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Investor Day 2022

Mar 7, 2022

Mike Gallentine
VP of Investor Relations, Intermex

I would like to welcome everybody to Intermex's inaugural Investor Day, and thank you all for attending in person and for the audiences listening via online. Thank you for your interest, and we hope to be able to meet you in person one day coming up very soon also. I'm, by the way, Mike Gallentine, Vice President of Investor Relations. If you have any follow-up questions after this event as you go back to your office looking through the material, please feel free to reach out to me, and hopefully I'll be able to answer all of your questions.

Obviously, I will not be reading our safe harbor statement and non-GAAP statement, but I would like to call your attention to it and to let you know that for our complete list of safe harbor cautionary language, please refer to our 10-K that we have filed with the SEC. You can also see that on the website. We have our Regulation G non-GAAP reconciliations contained in the back of the slide presentation to the reconciliation to the nearest GAAP measures. Also today, before the break and at the end, there'll be another chance for Q&A, so we ask that you hold your questions until the breaks. Also, there'll be people with microphones so that the people that'll be listening via webcast will be able to hear the questions.

Please wait until we provide a microphone to you to ask the question so that everybody online can hear too. There are facilities around the corner, down the hall. Then there's the refreshments next door if you need to take a break. I'm gonna be turning the slide, the presentation over in a second to Bob Lisy. He's our Chairman, Chief Executive Officer, and President of Intermex. He's gonna provide an overview of kinda some of the history to the current day and the strategy. Joseph Aguilar, our Chief Operating Officer, will be talking about our customer service compliance and how we differentiate with our award-winning customer service. Randy Nilsen, our Chief Revenue Officer, talking about the market, our customers, our omni-channel strategy in retail and digital.

Buy-side chat will be a highlight of the day, I think, with some agents from the West Coast and East Coast talking about their experience with the customers and Intermex in the marketplace. Chris Hunt, our Chief Information Officer, will be talking about the technology and how our proprietary technology is really the basis for all that we do. Andras Bende, finally, to talk about the financials as well as some forward aspirations and our 2022 guidance as it relates to our strategy for this year. Let me turn it over to Bob Lisy, Chairman, President, Chief Executive Officer.

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

Oh, okay.

Mike Gallentine
VP of Investor Relations, Intermex

Yep.

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

Well, welcome you all. Thank you for coming today. I think we've got some good information to share with you, some stuff that you may have not had a chance to get as deep into the company in the past if you looked at us. You're gonna get a chance to meet what we think has been a really great management team that we've assembled. There've been a lot of change in our company as we've gone from, you know, a small private company of $40 million revenue to a company this year that pushing close to, you know, more than half a billion dollarsin revenue. You'll get a chance to meet some of the new talent and see what they do and how they perform in the company. I'm gonna go kind of into a little bit of the background.

You know, when we found Intermex as a company in 2009, the good thing about Intermex is it was a great company that had set itself in the right path in two really key areas. It had great technology, and it had focused in on Mexico and Guatemala, two most important markets in Latin America. As we continued to work through that business, we understood how to leverage that better. It made a really big difference between us and the competitors at retail. Our technology sets us apart. It processes much quicker than the competition. It's more reliable, and we built upon that strong presence in Mexico and Guatemala.

As you guys will see as we talk through a little bit more in the presentation in the next couple of hours, you'll see just how critical Mexico and Guatemala are to the overall Latin American business, both in terms of their size, but in terms of their margin. These are the two most profitable markets in Latin America, and two of the most profitable markets in the world in terms of margin per transaction. What we did is, you know, we took a look at the market, and we said we couldn't really go the way that everyone else has gone in the marketplace. You know, Western Union, MoneyGram, and all the big players had what we'd consider to be ubiquity. They were the companies like the large big box retailers.

It was difficult for us to do that, but it also wouldn't have been smart for us to do that because the wires and where the business was ZIP code by ZIP code, the kind of retailers that you'll meet later in today's event that really represent our kind of consumers and are there at the retail level and do the kind of business with them that responsive in the way that they need. We continued to build that out, and what we've done differently is have a business that's been built on highly productive retailers. Our average retailer performs at a level that's four or five times the level of the average retailer in the marketplace. Because of that, it's made our model so much more profitable. We continue to increase our proprietary network.

I don't know if you're aware of that, but we not just only pay through all the payers that everyone else does, but we have a payer network of our own. This network is really critical because that network enables us to go into the small villages and pay wires where some of our competitors do not. Some of the small villages are where a lot of the people come to the United States, particularly from Mexico, Guatemala, where we have that kind of presence. We really focused a lot on our customer management platform, and as a result, you'll hear us talk a lot about the quality of our service. If you call our customer service line, you'll hear get a live person in probably five seconds or less. With some of the competitors, it'll take several minutes.

That service attribute is a big thing that sets us apart from our competitors at retail, but even sets us even further apart from our competitors at digital. We've invested in innovative and highly scalable technology. Hear us talk a little bit about our Check Direct product, which is something where we process checks for our retailers that enable them to be able to cash checks for their consumers who wanna come in and do more than one service. As we look at 2018 to current, and this is the period of since we've been public, you know, our revenue growth has been about 19% per year, which is very much outpaced anyone in the market, and we've continued that strategic agent growth. We've expanded more deeply into the western states.

We've got a greater percentage of our business now in California, Texas, and all of the Western states. When we started out in 2009, California was brand new to us, and today California is bigger than the whole company was in 2009. Texas is moving along and growing very quickly. We started offering during that period our digital offering, which is Intermex Online, which has been. We're really excited about our new app, which you heard our announcement this week, and we think that's gonna make it a lot easier for consumers to use us at online. But we're very focused on an omni-channel sort of approach to the market. We're not forcing people onto the online. We still think the business is very much at retail. We've expanded into the new regions, including Africa and Asia.

We go directly to Africa, and we process for third party into Asia, and we opened up Canada outbound. We've launched a general purpose reloadable card, which is the card that we think sort of bridges the gap between our consumers in going online. Therefore, today, one of the biggest obstacles isn't technology, but it's not being banked, and that card enables them then, once they have the card, to be able to go online and do a wire if they choose. What we've been able to do, we've had a long history of operating excellence. I mean, we've been public now 14 quarters, and we've beaten our EBITDA numbers 14 quarters. This quarter, I think this year in 2021 that passed, we beat and raised each and every quarter. I think we didn't in first.

We beat, didn't raise, but we beat and raised in second and beat and raised in third, and then we ended up beating those numbers. We've had a long history of excellence. There's a significant opportunity for growth. We still think in our existing markets, we're still way under-penetrated, and Randy will talk more about it in the Western region. We're very strong in the East, but the West is a place where there's still huge opportunities for us with empty ZIP codes and underperforming ZIP codes. We continued our digital investment, and we think that's gonna prolong our growth and give us a longer sort of runway. Again, we think that there's still a lot of life at retail, and we'll show you today that how retail in itself is actually growing faster than the GDP.

Whereas people think that, you know, it's all going to online, it's not the case. We'll show you how that the retail business is still growing faster than GDP is. We have a long track record of strong financial results. I mean, this year we're going to throw off more than $50 million in free cash. We've got about $110 million in free cash on our balance sheet, and we're gonna probably deliver close to $100 million in EBITDA, as you've heard our guidance. This next slide is a bit busy, and we probably won't go through a lot of this information. A lot of it will be done as we get into the different sections, Joseph and Randy and others speak.

You know, we really focused at the beginning on the operational excellence. We wanted to make sure that we cut a lot of the waste out of the system, and as a result, you'll see that other than some of the very biggest companies in the industry, our margins, EBITDA margins, are still up there near the very top because of the waste that we've cut out and efficiencies we've added. We continue to add those strategically located agents and continue to develop our digital app. We think that there's still a lot of opportunity for us both at retail and in the digital app. Talk a little bit about the team. As you can see, a lot of folks are kinda new to us, but they're not new to the industry.

Andras Bende, who you'll meet a little later, has a long history of working with GE and in the banking industry, has almost 20 years of financial tech experience. Randy Nilsen, who's our Chief Revenue Officer and has been here for most of the growth of the company. He's really been here since we were sort of in the earlier stages and delivered that growth, a long level of experience at Western Union and Sigue, one of the large independent players. Joseph Aguilar, who was the CEO of Sigue's European business, who's our COO. Chris Hunt, a long background at BB&T and others. We've joined with Juan Manuel Gonzalez, who's been a MoneyGram guy and a Bank of America guy, long history of really quality work and compliance.

Ernesto Luciano, who will not present today but is here, is our General Counsel. Peggy Scholzen is our new head of human resources. You'll get a chance to meet the team either up here on the stage or afterwards at the cocktail hour, hopefully. With that, I will introduce to you Joseph Aguilar, who's our Chief Operating Officer. Joseph has been with the company about two years. He has a long history and a very strong history in operations and in compliance. He's delivered great results for us. He was a senior person at Sigue and was their chief operating officer and then became the CEO of their European business. I think early in his career, he worked for some banks and things like that in the area of compliance. Brings a broad background.

Welcome Joseph to talk to you a little bit about operations, compliance, and stuff like that. Joseph?

Joseph Aguilar
COO, Intermex

Good afternoon, everybody. Put my glasses on here. As Bob said, I'm the Chief Operating Officer at Intermex, and I'm really thrilled to be here and introduce to you a lot of the things that we do in customer service and regulatory compliance and products. You know, when I look at my main role and responsibility, it's really focused on customer service and really the customer experience. How do we differentiate ourselves, not only in our products and our services and our regulatory compliance oversight, but also our engagement with our consumer? That's what really makes us different, I think, compared to the competition that we work with. Through our omni-channel solutions, we're able to meet our customers' needs wherever they are on their journey.

Whether they're recent immigrants to the U.S. or longer-term residents, fully banked or partially banked or unbanked, we're actually there to meet their needs and provide them a choice and the solution on how they wanna do a transaction with us. At our retail locations, our agents are in the communities that we serve. That's a big differentiator for us as well. We are where our customers live, socialize, and work, and that's important. Our partner agents, not unlike our consumers, are part of the community that we operate in. They know our joint customer extremely well. Like Intermex, our consumers have become comfortable and trust our agents. Their stores are many times the hubs of the community in where they operate and serve. Our agents assist our customers in their language to successfully complete a transaction with Intermex, and that's really fundamental.

Many of them come not knowing the culture or how to operate, and they're able to be assisted by our agents who help us help them be successful. Using our digital solutions, consumers can access our service anytime, 24/7 via mobile app or online, at our Intermex websites. Whenever they're ready, they can decide what they choose. They can pay for their transaction by debiting their bank account via ACH or debit card. They can also use a credit card to pay for their transaction. Again, at a digital option, our consumers need to be banked to be able to operate in that space. What's truly different between ourselves and our service online, and let's say those companies that are pretty much 100% online, is the support we provide to our consumers when they're online.

Our customer support is available via live chat or telephone in English or Spanish. We can answer any of their questions, again, to help them successfully complete a transaction with Intermex. At the center of our omni-channel solution is our high-quality, reliable service that our customers have come to expect from Intermex, whether they're at retail and now at digital. Whether at retail or digital, our consumers will receive a consistent level of personalized service. It's their choice. In addition to our wire transfer services, our portfolio of products are designed to help our consumers with the financial services they need to live in their daily lives. In many of the neighborhoods we serve, traditional banking offices are not very accessible, and culturally, many of our consumers are not comfortable doing business in a traditional bank due to language or other reasons.

Our products bridge that gap for our consumers. Our card products are branded with the Intermex name, and it's a name they trust and rely on to get their money to their families and also will rely on to use as a card. Our prepaid debit card or GPR card is a bank alternative for unbanked consumers. It's a reloadable debit card backed by an FDIC-insured bank, which allows our consumers to grow their balances with confidence. They can qualify for the card with a valid U.S. or foreign government-issued ID. They don't need a Social Security or ITIN to get the card, which really allows them now to participate in a financial services solution. These cards are reloadable at our agent locations, providing new opportunities for revenue for our agents as well.

