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Earnings Call: Q3 2021

Dec 14, 2020

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Mama Mancini's Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, the conference will be opened for questions. If you have a question, please press star, followed by the one on your touch-tone phone. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press the star followed by the two. If you're using speaker equipment, please lift the handset before making your selection. This conference is being recorded today, December 14th, 2020, and the earnings press release accompanying this conference call was issued at the close of market today. On our call today is Mama Mancini's Chairman and CEO, Carl Wolf, President and COO, Matthew Brown, CFO, Larry Morgenstein, and Greg Falesnik, CEO of MZ North America, Mama Mancini's investor relations firm.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Greg to read a disclaimer about forward-looking statements.

Greg Falesnik
CEO, MZ North America

Thank you, operator. Before we get started, I'll read a disclaimer about forward-looking statements. This conference call may contain, in addition to historical information, forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws regarding Mama Mancini's. Forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to, statements that express the company's intentions, beliefs, expectations, strategies, predictions, or any other statements related to its future earnings, activities, events, or conditions. These statements are based on current expectations, estimates, and projections about the company's business, based in part on assumptions made by management. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that are difficult to predict.

Therefore, actual outcomes and results may vary and are likely to differ materially from what is expressed or forecasted in the forward-looking statements due to numerous factors discussed from time to time in this report and other documents which the company files with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, such statements could be affected by risks and uncertainties related to factors beyond the company's control. Matters that may cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements include, among other factors, the loss of key management personnel, availability of capital, and any major litigation regarding the company. In addition, this conference call contains time-sensitive information that reflects management's best analysis, only as of the date and time of this conference call.

The company does not undertake any obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect future events, information, or circumstances that arise after the date of this conference call. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Carl Wolf, the company's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Carl, the floor is yours.

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Thank you, Greg, and thank you everyone for joining us today. I'd like to welcome you to our third quarter 2021 financial results conference call. Third quarter of fiscal 2021 was a third quarter record, highlighted by revenue and net income growth as we aggressively market our products nationwide, as well as the expansion of our product line and fortification of our balance sheet. To that end, we're very pleased with our progress, with sales increasing to a third quarter record of $9.9 million, and net income increasing 80% to another third quarter record of $0.7 million. This growth was driven by new placements, effective merchandising, and continued success of our multi-channel marketing efforts.

Those were positive in the club store network and in packaged products, while sales in the fresh, deli, and hot items, while delayed due to COVID, they are beginning to recover nicely and we expect to be back to normal levels in early 2021. We continue to see rapid growth in our packaged full line, which now approaches about 20% of our total volume. Overall sales and margins were positive. With business slowly returning back to normal, we announced new customer authorizations, both in terms of new locations and expansion of existing placements at several major nationwide retailers. We expect a number of new placements to occur as we enter 2021, continuing our sales momentum. Our activity in food service, direct-to-consumer markets, and its exportation to Canada were temporarily halted due to COVID.

We're now beginning this activity again and expect to see exciting progress in the near term. We expect a record fiscal year in sales and earnings. However, we caution that with today's continually evolving macroeconomic landscape, accurately forecasting the future can be difficult. Our successful multi-pronged marketing efforts include radio campaigns, social media efforts, and continued work with QVC. I'd like to touch on a few of these now. We continue to see success in our SiriusXM radio advertising campaigns, as evidenced by the launch of six campaigns in calendar 2020. We launched a major new 11-week campaign earlier this year.

The SiriusXM platform distributed an estimated 4,000 Mama Mancini's commercials on all major talk and news channels, reaching over 75 million consumers, an avenue which we have found is a cost-effective way to drive sales across various geographical locations with current and new customers of our products. On the social media side of things, we continue to maintain a robust reach, engaging new customers and encouraging repeat purchases. To date, we have over 300,000 likes and continue to geo-target likely customers who live within five miles of specific retail locations. As an example, we are presently using this medium to successfully introduce a new Pasta Bowl at Publix supermarkets in the South Region, which just rolled out from originally 350 stores to 1,200 stores at present.

