's still work to do to ensure we deliver 2014, we have commenced our 2015 planning. On slides 10 and 11, I'll walk you through some of our key planning assumptions and initial thoughts by business. While it's still early, slide 10 lays out some of our current views. From a macro perspective, we're not expecting much in terms of global GDP growth, slightly north of 3%. As I said earlier, we continue to be conservative in our planning and 2015 is consistent with that thinking.
Our short cycle businesses represent about 55% of our sales and we're expecting continued growth from new products and technologies in the short cycle. Examples include products derived from our Solsys molecules and PMT and our new platform launches in transportation systems. Our growth in 2015 will also be supported by continued favorable end market trend, a modest improvement in non residential spending benefiting both the commercial and industrial businesses and continued flight hour growth. On the long cycle side of our business, which represents the remaining 45 percent of our sales, we have good visibility in the growth for 2015 based on 1, the strong order rates 2, our robust backlogs and 3, the capacity from our new plant. We will benefit from the increased oil and gas investments globally, particularly in the down stream markets where the build out continues with both UOP and Process Solutions well positioned for growth.
Aero will also contribute to organic sales growth based on our expectations of a ramp up in new BGA OE platforms and the single digits for the year, which will also drive higher sales in 20 single digits for the year, which will also drive higher sales in 2015. So from a total Honeywell perspective, the strength in the U. S. Dollar will likely be a minor headwind in 2015. Our largest exposure to the euro is in transportation systems where we have locked in for 2015 already.
With that to give you a very rough sensitivity if the euro were to go to say $1.10 we would expect $0.10 EPS impact for the full year, manageable exposure. And right now we're at $1.28 but we will keep our eye on it. Overall, the below the line items for 20 15 remained stable. Even with the recent investment market slide and the continued low interest rate environment, we are currently expecting pension income to be roughly neutral next year and continue to not expect a significant required contribution to any of our plans for the foreseeable future. Finally, we anticipate the continued benefits from our proactive restructuring activities to yield 125 $1,000,000 of incremental savings in 2015.
I'm now on slide 11, which depicts our preliminary growth outlook business compared to the expected growth in 2014. The colored arrows denote whether we currently see the growth rates improving. Improving, remaining steady, so growth similar to 2014 or receding. Again, this assessment is based on our preliminary of the key macro inputs and variables, our current orders and backlog and the things we're in control of from an execution perspective. As you can see, there are a lot of green arrows, again driven by our great positions in good industries, new product introductions, high growth region expansion and confidence in our long cycle backlog.
In Aerospace, on the commercial side, ATROE growth is expected to be similar to 2014, but with an improvement in the second half of twenty fifteen and into 2016. This is based on the build rate schedules and ramp up at Airbus A350 and other new platforms. In BGAOE, we expect the continuation of growth to outpace the market with strong shipments of new engines on new business jet platforms like the Bombardier Challenger 350 and Embraer Legacy 500. We are well positioned in the medium to large BGA segments, which are expected to grow the most in the next 5 years. Dave also referenced earlier our excitement around the launch, of the new Gulfstream 50600 platforms with the first flight of the G500 scheduled in 2015 and shipment starting soon thereafter.
We have been working with Gulfstream for some time in developing these products, so we don't expect to incur significant R and D as relative to these platforms that you normally might expect at the rollout of a new commercial platform. These and other new platforms support the continued growth in our ATR and VGA installed base and service businesses. Of course, the growth has to be profitable, so we also continue to focus on the cost side with planned cost productivity in direct materials and functional spending along with process improvements, which will further events, inventory levels, the customer buying and inventory pattern. We anticipate that sales will grow slightly better than they have in 2014 with an expected improvement in airline repair and overhaul activity and higher engine maintenance events in BGA. Defense and Space is expecting a modest sales increase call it low single digit in 2015 based on the strength of the international business, which represents about 25% of the portfolio.
Our recent win rates support this outlook and we also expect the full sequester remain in place with the U. S. Portion of the business stabilizing. Finally, Transportation Systems is poised for continued growth in 2015 driven by significant new launches, modestly better European light vehicle production and the acceleration of gasoline turbo penetration particularly in the U. S.
And China. For ACS, we're expecting similar growth in ESS to what we've seen throughout 2014. This growth will be led by new product introductions, further penetration in high growth regions and continued non res recovery. As a reminder, roughly 75% of the ACS portfolio serves commercial and industrial markets, where we tend to be tied more so to retrofit activity than in new construction. So our portfolio is well positioned to capitalize on improvements in these areas.