Our payroll card is targeted to businesses that employ H-2A visa workers at no cost to the employers. It's an efficient method for seasonal workers to receive their hard-earned money in a safe and secure way. These card products allow consumers to pay for their wire transfers either via mobile app or on the web or at an agent retail location using this debit card. Additionally, cardholders can pay for goods and services at participating Mastercard retail locations or have access to cash withdrawals via ATMs. This product empowers our consumers to participate in the e-commerce economy with more opportunity for financial inclusion. Our CheckDirect service is a best-in-class check processing system that allows our agents to submit checks to pay for the receivables that they've generated for their wire transfers.

This service saves time for our agents because they don't have to go to the banks to make cash deposits, and it really creates an efficiency for them, and they can utilize their cash for other services. Additionally, this is a huge cost saving for Intermex in banking fees. The cost to process checks is pennies versus the cost to process over-the-counter deposits made in banks with our banking partners. Over 45% of our wire transfer receivables are collected via Check Direct. Our Card Direct solution allows consumers to use a debit card to pay for their wire transfers with a debit card at our agent locations. Additionally, they can get cash back when they're making a transaction with their debit card.

This really creates them an ability for them to have cash, do all their financial transactions there at the agent location. With our bill payment and money order services, consumers can meet their monthly bill obligations like utilities or mobile phone bills, or pay their rent with money orders. All of these services are fully integrated into our Intermex Direct POS system, making it easy for our agents to sell these products and services. It's one sign-on, one look and feel, which creates a very easy opportunity for our agents to offer these services. These services that are offered by our agents create more traffic for their businesses. It increases customer loyalty and provides a convenient one-stop shop for our consumers' financial needs. At the core of our products and services is our best-in-class customer service.

We really take pride in the service we provide to our consumers. With a team of over 600 employees in our call centers in Mexico and Guatemala, we provide culturally relevant service with care and respect along with regional expertise. These are our employees in our facilities using our systems that we offer the services through. Our commitment with service level agreements is unmatched in the industry. Our SLAs for average speed of answering a call is less than 5 seconds, as Bob mentioned earlier. Consistently quarter after quarter, our average speed of answering a call has been really around the 2-second range or less.

We've tested this solution with some of our investors and partners, and we've determined that when they've tested against competitors, sometimes they wait 10-15 minutes to get their phone call answered. That is a huge differentiator between ourselves and the competition. In the competitive environment that exists in an agent location where you might see three other money transfer providers, having that ability to pick up a phone immediately is critical at the agent location. Sometimes if the consumer waits too long on the phone, they'll hang up and pick up another phone to generate a transaction. Being able to pick up that call immediately is critical for our service. This level of service translates into an SLA that is less than 1% of hung up calls, which means abandon rate.

When a customer picks up a call, sits on hold too long, and they'll hang it up if they don't get their call picked up, that's an abandon rate. Our abandon rate quarter after quarter is consistently 0.0025% of total inbound calls that come in to our call center. Excuse me just a second. Behind these SLAs is a really robust quality assurance program where we monitor calls on an ongoing basis of our operators to ensure that the way they're engaging with our consumers is up to the standards that we've established. It also provides an opportunity for us to give guidance to our operators when they fail from our standards or gives us coaching or training opportunities with our employees as well.

To meet the needs of our business, the call center is continually looking to enhance its services and offerings. We are currently looking at additional sites for diversity in offerings as well as contingency sites as well. We want to be ahead of the curve, ahead of the service to ensure that we are meeting the needs of our business, whether that means additional sites, additional services, or being able to offer services in additional languages to be aligned with our sales team, whether we offer services in Tagalog, Arabic or Vietnamese, we want to be prepared to offer services as the company grows and diversifies its business. In addition to the excellent SLA results, what really makes the difference is our people and the personalized care we aim to give our consumers.

We know our consumers may not always receive the best service when they're out in the marketplace or the service that they deserve. When they call Intermex, we want to make sure that they feel the difference. We see our consumers truly as heroes, people who have left their country, their home, their families to start a new life and a better life for their families. We need to train our employees to understand our consumer. Most of our call center staff in Mexico and Guatemala are urban, educated, bilingual people who don't understand or may not understand the immigrant experience. However, it's important for them to understand what our consumers go through so that they can better serve them in their daily needs.

We train our employees empathy for our customers to assist them in helping them help their families. Every time one of our consumers picks up that telephone to ask for help from Intermex or to help with their transaction, we want them to feel that they are touching their families back home. As a foundation for our business and ability for our business to continue to grow, regulatory compliance is fundamental for our ongoing success and growth. Built into our core wire system is our robust compliance modules and programs. Compliance checks are conducted at the POS based on KYC thresholds that have been established by our organization and also legal requirements. Identification of remitters is obtained as required by law or aggregate larger amounts.

Additional information may be obtained by requesting or looking for enhanced due diligence information. Names of remitters and beneficiaries are verified against OFAC lists and other required sanction lists. Our compliance program is built on the strength of the AML pillars and best practices, which in some cases exceeds regulatory requirements. With over 100 qualified compliance professionals dedicated to the program, we continue to invest and grow our compliance program day by day, not only with new team members, new practices, new policies, but also new technologies as well, to create a much more efficient methodology to monitor and review transactions. Our real-time transaction monitoring system flags transactions for potential unusual activity based on dynamic filters that are established by our compliance teams, whether they be velocity, frequency, out of norm with normal patterns.

Those transactions are identified, flagged, and our team is dedicated to monitor these transactions in queues to ensure the transactions disposition is identified quickly. We take action quickly to release the transactions for payment, or we refer them for further investigation to our FIU team. 90% of all transactions that are identified as unusual are cleared within one hour of receipt. We have quite a bit of people dedicated to this process to ensure that we are being safe and secure about monitoring our transactions, but also that those transactions that are cleared are released quickly into the payment system. Bear with me here.

Looking at that last piece, when we talk about our agent monitoring program, in addition to having a strong checks and balances at our POS as well as our ongoing transaction monitoring system, we have an ongoing agent oversight program because it's at our agent locations where we engage directly with our consumers. Knowing who our agents are, it starts with the due diligence of our agents. We have an enhanced due diligence process to review our agents and their activity, their ownership, before they become agents with Intermex. Not only our sending agents, but also our paying agents as well. We have a rigorous agent oversight program that is risk-based, where we review agents on a periodic basis, to ensure that their activities are followed in accordance with our business and our policies and procedures.

We have an ongoing comprehensive training for our agents on a regular basis that's required by our policy as well as by the AML requirements to ensure that they are following processes and programs accordingly. We also make ourselves available to our agents for any questions, concerns that they may have by establishing regional compliance officers in their areas that'll visit their agents on a periodic basis to ensure that they have a connection and a communication with our compliance teams. Let me turn to the next page. This next slide is just a diagram of how the transaction flows within our organization from a compliance perspective and the key milestones that we touch through that process. At the agent location, an agent has a terminal where they capture the information of the consumer.

The identification as required based on amount, or threshold or aggregation total is captured by our agents. The transaction then goes into our screen against government sanction lists. It identifies any potential false positives, and then if it's cleared, it's gonna go to the next level of review in our real-time compliance functions. It'll check against velocity, it'll check against potential structuring. It'll check against movements that are not normal with that activity. That might be working hours. If a transaction start to occur outside the normal working hours of an agent, it may be flagged. If a transaction that they normally do volume exceeds that volume, those transactions may be flagged.

If a transaction amount exceeds the normal average transaction that exists within that agent location, it may be flagged for review. Once all those transactions have gone through that process, like I said, it will either be released to the FIU for further investigation, or it'll be released into our payment system for payments. A key part of our regulatory strength is that it allows us to operate in a safe and sound manner within the business. Because of our strong relationships, we're able to foster great relationships with partner banks. With our strength in compliance, our banking partners who review us on an annual basis understand who we are, understand the gravitas in which we address these programs, and understand our commitment to regulatory compliance.

That allows us to have a very broad network of banking partners. Why is that critically important? It's critical because our agents use our banking network to settle with us on a regular basis. Having that presence, having a broad network, and we're pleased to have one of our banking partners here with us today from Bank of America. It allows us to offer our services throughout the United States with the easy footprint of them being able to make deposits and pay their receivables with us. With that, I'm gonna introduce my colleague, Randy Nilsen, our Chief Revenue Officer. Randy.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Thanks, Joseph. Good afternoon, and thank you for being here. Let me just take a moment, if I may, and tell you a little bit about myself. I'm gonna be the guy that doesn't know how to advance the slides. Sir.

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Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Okay. I wanna use this one. A little bit about me. It was about 30 years ago. I was working for a small payments company, and word came down that a company named Western Union was going to acquire us. I didn't know anything about Western Union at the time. I did a little bit of research about money transfer companies, and I thought, "What a terrible industry to be in. People sending cash? No way. That's gonna die. I've gotta get out of this industry. I've gotta find a new job." That was 30 years ago when about $5 billion a year was being sent from the United States to Latin America. I'm gonna ask you to remember that $5 billion amount. Needless to say, it wasn't as bad of an industry as I originally thought it was going to be.

It was a fantastic industry, and I spent a number of years with Western Union. I was able to go open up the United Kingdom for Western Union. I came back from the U.K. They sent me to Canada and said, "Do the same thing in Canada. Open up that business for us." I came back, worked in a little bit of a head office assignment for a couple of years, and then several selling leadership positions around the United States and Canada for a number of years, and finished my last three or four years there, leading a team that opened up what we called back then emerging corridors. My first assignment was China and the Philippines, and we had such great success. We opened up Africa and the Middle East, and it was a really great run.

The president of Western Union left, went to this company named Jackson Hewitt. I followed him to Jackson Hewitt. About three years later, another money transfer company called saying, "We're looking to make a big acquisition. We'd love you to come run our sales and marketing team." They were the largest privately held money transfer company in the world at the time. I gladly went back into this space that I loved and worked with Joseph for a number of years there. Bob and I reconnected about six years ago here at Intermex, and I regularly tell the sales team that Bob has built such a great culture here. He's built a culture on transparency. It's quick-paced. It's metrically based. If you're gonna be a salesperson in this space, this is the company to be a salesperson in.

That's a little bit about me. Intermex. I've titled my few slides, The Intermex Way. Last Friday, I was meeting with a group of about a dozen, 10 or 12 sales leaders in our organization, and I asked them, "When I use the term Intermex Way, which I use a lot, what do you guys think of?" They shared these types of things. It's our culture, it's our DNA, it's our beliefs, it's our values. We strive for absolute excellence. That's important. We have a strong bias to do the right thing, to be profitability focused. We're dynamic. We're fast-paced. We're customer-centric. We sell value, not price. We focus on differentiators, both with our agent and our consumers. We're metrically based in our decision-making. We focus on details. We don't let the details get away from us, and we have disciplined execution.

That's what I'm gonna talk a little bit about today. I'm gonna relate that to our consumer and spend a few minutes on our consumer and how special our consumer really is. I'm gonna share with you the way we size the market and the way we attack that market from an omni-channel perspective. To begin with, I share this slide quite a bit with our sales team, and I say to them, "Anybody can sell the what. The good salespeople know how to sell the how, but we need to remember the why, and we need to sell the why." The why is our consumer.

Just as Joseph mentioned, a large number of our consumers, 90%+ of our consumers, made a decision to leave their loved ones in their home country, come to this country to work, oftentimes in not very glamorous jobs, to send almost every last dollar they earned back home to their loved ones, so their loved ones can have a better life. To me, Joseph used the term hero. That customer deserves a lot of respect and courtesy. We talk about the why, and you're gonna meet some retailers here in a few minutes who share that same belief about our consumer and the importance of our consumer. Oftentimes, they're not very well known. They're under the radar. They're living in the shadows. They're underappreciated.

Our economy would be in serious condition if that worker wasn't here taking care of the work that they are here doing. A little bit about the demographics of our consumer. They're male and female, but we skew male for sure. Many of them are right in that core hardworking age, 18-34. They're here, like I said, working hard, sending money home to their loved ones. Some of them have a desire to stay and live out the American dream, but many of them desire to return home to their country and live a good life with their family, and they're just here trying to set that stage so they can enjoy that life with their family. Many of them are not super highly educated. They're working here in occupations such as construction, service and hospitality, agriculture, et cetera.

