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Earnings Call: Q1 2013

Dec 20, 2012

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Sean, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Micron Technology's first quarter 2013 financial release conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. If you would like to ask a question during this time, please press star then the number one key on your touchtone telephone. If you would like to withdraw your question, press the pound key. Thank you. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Kipp Bedard. Sir, you may begin your conference.

Kipp A. Bedard
VP of Investor Relations, Micron Technology

Thank you very much. Welcome everyone to Micron Technology's first-quarter 2013 financial release conference call. On the call today, of course, is Mark Durcan, CEO and Director, Mark Adams, President, and Ron Foster, Chief Financial Officer and Vice President of Finance. This conference call, including audio and slides, is also available on our website at micron.com. If you have not had an opportunity to review the first-quarter 2013 financial press release, it is also available, again, on our website at micron.com. Our call will be approximately 60 minutes in length. There will be an audio replay of the call. You may access that by dialing 404-537-3406 with a confirmation code of 79770323. This replay will run through Thursday, December 27th, 2010, at 5:30 P.M. Mountain Time. A webcast replay will be available on the company's website until December 2013.

We encourage you to monitor our website at micron.com throughout the quarter for the most current information on the company, including information on the various financial conferences that we will be attending. Please note the following safe harbor statement.

Speaker 19

During the course of this meeting, we may make projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events or the future financial performance of the company and the industry. We wish to caution you that such statements are predictions and that actual events or results may differ materially. We refer you to the documents the company files on a consolidated basis from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission, specifically the company's most recent Form 10-K and Form 10-Q. These documents contain and identify important factors that could cause the actual results for the company, on a consolidated basis, to differ materially from those contained in our projections or forward-looking statements. These certain factors can be found in the investor relations section of Micron's website. Although we believe that the expectations reflected in the forward-looking statements are reasonable, we cannot guarantee future results, levels of activity, performance, or achievements.

We are under no duty to update any of the forward-looking statements after the date of the presentation to conform these statements to actual results.

Kipp A. Bedard
VP of Investor Relations, Micron Technology

Now I'll turn the call over to Mr. Mark Durcan. Mark?

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

Thanks, Kipp. I'd like to start today with an overview of the key developments during the quarter, followed by a few strategic and industry updates. I'll turn it over to Ron for a financial summary, and we'll close with Mark Adams discussing key developments in our business unit operations as well as an update on market conditions. Our first fiscal quarter was a tumultuous one as we dealt with shifting market demand and internal operations disruptions. Mark will discuss some of the market shifts in more detail later, but at a high level, we continue to see significant growth and opportunity in the products supporting mobile platforms and embedded applications, including, of course, SSDs, in a more muted environment in personal systems. Our sales volume for both NAND and DRAM was below our initial forecast for the quarter as we experienced some manufacturing and supply chain challenges.

We are confident these issues have been addressed and will not negatively impact fiscal Q2. As you have noted in the release, revenue for the quarter was down about 7% as a result of a 9% decline in DRAM sales and a 4% decline in NAND. Despite generally declining ASPs, gross margins were up slightly quarter-over-quarter, with improvements in NAND and NOR partially offset by reductions in DRAM. NAND market prices were up early in the period and trended downwards towards the end of the quarter. Recently, prices seem to have stabilized. You may recall that our estimated quarter-to-date ASP, including the forecasted mix for the quarter, was down mid-teens as of our last earnings call. Prices did stabilize and, in some cases, improved later in the quarter, and this trend has continued into the current quarter.

Operator

It will continue to be important to contemplate the effects of Micron's specific product mix as it relates to Micron's ASPs as we move through the year. During the quarter, we continued our efforts to streamline the business and focus our team on actions and investments that will either improve our efficiency and cost structure or our ability to deliver leading-edge innovative memory solutions. To this end, we have discontinued most activity under our solid-state lighting program and are moving this program toward a technology licensing model. We continue to look at ways to streamline all our manufacturing operations, including our eight-inch front-end capacity and our back-end operations, particularly as necessary to accommodate any future front-end capacity. As we mentioned at our fall analyst day, we remain in discussions with our partners in Taiwan regarding changes to our agreements, including those related to Inotera Supply and our joint development relationship.