On the commercial product side, we've seen modest sales improvement over the course of 2014, which we expect to continue into 2015 with better growth in the U. S. Driven by improvement in ECC and Fire Systems Business. In the industrial markets, we're expecting higher sales of industrial safety equipment, particularly in the Americas, which represent about half of our exposure. Residential growth will continue, particularly in the U.
S. Where we're accelerating our investments in the connected home space. And in Building Solutions which is a longer cycle business sales growth has been muted year to date, but we're encouraged by the improvement of project orders and services backlog which will benefit in 2015. In PMT, our robust orders growth and backlog position at both UOP and Process Solutions support growth acceleration. PMT continues to benefit from oil and gas investments occurring around the world.
You're probably aware we're primarily focused on the midstream and downstream segments. These are less impacted in the near term segments might be by any reduction in capital spending that could come from recent crude oil price declines. In fact, most of our UOP and HBS backlogs will be executed over the next 2 or 3 years and are for projects where the bulk of our customers' capital has already been spent. The risk of cancellations is low and is already reflected in our initial planning framework. Lower oil prices also mean lower fuel prices at the pump, which drive more demand for refined products plays to the strength of our portfolio.
Also, we're excited by the recent loosening of U. S. Restrictions on energy export and are well positioned to win business in related verticals like liquid natural gas. And last, in Advanced Materials, we expect to continue benefit from our sulfice products and higher production volumes in resins and chemicals. Given the balance of these various dynamics, we are encouraged about our prospects for 2015.
We are in the middle of our annual planning process and we look forward to providing you with more details regarding our 2015 guidance during our outlook call on December 16. You can expect that we'll count on only modest sales growth and we'll stay conservative on costs so that we deliver earnings growth on a basis consistent with our 5 year plan. Let me wrap up on slide 12. The strong Q3 results came from every part of Honeywell. We have a solid and diverse portfolio and management team focused on execution.
Combined, these enabled us add to our performance track record as we exceeded our guidance on sales, margins and EPS. With 1 quarter left to go, we are confident in our ability to continue outperforming despite the continued slow growth macro environment. We're to continue investing in our future with a focus on profitable sales growth. This means investing in high ROI CapEx, in new product development and in sales and marketing resources, particularly in high growth regions. The investments are paying off.
You can see it in the results. As we turn our attention to 2015, we recognize the uncertainty of the macro environment, but this is not new for us. We have and will continue to plan conservatively. Also we're confident that our portfolio is well positioned for continued outperformance. Our order trends both short and long cycle point to to accelerated sales growth for next year that should enable continued strong improvements in our profitability.
And we will continue to execute to deliver 2014, 2015 and beyond. So with that, Elena, let's go to Q and A.
Thanks, Tom. Leah, we will now take our first question.
Very good. The floor is now open for questions. You. Our first question is coming from Scott Davis of Barclays.
Hi. Good morning, guys.
Hi.
Thanks for helping the market go up today. We needed it.
Yes, I agree. Hey, I
got to give you crap about something Dave. I can't go a conference call without criticizing you. But 16 slides are not a word on M and A or buybacks or any cash reinvestment. I mean what's you've had a nice pullback here. I mean what's holding you back from buying back some shares?
First of all, I don't think that we ever provided a chat on commenting on that. So that's not unusual.
No, I know.
I guess 19%, 14% depending upon how you want to look at it doesn't suffice. So I understand. But at the end of the day, our strategy is still the same. It's to stay opportunistic on both the M and A side and the share repurchase side. And I think M and A conditions are starting to improve with the kind of pullback we've seen.
So who knows how things develop. I'm not promising anything. You never know where things are going to go. But at the end of the day, times are getting better to buy. So we'll see what happens.
What Dave, what is the ideal size of transactions? I mean in the past you've done some pretty I mean, you've done some pretty interesting deals and some of them a little bit big. I mean, would you be willing to go a little larger in size where there's some value now?
Well, I've always said, I never say never on doing anything large. So we'll say, I don't know, $5,000,000,000 to $10,000,000,000 But at the end of the day, we've never done it either. It doesn't mean we won't, but I've never done it. We still continue to maintain a very active pipeline of projects from small stuff to big stuff. And we're going to keep doing that.