This is important when I get to the fourth box over. Our consumers regularly tell us that 60% of them will tell us they get paid in cash. 30% of them tell us they get paid with a paper check, and 10% tell us that they get paid with some type of a direct deposit or payroll card. About another 10% on top of that 10% who get paid on a card or to a bank account say they have some type of a banking relationship here in the U.S. Okay, I'm gonna come back to that in a few minutes. As Bob said, this is a consumer that's very tech-savvy. They live on their phone. That's their lifeline home to their loved ones. Just a little bit about our consumer.

Now, if I address the market that we're in today, best estimates are that last year in 2021, $100 billion were sent from the United States to Latin America. Our best estimate is about $20 billion. Actually, we think it's about $18 billion, but for this slide, we're using $20 billion of those dollars were sent digitally. When I say digitally, I mean from a phone or a computer originating, right? Other companies use a little bit different definition, but we mean it originated online with a handheld phone or a computer. That means $83 billion were sent at retail locations. We're in this space because it's the biggest space to be in from the United States. It's the most profitable space to be in. It makes sense that we're here.

The next step in our evolution most likely means to focus on the United States outbound. Bob already mentioned that we have relationships in Africa and in Asia, and we can start to expand on that and go from the U.S. worldwide. That's a $170 billion opportunity. Then the next evolution is to go country to country all around the world, which is about a $700 billion opportunity. We think as we take those steps in our evolution, that the natural step is to be with digital. It's relatively easy to, when someone wants to send money online, to open up other countries in which we have payer relationships too. A little bit more difficult to open up the right retail relationships for those consumers. A great opportunity as we look to continue to grow.

Now, we look at this Latin America piece. The very fundamental building block in which we build our business is on a consumer that we refer to oftentimes as foreign born, people that were born somewhere in Latin America or the Caribbean that now reside in the United States. There are 24 million of those foreign borns in the U.S., and that group sent, as I mentioned, about $103 billion last year back home to their loved ones. Remember I said that in 1990 , there was about $4 billion, $5 billion sent from the U.S. to Latin America. Last year, again, $103 billion were sent to Latin America. We've got nine years' worth of information here, but in 2014, $47 billion were sent.

In those 9 nine years, the market has grown over twice, twofold during that time period, more than doubled. In talking to our retail partners or to Sorry, our pay partners, who give us information on our competitors, who sends how much money, et cetera, et cetera. Again, our best estimate is about $18 billion was sent via digitally, paid out to those pay partners in Latin America. Again, we've got $20 billion as an example here. Best estimate. In 2014, there was probably about $2 billion being sent digitally and about $45 billion being sent at retail. If we just extrapolate that, again, that retail size of that market, which we often hear is shrinking, is not shrinking at all.

It's gone from $45 billion to $83 billion in the last nine years. It grew about $14 billion just last year. I think importantly, we think both of these are great avenues. The customer chose to send about $8 billion of the incremental $22 billion last year via digital, and about $14 billion of the incremental $22 billion last year at their retailers. Curiously, the customer is choosing a ratio of about two-one at retail versus online when they have the opportunity to send more money. Again, we like both channels, and that's why we're here to talk to you about our omni-channel strategy. Let's go back to there are nine countries that we really focus on. Tier one, that's Mexico and Guatemala. That market in and of itself grew at 29% last year. We grew that market 40% last year.

We grew 38% faster than a very fast-growing market. If we look at tier two and tier three markets, that's Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Nicaragua. Those seven markets grew at 27% last year. We grew at 42%, 56x faster than the market, already a very fast-growing market. We love the space that we're in. Now, if we look at the top ten countries to Latin America, which is again, where we choose to focus our attention right now, those ten countries contribute about $99 billion of the $103 billion dollars being sent to Latin America, or about 96% of the market. If we look on the left-hand side, those top five markets comprise $86 billion dollars or 84% of the business to Latin America. That's why we're right there focused on these all-important countries.

Remember I said that Mexico and Guatemala, on the previous slide, we were growing at almost 40% faster than a very fast-growing market and 45% faster than the rest of the market. Now, if we look at how we're doing on our market share, we might say, "Well, that's fine. You're a small company. You don't have a big base of business, that's why you're growing so fast." But that's not the case. If we look at four countries that make up 75% of the volume from the U.S. to Latin America, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, those 75% of the business, we have a 21% market share too. We think that makes us a, if not the market leader to Latin America, and clearly, it's our objective to be the leader, undisputed leader to Latin America. The space that we're in is great.

The market is growing fast, and Intermex is outpacing the market. Now let's talk about the way we attack the market. We've heard the term omni-channel several times. Let me just share with you my perspective of omni-channel. I mentioned that about 20% of our consumers tell us that they're banked. Okay, we've just spent an awful lot of money to build out what we consider is going to be the industry-leading app to help these consumers who want to send money online have that opportunity to send money online. Our marketing team is chomping at the bit to be able to get out the promotion and start promoting that. Importantly, 90% of our consumers tell us they're paid with cash or check. That's why the retailer is so important. The retailer is important because this consumer goes there.

It's not a Walgreens or a Duane Reade that they're going to. They're going to a location that's where they live in their neighborhood. They know the employees. They trust the employees. They have confidence in the employees. They have comfort going there. It reminds them of home. And importantly, they're taking their hard-earned cash, and they're passing that cash over to someone who they know and trust. That's why the retailer is so important. The customer has an inherent distrust in banks. Our bank partners in the receiving side of the business tell us the same thing. 80% of the money transfer that's sent to Latin America is paid out in cash. Oftentimes that consumer who receives the cash will wanna hold it, look at it, count it, and then they may put it in their account to be deposited.

The important thing is they want to know they've got it in cash. Now we see, as Joseph talked about all the options that we offer, both for the sending agent and the paying agent, we offer that. We saw about a 3% shift this last year from paying out in cash to paying out at other options. Cash is still very, very important, although, as we've said many times, we want to give the sending customer as many options as possible, the receiving customer as many options as possible, and let them choose what's best for them. Now, we'll talk a little bit about retail. When we sell at retail, we sell the differentiators, and we've talked about it. Joseph just did a great job articulating we've got the best system in the industry. We've got the best hardware.

We've got the best software. When agents are entering that information on our computer, it's a fast transaction. That's so important to the agent. We talked about our call centers picking up the phone in seconds. We talked about the banks that we work with. Why is that important? Because the retailer needs to be able to get to the bank to deposit the money at a convenient location, not to drive miles and minutes away, but where it's most convenient for them. We've got a great compliance program. When transactions get caught in a filter, we're releasing them through the filter in minutes so that the customer doesn't have to call us saying, "Where's my money transfer?" All of that is extremely important to the retailer.

When their lobby is full of customers on Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays, Mondays, and they need to help those customers quickly, they choose Intermex because of the speed that we provide to them. Now Bob built a culture here that is a great sales culture. It's a disciplined focus that he helped build here, and I subscribe to it, and since joining, I've ran with it, and I love it. Most of our competitors would say, "Open up locations.

The more locations, the better." We have two of our sales leaders here, Carlos Vizcarra and Juan Espinel, from here in New York, and they've heard me say many, many times, "Opening up new locations to us is nowhere near as important as the wire generation that's going to come from those new locations." We'd much rather open fewer locations but have volume than just open up locations to open up locations. That would be a cardinal sin to us, and we don't do it. We like to go take the business. Our sales team will go to a retailer, they'll do what's called an on-site business review. They'll talk about the business. They'll talk about how many wires do you typically send a month here? What countries do you send them to? Who are the payers? What's the exchange rate? What's the fee?

By the time they're finished, they've negotiated, here's where we'll operate with you in terms of our fee, our exchange rate, the commission we pay you, and negotiate a committed number of wires so that we don't have to cross our fingers and hope wires come in from new locations we've added. We can have a high level of confidence that we've negotiated that business already. That's very different than the industry. Our sales team really understand unit economics. We teach them unit economics on their first day with the company on how important it is managing commissions, exchange rates, fees, payer fees, managing that gross margin line. They make really good decisions. That's all part of the culture we've built here. If we were to ask our sales team what's important to them, they would say unserved zip codes, underserved zip codes, and underperforming agents.

What do we mean by that? Exactly what we've got here on the screen. We've identified over 1,700 zip codes in the United States that have more than 2,000 foreign-born, but we don't even have one agent serving those customers or potential customers. We've identified almost 1,000 agents in zip codes where we have less than 20% market share in that zip code. Our sales team will have sales plans designed to open up agents where we need agents in unserved zip codes, work with agents or open up agents where we're underserved, and then work with agents who are underperforming. Meaning we're not getting the majority of the business in those locations. What do we need to do to help get that?

If we execute in these 1,800 or so zip codes, the way that we do in the zip codes where we have good service and we're fully served, it means about 1 million extra wires a month to us in zip codes where we don't have presence today, and another 800,000 wires a month in zip codes where we're just underserved right now. Again, a lot of opportunity. Bob mentioned that we focus on agent productivity, that our agents are about 4x more productive than the average in the industry. Let me spend a quick minute on how we attack the opportunity at online. The challenge, and I think you're all aware of this, is the cost of consumer acquisition is just terribly expensive, primarily for two reasons.

One, as I mentioned, about 90% of the consumers looking to send money home to Latin America don't have a bank relationship. They have cash or checks. Even if they wanted to send money home, they don't have the banking relationship that would enable them to. Time and time again, the consumer continues to demonstrate that they want to go to the retailer to send money. That's where they have that confidence, that comfort level. It's hard to spend millions of dollars marketing to consumers who aren't ready to make that transition. We will market to consumers in other ways. We have a call center that of marketers that talk to our consumers who have stopped using us. Maybe it's been three months since they've used us. We call them. Every day, we're making those phone calls.

Sometimes they tell us, "Oh, I'm not going to a retailer anymore. I'm sending money online. I found it more convenient." Boom, we can move them over to Intermex Online, easy. They've used us in the past. They know us. They trust us. We're not harming our relationship with our agents or our retailers because the consumer already moved out of there. That doesn't cost us hardly anything to make that type of consumer acquisition. We're just moving them. Or moving them from a competitor where they're already using online. We also will use strategic alliances, affiliate marketing programs.

Companies who already have consumers that share our same demographic, going to their website to buy a product because they have the opportunity, the means to do so, we'll work with them to promote our service because they're already on their website making e-commerce transactions. Thirdly, we've talked about the payroll card. As some of these employers transition away from a check onto a card, we'll be there to help them transition. We'll offer them what we call a satellite location. We'll send an agent of ours in to offer money transfer services right there at the employer location on a Thursday or a Friday, whenever the customers are looking to send money. Or we'll help them load our app on their phone, and they can send money on their app if they choose to.

Again, omnichannel strategy, we're gonna let our customers decide what's best for them. Now, the way we're gonna market, we're excited to begin marketing our online app. There are some major differentiators with our app that separate us from our competition. There's competitors out there that say, "We offer the best rate." There's other competitors that say, "We offer the best exchange rate." There's other competitors that say, "We're the fastest." We're giving our customer the option to choose whichever one of those options they want. No one else does that.

If they want the best exchange rate, they can choose, "I want the best exchange rate." If they want the lower fee, they can choose, "I want the lower fee." If they want to send it so it doesn't need to get paid out same day, it can be paid out two days, three days later, they get an even lower fee. The customer is in charge. We love that. It's gonna be very easy for our customers to register online only with an email. That's unheard of in this space. Perhaps the biggest differentiator is what we've talked about several times, the customer service that we're offering this online customer. You've all had experiences with DoorDash or Uber, where your burger didn't make it.

That's okay if your burger didn't make it to your house, and you just have to be a little bit hungry. When your hard-earned dollars don't make it to your loved ones and you can't find anybody to talk to figure out where those dollars are, it's very different. We're gonna be helping this customer online as well. Then we've got, I think, about 5 million unique customers that trusted us last year to send their money home at our retail locations. We've got great brand recognition, and we'll leverage that brand recognition with the digital consumer. Our marketing is a little bit different. Almost every money transfer company says, "Send money. Send money to Mexico. Send money to Guatemala." We say, [ Non English Content] which is you're in control. You can choose.