Although there's no assurance when or if a deal will happen, we don't currently believe the outcome will significantly impact our Q2 guidance for bit growth, estimated quarter-to-date ASP, which includes forecasted mix for the quarter, or R&D spending. Until we finalize terms of any changes to our agreements, I'm not able to add any further detail to any potential impact any new agreements may have in the future beyond those statements relative to our fiscal Q2. We are making and will continue to make the strategic choices to align our business strategy and operating model to deliver an optimum value and return for our shareholders through efficient manufacturing and value-added memory solutions. Relative to the Elpida acquisition, the Tokyo District Court has submitted Micron's proposed reorganization plan to the Elpida creditors, and they expect to complete the voting phase by the end of February.

In addition, we have entered phase 1 review in China and continue to work towards government approval of all the required countries. We expect to close sometime in the first half of 2013. In terms of the memory market, we're cautious in the short term but optimistic about the evolving industry supply-demand balance. The industry DRAM supply outlook continues to be favorable. We don't see any substantial new wafer capacity coming to the market, and the latest process technology transitions are simply going to take longer compared to previous generations. The other key variable on DRAM supply is industry capacity shifting away from PC to higher-growth categories, including mobile and server. This shift results in fewer bits produced in aggregate and should eventually result in a more favorable supply-demand balance in PC DRAM as well. The outlook is also encouraging on the NAND front.

We don't see any significant capacity additions to the market in 2013. As with DRAM, process technology migrations are getting stretched out, which has the effect of reducing supply growth compared to prior years, while demand growth remains robust, driven by SSDs, smartphones, and tablets. Our technology development and product portfolio is targeting these key segments as we head into 2013, and we are confident about our position in the market. I'll stop here and turn it over to Ron and Mark before returning for Q&A.

Ron Foster
CFO and VP of Finance, Micron Technology

Thanks, Mark. While we're rapidly approaching the end of the 2012 calendar year, Micron completed the first quarter of fiscal 2013 on November 29th. On our website, we provided a schedule, as usual, containing certain key results for the first quarter, as well as certain guidance for the second quarter. That material is also presented on a few slides that follow. The first quarter resulted with a net loss of $275 million, or $0.27 per diluted share on net sales of $1.834 billion. These results compared to the fourth quarter of the previous year of a net loss of $243 million or $0.24 per diluted share on net sales of $1.963 billion. Total sales in the first quarter were 7% lower than the previous quarter, driven primarily by declines in DRAM and NAND.

You will recall that we entered into a series of currency options to mitigate the exposure to changes in the yen-denominated purchase price of Elpida prior to the close of that acquisition. The weaker yen at the end of the first quarter relative to when we signed the sponsor agreement would have decreased the U.S. dollar equivalent purchase price if we'd closed the transaction at quarter end. The weaker yen also reduced the fair value of the options we entered into at the time of signing. The resulting mark-to-market adjustment of the options resulted in a $62 million loss in the first quarter. Approximately $9 million of this loss was the reversal of a gain recognized in the previous quarter as a result of a strengthening yen across that period.

During the first quarter, with the termination of Transform Solar's operations, the fab facility previously leased to Transform reverted back to Micron. A $25 million gain was recognized in other operating income associated with the release from that lease obligation. The $54 million net interest expense includes $29 million of non-cash interest expense from imputed interest on the bifurcated convertible notes that we have outstanding. Trade NAND bit sales in the first quarter decreased compared to the prior fourth quarter. As Mark indicated, we experienced some manufacturing challenges in the quarter, which reduced output in Q1. Trade NAND Average Selling Prices increased approximately 8% comparing the first quarter to the previous quarter, as we continue to sell more NAND into premium segments with higher ASPs, such as SSD and MCPs.