And who knows maybe someday something bigger strikes. In the meantime, we still keep looking at stuff that's more bite sized, more manageable. And it's tough to predict where these things go. As Ann Madden keeps reminding us, you kiss 100 frogs to find the I guess in my case the princess. So it's just one of those things that we're going to keep looking at and keep working.
And just lastly, non res has been a bit of a mystery this year, but looks like you made some positive commentary there. I mean, do you see projects as finally breaking ground where you've got some visibility that we can make some shipments? I mean, this quarter was pretty good
actually. Yes. I would say, you've been hearing me say now for over a year I think that we've been seeing increased quote activity, but no results from it. We're finally starting to see some slight improvement in growth rate from what we've seen in some of our other businesses. I'd like to think that that portends a trend.
We're not ready to declare that yet, but I do believe the time has come. And for me part of this is just the aftermath of the recession. We said the time, how you went in is likely how you're going to come out. And it was stuff that went in quickly like aircraft spares came out quickly. Stuff that went in slowly like non res construction has been slow to come out.
And I think we're finally at that point where we're in the kind of slow to come out range. I don't expect a boom, but I still think it's going to be a tailwind for us.
Good. Well done guys. Thanks and I'll pass it on.
I'm sorry Scott. What was that? He must have gone on to the other call already.
Our next question comes from Steve Tusa of JPMorgan.
Hey, good morning.
Hey, Steve.
So just on UOP, I think people are obviously a little bit worried about what's happened with oil prices here. Could you maybe just get into specifics on what percentage of UOP specifically is kind of oil price exposed if you will? I mean I know maybe there's like some offshore projects that they may be involved in FPSOs. I'm not sure. Just want to get some further clarity on that.
And I totally understand the positive long term trends, but UOP is obviously one that people worry about every day. So just maybe if you could give us a little bit color there.
Steve, last thing I'd ever expect from you is a bouquet, but not even a flower or a rose petal or something. Maybe a little bit?
Solid quarter, I guess.
Well, thank you. I'll take what I can get.
You're doing okay. I never worry about you. You're doing fine.
Here's how I think a reasonable way to think about it is, if we take a look at our overall sales, so about 15% of it is represented by oil and gas in total. So that is not just UOP, but includes process. If you broke out that 15 points, 12 points of it are the mid to downstream segment. So, yes, there is some upstream, but not a huge amount. And when we think about oil prices, Tom was talking about some of this that pump prices tend to be sticky in both directions.
And when oil prices are going down, that's a good thing for refiners. So all of those projects, especially if the money has already been spent, we really don't see it having that much of an impact over the next 2 or 3 years. Most of those projects are still going to get done. We also think over the long term there's some natural floors here that exist. And there's been a big increase in oil production over the past year.
It's up something like 3% in total with a big chunk of it driven by the U. S. But there's a natural floor that occurs at about $80 when you look at shale oil production. So and where a lot of capacity just goes offline, so it gets the supply to be in much more in balance. So overall, I really don't see it having that much of an impact to UOP.
It might have some. There might be some projects that go a little bit sideways. But overall, very manageable is the way I think about it. Tom, I don't know if there's anything you want to add. Just I mean there's discussion of cancellations and we've thoroughly assessed our backlog and we're really not seeing anything meaningful.
As Dave said, there's a natural floor. And maybe if you get significantly below that, you might see more activity. But we're the only impacts are minor delays in project financing, but really won't have really haven't shown any impact on the
balance sheet.
And then Dave just one last question following up on Scott's question about buybacks. When you think about kind of the reticence to buy stock back at this stage given the prior experience, and just worried about buying close to the peak. I mean, how do we think about that in terms of your relative valuation and the relative attractiveness of your stock? Because I mean it doesn't seem like the stock is holding up as well as it should in these pullbacks. And so is it does the mindset change if they're not giving you even though we're at kind of a tough economic time, if people aren't giving you the relative credit, does the mindset change?
No, not really. I would say going back to what I said before is we're going to stay opportunistic. We have a lot of faith in our ability to continue growing and I think we certainly demonstrated that this quarter. And when it comes to both repurchases and M and A, we're going to stay opportunistic and having money gives you opportunities. Once the money is gone, the opportunities aren't there anymore.
So we're going to continue to drive really strong earnings growth, especially versus our peers with or without a buyback. And it's always an opportunity for us. Great. Thanks. You're welcome.
