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Earnings Call: Q2 2023

Jul 25, 2023

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Medallion Financial second quarter 2023 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question- and- answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Ken Cooper, Investor Relations for Medallion Financial. Thank you. You may begin.

Ken Cooper
Director of Investor Relations, Medallion Financial

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Medallion Financial Corp.'s second quarter earnings call. Joining me today are Andrew Murstein, President and Chief Operating Officer, and Anthony Cutrone, Chief Financial Officer. Certain statements made during the call today constitute forward-looking statements made pursuant to and within the meaning of the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, as amended. Such forward-looking statements are subject to both known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. Those risks and uncertainties are described in our earnings press release issued yesterday and in our filings with the SEC. The forward-looking statements made today are as of the date of this call, and we do not undertake any obligation to update these forward-looking statements.

In addition to our earnings press release, you can find our second quarter supplement presentation on our website by visiting medallion.com and clicking Investor Relations. The presentation is near the top of the page. With that, I'll turn it over to Andrew Murstein, President.

Andrew Murstein
President and COO, Medallion Financial

Thank you, Ken. Good morning, everyone. Medallion Financial had a great second quarter with continued growth and profitability. For the second quarter, we generated $14.2 million of net income and $0.62 of earnings per share. Our return on equity was 18.2%, and our return on assets was 2.6%. All remain strong and reflect the healthy state of our business. The main driver of our bottom line continues to be our consumer lending businesses, which had another quarter of significant origination volumes. Our consistent performance validates our strategy of using a national base of 3,000 dealers and 1,000 contractors to source loans. We then deliver premium customer service to make it easy to do business with us. This customer service reinforces loyalty to Medallion, which is important in times like we are in.

Further, by maintaining rigorous underwriting standards, we are targeting borrowers that have a high propensity to timely pay their loans. This has helped us keep our returns high and our losses low. Our performance was also driven by our second straight quarter of cash collections over $10 million on Taxi Medallion assets. Our entire team is doing a wonderful job on this. However, I again stress that payment patterns are not expected to be linear. We expect quarters to be low, high, and in between. We have a talented team led by Alvin Murstein, who is possibly one of, if not the most knowledgeable authority on the Taxi Medallion industry in the U.S. As I mentioned, our consumer lending businesses surged in the second quarter and had more strength than we have seen over the past several quarters.

We believe that this is in part due to resilient U.S. consumers who continue to invest in home remodel projects, boats, and RVs. We also believe some industry players have scaled back on this business or even left it altogether. When this happens, it creates an opportunity for us to pick up market share. Of course, it's related to our teams within our consumer segments who are doing an exceptional job day in and day out. This also happened in 2008. We, of course, came out at that time, larger and stronger. When we had lower than usual loan provisions in 2021 and 2022, we said that they would bounce back to a more normalized level, and they are doing just that. Similarly, our origination levels are higher than normal.

With the growth of our loan portfolio, we increased net interest income 20% year-over-year to $46.7 million. This has been fueled by our ability to raise our own rates combined with the growth of our loan portfolio. We will continue to maintain flexibility in the pricing of new originations to counteract further increases in borrowing rates. Home improvement continued to be our fastest-growing segment. While the growth continues to put pressure on our total company net interest margin, our net interest income continues to expand. Our REC business continues to deliver our highest average interest rates of 14.62%. It is also our most profitable segment and our biggest, now at $1.3 billion of assets.

Our commercial business stayed flat compared to the first quarter, in which we originated $5 million of loans and had roughly that same amount of payoff activity on loans. Commercial earned just over $1 million for the quarter again and has a solid pipeline that should lead to increased originations in the future. With that, I will now turn the call over to Anthony, who will provide some additional insight into our quarter.