Choose Intermex and be in control of your money transfer, your hard-earned money. Lastly, let me just wrap up by saying that it's a very strong market that we're in. We just saw that. 26%-27% growth year over year, just last year. $22 billion incrementally being sent last year versus 2020. The digital channel is growing great. We're gonna be there. The retail channel is growing great. We're already there. We're gonna be there. Intermex will continue to outpace the market growth. Again, as I've said, a very high growth market, we're growing faster. We'll continue to execute in that disciplined, surgical focus that Bob has set in this culture of this company, in the future years, just as we have in the past. Whether it be online or at retail, we'll continue to win.

We'll continue to win because of our superior customer service, our industry-leading technology, and our ever-growing portfolio of products. Again, thank you for your time. It's a Q&A, right? If I could ask Joseph and Bob to come join up on the stand, we'll take a few questions if there are any. Yeah, come up, I guess. Any questions for us? Yes.

David Scharf
Managing Director, JMP Securities

Hi.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Mr. Scharf.

David Scharf
Managing Director, JMP Securities

Um.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

You need a microphone.

David Scharf
Managing Director, JMP Securities

Got it. Thank you. Hey, you know, just curious, Randy, the makeup of your consumer with respect to how they're being paid.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Mm-hmm.

David Scharf
Managing Director, JMP Securities

Do you have a sense of the 10% that say they're getting something, either an ACH into a payroll or they're currently banked? Are they still generally paying out, you know, coming to an agent location with cash in hand? Or

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Yeah. Sorry, go ahead. Finish your question, sorry.

David Scharf
Managing Director, JMP Securities

No, because what I'm trying to get a sense of, you know, as you think about the first wave of users that may adopt-

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Yeah.

David Scharf
Managing Director, JMP Securities

Your digital solution, do you think it's actually gonna be that 10% that's walking into a store? Or are we talking about an entirely newly targeted customer?

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Yeah. It's hard to say. The consumers that we're talking to on a regular basis, they are our consumers who have used us at retail. That's the ones we're talking to and we're surveying. We know that even though they have money put on a card or into a bank account, they're still going to a retailer to send money. Now, will they be the first adopters? High likelihood, because, you know, 100% of the customers, they're part of the subset that has the means to send money online, where the others, they just simply don't have a banking relationship.

David Scharf
Managing Director, JMP Securities

Got it. Maybe just a follow-up to that, this may be more difficult to answer, but do you want them to adopt?

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

You know, I think we're ambivalent. We really are. As long as the unit economics are similar to ours from, and from a gross margin perspective, we're making about the same amount of money online as we are at retail, then we really do want the customer to be able to choose what's more convenient for them.

David Scharf
Managing Director, JMP Securities

Yeah.

Speaker 8

Great. Thank you. Question, somewhat of a follow-on to that. Of your 5 million customers, what percentage use Bill Pay? And then what percentage of those customers are part of your CheckDirect, where they're cashing the check-

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Yeah.

Speaker 8

with the agents. Are you able to correlate that?

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Yeah. Let me go and then.

Joseph Aguilar
COO, Intermex

Sure. Go ahead. You can augment.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

We both work on this. We don't offer a lot of bill payment. We don't really like bill payment, to be honest, because it's a very low-margin service and oftentimes by the time we bank the money, given the revenue stream we have, we're upside down on it. We don't push that a lot, hardly ever. I'd say a very small percentage of our money transfer customers use us to pay their bills. Your question about CheckDirect, it's really difficult to do a one-to-one ratio. Joseph said about 46% of our business is reconciled with us via check, but that doesn't necessarily mean the person coming in with the check actually sent money or sent money with us. We think there's a pretty high correlation, but really difficult to prove that out.

Speaker 8

What about money orders?

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Money orders, same way, where we don't really track money order to money transfer. Joseph, maybe you can answer that. I don't know anything to do-

Joseph Aguilar
COO, Intermex

We don't. What we do identify with money orders is that agents who sell money orders definitely have an increased volume.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Sure.

Joseph Aguilar
COO, Intermex

in wires. When they're offering broader products and services, they do come to our agent locations and use the services of our agents, but we don't do a one-to-one correlation of, you know, how many money orders versus how many wires they generated.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

You know, I'll piggyback on that. Joseph makes a really good point. These ancillary services that we talk about, primarily money order and CheckDirect, have a really high stickiness with both agents and consumers. Where our average agent will sell about 400, 430 wires a month, the agents that have these products that we're talking about will average 800, 900 wires a month, twice as much. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Other questions? Okay. If there's no other questions, Mike, I think we'll have a break for-

10-minute break.

Ten-minute break. We'll be back, and then we'll have the opportunity to meet some of our agents. Thank you.

Joseph Aguilar
COO, Intermex

Thank you.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Okay. Let's do a quick mic check. Gazi, you wanna try?

Hello. 1. 1, 2, 1, 2. Yeah.

Okay.

It works.

One, two. Good. Okay, as we're coming back and getting resituated, I'm gonna take the opportunity. Thank you, Bob, for allowing me to kind of step in here and have a little conversation with a couple of our agents. As we mentioned at the onset, when Mike mentioned that we have an agent here in New York, another agent from California. Gazi and Sandy are here. I'm gonna ask them to give some more detail, but they have a family-owned business. They manage some stores. Some of Sandy's siblings and father have a bigger business here in the greater New York market. The Martinez's out in Northern California have been in the industry for a long, long time and manage about five stores, and their children are here.

We wanna recognize their children because now their children are working at their stores and looking to make a contribution as well. Why don't we just take a moment. Gazi, can you and Sandy just introduce yourselves and share a little bit about how long you've been in the industry, and then we'll go from there.

Speaker 12

Sure. Good afternoon, everybody. My name is Gazi. We've been in the industry actually for 22 years. We started as a family business with one store and right now we are growing to 25 retail stores. Everything is going fine. We go with the flow of the adoption of the technology and you know all the business that we have to go with everything that goes to you know everything that is changing. We try to adapt and we go for maybe the treatment of customers.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Okay. Sandy, any opening comments to a little bit of your background?

Speaker 12

Good afternoon to everyone. I came to this country in 1999. I started with my father with our first store. At the beginning, I didn't like it that much. I think it was like a business that was going like, I don't know, how it was not going to last. Then after, at the time, I started to like my job. I started to like what I did because I started like a cashier with the customers. With time, we now have a lot more employees and a lot of friends. It's like a big family. We work together to try to grow the business more and more.

Everything has been changing, but the business never stop growing, and we are happy with what we do.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Great. I forgot to mention, you're from Ecuador. Gazi, you're from-

Speaker 12

I'm from Albania.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Albania.

Speaker 12

Yes.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Okay. All right. Jose. Jose and Lupita, you're out in the Northern California market. Please introduce yourselves.

Speaker 13

Great. Yes. My name is Jose, and my wife Maria. Yes, we're from California. Our business is based in San Francisco, five locations. We came into the business, yeah, about 23, 24 years ago. We started out as a travel agent, you know, but that went away, basically. It went all online. We got into a money transfer and then check cashing later. We've worked, we have worked with a lot of different companies, including the well-known ones like Western Union, MoneyGram, and all these companies. So we know all of them, you know, from being an agent of all of them. We've seen a lot of changes.

We've grown our business, you know, from, I guess, 1,000 transactions to over 20,000 transactions per month. Very excited about the industry. Now I got my kids trying to get involved in this business and try to grow the business as well. Yeah, we are, like I said, the founders of MEX Express Incorporated in San Francisco, California. We're from El Salvador. We're both from El Salvador.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Okay.

Speaker 13

Yes.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Any thoughts there down in the end?

Speaker 14

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Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Sure.

Speaker 14

Okay. [NON ENGLISH CONTENT]

Speaker 13

She was just giving a brief description of basically when we came to the United States and how we got into the business. She says we're visionaries, and we like the industry, and that this is what we've done since basically since we got married. It's been a great industry, has given us a lot. We're excited now to have our kids get involved. My daughter just graduated from college, and she's coming to work for us, so we're pretty excited about that. Having Intermex on our side, it makes a huge difference. Like I was saying, we work with a lot of other companies, and we've seen the difference. We know the difference, and Intermex makes a difference. That's why we're here.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Okay. Thank you. Thank you, we welcome each of you. Why don't we ask the question on everyone's mind? Why Intermex? Why do you work with Intermex? Isn't it all about whichever company pays you the most commission rates or that gives the customer the best exchange rates? Why? Clearly, Intermex isn't that company. Why do you choose to work with Intermex?

Speaker 12

Well, of course, prices are important. The exchange rate is important. For us, the most important thing is that a company that we can trust, a company that is not gonna disappear, like, in a week, and we lost the money or the customer lost the money. A company that has a good customer service because our customers, they want the money right away. They have people in their own countries that needs the money, sometimes for medical bills, sometimes for food, for some things that cannot wait. Intermex can give us, like, we tried so many companies in the past, and we still have other companies too, but we always choose Intermex because they are very fast, the customer service is very good.

The compliance service also, they can call us when we need them to give them more information about any transaction. We don't have problems that we have with other companies, especially with the software they use. The program they use is very fast, is very friendly. We not even have to call to customer services sometimes because we can look on the system what is going on with the transaction. There's many advantages that they offer to us, and that's why we are with them, and we want to continue with them in the future too.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Okay.

Speaker 13

Yes, I remember, I believe 2008, when we were working with a company called Money Flow, and that's when we actually knew about Intermex. We were, I guess, part of their transaction, you know. We were kind of afraid 'cause we've had many bad experiences with other companies. As we started to know them and working with them, we liked it more and more. That's why we stick with them, and we got rid of a lot of them. We used to have, I think, as agents, we could have many companies, you know, including Western Union, MoneyGram. Like I said, I've had them all. We decided to get rid of them because it didn't make any sense.

Now with compliance, as agents, it's super important to be with a company who, you know, who can be there with you and support you. One of the things that I wanted to mention real quick is that Intermex does understand, they do understand us as agents. You know, they're gonna be there. You know, they understand our position, you know, because, you know, we are actually, like we always say, we work for our customers, and we can't help the customer if we don't have the support up on, you know, up with Intermex. One of the things I wanted to mention real quick too is that, loyalty is important.

Intermex, Randy was speaking when he was speaking about why not open many locations, you know, open locations everywhere, and that's what Western Union, MoneyGram did. I hated that. Because they give you like, you know, you have your own competition. You can't. They don't give you space to work. Intermex does understand that, and they try to help me as an agent to grow my business and not put another competition next to me. That's to me that's really, really important. I appreciate that, and they've been like that. You know, for this 15 years that I worked with Intermex, they've been very loyal, very. One of the things that I also wanted to mention was that pricing is important, you know.

Their compliance is super great. I really appreciate marketing, awesome. Marketing is really good with Intermex. Their platform, super excellent. A lot of things that they offer that other companies do not offer. Yeah. That's what makes a difference, and that's why we have decided to be with Intermex and hopefully, you know, be with them for as long as necessary.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Not as long as necessary.

Speaker 13

Yeah, it's a great company. Oh. I don't know.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Okay.

Speaker 13

As long as-

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Jose, we're gonna come back to you.

Speaker 13

Like I said, real quick, Randy.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Yeah.

Speaker 13

I wanted to say this. A lot of the companies with agents, they come to us, and they want us to sign, like, an exclusive contract. Intermex doesn't do that, you know. So basically, you're not tied up to them. You are with them because they help you. You know, you're not tied to a contract. That's really, really important too, you know. Yeah.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

That's a great point.

Speaker 13

Yeah.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Thank you. Yeah. Gazi, any thoughts as to why you think anything you'd add here to the conversation?

Everything that Jose says, it's completely true. As he said, we also had the same experience. Many years in the business, we had all the companies, all the remittance that exist. You can see the difference. We can tell the difference right away and makes us, you know, as he said.