Our QVC efforts have been seen record success as well, with Mama Mancini's live pitches driving impressive sales on their platform. We have recently increased our on-air presence notably and have seen encouraging growth as a result. As many of you are aware, QVC is a large direct-to-consumer marketer and is available in over 100 million homes throughout the USA. We are pleased that QVC customers voted Mama Mancini's products as number one in three categories. Best meatball, best plant-based food over 20 items, and best condiment, spice, or sauce category during the 2020 QVC Customer Choice Food Awards. Mama Mancini's co-founder, Dan Mancini, accepted the award on behalf of the company. COVID-19 was a challenge for the company, but we were able to overcome and effectively run our operations without pause.

Fortunately, we were able to install safety measures significantly before our peers, which we believe helped mitigate the effects of the pandemic. We are very pleased with our overall cash position, our very positive cash flow, and our net worth growth. We believe we would meet uplisting requirements on our balance sheet as a result. Our cash position and net worth position continues to grow substantially in November, and the last warrant redemptions occurred on November 19. We estimate that current shares outstanding at approximately 36 million, with only 880,000 unredeemed management and board options. This is substantially below potential dilution expected. We currently estimate our cash position is close to $3 million, a current ratio of 2.2 x and with zero working capital debt.

Finally, before handing the call off to Larry, I'd like to note that we have engaged leading US investment bank, B. Riley Securities, to assist in the exploration and evaluation of strategic alternatives for enhancing shareholder value. These alternatives could include, among others, the sale of the company, a strategic business acquisition, continued execution of the company's business plan, or some combination of one or more of these possible alternatives. The process is progressing, and while it's too early to comment on the direction we will take, I see several exciting potential opportunities for Mama Mancini's as we enter 2021. I'd now like to turn the call over to Larry Morgenstein, our Chief Financial Officer, to walk through some key financial details from the third quarter of 2021. Larry?

Larry Morgenstein
CFO, Mama Mancini's

Thank you, Carl. Revenue in the third quarter of 2021 increased to a third quarter record of $9.9 million, compared to $9.3 million in the same year-ago quarter. Revenue year to date increased 27% to a record $31.4 million, as compared to $24.7 million in the same year-ago period. Revenue growth was primarily a result of increased sales to new and existing customers, partially offset by COVID-19, which slowed new placements in the third quarter and are expected to resume new placements in the fourth quarter. Gross profit increased to $3.1 million in the third quarter of 2021, or 32% of total revenue, as compared to $2.9 million or 31% of total revenue in the same year-ago quarter.

Gross profit year to date increased to $10.1 million or 32% of total revenue, as compared to $8 million or 32% of the total revenue same year-ago period. Gross margins increased primarily as a result of ongoing efforts to improve plant operations and efficiencies, partially offset by temporary negative impact of higher beef pricing due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Operating expenses decreased to $2.3 million in the third quarter of 2021, as compared to $2.4 million in the same year-ago quarter. Operating expenses year to date increased by 15% to $7.5 million, as compared to the same year-ago period. As a percentage of sales, operating expenses in the third quarter and year to date decreased from 26% to 24%. Operating expenses decreased primarily due to lower promotional expenses for product merchandising.

Net income for the third quarter of 2021 grew significantly to $0.7 million or $0.02 per share, as compared to a net income of $0.4 million or $0.01 per share in the same year-ago quarter. Net income year to date totaled $2.4 million, as compared to $1.1 million in the same year-ago period. The net increase in net income was primarily attributed to increase in sales, reductions of operating expenses as a percentage of sales, and a decrease in interest expense. Cash and cash equivalents as of October 31st, 2020, was $1.8 million, as compared to $0.4 million as of January 31, 2020.

The increased cash balance as of October 31, 2020, benefited from $2.5 million in cash flow from operations fiscal year to date, partially offset by a pay down of debt as the company reduced its debt by 84% fiscal year to date. We do not anticipate raising additional capital and are confident that the cash on hand, combined with our cash generated from operations each quarter, will be sufficient to sustain operations as we grow.... This completes my comments. I'd now like to turn the call over to Matt Brown, our President and Chief Operating Officer. Matt?