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

Thank you, Andrew. Good morning, everyone. For the quarter, net interest income grew 20% to $47 million from the prior year. The driver of this being growth in our loan portfolio, in addition to increasingly higher interest rates on our loans, which have helped to counter the rising cost of funds we continue to experience. Our net interest margin on gross loans was 8.48% for the quarter, as compared to 8.78% in the prior year quarter. The compression in net interest margin has been expected for some time now. Although we experienced a 30 basis point reduction from the prior year, when compared to the first quarter, our margin increased 6 basis points.

We have seen for a few quarters the weighted average coupon on our loans increase. This increase is reflected in our yield, and although our cost of funds continues to track higher, we've been able to pass along a portion of that increase. Specific to originations, we are currently writing at rates of 10%-11% on home improvement loans and around 16% on recreation loans. Our provision for credit loss was $8.5 million for the quarter, compared to $7.8 million in the prior year quarter. The increased provision is a result of the continued normalization of losses in our consumer portfolio, as well as the provision taken in connection with growing all of our loan portfolios, both of which were offset by $5.3 million of recoveries on Taxi Medallion loans.

Our operating expenses of $19 million increased 1% from the prior year and reflect increases in employee-related costs associated with a growing headcount at our operating subsidiaries, Medallion Bank and Medallion Capital. This increase is offset by lower legal and professional fees. For the quarter, net income attributable to our shareholders was $14.2 million, and our diluted earnings per share was $0.62. That covers our second quarter financial results. Andrew and I are now happy to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question- and- answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we pull for questions. Thank you. Our first question comes in line of Mike Grondahl with Northland Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Mike Grondahl
Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst, Northland Securities

Hey, guys. Thanks. Hey, the first question. Andrew, you talked a little bit about competition in the consumer space, sort of, scaling back, pulling back similar to 2008. I don't know, could you, could you just, provide maybe some more details there about the competitive environment? I mean, I think RV sales industry-wide were down about 40%, but you guys grew, you know, consumer loans nicely. Just trying to understand that a little bit more.

Andrew Murstein
President and COO, Medallion Financial

Sure. I think that's really the story of the quarter, is that there is less competition out there, and we continue to take and grow our market share. We did that even though we tightened credit and raised rates. We just still had very strong loan demand. Mike, as you mentioned, it was exactly the same scenario in 2008, 2009 or so. It's just that we've been in this business for so long. The management team has been doing it for 30 years or so. They really have a loyal following. Other lenders come in and leave, the dealers know we're in it for the long haul and continue to send us a lot of their business.

Mike Grondahl
Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst, Northland Securities

Got it. Got it. Then one for Anthony. Anthony, the provision was $8.5 million in the quarter. You said I think you said that was offset or there was a $5.3 million recovery tied to taxis that offset that. Do I think of kind of the gross provision as like $13.8 million, or could you just clarify there?

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

Yeah. The $5.3, that's the benefit we got. We recognized, on, you know, these settlements that, you know, have led to, you know, the cash that's come in the door these past couple of quarters. Yeah, if you were looking for a provision excluding the Medallion segment, you'd add back that $5.3.

Mike Grondahl
Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst, Northland Securities

Okay. Okay. And then, hey, lastly, could you talk about. I didn't see him in the press release, sort of net charge-offs, kind of by vertical in sort of dollars and percents in 2Q 2023 as compared to 2Q 2022?

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

Sure. If we exclude the Medallion piece, we're seeing charge-offs. You know, they've ticked up the past couple of quarters. Net charge-offs were $3.8 million, and that included $4.9 million of a net benefit from the Medallion space. If you back that out, we had net charge-offs of $5.9 million on the rec side. Home improvement was $1.9 million, commercial was $900,000. In terms of a percentage on the port weighted average percentage on the portfolio, we're probably around 187 basis points on the rec and 112 or so on the home improvement current quarter.

Mike Grondahl
Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst, Northland Securities

Got it. Thanks. I'll jump back in the queue.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from line of Matt Howlett with B. Riley Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Devitt
Managing Director, B. Riley Securities

Morning, everyone. This is Michael on for Matt. I just want to lead off with the congrats on the great quarter.