Estimated trade NAND selling prices are down high single digits quarter to date, including the forecasted product mix for the quarter. Trade NAND cost per bit is expected to be down high single digits in the second quarter, while trade NAND bit production is planned to be up low teens in the second quarter as our 20-nanometer wafer output doubles compared to Q1. DRAM revenue in the first quarter decreased 9% compared to the previous quarter, primarily as a result of an 11% decrease in DRAM Average Selling Prices, stemming primarily from weaker PC segment demand relative to the fourth quarter. Quarter-to-date selling prices, including projected mix impact for the quarter, are down double digits compared to the Q1 average. We anticipate the Q2 mix will be somewhat heavier to personal systems.

DRAM cost per bit declined approximately 5% quarter-to-quarter, and we are forecasting bit costs for DRAM in the second quarter to be down low double digits as we continue the transition to our 4-gig DDR3 product set, which comprised approximately one-third of the DRAM bit sales in the first quarter. Bit production in the second quarter is expected to be up double digits compared to the first quarter. NOR sales were relatively flat in the first quarter compared to the fourth quarter and remained at approximately 12% of total revenue. NOR revenue in the second quarter is expected to decrease seasonally, approximately 10%, compared to the first quarter. We anticipate NOR cost reductions to offset selling price reductions in the second quarter. SG&A expense in the first quarter was below our guided range as a result of lower costs associated with pending legal matters Variable pay plans.

During the first quarter, certain variable pay plans were suspended, resulting in cost reductions across our global operations. We expect SG&A expense in the second quarter to be between $135 million and $145 million. R&D expense was $224 million in the first quarter, and is expected to be between $220 million and $230 million in the second quarter. The company generated $236 million in cash flow from operating activities in the first quarter. First quarter ended with cash and investments, including non-current investments of just over $2.8 billion. Expenditures for property, plant, and equipment in the first quarter were $538 million, and we still expect total expenditures for the fiscal year to be between $1.6 billion and $1.9 billion, slightly weighted towards the earlier part of the fiscal year. I'll turn it over to Mark Adams for his comments. Mark?

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Thanks, Ron. Our NAND Solutions Group revenue declined slightly from the fourth quarter. The slight improvement in operating margin for NSG was primarily due to reduced cost in the first quarter associated with the ramp-up products on our 20-nanometer process, and improved product mix. Our trade NAND pricing was up 8% for the quarter. NAND has historically been somewhat seasonal, we will be watching post-holiday demand signals closely. We continue to be pleased with our solid-state drive business, as bit shipments were up about 20% quarter-on-quarter. In Q1, SSDs represented 17% of our trade NAND business. If you include NAND component sales to SSD providers, about 35% of our trade NAND bits go into solid-state drives. Our development of enterprise-class SSDs is progressing well.

We completed the qualification with a leading enterprise networking customer of our P400e drive, with volume shipments scheduled in the first quarter of the calendar year 2013. We're also nearing qualification of our next-generation enterprise SATA drive with major server and storage OEM customers, and look for shipments in calendar year 2013 as well. Our SLC-based PCIe P320h enterprise high-performance storage drive continues to receive positive reviews from both the press and our top customers. On the NAND technology front, we are making steady technical advancements with both our planar and 3D NAND technologies. We began sampling our 20-nanometer TLC NAND flash with selected controller companies, and will begin production in calendar Q1. We saw a slowdown in our 20-nanometer ramp related to the manufacturing issues described earlier, but we still expect production crossover in three to six months.

MLC represented about 80%-85% of our wafer production in Q1, with SLC and TLC essentially splitting the remainder. Sales for our DRAM Solutions Group in the first quarter reflects slight growth in bit sales volumes, eclipsed by declines in selling prices, particularly in the personal systems segment. Despite the lower revenue in the quarter, our operating income line was roughly flat due to lower R&D costs for product qualifications as certain products reached production status in the fourth quarter and are now ramping. While we look for demand drivers such as ultra-thin and light notebooks and Windows 8 to stimulate demand in the desktop notebook segment, we continue our focus on specialty markets such as server, networking, graphics, and consumer devices. The networking segment represents about 25% of our DSG revenue.