Mm-hmm.

We help the customer. The customer comes back. Everything makes faster, secure, cheaper, and so that's how we grow.

Okay. All right, good. Thank you. You know, one of the questions that was asked was kind of the correlation between customers coming in with a check and customers not coming in with a check. In New York, there's check cashing regulations that make it difficult to get a license. You all don't cash checks, but you have all of your customers come in with cash in hand. Talk a little bit about that dynamic, and then, José, we'll come over to you and Lupita because on the other hand, they cash checks in California, so.

Speaker 14

This hasn't been a problem for us here because the people is used to go to the office with cash. For us, what help us bring more customers is also because we have other services. We offer them shipping, we offer them travel tickets. We offer them like, paying bills or, like, cards or different kind of other things. All of them come with cash, and most of them, they when they work, they receive cash.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Okay.

Speaker 14

Most of them customers.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

That's a great point. They're coming to your store, and they're not just sending money, but they're taking care of other needs at the same time.

Speaker 14

Yeah, they do other business. Yeah

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

...that they can't necessarily do online. Okay, good. What about on the West Coast? Do you cash checks? Is it a-

Speaker 13

We do.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Yeah.

Speaker 13

We do. About 60% of our revenue comes from the check cashing and the rest from the wire transfer. We're an MSB, money services business. Strictly, we don't offer any other service other than the check cashing, money transfer, bill pay, money orders.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

What's the correlation you see? Does someone coming in with the check to cash the check send money? Is it 1 to 1?

Speaker 13

Yes. Our check cashing, it works really great because our customers come in with the check. I say about 95% of our customers will wire a portion of their check. That's another big difference with Intermex because the check the customer brings in, we'll give it to Intermex, you know, so we don't need to take it to a bank.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 13

'Cause we used to do that, and they charge a fee. Now we give it to Intermex as a payment for the wire transfer, and they give us the difference. We don't pay anything, and that's another huge one for us, too. You know, our check, we cash, I say about $30 million per month, so it's quite a bit. It's been really, really good. It works really great. It integrates with their system really easy and easy for us as well. Yes.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Yeah. Yeah. Great point. Thank you. Let's switch gears now. You two, if you'll tell us a little bit about your consumer. Who is your consumer, and why are they sending money home? Maybe you can add a little bit to what I was trying to say a little bit earlier.

The majority of our consumers, it's residents that they live in the area. Fortunately, we are located a little bit of everywhere on the Tri-State and New Jersey as well. There are customers that they live here. Might be, you know, of immigrant background, but most of them have a bank account. It's like you said before, it's the main reason is that they're sending their hard work money home. It's something that, I mean, with the years you take it very seriously and, you know how it feels.

Mm-hmm.

We try to do our best and that's how they feel it too. That's why they come. Our customers are people that live on the area.

Yeah

...and mostly, of course, depends on the area from Mexico or from maybe other countries, but depends on the location of the store that we have.

Okay. What do they do for work? I'm curious.

All the construction, you know, electrician, any kind of work they do, but it's a little bit of everything.

Okay.

Yes.

Okay. Sandy, would you add anything?

Speaker 12

I guess most of the customers are like, people that come here to work, like on restaurants, work on construction, babysitters, like, all kind of this work. Like, sometimes, people that leave, U.S. citizens or people that work here, they don't wanna do those kind of jobs that sometimes other people doesn't wanna do, they do it. They work here. They come here. They live like in a small apartment, a lot of people together to save money. All the money they made on the week, they go on the weekend to send to their countries.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 12

They only keep a little bit of that money to survive, to eat, to pay the rent, but all the rest of the money they send to their countries.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Sure. Okay, great. Good. Thanks. Jose, what about your customer?

Speaker 13

Yeah.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

What do they do?

Speaker 13

Yes. Our customer base, well, in San Francisco, you know, there's a lot of tourism, so a lot of our customers are, you know, the cooks of the restaurants. They work in the restaurant business and also a lot of them construction. They live in San Francisco, and they live in the area. That's why our locations are strategically, you know, in areas where it's close to them. These people, a lot of them hold two jobs. Some we know people who have four jobs. A lot of hardworking people. A lot of them, they live together in San Francisco being so expensive, they live together. So they grab their check.

When they go get their check, they come to us and they try to, like she was saying, just retain a bit for them to live here, and the rest, they send it. You know, but these people who live in the area, you know. Yeah. A lot of them, obviously, they don't trust the bank. You know, one thing we know is because. Also going to a bank to them is waste of time. You know, you have to. Huge lines and, you know, a lot of questions. They get intimidated, so that's where we are, you know. They come to us. They know us. If there is an issue, a problem, we're there to help them.

We go over and above to help our customers, 'cause we work for them.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Okay.

Speaker 13

Yeah.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Great. Back here to Sandy and Gazi. The question that we've been talking about today is, look, there's a lot of people sending money via their phones, a lot of people sending money at retail. How do you feel about that?

Of course, I guess, you know, technology is changing, so it might a little bit impact some changes on the profits for us. The retail, it's still gonna be strong. I mean, the technology has been since so many years now changing.

Yeah.

We're growing with our stores as well. We saw the numbers that they presented, so I agree. We agree 100%. It's not gonna affect our business, even it doesn't matter how our customer base is people that it's not very tech-savvy, let's say like this. They prefer, you know, come straight to talking to somebody-

Sure.

right in the face.

Yeah.

You know, if they have a problem, like as I said, we help them right away instead of being in front of a screen and trying to fight with a screen.

Okay.

for many reasons.

Yeah.

Starting with an exchange rate or a compliance problem. They're gonna have a much better service with somebody one-on-one then.

Okay. Sandy, would you add anything to that?

Speaker 12

Oh, no, the same thing. Just that, when they come to a person, like we speak the same language. We can talk to them.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Yeah.

Speaker 12

We make a joke with them.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Yeah.

Speaker 12

They care about what they, their experience. Sometimes many of those people, they don't live with anybody else. They are alone in this country.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Yeah.

Speaker 12

when they go to the stores, they find somebody who can talk to them, who can ask them what they eat, what they did during the day. They have like a friendship, a conversation.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 12

Like somebody that helps them even to give them some encouragement, somebody that is not a computer or phone.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Sure. Yeah. Great point. Thank you. Jose, Maria, your thoughts on the digital versus retail?

Speaker 13

Yeah, I know there's a market out there for, you know, technology. It's advancing. I don't see it as a threat, like I said, because our experience has been that people, they're looking for interaction, you know. They're looking for someone who is going to be out there to help them, and that's where we come in. I think this industry, we've been growing. I see the numbers going every year up and so, you know, it. This business is trust is a lot to do. You know, someone to be out there to help them, that's very big to our customers.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Maria, thoughts?

Speaker 14

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Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 14

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Speaker 13

Yeah. Essentially, she was saying it's face-to-face interaction with the customer. That's why they come to us and that's where we make the difference. A lot of people are afraid of technology still, you know? Plus, it's their hard-earned money. They wanna make sure that it's gonna get to the place, to their families, safe and fast. If there is an issue, they know where to go.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Okay. All right. I know our time's up, so thirty seconds. I think it's important. I'm gonna ask Jose to be really brief, but he and Maria are both from El Salvador, and as we all know, cryptocurrency is different in El Salvador. What are your thoughts with respect to how that might impact this industry?

Speaker 13

I got a little worried, but I don't see any impact anytime soon. You know, I know with crypto, people have to be, they have to know a little bit more about technology. Plus, one thing that I've seen that's huge is that, pricing too. Even though you can send money, crypto, it's very cheap and fast, but it's very, expensive to get. If you go to a Coinbase, for example, and you have to go buy, and they will charge you a transaction fee, a percentage, and, by the time you have it in your wallet and you wanna wire it, you already paid more than what they're paying, coming to us directly.

It's more expensive, at least for the time being, to acquire it. Yeah, I don't see it in the near future, so I don't worry much about it and, you know, yeah.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

All right. Good.

Speaker 13

Yeah.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

I know we're over time. We've invited all four of these folks to stay with us for the cocktail reception, so if you have questions, feel free. You'll make yourselves available to answer any questions we might have. Thank you again for your time this afternoon. Now, I guess it's my pleasure to introduce our Chief Information Officer, Chris Hunt. Chris has been such a great addition to our team. He comes in with a sense of urgency, and he's been so great at listening to the needs of the sales team, applying those needs, and delivering great quality products. Chris, we're happy to have you with us. Thanks.

Chris Hunt
CIO, Intermex

Thank you, Randy.

Moment as they take the chairs off the stage here. Thank you. All right. Well, welcome, everyone. Thank you for being here today. I am very thankful to be here today with everybody. My name's Chris Hunt. I'm the CIO, and I wanted to take a minute, very briefly, just talk a little bit about my background. I feel like I've been around technology my whole life. I remember being eight years old and wrote my first computer program on a Timex Sinclair 1000. If anybody in the room knows what a Timex Sinclair 1000 is, I'd like to talk to you afterwards 'cause it's an old computer. The point of it was, you know, I wrote that program, and I was immediately fascinated with the fact that we could build things on computers and tell machines to do things.

I was very passionate about that. It resonates very much with me here at Intermex. At Intermex, we use technologies to build products that impact people's lives. It was very impactful, even from my childhood coming into Intermex and having that. I've been at Intermex for about a year now, and I remember a year ago, I was probably sitting in a seat, had questions similar to some of you in the audience today. My questions were around, you know, what is Intermex about? What are the growth opportunities? You know, what does the market look like around the world? For me, in particular, it was about how are we using technology products. Now, I fast-forward a year, and I've come to find out that we use technology everywhere. We're digital in retail and have been for a very long time.

Digital and mobile, digital online. Our entire backend platform really runs on digital. In saying that, it occurred to me, digital has really been a part of our DNA for a very long time. Now, I wanna point out four main components around the digital aspect here. Number one is our very robust technology platform. When I mention that, I talk about all the agency software, all of our online, all of our mobile, our entire backend, our complete data ecosystem. Really everything that makes up and composes our platform. Everything an agency uses, an employee uses, a customer, a digital online user, all runs on our technology platform. The second thing is having a very modern scalable architecture now. We spent and had a very good time this year, investing and fast-forwarding our modernization efforts around our architecture. Why is that important? Two things.

Number one, modernization's done a couple things for us. It's allowed us to remove a significant amount of tech debt that we had brought forward for many years, and that's gonna translate to products getting to market much more quickly. Then from an architecture and scalability perspective, we wanna be able to be there and be ready using elastic cloud resources when we're ready to go. As our transactions continue to grow at retail and grow at digital, we've put ourselves in a good position through this modernization to get us there and be ready for that. Third thing is open integration. Now, for me, this is super important. Integration isn't simply how do all the systems talk, and it's not just internal systems, it's how do we talk with external systems? How do data flows communicate?

I have a slide a little later on in the presentation where I go into our new platform a little more in depth, but really it's how are we providing the interconnectivity of all these systems. The last is cyber. I don't think I really need to spend a lot of time talking about how important and big a deal cyber is. I think we all know that. I don't think there's a day that goes by that you don't read in the news about a ransomware attack, data breach, some kind of social engineering scam, fraud, you name it. It's across the board. The problem itself, not getting any smaller, it's actually getting bigger at a very, very fast pace. It's a little bit scary. We're doing a lot to mitigate that. I wanna talk with...

Through a few things with you what we're doing. Number one is I'm very big on talent. We've spent time building our information security team and working to get the best talent. As a matter of fact, next week, on Monday, we'll be introducing a new Chief Information Security Officer. It's a gentleman with relevant industry experience and a recognized leader in the cyberspace, so it's gonna definitely strengthen our posture on our internal team. The second component is external talent. We work extensively with third parties, and we pick the best vendors to work with. They're helping us with things like vulnerability assessment, application pen test, red team, blue team. All the proactive services that you look for in a partner, they're helping us with. Second thing we do is we invest heavily in both software and hardware.