Andrew Murstein
President and COO, Medallion Financial

Thank you, Michael.

Michael Devitt
Managing Director, B. Riley Securities

I noticed that average interest rates ticked up slightly across the board. Could you speak to your 2Q pricing strategy and if that's changed at all to date?

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

Sure. Yeah. For a number of quarters now, you know, with new originations, we've been increasing the rate we charge on these new loans. This started, probably, you know, about a year ago as the Fed, you know, went down the path of raising interest rates. We took, you know, we didn't jump right in, with increasing our rates, but we did eventually do that, pull the trigger, you know, about a year ago. Given the size of our book of business, it's slow for that rate increase to trickle through in terms of the yield. Essentially, all of our loans are fixed rate. The new ones come on at a higher rate.

The old ones that are amortizing off are at a lower rate, so it's slow to for that yield to come up. We have for two or three quarters now, 4 quarters, actually seen modest increases in the weighted average coupon of these loans. I think that's what's flowing through. This is something that we've been saying for a couple of quarters now, is that even with interest rates and, you know, our cost of borrowings increasing, we expected there to be compression in our NIM. At the same time, we thought we'd be able to grow net interest income because our top line's growing, not as fast as the cost of funds, but, you know, pretty close to it.

Michael Devitt
Managing Director, B. Riley Securities

Got it. Okay. You spoke to yields a little bit. They're slower to trickle in, but so for home improvement, specifically, saw that didn't pick up in the second quarter. Do you have any commentary there in particular?

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

Yeah. You know, in terms of home improvement, you know, our average coupon is about 9.21. At the end of the quarter, it was 8.83. There is some improvement. You know, we're writing new paper at, you know, just below 11% on new originations. Again, it's a function of the size of the portfolio. As we write those new loans at higher rates, you know, slowly it lifts up the yield and the average rate.

Michael Devitt
Managing Director, B. Riley Securities

Got it. Makes sense. Second here, for overall portfolio growth, another great point for the quarter. Could you speak kind of quarter to date, any guidance on where that is?

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

You know, I think, you know, what we saw in the first half of the year, particularly the second quarter, is that return to seasonality. Originations were very strong in Q2.

Michael Devitt
Managing Director, B. Riley Securities

Right.

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

Which is, you know, if we go back to a pre-COVID era, that's typically what we saw. Then they come in some. We grew a lot in Q2. We don't anticipate growing at that level in Q3. You know, we've taken steps to moderate our growth. We've increased rates. We'll continue to do that, and we've tightened credit. I think, you know, Q3 historically is one of those ones where things start to slow down, and then it bumps up a little bit and then comes down. It's that seasonality that we haven't experienced in a couple of years. We think we're back there.

Michael Devitt
Managing Director, B. Riley Securities

Sure. Okay. Last question here. As far as current capital levels go, could you give any updates there as well as just some commentary on your general market outlook? I'll jump back in the queue.

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

Yeah. I think for at Medallion Bank, you know, we ended the quarter with Tier 1 just over 16%. You know, we declared a dividend of $0.8 a share. You know, we experienced a lot of growth, and in order to maintain that growth, we need to retain a fair amount of our capital. You know, to the extent that, you know, we have earnings, like we do, you know, we think our best outlook and the best thing we could do for the, for the future is to reinvest in our businesses. That's where we're taking a significant portion of our earnings, putting it back in the business, retaining it there, and growing and growing our balance sheet.

Michael Devitt
Managing Director, B. Riley Securities

Got it. Much appreciated. Again, congrats on the great quarter.

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

Thanks, Michael.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Christopher Nolan with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please proceed with your question.

Christopher Nolan
Senior Vice President, Ladenburg Thalmann

Anthony, on the comment you just made on retaining capital to grow the balance sheet, we should imply from that dividend increase is not in the cards?