Matthew Brown
President and COO, Mama Mancini's

Thanks, Larry. Our operations performed admirably throughout the third quarter, contributing to the financial success of the company. We continue to be impressed with the day-to-day resilience of our staff, who are committed during these times to our continuous improvement efforts in production, planning, scheduling, and operational processes to improve efficiencies and manage the costs. Our scheduling efficiencies implemented during this quarter included staggered start times and spreading workday commitments, enabled us to manage overtime and well-deserved time off for some key staff while gearing up for the busy Q4, now in progress. We were very encouraged to see the cost of raw materials step down from the stratosphere during Q3, which contributed to the strong financial performance of our operations.

In particular, beef prices, our largest expense by the end of the third quarter, had returned to some sense of normalcy, down 28% from its high in May. We are keeping a close watch and actively managing our packaging material costs, as the online retailers have placed heavy demands on the corrugated box industries, threatening price increases and longer lead times. To this end, we have switched our corrugated suppliers, gaining price reductions and receiving on-demand inventory delivery three days per week while reducing working capital requirements. We are proceeding with a review of all of our supply pricing in an ongoing effort to reduce our costs with no impact on quality. Turning to our products, we continue to see expansion and demand for our family meal kits and individual pasta bowls.

These products, which use a combination of our own manufactured products combined with delicious third-party pastas, are produced and packaged efficiently in our plant, boosting our financial performance. We continue to see expansion in our Meatloaf products in the marketplace and continued improvement on a path towards return to normal in our bulk deli and food bar meatball products, whose demand has been impeded by COVID-19. The plant was very active in fulfilling demand for QVC in response to QVC's major promotion of all our meatball products, including a new recipe for our popular Stuffed Mozzarella Meatball and the introduction of our Meatloaf and Spinach Lasagna Roll-up products in the network.

We are continuing new product rollouts in Q4 with the introduction of both a new Sweet Italian Sausage product, which conveniently sold out just last week on QVC, and an Italian Dumpling Pasta product, which is scheduled to premiere in January. Q3 began the rollout of new packing room equipment, which will continue throughout early Q4. Our new Shanklin wrapping machine has already impressed us, moving our product 25% faster than our previous capacity on just day three of its operation. We anticipate accelerating improvements in capacity as remaining pieces of equipment, including automatic labelers and stronger conveyors, are installed this month. These improvements will also provide the operation with cost savings of approximately $30,000 per month. Our annual safe quality audit, or SQF audit, delayed by COVID-19, is now scheduled for the end of January 2021.

We are looking forward to the audit and anticipate nothing less than exemplary scores as we continue to educate our employees on good manufacturing practices and OSHA regulations. COVID-19 has altered the way many manufacturers view additional safety measures these days. During Q3, we trained a cross-section of staff in first aid, CPR, and automatic external defibrillator use and installed a defibrillator in the plant. We are continuing to move forward with implementation of the robust ERP warehouse management and accounting system replacement to improve our reporting and planning capabilities to meet the demands of the future streamlined electronic communications with our customers. We expect to go live in early fiscal year 2022. In summary, the plant continues to see record production numbers and labor efficiencies. We are responsibly investing in our equipment and our people and have established the capacity to manage our growing business.

I will now turn the call back over to Carl. Carl?

Operator

Pardon me, Mr. Wolf, your line might be on mute, perhaps.

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Oh, yes. Okay, good. So no one heard me. As I noted in my opening remarks—I'm going to start over again. That's really good. As I noted in my opening remarks, we continue to execute on all fronts and have laid the foundation for an incredible year. I am proud of the operational progress our team made in the third quarter, realizing strong year-over-year growth amidst the backdrop of COVID-19. We continue the growth and breadth and depth of our product distribution footprint and retail store transformation wide. Our strong financial results are a testament to both our sales engine and continued tireless realization of operational efficiencies. As we move toward the conclusion of 2020 and into 2021, positive potential outcomes await Mama Mancini's, from the realization of strategic alternatives to a potential uplisting and continued growth.

We are primed for another record-breaking year. I look forward to continue these efforts as we work to create sustainable long-term value for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn this over to the operator. Operator?

Operator

Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, if you have a question, please press the star followed by the one on your touchtone phone. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press the star followed by the two, and if you are using speaker equipment, you will need to lift the handset before making your selection. Our first question will come from Howard Halpern with Taglich Brothers. Please go ahead.

