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Earnings Call: Q1 2023

Apr 26, 2023

Operator

Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for attending today's LendingClub first quarter 2023 earnings call. My name is Sierra. I will be your moderator today. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call, with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. If you would like to ask a question, press star one on your telephone keypad. I would now like to pass the conference over to our host, Artem Nalivayko, Vice President of Finance at LendingClub. Please proceed.

Artem Nalivayko
VP of Finance, LendingClub

Thank you and good afternoon. Welcome to LendingClub's first quarter earnings conference call. Joining me today to talk about our results and recent events are Scott Sanborn, CEO, and Drew LaBenne, CFO. You can find the presentation accompanying our earnings release on the investor relations section of our website. On the call, in addition to questions from analysts, we'll also be answering some of the questions that were submitted for consideration via email. Our remarks today will include forward-looking statements that are based on current expectations and forecasts and involve risks and uncertainties. These statements include, but are not limited to, our competitive advantages and strategy, macroeconomic conditions and outlook, platform volume, future products and services, and future business, loan, and financial performance. Our actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements.

Factors that could cause these results to differ materially are described in today's press release and our most recent Form 10-K as filed with the SEC, as well as our subsequent filings made with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our upcoming Form 10-Q. Any forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events. Our remarks also include non-GAAP measures relating to our performance, including tangible book value per common share and pre-provision net revenue. We believe these non-GAAP measures provide useful supplemental information. You can find more information on our use of non-GAAP measures and a reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in the presentation accompanying our earnings release. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Scott.

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

All right. Thanks, Artem. Welcome, everyone. Despite a turbulent quarter for the banking sector, we delivered against our financial targets. We strengthened our financial position. Our results demonstrate the advantages of our digital bank business model, the flexibility of our technology platform, and the ability of our team to execute. Originations came in at $2.3 billion for the quarter, with loans sold through the marketplace in line with our expectations and retained loans coming in ahead of our plan as we invested incremental earnings to grow our held for investment portfolio by 5%. I'd note we've more than tripled the size of the bank since our acquisition two years ago, demonstrating the rapid pace of our evolution.

Pre-provision net revenue, essentially revenue minus operating expenses, came in at $88 million, thanks to both higher revenue and effective expense management driven by the cost actions which we took last quarter. Given the recent banking turmoil, I want to take a minute to highlight how we stand apart. We've added slide eight in the presentation to demonstrate. Our liquidity and capital positions remain strong and well above regulatory minimums. We grew deposits by 13% and are now holding $1.6 billion in cash, with 86% of our deposits fully FDIC-insured. That's well above the bank industry average of roughly 50%. We now have over $4 billion in additional borrowing capacity. We hold minimum long-duration securities with a mark-to-market impact representing less than 3% of our total equity versus the industry average of approximately 15%.

Furthermore, our held for investment loan portfolio is primarily comprised of short-duration personal loans that currently have a fair value in excess of the carrying value. Turning to credit, our held for investment portfolio continues to perform in line with our expectations, demonstrating our prudent underwriting, cycle-tested data advantage, and resilient base of high-income, high FICO members. We moved early to tighten credit last year, and we are continuing to evolve our underwriting to reflect post-pandemic, post-inflationary signals. We have a massive data advantage gained from more than $85 billion in loans issued over the past 15 years and combined with a flexible technology platform that allows us to rapidly implement changes. The result of our early actions and our ongoing management is evident in our delinquencies remaining in line with our expectations and below industry averages. As we highlighted last quarter, we are focused on quality over quantity.

Borrower demand remains strong, and while banks remain active, fintech competitors have pulled back slightly, giving us even more latitude to be discerning about who we approve while also being efficient with our marketing spend. We're executing well on the factors we can control, and the business is performing as anticipated. Macro factors are, however, putting continued pressure on demand for Marketplace Loans and the corresponding marketplace revenue line. The rate-driven increase in marketplace investors' cost of capital has not abated. We are continuing to raise rates on the portfolio by deliberately testing our way into increased coupons for borrowers without causing adverse selection. In addition to the rate environment, the recent events in banking will have an impact on liquidity, especially for banks, and it's causing the broader economic outlook to become more bearish.