We had another strong quarter and made progress to expand beyond the traditional large OEM businesses to smaller customers and distributors in the sale of our networking portfolio. A growing portion of the market is shifting from DDR2 to DDR3-based systems, and we also continue to see early traction for our RLDRAM 3 and Hybrid Memory Cube. We continue to see very strong demand signals from our server customers. 2013 server bit growth year-on-year is forecasted to grow over 40%, and we remain confident we will drive growth in the category. From a product perspective, we added a major new technology to our portfolio with non-volatile DIMM targeting mission-critical in-memory database applications. Overall, we are positioned well for long-term success in the server segment. On the DRAM operations front, we project to hit bit crossover on 30 nanometer in Q2.

We are conscious that as an industry, there are increasing shrink challenges to ramp 20 and 30-nanometer nodes, as seen as well by our competitors. We are currently forecasting Micron's 20-nanometer transition late in calendar year 2013. PCOEM DRAM pricing stabilized in the second half of our Q1 and is up high single to low double digits so far in December. While it is too early to signal a sustainable trend in terms of improved pricing, we will monitor the tightening supply situation in the market, as well as the seasonality effect on demand. Channel inventories seem to have returned to normalized level of 3-4 weeks, down from where we entered the quarter. Sales by the Wireless Solutions Group improved seasonality in the first quarter.

New configurations of NAND DRAM Multi-Chip Packages showed strength in the China mobile market, while new DRAM product introductions began to ramp as well. We would continue to be challenged on the bottom line for WSG. We remain bullish about our long-term opportunities in wireless. Mobile DRAM shipments increased significantly as we are leveraging the ramp of our 30 nanometer base, 4 gigabit LPDDR2 device in both the entry-level and high-end smartphone category. We also had strong growth in NAND shipments, most noticeably in the low-end smartphone market, which is seeing a transition from standalone NAND to EMCP-based solutions with eMMC NAND combined with low-power DRAM. Wireless NOR shipments grew double digits and gross margins were up nicely in the quarter as a result of cost improvements.

Our broad product portfolio combining DRAM, NAND, and NOR puts us in a great position to capture a larger share of the wireless market as we move forward, with a focus on growth in DRAM and NAND in particular. The addition of Elpida's mobile DRAM portfolio will only accelerate this effort. Our Embedded Solutions Group had a record quarter in terms of gross profit and operating income, driven by the ramp of 45-nanometer parallel NOR and continued strength in the automotive and industrial segments. We delivered the first customer samples of 45-nanometer serial NOR and began engineering wafers for 300-millimeter embedded NOR products. One of the particular areas of strength has been the growth of our embedded eMMC product portfolio. We ran volume production of automotive products and expanded densities offerings of the industrial lineup.

We continue to invest in infrastructure and headcount resources to accelerate our embedded growth. In the past year, we opened up engineering systems labs in Munich and Shanghai for joint development and validation, continuing our focus on providing customer-centric solutions, in many cases, sitting right next to customer design teams. We have advanced our NOR technology leadership with our 45-nanometer, 300-millimeter production, we'll continue to leverage this position to generate profitable growth. Pricing in the embedded space remains stable, we were able to drive our cost leadership position to improving margins. While we continue to face adverse conditions during our first quarter, we are making progress on a number of fronts. As I mentioned at our Analyst Day conference in October, we are exclusively focused on being a leader in the memory market.

Our cash position remains strong as we continue to be operating cash flow positive in Q1. Our inventory remains in check, down from $2 billion within the last nine months, we are focused on improving our cost efficiency. Our premium businesses such as specialty DRAM, SSDs, and embedded solutions continue to represent growth opportunities for Micron. Our management team continues to work on integration plans as we prepare for the close of our Elpida transaction. We remain optimistic that the reduced capital spending with no new memory fabs on the horizon will lead us to better memory supply and demand dynamics. Our customers have been extremely supportive of the acquisition and Micron's overall strategy. We believe end markets such as mobile, server, networking, enterprise, and embedded will continue to drive strong demand for our products. With that, I will hand it back over to Kip.