Howard Halpern
Principal Equity Analyst, Taglich Brothers

Congratulations, guys, on solid operating results during this, you know, during this pandemic time.

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Thank you.

Howard Halpern
Principal Equity Analyst, Taglich Brothers

First question is regarding, were there any kind of delays in product shipments that, you know, should have occurred in the third quarter, but might be falling into the fourth quarter?

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

No, but first of all, I'd like to thank everyone. We have close to 50 participants today, which is more than a record. And also, if I don't like a question, I'm gonna put it back on mute again. But any case, we did not have any delay in shipments. What was delayed was new realization of new authorizations. Basically, the whole industry shut down through July on new commerce. Starting in the middle of August, business really got very dramatic, and now we have several new placements in the works. And even now, this week, which is normally everything is dead, we are very, very active. So, I expect to see very, very robust growth coming here in the near future.

Howard Halpern
Principal Equity Analyst, Taglich Brothers

Okay. In terms of, I guess, the balance sheet, the remaining warrants, do you anticipate them being exercised, or are they gonna just remain on the books now for a while?

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

No, the warrants, you're talking about options. The warrants are all either exercised or expired.

Howard Halpern
Principal Equity Analyst, Taglich Brothers

Okay.

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

There's no more. There was over five million warrants. They are all in or not exercised. We have. I mentioned in my discussion that we have about 800,000+ options.

Howard Halpern
Principal Equity Analyst, Taglich Brothers

Okay.

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Those are options given to our management, employees, and board of directors. They will be exercised over the next two and half-three years.

Howard Halpern
Principal Equity Analyst, Taglich Brothers

Okay. And in terms of, you know, now you know, term loan is gone. You just have the line of credit. What is your capacity in the line of credit, which I think at the end of the third quarter, you had $650,000 outstanding. But just for flexibility purposes, what is your capability on that line?

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

We have a $3.5 million line of credit right now. As I mentioned in my discussion, we have zero outstanding on that. Depending on our needs, that can be expanded.

Howard Halpern
Principal Equity Analyst, Taglich Brothers

Okay. And, as you know, was discussed earlier, too, you've had some new equipment that just started up.

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Right.

Howard Halpern
Principal Equity Analyst, Taglich Brothers

What are we looking at in terms of capital expenditures in the fourth quarter? Are they gonna continue in the first half of next year, or is really the fourth quarter gonna, you know, button up the amount of capital, CapEx for the year?

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

We are budgeting around $300,000-$500,000 a year right now, with various upgrades and improvements. This quarter will end with the finishing of the packaging room, which was about $300,000 dollar range. Most, most of that is being financed through loans from M&T Bank.

Howard Halpern
Principal Equity Analyst, Taglich Brothers

Okay. And based on the implementation of the new equipment and the software system, can we anticipate, you know, as we go through next fiscal year, incremental quarterly improvement in gross margin, gross and operating margin?

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

We hope to see that as we create more efficiencies in our plants, absorbing plant overhead. There's one caveat in that. There's a part of our business which we call direct variable expenses. That is, shipping costs, any commissions or royalties, and any merchandising expense. So if the product mix changes at all, and those show up as operating expenses. So if the product mix changes at all to a customer that has very, very low cost of fulfilling the orders, you then may see a slightly lower gross profit. But right now, based on the mix we have right now, we should see continuing steady improvements in gross profit.

Howard Halpern
Principal Equity Analyst, Taglich Brothers

Okay, and one final [cross talk]

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Operating profits.

Howard Halpern
Principal Equity Analyst, Taglich Brothers

Okay, and one final one for me is, you know, now that, you know, hopefully things hopefully might get back to a more normal, normalcy in the second half of next, next year, with the, you know, re-engagement in the food service area, do you anticipate that the groundwork that you're gonna be able to lay down now will bear some fruit in the second half of next year?

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

By then or sooner.

Howard Halpern
Principal Equity Analyst, Taglich Brothers

Okay. Okay. Thanks, and keep up the good work, Carl and guys.

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Thank you.

Operator

Again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star then one. Our next, next question comes from Jeff Kobylarz with Diamond Bridge Capital. Please go ahead.