Neither of these items will be constructive for marketplace demand in the near term. To get in front of this, we are pursuing using our capabilities as a bank to generate returns for LendingClub, support access to loans for borrowers, and enable Marketplace Loan investors to achieve their targeted returns. One new example is structured certificates, which is essentially a two-tier private securitization in which LendingClub retains the senior note and sells the residual certificate on a pool of loans at a predetermined price to a predetermined marketplace buyer, effectively providing built-in finance. Both parties in the transaction benefit. LendingClub earns an attractive yield with remote credit risk, while at the same time earning fee income without upfront CECL provisioning. Marketplace Loan buyers earn strong levered returns with low friction financing on a liquid security. We successfully settled our first certificate just last week with an asset manager.

Structured certificates are one example of how our bank capabilities put us in a unique position to benefit our members, our Marketplace Loan buyers, and our business. While near term pressure on marketplace revenue is expected to persist, the environment will eventually improve, and we plan to be ready when it does. With credit card balances and interest rates at record highs, our opportunity has never been greater. Over 4.7 million high-income creditworthy Americans have already chosen us to help them access credit and find savings. We've spent the past several years investing in new capabilities in data and technology, servicing, customer care, much more to strengthen the foundation on which we've built our successful LendingClub franchise. With our bank, we've expanded our product set to include award-winning checking and savings products.

These provide new cost-effective member acquisition channels and new opportunities for value generation for both our members and for LendingClub. We continue to build on our success and are currently investing in how to make our products work together in seamless and innovative ways to unlock additional value for our members and our shareholders. As we witnessed during the pandemic, capital inflows accelerate very quickly when the market sentiment turns positive, and we will be ready to capture the opportunity ahead. With that, I'll turn it over to Drew.

Drew LaBenne
CFO, LendingClub

Thanks, Scott, hello, everyone. I'm going to start by diving deeper into our performance during the first quarter. Let's start with originations. Originations for the quarter were $2.3 billion compared to $2.5 billion in the prior quarter. As we have been discussing, marketplace demand for our originations was impacted by the current interest rate environment and its implications for cost of capital for our loan buyers. We continue to raise coupons, and we have now passed along approximately 250 basis points on originations in prime and even more in near prime as we continue to test and monitor the competitive environment for opportunities to further increase pricing while avoiding negative selection.

In terms of our retained volume during the quarter, we were able to retain $1 billion of consumer loans above the high end of our 30%-40% target range. Pre-provision net revenue was $88 million for the quarter, compared to $83 million in the prior quarter and $98 million in the first quarter of 2022. The outperformance compared to our guidance was driven by two items. First, the sequential increase in PPNR included $9 million in higher revenue, driven primarily by lower prepayments, increasing the value of the servicing asset and other factors. The slowdown of prepayments was driven by a lack of rate-based incentive for our customers to refinance out of their existing personal loan. We do not expect these benefits to repeat at this magnitude.

Second, we are seeing the benefit of lower operating expenses due to the reduction in force announced in January. We are also making improvements in marketing efficiency by optimizing for our lower cost channels and deferring additional marketing spend due to higher loan retention levels. Total revenue for the quarter was $246 million, compared to $263 million in the prior quarter and $290 million in the same quarter in the prior year. Let's dig into the two components of our revenue. First, net interest income grew 8% sequentially and 47% over the prior year to $147 million. When combined with our servicing fee revenue, 70% of total revenue is now recurring. This has been critical as marketplace volume remains under pressure.

Our net interest margin was 7.5%, compared to 7.8% in the prior quarter and 8.3% in the prior year. The change was due to increased cost of deposit funding, as well as maintaining higher liquidity levels in the quarter. The additional liquidity was raised late in the first quarter, it will create more downward pressure on net interest margin in Q2. The impact on net interest income will be minimal. Marketplace sold loan volume was $1.3 billion in the quarter, compared to $1.8 billion in the prior quarter and $2.4 billion in the same quarter of the prior year.

marketplace revenue was $96 million in the quarter, compared to $123 million in the prior quarter and $180 million in the same quarter of the prior year. As Scott mentioned in his remarks, the recent turmoil in the banking sector will not be constructive to demand. We expect heightened cautiousness, especially from our bank partners, as the implications on the economy are yet to be fully understood. To that point, we expect reduced bank demand for our loans in the second half of the year. We are starting to see asset managers become more active in the space as the yield on our originated loans and their cost of capital have been coming more in line. We are exploring new opportunities to better serve these investors.