From a software security space, we have software running throughout our entire environment. Every piece of equipment inside our environment is being monitored. We're monitoring traffic data. All flows of information going through our environment are being monitored today. They're being monitored 24/7, and they're running sophisticated, complex machine learning algorithms to quickly detect and identify any problems in the environment as quick as we can, because we need to be able to respond that quickly in order to avoid these threats. Third thing, it's not as glamorous, but it's recovery. Unfortunately, it's a place we're in today with how prevalent cybersecurity has become. You have to have the ability to recover.

I don't wanna say it's a matter of if, but when, but so many companies are being hit, and if you neglect this space, you are susceptible to your business having a major problem if you do fall to a cyberattack. We've made significant investments, time over the course of the last year, and really put ourselves in a good position to help recover if we are hit with an incident. The last piece, and I've always said this is something very important to me, is training. We've embedded security within our culture. It has to be a part of your company culture. We spend a lot of time requiring security training throughout the year. We talk to our employees about it. It's communicated throughout the company. We do real-time testing on our employees.

We have systems in place that as they're interacting throughout the day, they may do something that isn't what we want them to be doing, and the system will flag them and say, "Do you think this activity was okay?" They can answer yes or no. If it was a bad activity, it identifies and flags them as an opportunity, and we take the proactive measure of going out and training those employees. We really put a lot of focus because I always say compromising an employee's credentials is far easier than breaking through a segmented network with sophisticated hardware on the outside protecting you. Certainly embedding training into our environment is very important. Shifting gears onto something that's not security related, but product. Really, at Intermex, focus on delivering world-class products.

There's four main things that we do to do that. Number one, you heard a few of them up here, but we really try to understand our customer, and we really spend a lot of effort. We go to agencies. We conduct field visits. We take feedback. We have focus groups. We have innovation committees. We're listening to everything with the pain points of why going into an agency and watching them during a very crowded hour, having to deal with a system that's super fast rather than slow when you're working with a line going out the door. We really try to put ourselves in their shoes and show the empathy of how can we deliver a better product for them. With the online, it's a little more sophisticated.

We're gathering a lot of data and determining through behavioral analytics what the best path for a better user experience is, but the same things. We focus heavily on the customer experience. The second thing is data. I mentioned that before, but I love data. I'm a big fan of it. I talk a little more later about how we're using it, but as a company, we're just completely data-driven and action-oriented on that. Amassing as much information we can about a customer, using it for behavioral analytics, and really driving our strategy around what we build as a product based on that data. The third is business strategy. Now, you can build the best product in the world. It could be the coolest thing ever, but if it doesn't make money and it doesn't align with your strategy, it's not that great a product.

We use these first two things to be very surgical and very calculated as to what we wanna invest in and build into our products from a feature perspective. The last thing is we really look into our market and industry. What's happening out there? What's relevant? How are things changing? How are things shifting? What's the competitor doing? Is that working? Is it not? A lot of market and industry research goes into creating and crafting a world-class product. Once we craft the product, one of the investments we're making is really shifting towards an agile delivery method. I think some of us may have heard about that, and usually when you ask people, you say, "Do you use agile or waterfall?" They don't have a great answer for it.

They say, "We're wagile or waterfall agile." The truth is we're making an effort to get to agile, and that's really to the point where we wanna increase our speed of delivery. Now, you've heard horror stories in the past about companies you've worked for, certainly, where they're doing software releases and software builds, and those take three months, six months, a year. Doing this, we've got to the point where we can release multiple times a day. Through those investments, making significant progress in how quickly we can get features into the market. You heard about this a little earlier from Randy and Joseph. I'm not gonna talk a lot about the features right now. I do have a demo video right after this slide, but I wanted to focus on three key tech components for this which are important.

Number one, we wanted to build it mobile first, and this is important because I identified that about 90% of our transactions are done from a mobile device. It's not from a browser, it's not from a website. Really crafting the entire user experience around mobile first and allowing them to make this transaction as simple as possible as it can be in their hands, and we think we've achieved that with the best-in-class app. Second thing, which is very important, is built to scale. Touched on it earlier, but we've built this on cloud-native platform. We have the elasticity for the performance of the cloud in place today. Again, as our digital transactions continue to increase as they have year-over-year, we're in a great position at this point to be able to scale with them. The third is platform-driven.

Mentioned the integration platform in the previous slide. This one was a super important one for us. We wanted to make sure that everything we built going forward, including the launch of this mobile app, was built on our new IMX Connect integration platform, and that's gonna allow us to really deliver value very quickly through this by unifying the back end. I do have a brief video of the app right now. It's about a minute and a half. It doesn't have any voiceover. We were trying to figure out a way to walk through. It's essentially an assessment of walking through a standard wire transaction, couple options, and then you'll see some of the other screens, but it'll give you a good idea of the simplicity of use of the app. That's supposed to be the Q. Excellent.

A couple other features you saw in there, but a lot of real functionality about very quickly being able to contact our customer service center. It's a big differentiator, but multi-language, you hit a button, you can be online with anybody if you have a problem with your transaction. Again, very quick to be able to perform a transaction on the new mobile app. Other product we've spoken a little bit about today is our Intermex Direct. Now this is our flagship product. We have run for a long time on the software that has been built, and we went on a mission to make a better version of that. We've succeeded. We took a lot of information from our customers. We went out to the field, we conducted surveys. We really crafted what we feel is the best software in the industry.

You've heard people talk about the speed of our software and how quick it is and how it's smooth. We made it even better. We actually made it even faster to conduct on that. We've also embedded security in it. We've added some anti-fraud features in it, and we've also conducted, with a third party, an extensive user experience surveys and really having them interact not only with the software itself, but as we expand our digital journeys, how does that impact the software delivery and the user interface they use. Really continuing to just focus on delivering the best customer experience possible. In addition, I believe Bob or Randy mentioned it as well, with the software, we're also deploying with new agency hardware. We feel that the agencies will love this. It's gonna be a very quick, high performance machine.

The software will run very quickly on it, as well as anything they happen to do on that machine. It'll keep them on that machine as well. We've got an extensive plan. Currently, right now on Intermex Direct, we have about 18% of our transactions happening on that. We're looking to roll that out through the rest of the year and compress that timeline as much as possible. Last component of this really, which Joseph mentioned too, which was important, was unifying the POS. I think that's. You look at our agents today, they go around with multiple applications. They've got to toggle back and forth, and we wanted to remove that for them.

Now they come into the application, everything's right in front of them, readily available, and they can handle their clients much more efficiently than they do today. This is the integration platform I was speaking about. I'm very excited about it. I'm a developer at heart, so it's something that's very cool to me. Commercially available. I'm not sure how familiar everybody is, but normally you launch one of these things and there's open API documentation for engineers. There's an SDK, which is a software development kit that engineers can download, play with the tool in the sandbox. Really the objective of this is, as I mentioned, unifying what we build our products on to be able to deliver more quickly as the main component, but then also opening up B2B opportunities we haven't had in the past.

At this point, if we wanna partner with a third party that has engineering and want to embed Intermex products as services into their applications, they're able to do that through our IMX Connect platform. We're very excited about it. It's been a while. It's been a long time coming. We feel that with this, along with our co-branded offer that we have today, we've really been able to kind of offer everything to these third parties that would embed Intermex within their services. We're very excited about this. Last thing, topic I'll speak about, data-driven. I don't think I've worked at a company that is as data-driven and strategic and analytical as Intermex. We use data a lot today.

Every decision we make, it feels, based on data, and a lot of companies are doing this, but we're really gonna look to, in three areas, expand our data capabilities. We're doing so today, three of them in particular are the ones you see here. One being predictive analytics, so using data to get better at target marketing, offering promotions, identifying customer behaviors. As you start seeing patterns with customer migrations, meet them at that point. Don't wait to fall behind. Identify the stuff up front, build the products to meet them there when they get there. Predicting is gonna be very important to our strategy going forward. On the machine learning front, we have embedded a bit of this right now within our information security posture.

Mentioned it before, we have a lot of machine learning algorithms running on top of our network today that's helping us identify patterns. It's the coolest thing ever. It sits there and continuously learns about what's happening in the background and automatically updates to detect more quickly as it goes on and learns. Very excited with that. Look into some opportunities we have in the pricing area as well to detect patterns and shift our pricing due to that. The last piece is AI. It's a bit of a buzzword. I'll split it in two parts. I'll call it augmented intelligence and artificial intelligence. I'm big on augmented intelligence, and we're building a lot of that into our efficiencies today. If you think about our call centers or our internal sales teams, how do we make them more efficient?

Well, we're developing tools that's using technology to predict and serve screens up, so they have more relevant information in front of them when they need to do their job. We're essentially augmenting and allowing them to do things more quickly. When I think about AI, we do have a real space where it could become valid because right now we have a very robust, great customer service network. But as the population ages and people wanna be more frictionless in their conversations, it may open up the fact that they wanna have a no-touch experience, no-call experience, and we'll be there ready for them with artificial intelligence to provide that support. I think in summary today was to say Intermex has and will continue to invest in world-class products to deliver to our customers.

I thank you all for your time today, and I'm gonna turn it over to Andras Bende.

Andras Bende
CFO, Intermex

Afternoon. Thanks everyone for being here. Just a little bit about my background and my path to Intermex. I spent 18 years with GE Capital, did a couple CFO roles for them out in Europe. Subsequent to that, spent two years within financial technology, core banking software, and then eventually found my way to Intermex. When I got approached by a recruiter about Intermex, I'd never heard about it. First thing I'm gonna do as a CFO is go take a look at the numbers, and the numbers were pretty compelling. I said, "Okay, I think I'll have the conversation." I had a conversation with Bob. For those of you who've met him, he's very no-nonsense, straightforward, transparent individual. Really sold me on the growth story.

The next step is when I started to meet the team, you know, really an exceptional group of low ego, high results, metric-driven individuals. It was very much felt like part of my DNA, and that's how I started to join end of 2020. I'll show you some of those numbers that caught my eye that are, you know, a year plus later. You know, hopefully a lot of you had the chance to join our earnings call this morning. Really a set of phenomenal results. You know, when you've got our ecosystem of agents growing at 12% year-over-year, and they've got transactions growing at over 25% year-over-year, our digital transactions growing around 90% year-over-year, those are the results you get.

Really across all of our key measures in the 20s and 30s in terms of year-over-year growth, a great story. Really important to underscore, this is not 'cause we had a soft COVID comp, right? You can look at the two-year-over on the right. We had a really strong 2020. Grew EBITDA around 19% in 2020. You know, even in the second quarter when a lot of the industry went reverse, we were growing both EBITDA and net income. You know, we had a really strong 2020 and an even stronger 2021.

Going to the next slide here, you know, one of the threads that that'll go between all the financial slides is really around efficiency, and you've heard a lot about it, but that's gonna play through in all the financials that I talk about. From a money transfer standpoint, you know, what you're seeing over there is a product of a relentless 10-year focus on efficiency and, you know, first and foremost, efficiency of the product. Simple, easy-to-use product, efficiency of customer service, easy to get ahold of service, and easy product to use. Great product to put out there. The thought behind it to go and find the agents who are gonna value that, who are gonna lean into that, lean into the customer service element, simple technology, and find the agents where we're gonna generate a lot of wires.

That's the product of 10 years of that focus, and we're reaping the benefits. You can see money transfer's growing at 18.5% CAGR, you know, since we've been public, so a great story. Over on the right, you can see the revenue growth that came from it. I've put some clouds under the money transfer growth so you can see what's happening with unit economics. It's something we keep an eye on every day. The margin has stayed very robust in this space. We're doing the right things to keep them that way.

You can see that growth in money transfers, you know, plus an eye on the unit economics is yielding what you can see in revenue over to the right. What's really exciting for us is we're just starting to hit our stride in the West of the U.S. We're in the best and most profitable corridor in the world, and, you know, we're really hitting our stride in the West, and that's exciting for us. Get on the next slide, you know, more on efficiency. If you take a look at the EBITDA over on the left, growing about three-four points faster than the revenue. That's, you know, what we wanna do, what we wanna show. That's the operating leverage that we wanna show. You know, a couple areas that we've been driving within the business efficiency.