Our next question comes from Nigel Coe of Morgan Stanley.
Thanks. Good morning. Hey, Nigel. It sounds like buybacks are a hot topic this morning. So I won't go there.
But I do want to switch to the 15 framework if you like. And thanks for the detail. That's really helpful. And I guess the top line it will be to our extent by the macro. But should we think about your margin expansion and what you can control?
And obviously this year is very strong with a fairly weakish top line year to date. But next year based on the restructuring pipeline, do you think you can be in line with 70 bps long term
the of all, same thing, not even a rose petal?
No, no, great quarter.
Not even a splash of toilet water, is that something?
I'm splashing away here.
Well, first of all, it's too early for us to declare that we're in the middle of the planning cycle and we just don't do that. So in December is when we talk about it. But overall, I think you can expect something that's consistent with our 5 year plan. Because as you recall in the 5 year plan, we were pretty conservative on what we expected over 5 years from the global economy. Well, I guess fortunately and unfortunately, the fortune side as we plan for it that way, so we're prepared.
The unfortunate part is it's turning out that way. We kind of hope that there might be a nice surprise at some point. So we'll talk a lot more about it on Tom's call. What date is that? December 16.
December 16. And we'll talk about it more then. But you can expect something that's consistent with our 5 year plan where you'll look at it and go, oh, we're still on track.
Okay. No, that's fair. Thanks, Dave. And then one of the real hallmarks of Honeywell over the past decade has been growing top line, but keeping fixed costs flat or in some cases down. This year SG and A has been growing quite a bit ahead of sales.
And I'm wondering, I mean, there's obviously a lot of moving parts in SG and A and COGS, but how much of that increase in SG and A is growth driven? And I'm thinking here about initiatives like Huey.
Well, I mean, quite honestly, I don't really look at the SG and A line all that much. So I should describe it more as how I do look at it. On the sales side, we have been adding feet on the street when you look at high growth regions and that's one of the reasons that you're seeing such good performance there, because if you have great products and services and one guy covering a country, you're just not going to sell those funds. You got to have somebody who can be out there and can represent. I do know on the G and A side that's going down because a lot of that is part of functional transformation.
So you think about legal, finance, IT, HR, all that stuff is going down consistent with functional transformation. So all the stuff that we've talked about is continuing to happen and I suppose we can get a better SG and A answer for you.
Happy to help, Robert.
Okay, great. Thanks. And just a quick one for Tom perhaps. On the hedge on TS for next year, I believe that's
a new
that's I don't think you hedged in the past. So number 1 is, is that new? And second is there anything we need to think about in terms of hedge accounting and sensitivity to certain rates?
You are correct. It is new. And I'll turn it over to Tom to discuss further. Yes. I mean it's at or around current rates now Nigel is essentially the way to think of it.
So if you think of the current exchange rates for TS, it essentially locks us into what you'd say. But there's no mark to market effect? No. It's a pure hedge accounting. The mark on the hedges goes to similar translation or goes below the line outside of operating offsets.
Because at the end of the day, the change in the thought process has been historically, I've been pretty adamant about never hedging on translation just because I think over the course of 20 years you're basically out the cost of hedging. This year, I'd say, while there's always the possibility it could go the other way because these things are unpredictable, the prospect of it going to 1 $10,000,000 $1.20 I think is very real. And we looked at it and said better to say protect ourselves on half or so of our exposure and forego a bit of that upside just to protect ourselves on the downside in what could be a tougher macro again. And that was the thought process behind it. And we were able to do it with a very good Our
Our next question comes from Steven Whittaker of Bernstein Research.
Hey, thanks. Good morning. And Dave, I'm going to save you the pain of soliciting another compliment and just say good quarter to all the guys inside the SBGs, okay? We'll leave it there.
Thank you, Steve. As you probably noticed, I'm a very needy person.
I do. And that's as long as that makes you keep delivering, I have no problem talking about I also remember you often talking about telling investors now that we've gone through the turnaround some years ago, what are we going to do with the cash? Don't worry, we're not going to blow the cash. To the extent that you are ramping up M and A and Roger's out there looking pretty aggressively, I'm sure as well, what are kind of the minimum financial hurdles we should still think about for kind of mid to large size deals that you're thinking about in terms of return on capital or otherwise, the stuff that Ann would actually let pass through for example?