As Scott mentioned, we just completed our first structured loan certificate transaction last week, and we expect to complete more during the second quarter. The result of these transactions is that we will drive originations and corresponding fee revenue while generating high-quality securities, which we intend to hold in our investment portfolio. Participants earn strong levered returns with these subordinated certificates, benefiting from the upfront financing at the time of the purchase. The security from the first trade will yield approximately 7% and have substantial loss coverage of over 2 x the expected losses at origination. We will start to report these securities in our investment portfolio in the second quarter. The program will start at a modest pace with the opportunity to originate higher volumes through the year. Please turn to page 14 of the earnings presentation, where I'll discuss expenses.

Non-interest expenses were down to $157 million in the quarter compared to $180 million in the prior quarter and $191 million in the same quarter last year. The decrease was primarily the result of the difficult aforementioned actions we took in January. These results put us well on our way to achieving the $25 million-$30 million annual cost savings target we had indicated last quarter. Given the difficult environment, we will continue to show discipline on expenses for the remainder of the year. Now let's turn to provision. Provision for credit losses was $71 million for the quarter, compared to $62 million in the prior quarter and $53 million in the same quarter a year ago.

The sequential increase was primarily the result of the $1 billion of consumer loans retained in the quarter for our held for investment portfolio. As you'll see on page 16 of our earnings presentation, credit is performing in line with our expectations, including the expected increase in charge-offs as the portfolio seasons. Our lifetime loss expectations remain unchanged from the prior quarter. Page 17 shows our expectations around the attractiveness of the marginal returns on the 2023 vintage, which also remain unchanged from the previous earnings call. Taxes for the quarter were $4.1 million, reflecting a more normalized tax rate now that we have fully released our federal deferred tax valuation allowance. There were some timing differences that resulted in an effective tax rate of 23%, which was lower than anticipated.

We continue to expect an effective tax rate of approximately 27% going forward, it can vary from quarter to quarter. Let's move to guidance. As a reminder, given the broader macroeconomic uncertainty, we have moved to quarterly guidance. For the second quarter, we expect originations between $1.9 billion, $2.1 billion, we do expect pressure on marketplace pricing as a result of the headwinds previously discussed. The combination of the volume and price declines will bring PPNR to a range of $60 million-$70 million, excluding any one-time items. We plan to remain profitable for the quarter. Entering the year, we saw the possibility of a tale of two halves. With continued macroeconomic headwinds in the first half and the possibility of a recovery in the back half of the year.

With the recent turmoil in the banking sector, we now believe that a recovery in the marketplace will be further out than that, and we expect more price volume pressure on marketplace revenue. Regardless of the market conditions, we have a resilient business and will remain focused on profitability versus growth for the remainder of the year. Finally, we took action to mitigate share count dilution from our equity compensation program by using holding company cash to cover tax withholdings on vested shares. We plan to maintain this program throughout 2023. As we look ahead, we see a massive opportunity ahead of us and believe we are better positioned than anyone else in the industry to capture it. We will continue to leverage our strong financial standing to maximize value for our borrowers, loan investors, and shareholders. Scott, back to you.

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Okay. Thanks, Drew. A few key points I'd like to make in closing. The environment remains challenging, but we do have an experienced team that has successfully navigated greater challenges than this, and we've got a business model that gives us a variety of options to navigate through. Our foundation is strong. We've got a growing deposit base and ample capital and liquidity to not only manage through the current environment, but also invest in future capabilities. We continue to be a provider of choice for our marketplace investors, and we're developing new tools to keep them engaged. The current headwinds will in time become tailwinds. With today's historically high credit card balances and interest rates, the opportunity in front of us is significant.