Randy touched on it before, but you know, when you're generating this type of growth, you know, our ability to find good payout partners that value the growth that we're delivering, and at a unit-economic standpoint from a payout fee standpoint, keep those fees down and bring them down over time is a great story for us. You know, also from a bank fee standpoint, most of, you know, there's a lot of hesitancy as it pertains to banks, you know, dealing with MSBs. You know, the fact that we've been public for four years, the fact that we have an excellent track record in compliance. We're regulated by 50 states who look at it all the time. We use external parties to come in and challenge us and make sure that we're best in class from a compliance perspective.

We now have more banking relationships than we've ever had. We have more banks lined up that wanna do business with than they ever have. That, you know, gives us a lot of banking options, the ability to keep those fees down. That's a big deal. One other thing on the EBITDA growth standpoint is, you know, there are credit losses in this industry. You know, our volumes went up 40% from 2020 to 2021. Our credit losses went down 13%. Super efficient performance by our internal team, keeping those credit losses down and making sure we're collecting on the short-term receivables that we're owing. Just underlying in the business, you know, it's just part of our DNA.

We're very careful from a spend perspective, very careful in terms of challenging where we're adding costs and what the benefits of those are gonna be. That's what you're seeing from an EBITDA standpoint on the left. If you talk about net income on the right, you know, keep using the word efficiency. Part of what's accelerating that faster than adjusted EBITDA, you know, more efficient use of our debt facilities and better debt facilities over time. You can see that flowing through. Then just benefiting from, you know, this model, we invest plenty in technology to have great technology. We are a CapEx-light model, and that's a huge advantage for us. I'll show you what that means in terms of cash on the next page. In two pages. It's worth spending a moment on digital.

We talked a lot about it. You know, great digital growth from a transactions, you know, originated standpoint. We think about digital in its entirety, right? We don't just build a strategy to make sure that we can capture more digital customers at the front end. The payout side, right, directly to bank accounts is a big deal for us, right? If we're generating the volumes that we are and paying out, we can incentivize our customers to actually pay directly into bank accounts. It becomes more economically beneficial for them. It becomes more economically beneficial for us. You know, we've got strategies on both sides to grow digital, whether it's digital send or digital received. One thing I can't underscore enough is we're committed to grow here, and we will grow and succeed in digital.

We are gonna keep an eye on unit economics, and we're gonna find creative ways to win in digital. Randy said, "Outsmart, not outspend." This is the result of generally a very efficient model. We generate a lot of cash. It's tricky if you try to look at operating cash flow depending on what day of the week the financial close happens. It can be kind of nonsensical because we are very microcyclical depending on the day of the week. When you take those timing elements out of it, we use an internal measure called free cash generated, and you can see it over to the left. Really robust cash growth over time. We pull down between 50% and 60% of adjusted EBITDA down into cash.

Over on the right side of the page, you can see, you know, what I call liquidity summary. We got a question on it from one of the analysts this morning. You know, that $132 million on the balance sheet, that's gonna differ by the day, right? I kind of have to caveat there's that microcyclicality in it. We ended the year with $132.5 million in cash on the balance sheet and the revolver at that point being undrawn at $150 million. Doesn't mean we never use the revolver. We've used it more in the fourth quarter than we ever have. We had a draw of $40 million on that revolver, but we sit in a great balance sheet position. The question, what are you gonna do with all that cash?

Best thing that we can do is reinvest in the business, which we're doing, and you'd see that within net income and EBITDA. Reinvesting so that we can go and accelerate on, you know, our growth and what we do well in very profitable spaces. Inorganic, we've talked about it more quarter after quarter, and I think we're deeper into the inorganic path than we have. You know, we think in 2022, we're gonna have the proof points of showing some success in inorganic. We're gonna be thoughtful, we're gonna be value-focused. We're not gonna chase the shiny object. We're not gonna overpay. Finally, returning capital. You know, we started the buyback program in the third quarter. You'll note if we were more active in the fourth quarter.

We feel that we can have both a meaningful participation in the M&A space and in the buyback space. I said, I think 2022 is gonna show the proof points that we can deliver on both of those. All right. Just in terms of guidance, you know, I won't go too deep into what we already talked about this morning, but from a top-line perspective, 17%-19% in revenue, and from an EBITDA standpoint, 15%-18%. Really, really solid outlook for 2022. This is not a layup. This is gonna be a lot of work. This is gonna be a lot of shoulder to the wheel.

We feel like we're off to a great start and feel like we can deliver on that. Finally, we get asked a lot about, you know, multi-years out, what could you look like in 2024? We, you know, put out our aspirational targets, which you can see on the left. Really think from a revenue perspective, we could be between $800 and $855. We think from an adjusted EBITDA perspective, somewhere between $140 million and $150 million. I think the good news about this is most of this is organic. Inorganic is gonna play a piece of this, but, you know, if we keep executing like we can execute, we can deliver a lot of this growth organically.

Over to the right, you can see just the evolution of our business. I probably should have used a much bigger pie on the bottom, but you can see from digital, that whole pie is getting much, much bigger, but digital is taking a bigger share of it. Now we're just talking about the digital send side here, but digital is taking a bigger share of it. You know, as I mentioned, we're just hitting our stride in the West. You know, great group of sales folks out there, great leadership, some different tactics than we used in the past, and we see being much more penetrated in the West at the end of 2024. With that, we can do Q&A or Bob's summary first?

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

Summary.

Andras Bende
CFO, Intermex

All right. I'll turn it over to Bob to summarize, and then we'll have some time for Q&A.

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

Well, that's it for today, folks. I hope it's been helpful. I think what we wanted to really make sure that we came across today is to talk a little bit more about our business in depth than you usually get from our quarterly earnings releases or those of you that have been with us in investor meetings. I think it was important for us to be able to show a profile of the very strong management team that we put together. I think all the members that presented today really have great command of their disciplines and have really brought a lot to the table. As you kind of digest what we've spoken about today, I hope that you'll take a look at and remember as we talked about the retail piece of the business.

We don't want you to think that we're not focused all on digital. We're definitely an omni-channel provider, but just there's so much misinformation about digital out there in the marketplace and about its sweeping control that it's taking over our industry. It really hasn't happened. We've seen that very clearly as of late with the latest, you know, solely online provider, I won't mention their name, that went out a little bit ago, and I think they're down about 80%. Unit economics, customer acquisition fees are very, very challenging in that industry. Very complicated relative to what we face. We are not at retail because that's all we know how to do. We're at retail because we know that's where the customer is. The customer will remain at retail for a while.

Now, we continue, as Chris showed you, building a great application for our digital, and we think that's gonna be state-of-the-art and be competitive with anyone. The important part that when we build that app, we'll be just as good as everybody else on the front end, but these folks are horrible on the back end, the digital guys. They're just like, if you ever don't get an Uber in the right place or you didn't get the right burger from DoorDash or Grubhub, try to get someone on the phone. We'll still have that same five seconds with a quality customer service rep that's gonna help that customer and sort things out. You learned a little bit from our guests, and I wanna thank our agent partners that came. Thank you folks for being here.

You learned a little bit from them how important that hand-holding and that quality of the connection to the retailer is. That's something that's sorely missing in the digital half, along with all the other things we've talked about, the unfamiliarity of the technology, possibly, but really the banking relationships and everything else. Today, we'll continue to really build and grow at retail. Please don't look at the folks that are shrinking at retail, the big players, as an example of what's going on. We showed you how big retail has gotten over the years and how we've been a big part of that, and we've been growing. There's some people that haven't executed well and decided to retreat from retail and become all digital, and they've really walked away from 80% of the retail market to Latin America today.

Please keep that in mind. Hopefully, we were helpful today in illustrating the team and the company that we built. With that, I'll turn it over if there's some questions for any one of the team for you folks to ask. I think we have someone circulating around with a microphone, just like the Jerry Springer Show. There's a question right here.

Speaker 8

Could you just explain a little bit more about the unit economics in digital, and especially you saw an 88% growth last year in transactions, but how the unit economics have changed year-over-year?

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

Well, the unit economics haven't really changed. There's two obstacles with digital. The first one is to get customers to come on board and do a digital transaction. Everybody's experiencing that we're aware of in the industry, somewhere between $75-$100 fee cost, marketing fee to drive someone to do a transaction. When you look at the lifetime value of that consumer, it doesn't really offset that. The second thing that the digital world or the digital online world really sprung into action because it said, "Well, we can disintermediate the retailer." You guys got to cover your ears because you'll be offended. Not by what I'm gonna say, but the market.

Really, when you look at the processing fees online and the fraud costs online, which costs us about $0.04 per wire for all our losses at retail. On digital, that could be $1 or $1.50. You've got processing, you've got fraud fees, you've got a lot of costs. Digital has tried to compress the industry as a whole, the pricing down to a level that is not sustainable. We see one of the recent companies that are about the same revenue as us that lost $10 million last year in EBITDA, and they came back and said, "We're gonna get bigger, and we're gonna lose $40 million this year." You figure it out for yourself. What does that look like to you?

It looks like a company that's struggling quite a bit and is going up against a proposition that doesn't quite work now. There's gonna be changes in the digital marketplace. You can't make it up in volume if you can't make it on unit economics.

Speaker 8

Can I just follow up?

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

Sure.

Speaker 8

I just said how are you doing it differently than the market to succeed in digital?

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

I think one of the ways we'll do it differently is we have 4 million real customers that when those customers walk away from retail, we can be there. We have a brand. We have customer service that's different and better. We don't intend on that customer acquisition fee to be anywhere near what it is for the marketplace. I think there needs to be work done related to the unit economics. I think you'll see prices come up, frankly, at retail over time, particularly in countries that don't have an FX component, because it's just not gonna be sustainable when you look at the losses, the processing fee, and the payer fee. We'll look at it from that perspective. We're not, as you can see from our financials, we're old school.

We're in business to make money, to do a great job with our consumers, but we're not building revenue that's unsustainable. It's one of the reasons we did so well during COVID. When everybody struggled, we grew 19% EBITDA because we have a real model that really works.

Speaker 10

It's Chris from Credit Suisse. Just wanted to dig in a little bit on the growth algorithm to get to the 2024 target. Just wanted to see the way you think about it, in terms of either existing customer growth versus new customer growth or existing location growth versus new location or-

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

Sure.

Speaker 10

Existing versus new market. Also specifically, how much of that would be inorganic?

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

Yeah, sure. Well, all the plans you've seen are all organic at this point. Anything that we would do that would be inorganic will be over and above the plans that you see, our guidance and all that. Andras and Randy, maybe each of you wanna chime in on the sort of the model and where we're going with that. I'll be happy to add in, but why don't you go ahead and.

Andras Bende
CFO, Intermex

Yeah. I mean, as you saw, we grew our ecosystem for the agent network by 12% year-over-year. You know, the ramp-up of those is, you know, they're usually in their second year. You're gonna see a kinda step change in terms of the productivity that they're delivering. We're 20% more in terms of customers. But, you know. I mean, Randy, what would you add to that?

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Yeah. I'm not sure I have much to say. I would just add that that second year ramp that Andras is responding to, I think it really does speak volumes to the fact that once the new agent gets activated, understands the value that we're bringing in terms of the system that we've delivered, the customer service, the banking, everything we're talking about, that's when they start to move some of their customers over, not just in year one, but in year two, and even into year three, we see that customer acquisition. I would just add that we're getting better. I think Jose Martinez brought it up with our marketing programs.

Our marketing team is getting better and better at using our relatively grassroots, not very, highly expensive type marketing programs to bring new customers to our franchise. We'll continue to improve that.

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

When we talk about the unit economics of the retail marketplace, when we put up a retailer, our all-in cost to put them in all the way to CapEx is about $2,500. With the average retail performance, we'll get a payback on that within about six- seven months. Then it's all gravy, and that retailer will continue to grow from there. Very different sort of model again, if you go to online where you might pay $75-$100 to get one customer in, and then that customer, you may not make a lot of money on a unit economics then.

A lot of what you're seeing in terms of our growth for 2022 is the fact that already embedded in our plan, the people that are already out and selling, we've added about, was it Randy, 10 more salespeople out West or what?