Our hurdles are not going to change. And they're the same ones that we've used for 13 years. And that's accretive in the 2nd year. IRR clearly above the cost of capital. So think of it as in the 11%, 12% range.
And ROI above 10% in the 5th year and that's all in. So that includes all the amortization and everything else. So it's a more difficult hurdle than people might think. And at the end of the day regardless of the size, we'll be able to demonstrate 6% to 8% of sales as cost synergy, because I don't want to count on any sales synergies as you know. And I want to make sure that we stay disciplined as hell in terms of our deployment, so we're never going to panic.
The nice thing about it is we have a terrific organic growth prospect. So it's not like I have to do M and A in order to deliver. And that's why we construct our 5 year plan the way we do so that you would look at it and go, geez, these numbers are awfully good, whether they do M and A or not. So I never want to feel panicked and we don't. So you can expect that if we whatever we do, whatever we do end up going, whether it's a bunch of small stuff, something big, various big things, depending on how you want to classify it, it's all going to meet those criteria.
Okay. And Tom a little bit on how you're starting to think about pension. I'm sure you'll go into more detail in December. But given rates direction and all of that, how should we think about sensitivities in the current accounting structure?
Yes. Good question, Steve. We when you look at if you drew the line today for pension expense considering that given the most recent market developments and the low interest rate environment, we'd be about flat year over year for pension expense. As I said, right now, no foreseeable contributions from a cash perspective in the next couple of years. Mark to market wise for 2014, as you know, if there is one, we would do it in the Q4.
Right now, again, based on the assumptions as we understand them today, at least for our major plans, the U. S. Plans, there would not be a mark to mark. Okay.
And if I could just sneak one more in, which is in UOP those CapEx investments, how do you see that continuing to play out through the next year?
I think well, I mean, in terms of cap we peak in 2015 in terms of the expenditure level. But as you know, starting in the second half of this year, we've got some of that capacity coming online. This year, mostly for the selfless product portfolio and a little bit in the UOP catalyst. But those plants as we've said over and over again are pretty much hit the ground running at near full capacity. And so when you look at the growth rates that you're seeing in PMT, that 7% that's a reflection of being able to put that capacity to work right away.
Okay. Great. Thanks.
And the projects are on track, which is always a good place to be when you've got full plan.
Okay. Thanks a lot.
Our next question comes from Jeff Sprague of Vertical Research.
Good morning. I've been brushing up on my accent, Dave. I think it was a pretty good quarter.
I think it was wicked good myself.
Hey, just a couple of little cleanup things. On UOP, can you give us a sense just following up on that last comment from Tom, what type of top line benefit do you foresee in next year as those plants come on? I guess kind of the question is kind of the cumulative revenue weight of that capacity as it turns on.
I would say, just still a little too early to declare on any of that. We'll do more of that in December. I'd say you can expect that UOP is going continue to do well.
And it's a and I'd add it's a big driver for the incremental growth in UOP versus the growth rate we're seeing in 2014.
And then on International Defense where you're seeing some acceleration it sounds like. Can you give a little color on countries or programs where that's actually happening?
Yeah. Middle East, Israel, Turkey, some of the regions that you might expect that have the funding and where there's activity a little bit in India as well.
And this one might be a little bit in the weeds, but kind of getting into florins and the like. With the SEER transition coming in the U. S. Here in the 4th well really at the beginning of the year, Do you see any noise in the Q4 around that? Do you see signs that people are pre building?
Just anything to be aware of there?
No. I think I mean, we're really excited about flooring overall and the transition that we've got going. But nothing significant to that respect.
And then just a quick one and I'll jump off. Tom, you did end your remarks by saying accelerated organic growth in 2015. Obviously, you've also hedged the macro and everything. But are you suggesting you do have line of sight at least of being inside that 4% to 6% organic growth goal, which is kind of the compound goal after 2018?
Yes. I think Dave is telling me not to share anything until December 16, which I'm going to follow my boss' orders.
All right. Sounds good. Thanks guys and Elena.
See you.
Our next question comes from Andrew Obin of Bank of America.
Yes. Hi. How are you guys? Just to clarify on Advanced Materials. So why is it not growing faster in 2015 versus 2014 given that this is where the CapEx is going and Solstice is ramping up sorry?
And congratulations by the way.
Thank you. I thought I was going to have to beg again. No.