We believe that remaining clear-eyed and prudent today while continuing to build for tomorrow is the best way to create shareholder value and serve our members. I want to thank our board, including our two newest members, our management team, and our broader employee base for their continued dedication and commitment to our ambitious future.

Operator

Now we'd like to turn the call over for Q&A. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. To remove your question, press star followed by two. Again, to ask a question, press star one. As a reminder, if you are using a speakerphone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question. Our first question today comes from Bill Ryan with Seaport Research Partners. Please proceed.

Bill Ryan
Senior Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Good afternoon, thanks for taking my questions. First one I have is just on the margin, 7.5% in the quarter. I think, you know, you had indicated it would come down this quarter and then possibly start to rebound a little bit. Obviously with the added liquidity, it's going to be pressured into the second quarter as well. If you take out the liquidity, you know, you look at your personal loan yields, I think they were flat quarter-over-quarter at, like, 13.15%. What is the rate on new originations coming on the books? Essentially, would it be accretive to the NIM stripping out the excess liquidity? Following along that, how might these structured certificates impact in net interest margin as well?

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Yeah. Great. Hey, Bill. good to hear from you. Yeah, I think you have it right. The, you know, the NIM came down as expected, but 7.5%, you know, still pretty happy with that. The added liquidity build we did will put pressure on. Also, you know, we did raise deposit prices at the end of this quarter as well, just, you know, as added assurance for continuing to grow liquidity. I think if you strip out that excess liquidity, it's a little, you know, difficult to nail it down this early, but there probably still is a little more pressure that we have on NIM adjusting for the liquidity. The Structured LCLC, as I mentioned, will come on. The senior security will come on at 7%.

That is a bit dilutive to the yield we're getting on total interest-earning assets right now. That will pull it down. Again, we're starting that program small. I think at least in Q2, I wouldn't expect that to have a dramatic impact.

Bill Ryan
Senior Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Okay. Just one follow-up on the provision for loan losses. Specifically on the personal loans. Is there any way you could isolate for us the discount accretion versus, you know, call it the upfront, on the retained originations?

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

No, I mean, we don't, we don't break that out, but I'll say that, you know, the majority of the provision in the quarter was from day one, so more than 50%. The other pieces came in as we expected in terms of provision.

Bill Ryan
Senior Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Okay. All right. Thanks for taking my questions.

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Yeah. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from David Chiaverini with Wedbush Securities. Please proceed.

David Chiaverini
Equity Research Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Hi. Thanks. I wanted to follow up on the structured certificates. I was curious, you mentioned about the 7% yield that you're getting. You also mentioned about fee income, economics related to it. Can you discuss what those economics look like on the fee income side?

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Yeah. It will ultimately depend on where we end up pricing the entire deal. You know, we would, you know, be able to take a fee up front just like we would with any other loan that we originate. We would discount that fee and revenue based on the price of the total structure as it goes out. And I would expect as we're getting this program going, the fee income that we get, you know, on the small amounts we're doing as we're ramping will probably be thinner than we're used to seeing. Over time, I think we'll be able to work that price up.

David Chiaverini
Equity Research Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Effectively, as opposed to deferring the fee.

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Yes.

David Chiaverini
Equity Research Analyst, Wedbush Securities

-fee, we get to recognize it.

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

We get to recognize it just like we would on a sold loan.

David Chiaverini
Equity Research Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Got it. Helpful. I imagine that this will entice, you know, more, more credit buyers to work with you since you guys will be providing some leverage directly. To what extent could this lead to incremental originations for LendingClub? I'm assuming that the small amount that you're expecting here in the second quarter is already included in the guidance, or could it be incremental to the guidance you've provided?

Drew LaBenne
CFO, LendingClub

Yeah, I'll start. It's Drew. We are starting small. It is included in the outlook. You know, the point we're trying to make in the prepared remarks is, given the continued headlines in banking and, you know, conversations we're having with our partners, we are anticipating We're seeing the asset management capital beginning to, you know, green shoots there, right? That's beginning to reform. You know, when this whole rate environment started, we had anticipated they would be the most impacted and the fastest impacted, and they were. As that rate environment stabilizes, we get coupons up. We're seeing that some green shoots there.