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

13

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

13.

Randy Nilsen
Chief Revenue Officer, Intermex

Oh, out West. Yeah, 12.

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

12 more salespeople out West. It's really a factor of how many people we have for how many people months out there targeting the ZIP codes, unlike any other company that's ever existed in our space. I know that sounds like a crazy thing to say, but it's a true thing to say. We are focused on understanding where the consumer is. There's no better proof of that than the fact that we average 400 wires per month per retailer, where the average in the industry probably averages about 125 wires to maybe even as low as 100 wires.

That methodology is when you look at out West, where we've added, I don't know, California, seven,eight people, we're gonna have ZIP codes that we don't have any presence in or we're underrepresented where our market share that we've attained relative to the opportunity is quite low. You know, anything below 20% for us is a market share in any given ZIP code would be a low performing ZIP code, and we would be going after that ZIP code for more retailers, better retailers. The way you really market that is our partnership with folks like you met today. It's not, there's not a lot of advertising or anything that's needed. It's a lot of point of sale. It's having the right product, it's our technology, it's the quality of our service.

It's having great agent retailers that already have a base of business, and typically, we're taking wires away from the competition when we come in. That'll be a big part of the beat. Typically, just to answer, just make sure I do answer the question, and we do answer it. If we're in the high teens% in terms of growth. Right? About a little more than half of that comes from what we would call same store. Any retailer, it's over 12 months, with a big part of that coming in the 12-13 through 24-month and 25 through 36-month.

The other part of it probably, you know, the, let's say if it's 18% growth, maybe 10 or 11's coming from same store, the otherseven or eight's coming from new retailers that are put up that are within their first inaugural 12 months with the company. Thank you. I think we have one from Mr. Scharf there.

David Scharf
Managing Director, JMP Securities

Thank you. A couple of questions maybe. First one for Chris. You know, regarding a lot of the analytics you reference, you know, with AI, machine learning, which are the buzzwords of the day. I mean, without giving away your special sauce, and I'm curious, does that relate to pricing? And is it telling you anything about any changes in the market as far as price sensitivity?

Chris Hunt
CIO, Intermex

I would answer it yes. I don't know if I can go too far into it, but absolutely. That's one of the areas we're looking to expand in specifically is around pricing, particularly using the machine learning aspect of what we heard today.

David Scharf
Managing Director, JMP Securities

Got it. For Bob, maybe you know, I think this morning when asked about potential M&A areas, you talked about product adjacency. You know, there are a lot of products to serve the underbanked, you know, and you're already rolling out payroll cards, GPR cards. As it relates to M&A, do you draw any hard line in the sand in terms of any service or product that involves credit risk in lending?

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

No. I think we've typically have thought about lending as something a little bit on the other side of the line for us. Part of that is because some of the established lending companies we've looked at charge very, very high interest rates that we haven't necessarily wanted to participate in related to our customers. That's been something that we've looked at with a little bit more of a jaundiced eye. I think when you think about M&A for us, we're further along, as we said in the call earlier today, than we've ever been in M&A. Nothing to announce yet. Hopefully, we will. Not a given, for sure. There are a few avenues of M&A that could work for us.

One is, as we've always talked about, there can be an augmentation of even our retail money transfer business in something that brings a country that we're not really strong in, or it brings a geography that we're not necessarily really strong in. Those are still options. Secondly, what could be another category could be things that would enhance our work related to card, GPR, and payroll card. There could be things that help us from the cost side from acquisition. There could be things that help us get a little bit further down the road with some business they built up, and we could cross-sell with that.

Lastly, I think that there are businesses. The way we look at our business is, particularly with the expertise we now have with Joseph with compliance and Chris with technology and Andras with finance, we're not limited only to the lanes that we've been in. I think we can move money and information faster and better than most everybody we know, and we can do it very efficiently and effectively given the fact of, you know, our financial performance and our cash flow and our cash on the books. We believe that there are adjacent things, like for instance, we've talked about before, and not to say this would be something we go into, but there are companies out there that are doing B2B stuff cross-border.

Same technology, same licenses, same banking arrangements, all of that stuff would be really helpful for us. There are other companies that are doing things like payroll on cards for specific marketplaces, the cruise industry, for third-party multi-level marketing companies. We think there's all kinds of opportunities out there that we could look at. The key for us always is to make sure that we're buying things that enhances shareholder value, and we're not just jumping, as Andras, he likes to call it, the first shiny object, right? Because we got a pocket full of money.

You know, one of the challenges we always have is that when we look at things, our own stock, even though it's had a pretty good day today in a bad market, still way if you look at where we were when we went public, we were $9.91, and we're more than 2.5x EBITDA, 2.5x net income. We've gotten rid of any remnants of the SPAC. We don't have any warrants out there. We've had 14 consecutive quarters of beating our numbers. The best thing probably we can do is this buyback at times when we can't find something that enhances shareholder value. We wanna find that. We think we have one or two we're looking at now.

We also think that we're so undervalued that we'll continue with the buyback that we've been doing because it's, there's nothing else we can buy more effectively than buying ourselves. Just got one over here. John.

Speaker 9

I was wondering if you'd talk about the online business again from two different parameters. One is this crypto approach. Facebook, if you believe the Israeli press, has basically completely caved in on their money transfer, but it's not clear why. Ripple seems to be in regulatory problems and so on. I'm wondering, could you go, maybe amplify what one of your agents said about the cost of crypto?

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

Yeah.

Speaker 9

Coinbase is talking about renting the Remitly network now.

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

Right.

Speaker 9

Remitly's, you said-

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

Remitly doesn't even own their own network, as you know. They go through Euronet a lot of the time. They don't even have a network. Their network is to hitch on to Euronet's and others.

Speaker 9

Coinbase is paying two levels of

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

Yeah, two levels up. Let me start with what was the last one that you said? Ripple. We saw the effects of Ripple. I mean, look at MoneyGram this quarter, and I don't wanna use the. I mean, that relationship with Ripple is, I guess, done. That was so exciting, right? It was the big news, and it had a great impact one year, and the next year it had a really negative impact. We've seen that. I think from a standpoint of going to the next piece, which would be the cryptocurrencies. They're highly volatile. As we talked about 80% or I think it's 90% of our consumers at retail are getting paid in cash or by check.

I just don't see a time when at the wall or the door of the orange grove in Fresno, let's call it, that there's gonna be someone handing out pieces of Bitcoin. It's very ineffective and very inefficient. You're gonna have to have a bank account first, which is the first limitation. Just like you said, it's one more removed. If somebody's buying Remitly's network, it's one more removed if you're gonna give to a Bitcoin or any of the cryptocurrencies, you gotta have a bank account to be able to exchange and buy that. Then if you buy that, you're holding onto it, and it's so volatile from day to day.

I know there's talk, you know, about the Facebook stable coin and stuff like that, but the Bitcoin itself and other cryptocurrencies have been really very volatile. Our consumers are not holding onto these. They would go in and buy it one day if they wanted to go ahead and open a bank account that they don't have, so they could then go and buy a cryptocurrency that they don't need to send a wire that might cost them a lot more money because it's volatile and it costs them money to buy it, and they go two steps versus going to these friendly folks like this that we brought in. We just don't see that happening. There just is no real value there. You know, the

It's very difficult to understand why, because you're not gonna save money, you risk a lot of volatility, and at the same time, you're gonna need a bank account. We don't see that happening. Relative to the online, I think online is going to be a real product. We think so. It's growing with us. We invest in it. You saw Chris's demonstration, and we're really proud of the front end that we put in on that. What we think is there's gonna need to be changes. We think we have a leg up because our customer acquisition cost will be much different and much more efficient because we have 5 million real customers that know us today, and whenever they're ready, we're not trying to push them to digital, but whenever they're ready, we're there and waiting.

And then secondly we think that the unit economics are going to have to change a bit related to online. When you look at that fraud cost, when you look at the processing cost, you look at the payer cost still, it is not a very profitable business. You know, you saw in one of the Andras's slides talked about that we still make an average of over $4 gross margin on every wire. Online is nowhere near that, nowhere near that today. Remember, they're starting out, in many cases, charging $4.99 or $4.99, Joseph? I think somewhere-

Speaker 9

Yeah.

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

$4.99. Our gross margin's 42.0%. I mean, they gotta pay a payer. They gotta pay processing. They've got fraud. It's not hard to figure out. I mean, the SG&A will be a little bit lower. They won't have a sales team, but that gross margin line is just horrible these days, and it's gonna have to change. We see that in some of the numbers that we've seen from people who are exclusively digital, how they've struggled to get their head above water and how they've done it mostly on the investor dime and not on the dime of the consumer who's willing to pay a fair amount for that service.

Speaker 9

Going back to the only example we have of online, which was Xoom, but in completely banked high-income corridors of India and the Philippines. They were break even EBITDA, but they were spending a lot on acquisition. Is there anything you can talk about either the fraud or processing costs in those banked markets versus your Latin American markets?

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

We work with a Philippine company online, and we process for them. We would be really careful when we started. Some of the Asian markets that are higher socioeconomic in terms of consumers, and therefore more online, have had terrible amounts of fraud coming in. We don't have a lot of experience with either of those markets. I do believe that the Indian market, the Philippine market, the Chinese market will all be better markets much sooner for online than will be Latin America for added reasons in Latin America over and above the customer acquisition cost and the unit economics cost.

Those are, you know, like we talked about the form in which our consumers get paid because they're more humble and they're modest income, because there's a lack of trust with the banks, because of the comfort level they have, because we have such a large Hispanic population, so we have large pockets of consumers that are very comfortable walking right. I mean, how it works is a guy just got paid. He just was at Home Depot today. He got paid $200. He helped some guy with his deck on the backyard or whatever it is. He gets dropped off right in front of one of these folks' stores or maybe even a store where he buys himself a couple of beers and some, you know, snacks to go watch the soccer game tonight.

While he does that, he sends his wire because it's really convenient. There's not a reason for him to go to the bank and deposit that and then go online and send the money when he's got that comfort level. When you're handing that cash, you wanna know the people, and that's that level of comfort that we think the retail market will continue to provide. Again, there's those markets like India, Philippines, China, Vietnam, that are going to be much more profitable sooner with digital because the customer acquisition cost is not gonna be the drain that is in Latin America.

Those unit economics are still gonna have to change because if you're starting out barely getting more money than we get at the gross margin line after we pay our agent, after we pay our payer, then you're really kind of starting out a bit in the hole, and that's where that is. The whole premise has been, you know, first started was, "Hey, you know, this retail business really gouges these consumers." It's a crazy notion to start with. I mean, the average consumer sends $400 and they pay about $12. They spend less than 3% to send the money to be immediately available in minutes in their local currency in their home country.

The whole notion of digital was, well, as if we were charging $30 or $40 in the old days of Western Union, maybe having really exclusive marketplace to Latin America. Their premise had to be, well, we're gonna come in and we're gonna save money because we're disintermediating the agent. They did. There's a lot of other costs that came in that more than replaced the cost of that agent retailer from our perspective. You did mention Facebook as well, and we can't predict what's. It seems as though Facebook is if not stopping, certainly slowing down with their notion of doing remittances, and that would-

Speaker 8

You read the press that they fired everybody.

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

That's a big deal, right? I mean, without a development team, Chris, we couldn't do it, could we?

Speaker 8

It's tough.

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

I tried to file the development.

Speaker 8

We'd figure it out.

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

They're really expensive, but we had to keep them. Other questions? All right. Okay then. We again thank you all for taking the time. We know you're all busy. Really appreciate you coming and hearing our story a little bit today. As they say, you know, up in the Catskills, tell your friends, right? We'll be here all week. Now we'll open it up for our cocktail party and, you know, we'll be around.

Speaker 11

Cocktails are down the hall.

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

Cocktails are down the hall. I think if you follow this lady.

Speaker 11

Follow me.

Bob Lisy
Chairman, President, and CEO, Intermex

She seems to know, and Laurie does. We'll see you all there. Thank you very much. Appreciate it very much. Thanks.

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