Jeff Kobylarz
Analyst, Diamond Bridge Capital

Hi, gentlemen. Thanks for the good update on how you're doing. Can you comment what the impact of higher beef was on your gross margin? Is there any dollar amount point?

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Well, it was modest, even though the prices went way up. We were able to pass along the price increases to customers fairly well. So, all in all, it was a very modest negative impingement.

Jeff Kobylarz
Analyst, Diamond Bridge Capital

Okay, fine.

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Okay, that's fine. [cross talk]

Now, we also cut back certain marketing activities to compensate for it. So the operating profit remained intact.

Jeff Kobylarz
Analyst, Diamond Bridge Capital

Sure. All right. And then as far as the coronavirus, is there any way you can say in this year, year to date, what the impact was? You know, there's the trend is more eating from home, but then there have been, I think, delays in orders from customer retailers to put through additional authorizations for placements. Is there any way you could talk about those pros and cons of the virus?

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Sure. I would say in the spring of the year, when there was panic buying and consumers stocked up, and also panic buying because of meat shortages, it had a positive effect on sales and profits. And then later in the year, as we grew our business, those sales remained or backed off slightly because there was an inventory build. However, our bulk deli business, our hot bar business, backed off because of less consumption in supermarkets. That now is starting to perform toward normal. It also pushed back new merchandising activity and authorization, which is running very positively, running later in the year. All in all, I would say it's been neutral.

Jeff Kobylarz
Analyst, Diamond Bridge Capital

Okay. Thank you.

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Good to hear.

Jeff Kobylarz
Analyst, Diamond Bridge Capital

Sure.

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Good to hear.

Jeff Kobylarz
Analyst, Diamond Bridge Capital

In the press release and what Matt said about how you're increasing your capacity in your plants, can you say how much you've increased your capacity in your plants and what's your, your-

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Well, we, we've given guidance on that. The capacity in the plant is somewhere, we think today, around $65 million a year with the right product mix. And then we have, options to increase that by another, $10 million-$15 million by using, having some of the components made by, co-packers for us. Not the final product, some of the components. So, so we think we have $75 million-$80 million worth of capacity with some, modest investments, not major, with where we stand right now.

Jeff Kobylarz
Analyst, Diamond Bridge Capital

Okay. All right, great. And then you've had a number of great announcements, like you said in the press release, since August. The Publix 1,250 stores, so Walmart, 600, et cetera. Is there any way to quantify what the annual volume revenue is from those additions?

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

So we try not to let people know that, because one chain doesn't like that. So if you notice, we tend to group new placements together.

Jeff Kobylarz
Analyst, Diamond Bridge Capital

Yeah.

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

So, the Walmart was a one-time rotation. It was very successful, and we will hear very soon as to whether it's a permanent placement this spring. If so, it would be a very, very nice addition to our lineup. But it was not in all stores at Walmart, and it was not in for, it was only in for about eight weeks. But we did very well, and it appears that we met all of their requirements.

Jeff Kobylarz
Analyst, Diamond Bridge Capital

Oh, great. Good to hear. All right. Thanks very much for answering my questions.

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from James Bogin with Legend Capital. Please go ahead.

James Bogin
Research Analyst, Legend Capital

Hi, good afternoon. I was wondering if you could give us any update about what you're doing with B. Riley, given that that's about two and a half months old now, or what your plans are to list on the regular NASDAQ?

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

We should have a pretty good idea of where we are on strategic decisions by mid to late January. And that would include uplisting. We now think we meet all of the requirements except for stock price in terms of equity and earnings. So we will make a decision at that point.

James Bogin
Research Analyst, Legend Capital

Thank you very much.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Carl Wolf for any closing remarks.

Carl Wolf
Chairman and CEO, Mama Mancini's

Thank you, Operator. As a final note, once COVID-19 subsides, we will continue to be active in attending top investor conferences and investor non-deal roadshows marketing on both coasts of the U.S. In the meantime, we will continue our efforts on a virtual basis. If interested in scheduling a meeting with management when we are in your region, please reach out to our IR firm, MZ Group, to arrange. Thank you again for joining us today. We look forward to continuing to update you on our progress. Thanks again.

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