Given what we anticipate to be banks now, potentially, you know, needing to really focus on their capital and liquidity and, you know, most likely be pulling back, we're viewing this as a way to help those asset managers participate in the asset class. Indeed, you know, you know, the first one we've structured is with a longtime buyer who was temporarily sidelined. We were able to step in and we're obviously a really effective counterparty. We only extend the financing at the moment they need it. We don't need to due diligence on the asset. We're very comfortable with it. We are seeing this as a way

More likely than I think over time as incremental volume growth. I'd say near term, it's more likely, enabling asset managers to pick up some of the volume, from, what's currently being dominated by banks.

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Yeah. I would just add as well. Not that we're marketing it, but I think we would see interest in the senior security as well. I think over time, we could play both sides of this more actively. There's a lot of interest right now, but as we said, we're taking it slow, and, you know, I think over time we'll expand.

David Chiaverini
Equity Research Analyst, Wedbush Securities

The last one for me on credit buyer demand. You mentioned about, you know, post, you know, SVB and Signature Bank going down that some of the appetite from banks is pulling back. Can you talk about if the bank appetite is pulling back more than the non-bank appetite, or are they both pulling back equally? Can you discuss that?

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Yeah. I, I think we always have buyers that are, you know, coming in and going to the sidelines. What we're seeing in our conversations right now is that the banks are signaling, not all banks, some banks are signaling that they'll probably be pulling back, and that's gonna lead to, we believe a drop in their participation in the second half of the year. They were better economics for us than the asset managers. We are seeing some banks that are actually coming in and buying more as well. Net net, it should be a slowdown in bank originations. On the asset managers, I think there's a lot of interest picking up. I would say it's not picking up at the prices we would like to see right now.

Over time, I think that will, that will correct itself. For, call it the second half of the year, we think we're gonna see continued pressure on price as the mix of buyers shift.

David Chiaverini
Equity Research Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from Reggie Smith with JP Morgan. Please proceed.

Reggie Smith
Executive Director of Equity Research, JPMorgan

Hey, good evening, guys. Thanks for, thanks for taking my question. I was hoping you guys could, I guess provide some qualitative commentary on the trends you're seeing in kind of application volume, maybe your approval rate, and some color around the characteristics of your newer borrowers with FICO score income. I have a follow-up. Thanks.

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Hey, Reggie. This is Scott. Great to have you pick up coverage. The trends, we covered this lightly. The trends are strong. We added the slide in our presentation materials where you can just see, you know, the balance growth and the interest rate that consumers are paying, both of which are the driver of appetite. That's strong. The actual competitive environment we're seeing is favorable. Banks, you know, anyone playing at the top of the spectrum, you know, which is primarily banks and credit unions, they've remained active. The fintech marketplaces and any of the non-bank lenders, even if they're a balance sheet lender, have the same cost to capital issues that we talked about with the asset managers. We've seen them pulling back.

Just in general, borrowers have less options right now. The net net of that is, you know, the kind of take rates or that's what we call take rates, which is, you know, borrowers accepting loans from us, has stayed stable even as we've raised coupons. That's important because we're being very, very, very careful to make sure that we are getting the borrower through the door that we expect despite all the change in the environment. In terms of what we're booking, you know, we've really been moving up credit starting over a year ago, that has continued. If you look at our HFI portfolio, you know what we're looking at it of the new stuff we're putting on.

You know, FICO isn't a driver of our pricing and scoring, but just as a kind of an objective benchmark, something around 730 for the new stuff we're putting on our balance sheet. In general, the, you know, the part of our business that was near prime, let's call that used to be, you know, that 600-660 range, that used to be 15%-20% of our business. That shrank. You know, in Q1, that was 10%-ish of the business. We've reduced. We've moved up credit, in terms of our approval rates. I would say buyers have also moved up credit, given the outlook on the economy.