Kipp A. Bedard
VP of Investor Relations, Micron Technology

Thank you, Mark. What we'd like to do now is take questions from callers. Just a reminder, if you are using a speakerphone, please pick up the handset when asking a question so that we can hear you clearly.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question at this time, please press star then one on your touch-tone telephone. To remove yourself from the queue, simply press the pound key. Again, ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, simply press star one on your touch-tone keypad. Our first question comes from Kevin Cassidy with Stifel Nicolaus. Please go ahead with your question.

Kevin Cassidy
Analyst, Stifel Nicolaus

Yeah, thanks for taking my question. I wonder if you could go into a little more detail of the manufacturing problem and how comfortable you are that the problem is fixed going into the second quarter.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Yeah, Kevin, this is Mark. I don't want to get into too much detail, but I think I could characterize it as really nothing out of the ordinary in terms of the root cause. A combination of different events in front-end and back-end manufacturing, some internal, some external. I think in concert with some knock-on effects, the disruptions created in our overall supply chain really just led to an inability to get all the product out. Relative to are we convinced that the problems are behind us, absolutely, relative to those particular issues. I'm not here to promise you we'll never have a manufacturing disruption again, but I think what we encountered this quarter was really sort of a perfect storm in terms of the timing of a number of different events that cumulatively created the issue.

Kevin Cassidy
Analyst, Stifel Nicolaus

Okay, great. Maybe just to understand, too, you said in the second quarter you're expecting heavier personal systems on the DRAM side. Is that normal seasonality? It seems like that would normally be a weak quarter. Is server just that much worse?

Ron Foster
CFO and VP of Finance, Micron Technology

Kevin, this is Ron. The effect here is basically as we were looking at the quarter, we had an opportunity to pick up some additional wafers from Inotera, and our conclusion was that that would marginally improve our gross margin dollars, our gross profit dollars, if you will. We decided to take that increment, and that is incrementing our PC bits and affected our guidance.

Kevin Cassidy
Analyst, Stifel Nicolaus

Okay, it's not the end markets that are shifting at all.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

It was a mix of just the opportunities we saw in front of us and ability to pick up some wafers that added a few more dollars to cash balance.

Kevin Cassidy
Analyst, Stifel Nicolaus

Okay, thank you.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Yeah.

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

I'd like to make one announcement, too. On the guidance sheet, for those of you who are looking at it, you may have an error in the R&D column that lists R&D for the quarter was $1.8 billion. The actual numbers, as Ron reported, was $224 million. You will get a corrected version of that sent out within the minutes here, but the corrected R&D number for fiscal Q1 was $224 million. With that, we'd like to go back to questions.

Operator

Our next question comes from Monika Garg of Pacific Crest. Please go ahead with your question.

Monika Garg
Analyst, Pacific Crest Securities

Hi, thanks for taking my question. First question on the DRAM side. Mark Adams talked about PC OEM DRAM pricing stabilizing during the second half and actually up low double digit in December, but you are guiding DRAM pricing down quarter to date, low double digits. Just trying to reconcile the two.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Basically, the effect you're seeing has to do with just the overall mix and where the bits are going. The PC bits, which tend to be on the lower side of our pricing that we attain, there'll be more of those PC bits, and thus, the overall mix effect will drag that pricing downward.

Monika Garg
Analyst, Pacific Crest Securities

Okay. Thank you. Recently, we have been seeing the news in the media that Nanya may not be buying PC DRAM chips from Inotera, and you're also guiding that you are buying some of that capacity. Given that Inotera is a JV between Micron and Nanya, could this lead to increased expenses to run Inotera's operations for Micron?

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

I think we've said all we can say relative to any potential or hypothetical deal we might reach. We've told you that we are having discussions with our partners, and we've told you what we can relative to how that impacts our Q2 guidance. I think the bottom line is that the bits we are currently forecasting are what we believe will happen in Q2. Obviously, we'll do a deal if we think it makes sense for Micron.

Monika Garg
Analyst, Pacific Crest Securities

Thanks. Just a last one on the NAND side. Could you talk about NAND bit supply growth for both Micron and where do you think NAND industry bit supply growth could be for calendar 2013?