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

Yeah, I wouldn't say it's. I'm not going to comment. You know, these are actions that the board has to take. You know, when we reestablish the dividend and put it back, you know, just over a year ago, you know, the intent is to pay a good dividend that over time can increase. You know, the, you know, given the growth that we experienced in Q2, you know, we didn't think it prudent to increase that dividend. You know, as we, as we see how the next couple of quarters unfold, that'll determine, you know, the dividend policy that's taken.

Andrew Murstein
President and COO, Medallion Financial

I'd say also, Chris, dividends and buybacks are very important to us, both of those things. The hope is to do both of them. As Anthony correctly pointed out, it depends really upon the loan demand. If more of our competitors leave the market, we may want to continue to grow market share, but if the seasonality comes back into play and we don't have the growth as we expect, we won't have the first half of this year, then we start focusing on those two things, on the buybacks and the dividends.

Christopher Nolan
Senior Vice President, Ladenburg Thalmann

Okay. Is it correct to say that the recreational segment was the driver of the incremental loan growth in the quarter?

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

Yep. Yeah, that, I mean, that's our crown jewel. That's where a vast amount of our income is generated, and that's where significant, you know, volumes of originations occur.

Christopher Nolan
Senior Vice President, Ladenburg Thalmann

Great. Should we read anything in terms of the lower professional fee expenses?

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

I think, you know, for three quarters now, we've experienced what, you know, we see as normalized professional and legal fees, you know, and that's a good thing. You know, they'll fluctuate from time to time going forward. For right now, you know, that's, I think that's the current run rate.

Christopher Nolan
Senior Vice President, Ladenburg Thalmann

Great. Last question, the Taxi Medallion recoveries, you guys had $10.6 million into Medallion repays, but only $5.3 million in recoveries. I thought that all the Medallion loans were nonaccrual, so any repayments you get were treated as a recovery.

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

As the, as the recoveries come in, as the cash comes in, they reduce the asset. We don't recognize any income until the asset's reduced to zero, at which point we start recovering. We had the $5.3 million that was in the provision. There was another $1 million or so that we recognized on the disposition of actual foreclosed Medallions. The difference between what we collected and those two numbers, that reduced our total exposure.

Christopher Nolan
Senior Vice President, Ladenburg Thalmann

Okay, part of it is already reserved?

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

Yes.

Christopher Nolan
Senior Vice President, Ladenburg Thalmann

Okay. I guess final question, you guys are sort of in a, you know, the competitive environment's improving and the operating. What's your thinking about in terms of your reserve ratio outlook? I'm trying to get a sense as to, are you guys in a mode to build reserves or keep it steady, or how should we look at that?

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

We think we've got fairly healthy reserves right now. You know, on the rec side, you know, we're over 400 basis points, and on the home improvement side, we're over 200 basis points. That's nearly double in both of those, what our charge-off experience has been this past quarter. As you know, if, you know, what's going to determine this, you know, long term is, you know, what the economy does. My crystal ball isn't working very well right now, and it hasn't been for a couple of years. You know, if the economy takes a turn and the consumer, our, particularly our consumers, start to feel pressure, I think those re-rates will tick up.

If we continue at this level, I would expect them to stay the same.

Christopher Nolan
Senior Vice President, Ladenburg Thalmann

Okay, that's it for me. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Grondahl with Northland Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Mike Grondahl
Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst, Northland Securities

Hey, guys, just to follow up on sort of overall loan growth. I think what you guys are saying is, hey, 2Q was really strong. Seasonality historically kicked in, so it was like historic trends. Are you sort of saying, hey, we expect some natural moderation in the second half?

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

Yeah.

Mike Grondahl
Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst, Northland Securities

Secondly, where are sort of current CD prices, and what's sort of the overall outlook for the net interest margin?