It's one of the advantages of, you know, the fact that we are a full spectrum and can kind of go where the opportunity is. That's, that's kind of what we're seeing overall. I'd say the borrower conditions are quite favorable. The, the lender loan purchaser, as we mentioned, are we think are temporarily gonna be pressured. One other thing I'd note, which we missed to put in the prepared remarks is, given some of the drivers of the issues in banks right now, which is long-dated assets going underwater, we believe the other side of this, there's gonna be more interest in a short duration, high-yielding asset like what we produce.

I think the opportunity on the other side of, you know, kind of a more, let's call it once the environment stabilizes, are gonna be good on both sides.

Reggie Smith
Executive Director of Equity Research, JPMorgan

Got it. If I could sneak two more in. On the deposit side, obviously great growth this quarter. Are there any levers you guys can pull? Is there any interest in pulling these levers to potentially slow that down just to kind of protect NIMs, not let deposits get, I guess, too out of control or grow too much? My follow-up question on the structured notes. I think you mentioned like a 7% yield. Is there a way to structure those in a way that the yields to you guys is higher and maybe you take on a little more risk, or would that somehow trip CECL requirements or things like that? Like, how did you think about and arrive at 7% versus—

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Yeah

Reggie Smith
Executive Director of Equity Research, JPMorgan

— you know, potentially playing around with a, with a higher, mixed banking?

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Yep. Yep. Okay. Let me take deposits first. One point I want to make is the growth in deposits, we're still having a positive carry from a net interest income standpoint, or call it, you know, roughly neutral. We're not losing revenue in terms of that deposit growth that's coming in. As you noted, it is compressing NIM, which, you know, I view that as more temporary. I'm less worried about it. With cash on hand, you know, we can over time migrate that to higher yielding assets than just cash as well. We will slow down growth based on the outlook we provided in the second half of the year, which means our deposit growth will slow down as well, and we'll manage that through marketing, we'll manage that through pricing.

We also have still brokered CDs that will roll off over the course of this year. The majority of those brokered CDs were related to the Union Bank purchase that we did in Q4. There are some other levers to manage that throughout the year. On structuring the senior note, the senior security in the levered certificate, levered loan certificate, we definitely need to make sure that we are having enough coverage in terms of loss protection that we don't trigger any CECL requirements. That is a consideration. We also work with the buyers to think about what level of subordination they want to have or they want to give us in terms of the structure to get the effective yield that they want to get.

I think that yield can move around. It's always a negotiation with the person who's buying the residual in terms of how we structure that and what yields and returns that we all get through the deal. There's a long way of saying it will change deal by deal as we negotiate the terms.

Reggie Smith
Executive Director of Equity Research, JPMorgan

Understood. Thanks for taking the question. I'll jump back in the queue and let others ask their questions.

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Okay, great.

Operator

Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from Giuliano Bologna with Compass. Please proceed.

Giuliano Bologna
Managing Director, Compass

Well, congratulations on a great quarter. One thing I'd be curious about is when you think about the newly originated yields, obviously you shifted at higher end credit quality this quarter, so that kind of impacts things. You in the presentation, you highlight that you should be inflecting. I'm curious about, you know, the outlook that around the 2023 originations were from last quarter that was implying, you know, blended closer to 16% yields for 2023, you know, retained loans. Is that still what you're thinking? How should we think about that inflection I think, from a, kind of, a reported perspective?

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Yeah. I mean, I think this was obviously a great quarter for the unsecured, you know, consumer loan yield at the portfolio level. It's the first time in a while we flattened out. We do expect that to start trending upwards. We will be mixing in some higher coupon to move that up. It will be a gradual pace of increase, especially because I think while we held $1 billion this quarter, we'll probably hold a bit less next quarter and probably in the second half of the year as well. That migration will be a little more paced as we go through, as we go through the remainder of the year. You know, we're happy. We've been talking about the declines ending and increases starting, and we're finally there.

I think that's helpful.

Drew LaBenne
CFO, LendingClub

My reminder, it's not just the pricing, right? Pre-payments are also in that number.

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Yep. Yep. Pre-payments, the accretion of the deferred fee in there as well was very stable from Q4 to Q1. That can still move around on us in either direction depending on how the world evolves. For now, that was a stable factor this quarter as well.