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

I could start with the industry part, then we'll let Mark jump in with the Micron part. We're looking at a calendar 2013, based on public information, of probably somewhere between 35% and 45%.

Operator

Our next question comes from Betsy Van Hees with Wedbush Securities. Please go ahead with your question.

Betsy Van Hees
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. I was wondering if we could go back to the production issues that you had. You said you had front-end and back-end. How were yields with your 20 nanometer? There were no issues there. Are things still tracking in line with your expectations?

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

Relative to 30 nanometer, generally speaking, we made fantastic progress on yields as we move through the quarter and anticipate a continued trend as we move through fiscal Q2. Relative to 20 nanometer, that's actually an insignificant piece of our output today.

Betsy Van Hees
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Okay. Can you walk us as we look at 30 nanometer to 20 nanometer transition, how that's going to look?

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

Yeah, it'll be a transition really starting late in calendar 2013, and you could expect that transition then to continue through calendar of 2014.

Betsy Van Hees
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Okay, great.

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

It's generally on track with what we were forecasting and timing in line with what we believe the rest of the industry will achieve.

Betsy Van Hees
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Then you guys mentioned that on the Wireless Solutions Group, you are challenged on the operating profit there. I was wondering if you could help us understand how things are going to get better in that marketplace when we're seeing sort of a shift to more NAND solutions versus more flash solutions.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Betsy, this is Mark Adams. Yeah, the-

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

First of all, correct me if I'm speaking-

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Yeah, sorry. The prior comments that Mark mentioned, I think-

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

Were relative to DRAM.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

I think we're relative to DRAM. Is that what you were asking, Betsy, around the DRAM? 20 nanometer.

Betsy Van Hees
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Well, yeah, I was also asking about the Wireless Solutions Group.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Okay.

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

Okay.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Good. Just on the Wireless Solutions side, there's a couple of factors that are playing into the opportunity for us. One is the, as I mentioned in my earlier comments, our 30 nanometer LPDDR3 4 gigabit part has put us in a very competitive position today, and that is ramping and in volume, we can go out and expand our offering there. Secondly, the maturity of our eMMC product portfolio is opening doors for new sockets as well there. Between the combination of those two, not only do we get back in the game from a cost perspective, but we have a broader product portfolio to bring to market and actually deliver on.

Betsy Van Hees
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Ron, my last question, I apologize if you mentioned this, but when we're looking at the estimates for SG&A, I see it's going up to $135 million-$145 million. Is that just FICA and things like that that's causing your SG&A to go up?

Ron Foster
CFO and VP of Finance, Micron Technology

A couple of things. One is that we're getting back to normal trend line, if you look at our history in terms of SG&A. We had lower legal expenses in the first quarter. Also, we've got some integration costs as we're looking forward to the acquisition that we've got in that estimate as well.

Betsy Van Hees
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Okay. Thanks so much.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Yep.

Betsy Van Hees
Analyst, Wedbush Securities

Happy holidays, everybody.

Ron Foster
CFO and VP of Finance, Micron Technology

Same to you.

Thanks, Betsy.

Operator

Our next question comes from Stephen Chen of UBS. Please go ahead with your question.

Stephen Chin
Analyst, UBS

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. A couple questions on the inventory front. I heard the comments on DRAM channel inventory looking better. With the anticipated increased sales of PC DRAM for fiscal Q2, do you think that channel inventory will increase again in the current quarter or do you think there's enough sell-through of bits that will stay under control?

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

What we do think, though, those are bits that would normally go to the PC market indirectly or directly, so we think it's net neutral.

Stephen Chin
Analyst, UBS

Okay. On the NAND side, just given that about this time last year, I think your solid-state drive business also saw some inventory buildup. What kind of trends are you seeing there right now in terms of-

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

I think if we go back a year ago, we were coming out of an artificially higher demand curve due to the hard drive situation in Thailand prior to the holidays. I think that effect's gone, and we're pretty bullish. We're trying to grow our SSD business, and the demand signals from our customers are in parallel align with that. We were pretty bullish going into our second quarter on SSDs.