So, yes, we are seeing good growth in Advanced Materials Andrew. I mean in the quarter Advanced Materials grew 7% organically. So I think what we're saying is at this point, the continuation of that 6% to 6% single digit growth rate what we're expecting for next year given it's still early to date.
Yes. Just a reminder on how to read that chart, the side arrows mean the growth rates themselves for 2015 compared to the growth rates for 2014. So as Elena points out, we've seen really decent growth, especially in the second half in the advanced materials portfolio, including in Fluorine or led by Fluorine. So we're expecting that trend to continue in 2015. So I think it's a good story.
Got you. We had a whole page of green arrows. You'd be asking how could we possibly believe the environment could be that good.
I appreciate that. And just a comment on DSD. You sort of commented that you're seeing non res accelerating. Could you just give more color on what specifically you're saying? What areas?
Because it would be really good news if we are seeing non res cycle pickup.
Yes. I think it's been moderate. I mean, I don't want to overplay the pickup on the commercial piece of the non res. But we are seeing a significant amount of quotation energy vertical. The municipalities and other institutions are also coming along.
But overall, the orders are starting to pick up. We'll have a good we're expecting good orders story of performance in the 4th quarter that should serve us well in 2,006.
Terrific. Thank you.
Thanks, Andrew.
Our next question comes from Howard Ruble of Jefferies.
Good morning. Thank you very much. Hey, Howard. Thank you. Well, no, thank you, Dave.
I mean, numbers like this only come from Honeywell.
Now that's what I'm talking about, Howard. Thank you.
Boy, this is really amazing, the suck ups we're doing here. But anyhow.
Only if it's deserved.
No, right, exactly. You know that. But to talk about a couple of business fundamentals, talk about what you've done to make Intermec work right? It looks like it had a very nice top line contribution. The U.
S. Postal Service piece of business looks like its market share pickup. And when I walk into Starbucks, I see a Honeywell logo. So, what's gone there that's set you apart because this is a difficult market?
I was going to say, I appreciate you picking up on that one, because we're quite proud of everything we've done there, not just with Intermex, but by really pulling together several players in the industry and creating a one Honeywell approach that's really made a difference. And they all brought different technologies and perspectives whether it was handheld, Metrologic or Intermack. And I think our guys starting with the have done a great job pulling all that together and rationalizing it so that we expanded our offerings, pushed the technology and more so than others have including what we've been able to do with voice or Vocollect coming out of the Intermec acquisition and getting better coverage. Just being out there and being able to tell our story with feet on the street in a way that we weren't able to before. So it's really just a matter of running it better and taking advantage of the technologies that were brought together and running it better.
So when we look at the Intermec numbers year on year, they're up. It's hard to totally tell, but it looks like high single digits. So that's sort of I mean, I know that's only one part of everything you're doing there?
Yes. That's right, Howard. And I think that we're getting at the as Dave said, the technologies are very strong and they're complementary to what exists in the scanning mobility business. We didn't have printing. We didn't have voice.
We did have mobile computers, but Intermed had a very strong platform. So we've been able to integrate all three of those product lines nicely and to accelerate the growth there. And as you alluded to, the performance against our expectations were has been tremendous. And we if you look at the multiple the headline multiple versus where we are today, it's quite remarkable. It's also good how you know that we never count on sales synergies, which always provides a nice upside and we've gotten a pile of them here.
Thank you. And then one just final question sort of I'm not sure I'm going to ask it right. But as you look at new products that you're introducing with the R and D spend because in each of the business units you've talked about there being I'll call it growth investments. How are you sort of measuring the premium you're getting on the new products relative to the spend you're making? Are you how fast do you decide that, gee, this is working really well, let's put more in or no, it's not working very well and let's scale it back?
Well, that's something we defer to each of the businesses to make those kinds of decisions. And each of them has their kind of kiss or kill approach to all these projects. And some of it's by country, some of it's by business. So they're constantly looking at making sure that we get the biggest bang for the R and D buck. And I'd say it's one of the things that I would look at and say across the company, we still have opportunity for.
Sometimes we'll have a project that we look at and go, geez, this is going to cause sales to grow 8%, that's great. Let's do it. But we really don't push ourselves because it might be a business that could be growing 20%. We're just not thinking big enough for it. On the other side, there's still projects that we linger with too long or we focus on little stuff when we should be plumbering some of that and focusing on something bigger.