Giuliano Bologna
Managing Director, Compass

That's very helpful. Thinking about you obviously raised some additional liquidity and had, you know, impressive deposit growth. I'd be curious how long you think, when you look at kind of the outlook for the year going into the year, it was, you know, you weren't realistically calling for much growth in assets. I'd be curious, you know, how you're thinking about holding excess liquidity and how long you'd like to hold that excess liquidity this year or if you'd like to hold it into next year when you get a little bit more growth and kind of grow into that deposit franchising increase?

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Yeah. I, you know, I think just to play out how the first quarter went, you know, we were overearning versus what we expected in the quarter. We put a bit more loan growth on the balance sheet, right? Which is why we were over the 40%, high end of the 40% guide. Obviously, as we got into mid-March and the bank failures happened, we focused very much on making sure we just had excess liquidity given the uncertainty and also to show the market, you know, what a great position we were in. I don't know that we're done with all the, you know, turmoil in the banking industry. I hope we are, but we're not sure. We're gonna hold on to, you know, some liquidity for a period of time.

The thing that, you know, is new for us as well is this is the first time we have pledged our personal loans to the discount window at the Fed. We've never touched that, but, you know, it's a contingent contingent liquidity option of size, of massive size, $3.5 billion that we did not have before. That, in some ways, gives us a little more latitude to navigate on liquidity in the future.

Giuliano Bologna
Managing Director, Compass

That's great. yeah, congrats on a great quarter, and thanks for answering my questions, and I'll jump back in the queue. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from Tim Switzer with KBW. Please proceed.

Tim Switzer
VP of Equity Research, KBW

Hey, good afternoon. I'm on for Mike Perito. Thanks for taking my question. I had another kind of follow-up on the discussion you guys had on some of the banks pulling back and possibly some asset managers starting to become a little bit more interested. Do you have what originations were in Q2? If we look at... I mean, usually it's seasonally higher in the second quarter, and so if we get what originations were, sorry, in March, I'm curious, like, did you already see a downturn in March once we started to get some of that banking turmoil?

Drew LaBenne
CFO, LendingClub

No. I mean, you know, I think our remarks were more, if you just go back to what was the driver of Q1 origination levels being above our guide was actually us retaining more. The marketplace volume came in in line with our expectations. You know, our partners, these are, you know, you know, we work with them on a, you know, a longer process. If we look at Q2, the guide we're giving is based on, you know, agreements that we kind of already have in place. We're really signaling post that is what our expectation is. You know, the banks tend to move a little bit more slowly, right?

They're going through meetings with their asset liability committee and their treasury teams and their board, and it's more us anticipating where we think this is going based on what's happening outside of us right now.

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Yeah. I think while Q1 is seasonally slower for us, I think the normal seasonality is dwarfed by, you know, the impact of the Fed raising rates at historic rates, the banking crisis, right? I would just suggest for at least for this year, just looking through the seasonality in terms of trends.

Drew LaBenne
CFO, LendingClub

Yeah, I think that's right. Again, the borrower demand is not the constraint.

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Yep. Correct.

Tim Switzer
VP of Equity Research, KBW

Right. Yeah. I was thinking if we look at what normal seasonality is, the difference there between what you're expecting is the impact from banks pulling back, right? With some of the asset managers starting to get a little bit more interested in if the Fed really does, you know, hike one more time and stop here, is there any way you can quantify the magnitude of their demand or the volume that the marketplace volume will be able to get from that maybe by the end of the year and, you know, how much of the bank pullback you'll be able to replace with that?

Drew LaBenne
CFO, LendingClub

I mean, our experiential view but then more grounded in what do we think happening this year. I mean, you can look at our results coming out of COVID. We added $1 billion to the marketplace in a single quarter, right? When I say capital can reform very, very quickly in this space, you don't have to look very far in our recent past to see that happen. It is our view right now, though, that we're not anticipating that in the near term. That's really because you know, rates has been what's been driving some of the dislocation over, let's call it, the past 12 months.