Andrew Murstein
President and COO, Medallion Financial

You'd expect growth to slow. I mean, we've been growing 20% on the RV and marine and 40% on home improvement. Those are very impressive numbers. They won't continue for forever. Frankly, about a year ago, we thought it would slow, and it didn't. It's hard to predict when our competitors leave the market as they've been doing. We just are pleasantly surprised, and it really is a boost to our earnings and our growth. We think it'll return to seasonality. Again, you don't really know. This business continues to do tremendously well for us, and the hope is we continue to grow it at those rates. We really plan for a typical growth, which is less than that. In terms of the CD rates, Anthony could address.

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

The only thing I'll just add to what Andrew said is that even though, you know, we're seeing, you know, some competitors leave the market, you know, We haven't just picked up all of that excess. We've stepped up credit. You know, our average FICO has gone up again, and we've increased, you know, the rates that we're charging on new originations. We see it as a win. I don't want to speak about, you know, what Andrew already said, but, you know, this is similar to what we experienced, you know, a number of years back during the Great Recession. As far as CD rates, you know, we're seeing, you know, they've come down some in the past month or so.

Three year CDs, we're seeing at about 4.85% all in, and five year new issuances are around 4.60%. You know, our average deposit rate is 2.70%. I mean, this isn't a shock to anyone. We've been saying this all along. You know, we expect our cost of funds to continue to increase. You know, we were seeing, you know, five year CDs, you know, north of 5.25% just a few months ago. They have come down some and, you know, I guess we'll see what the Fed decides to do in the next couple of meetings. Again, we've passed along a significant amount of that.

Although our NIM, you know, has compressed, you know, year-over-year, and we do expect, you know, a little bit more compression, you know, we do think that our top-line growth is enough to, you know, make sure that our net interest income continues to grow.

Mike Grondahl
Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst, Northland Securities

Yeah, you've done it. You've done it so far. Hey, two last quick questions? Was there any stock buyback in the quarter? Secondly, you know, just in the financial statements, I think there's roughly $68 million in short-term debt now. Can you just remind us what that is and sort of, you know, how you're dealing with that?

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

Sure. First question, no, we didn't buy back any stock in the quarter. Second question on short-term debt. There's pretty much three components there. The largest one being $36 million of private notes that come due in March 2024. We'll, you know, we've got a couple of options there. We've got, we've had discussions with the current holders, and we're speaking with new holders. You know, the intent is to roll that credit, whether it's with the existing lenders or new lenders, that'll be determined. We've got some options there. In terms of pricing, that $36 million has a coupon of eight and a quarter. It's probably 50-75 basis points, you know, below where we think it would reprice today.

That's something we'll be doing and working through in the next, you know, quarter or two. The other large piece in that, we had $28 million of borrowings with the Federal Reserve through the Fed window at Medallion Bank. It just so happened that it landed at quarter end, it was just a mechanism to increase cash on hand and liquidity. I think we had it outstanding for three or four days. Earlier in the quarter, we had taken a bunch of our investment securities and, you know, taken steps to pledge them with the Fed.

That borrowing you saw at the end of the quarter, one, increased liquidity just for a short amount of time, two, we wanted to test it and make sure that we operationally understood how it worked and everything, and how the mechanics work. Those borrowings have since been replaced with CDs.

Mike Grondahl
Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst, Northland Securities

Got it. Got it.

Anthony Cutrone
CFO, Medallion Financial

There's a small piece of SBA debentures and borrowings. That's just ordinary course. Those are 10 year debentures. You know, upon maturity, we usually get another commitment and take down another debenture to take off to repay the maturing ones.

Mike Grondahl
Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst, Northland Securities

Got it. Okay. Hey, thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our time allowed for questions. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Murstein for any final comments.

Andrew Murstein
President and COO, Medallion Financial

Thank you again for joining us on our earnings call. As always, if you have any questions, please feel free to contact our Investor Relations team. The contact info is on the last page of our earnings supplement, as well as the IR section of our website. Thank you again, and have a great rest of your day.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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