So I'd say we do a good job overall, certainly a hell of a lot better than we used to. But I still see more upside to being more disciplined on that in every business.
Thank you for your help today.
We hope we'll see what 4 shows. Thank you, Dave.
Our final question comes from John Inch of Deutsche Bank.
Thank you. Last but not least.
Hey, John.
Hi, guys. So congrats Dave. Thank you. So Tom you gave us the 15, I think you said restructuring tailwinds of 125. Just to kind of make sure we have the framework, could you tell us what remind us what your spending expectations are for 20 14 and then savings that would have been from 2013 and 14?
And then what you expect to spend in 2015 that dovetails with the 125?
Yes. I believe the actual savings from $13,000,000 and $14,000,000 is similar. It's in that $125,000,000 to $150,000,000 range for 2015. In terms the cash spend, I think for 2014 it would be about $200,000,000
We had an elevated Q1 restructuring charge offically with the sale of the e Aero shares. It's probably maybe for the just repositioning portion only, it's probably more like in the $1.40,000,000 $1.50 range in terms of spend. Ben, do you want to comment on next year?
Yes. I think next year, I would expect I mean, our unspent backlog as of the end of the Q3 is about 3 $50,000,000 a little less than that. And I would expect that we would spend $150,000,000 to $200,000,000 of that in 2000.
Yes. I mean that's where I was going with the B Aerospace share gains. Is this I mean is this all else equal, are we going to see some sort of a spending tailwind if will or absence of spending that could be actually material or impactful or perhaps you're thinking about some other offset because you guys are pretty good at sort of doing some matching opportunistically? Yes.
So John, I thought you were asking about cash before. Well, I was kind
of asking about both, yes. Okay. So right now, as
I said, our
expense our P and L expense of restructuring is about $120,000,000 this year. Yes. And we spent the cash that we had Next, we're always looking at opportunities. We every quarter we review with Dave. Every business reviews a portfolio of restructuring opportunities just like we do for M and A opportunities.
We look at them in a disciplined way, look at the paybacks, we look at the ROIs and so forth. And yes, it's true that we tend to look for opportunities to fund those restructuring. And yes, it's also true we have some potential funding capacity as we look out. But I don't think we've come to any conclusions at this point on what we're going to do in 2015. We'll take it opportunistically as we go through the year like we normally do.
That's fair. And then can I just follow-up? You guys are a very large aerospace company. And your commentary around aerospace and aftermarket is still pretty constructive kind of heading into next year. You do have happening trying to understand, would the analogy be perhaps to what happened during SARS and the possible impact on flight hours?
I'm just trying to understand at this juncture, how are you thinking about the planning process for the business next year as it pertains to flight hours perhaps based on past experience? Or is it just should we just really not be concerned about this?
Well, as usual, you can expect us to plan for some of the worst just so that we know what our downside is. I don't think that's what's going to happen here though just based upon what you read about Ebola. In terms of its actual impact on the U. S, in terms of how many people actually get ill at least from the best I've been able to glean, we don't expect much of an impact there. The thing you can't predict is what that fear quotient is going to do.
And as people just start to become afraid and as the meteor has something new to talk about, tough to predict where that will go. So I would say overall, I don't expect the actual impact in terms of illness to be consistent with what we saw with size. You still need to start to factor in what that fear quotient could do. And that we're not really going to know except over the next 2 or 3 months, I'd say. And we're going to plan, make sure that we have a plan to address it in the most conservative way possible just so we're prepared.
Okay. Well, thanks very much. Appreciate it.
You're Welcome.
So I want to hand the call back over to Dave Cote for some closing remarks.
Over the last few years, we'd have to say the global macroeconomy really hasn't provided much help. And we expect it's going to continue that way as we outlined in our 5 year plan back in March. As Tom and I both mentioned, conservative sales planning has clearly been the way to go and we're going to continue with that approach. It's probably obvious by now that we're pleased with our outperformance this quarter and this year and for that matter over the last few years. And we intend to continue outperforming consistent with our 5 year plan.
Within a slow global economy, we will get all the sales we can because of our great positions in good industries, our high growth region presence and focus and new products. With that sales growth, we'll continue to drive cost and process discipline through our focus on HOS Gold. So said more simply, we intend to continue outperforming. So thanks for listening and of course thank you to all our owners. I promise we won't disappoint you.
Thanks. Thank
you. This does conclude today's teleconference. Please disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day.