I think right now you got rates, you got liquidity, and there's just an overall, you know, more bearish outlook. I think people are more uncertain about where the economy is going, and, you know, there's just a general kind of risk off in the market that you know, you don't have to look at us. Just look at the way ABS transactions are going off. People aren't able to sell the residuals. You know, it's our view that until rates need to stabilize, that is a condition and ideally come down. The other is just a little bit more clarity on where are we going in the economy before we see, you know, really big change. Again, when that change happens, it can happen very, very quickly.

And you can see, you know, if you look at it's from a lower base than where we are today, but we put on, you know, quarterly growth rates, I think, you know, 50%, 60% quarter-on-quarter for multiple quarters in a row. It's there. Again, when the marketplace recovers, our earnings also recover, so we can grow the balance sheet. That's where you get the flywheel effect, just a question of when we see that kick in.

Tim Switzer
VP of Equity Research, KBW

Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. The last question I had was when you guys disclosed this workforce reduction, you estimated it would save about $25 million-$30 million of annual expense. If we just do a quick look at how much comp costs went down, it was about $15 million quarter-over-quarter. Is there maybe, you know... Are the annual savings maybe better than that?

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Remember we had a one-timer in Q4 of a little over $4 million in severance. We suggested you should adjust for that number when thinking about the base that we're going to save off of. Even with that, in Q1, we outperformed that on an annualized basis. There will be some costs that creep into comp and ben over the course of a year, you know, normal friction costs. I would say, though, we're, you know, on track to be above the high end of that by a bit. As we look into Q2, you know, I think our expenses, as we see it right now, ex marketing, will be relatively flat from what we know right now.

Tim Switzer
VP of Equity Research, KBW

Gotcha. Great. That's all for me. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Thank you for your question. There are no questions waiting at this time. Now I would like to pass the conference back over to the LendingClub team to answer any questions submitted via email.

Artem Nalivayko
VP of Finance, LendingClub

Thank you, Sierra. Scott and Drew, we have a few questions here for you that were submitted by our retail investors.

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

Great.

Artem Nalivayko
VP of Finance, LendingClub

Here's the first question. You have a big line item for capitalized software costs for the year. What is that going towards, and are there any new products coming on the horizon?

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

You know, look, as a branchless bank, as a digital bank, we're not putting our dollars into, you know, bricks, mortars, and the staff to run them. We are putting them into technology. If you look at just over the past couple of years, you know, we acquired a bank that had capabilities, but it was not a bank built to scale to the level we've scaled it. You know, launching the high-yield savings product with the ability to onboard... You know, I think last quarter alone, we brought in 24,000 new high-yield savings customers. We've grown deposits 80%. You know, that's an investment. As I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we've put in, you know, servicing capabilities, customer contact capabilities, new model development, deployment, and hosting capabilities.

You know, looking forward, we are still working on a mobile app that integrates lending together with spending and savings. That's what it's going towards. You know, taking a big step back and just looking at LendingClub versus its, call it, the more digitally enabled peers, I'd say, you know, we feel like we're running a pretty tight shop. If you look at, you know, metrics around whatever revenue per employee or any of those other line items, I think we're pretty productive there.

Artem Nalivayko
VP of Finance, LendingClub

All right. Great. Thank you. Here's the second question. What value has been created in your mind since the acquisition of the bank two years ago?

Scott Sanborn
CEO, LendingClub

I would say, this was clearly the right decision at the right time for the company. I mean, since we acquired the bank, we've tripled the size of the balance sheet. That's helped us deliver, you know, more than $300 million in earnings since we acquired the bank. As you can see in this quarter's results, the majority of our income is now coming off of the bank balance sheet. That's helped us grow tangible book value from a little over $8 at the end of 2020 to, you know, up 20%-26%. We're over $10 and almost to $10.25 right now. We feel the bank has delivered significant value and, again, the opportunity when the environment stabilizes, that's still to come is even more significant.

Artem Nalivayko
VP of Finance, LendingClub

All right. Great. Thank you. With that, we're gonna wrap up our first quarter earnings conference call. Thank you for joining us, and if you have any questions, please email us at ir@lendingclub.com. Thank you.

Operator

That concludes the LendingClub first quarter 2023 earnings call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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