Stephen Chin
Analyst, UBS

Got it. Just last question is, in terms of the manufacturing issues in Q1 and how that may have impacted your ability to ship product, was there any business that was left on the table in Q1 that you'll be able to make up in Q2? Thanks.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

There's a very small amount of growth in bit inventory that was offset with cost of goods reduction. When you look at inventory numbers, they're relatively flat. Some of that will come through, but it's not significant relative to the overall quarter.

Stephen Chin
Analyst, UBS

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from James Schneider of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead with your question.

James Schneider
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. I was wondering if you could comment a little bit more on the move in DRAM spot pricing we've seen. In your view, is that purely due to some of your competitors taking PC DRAM supply offline? Then, what kind of impact have you seen in your specialty DRAM businesses on the server and mobile side? Is some of that capacity moving over to those places, which is causing the pricing pressure, or have you seen a stabilization there?

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Overall, I think that the PC DRAM pricing has to do with the overall supply picture in the overall industry when you look at the market. I think that the supply side, and we referenced what's out in the public on production and investment in capacity and technology transitions. We think that it's been relatively conservative in terms of overall supply growth. The PC number, we think is just a natural evolution of the last 12 to 18 months of that behavior. I think your follow-on comment is, do some of those bits make it into our specialty businesses? While we can't predict that that won't happen in the future, we haven't seen it as much because it's not as a matter of just redirecting that capacity.

There are technical specifications that go along with it, along whether it be performance or temperature requirements and those types of things, that capacity doesn't automatically become perishable or transferable, if you will, to other segments. We haven't seen tremendous pressure. Now, having said that, I'll make one qualification to that. We have seen a newer segment in servers come up, that it's a little bit more of a commoditized server for the data center application, the cloud data center application, where it's been more of a higher unit, but more of a industry-standard architecture that doesn't have those specifications. We view that as net-net positive because those bits are better than the PC bits, and they're additive to our core server business.

James Schneider
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thanks. That's helpful. Maybe as a follow-on, any update for us on how you see the DRAM industry bit supply in calendar 2013?

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Yeah, right now it shapes up to be somewhere, Jim, between 20% and 30%.

James Schneider
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. That's helpful. Finally for me, on the Wireless group operating profit, can you comment on maybe the difference between the reported operating profit and the actual cash flow out of that group? Maybe highlight any actions you might take to improve that profitability level going forward.

Ron Foster
CFO and VP of Finance, Micron Technology

James, this is Ron. When you look at cash flow of the Wireless Group versus the reported result, the main difference is depreciation and amortization, which affects all of our main business units, if that's the question you're asking. It's a contributor to the operating cash flow based upon the depreciation component and its COGS. I'm not sure if that's the question you're asking, though.

James Schneider
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Yeah, I was just wondering if there's any acquisition-related one-timers that would be above and beyond the pure equipment depreciation effect.

Ron Foster
CFO and VP of Finance, Micron Technology

No. Not material.

Operator

David Wong of Wells Fargo, please go ahead with your question.

David Wong
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Thank you. Could you remind us, if the Elpida deal closes on the terms you expect and the timeframe you expect, what your cash requirements might be to support this transaction? Given the current revenue and income statement dynamics, will you need to raise any extra cash, or do you have what you need on the balance sheet at the moment?

Ron Foster
CFO and VP of Finance, Micron Technology

In terms of the actual purchase price at close, it's about $750 million in cash that we have to come up with. You can see the cash balance on our financial statement. We're obviously opportunistically looking at financing situations. The market is pretty good right now, as we've said before, we tend to look at ones that are covenant free and focus more on capital leases, which is a normal course of business kind of activity, as our primary focus. We'll continue to look at opportunities, also to spread our debt exposure over time, our repayment schedule as well. It's opportunistic based upon market availability.

David Wong
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay, great. My other question is, you were saying that you expect your DRAM mix to be somewhat heavier towards personal systems. Are you seeing a pickup in demand on personal systems? I assume you mean PCs by that, or is there some other dynamic that pushes down your demand for your specialty DRAM?

Ron Foster
CFO and VP of Finance, Micron Technology

Yeah. The comment was in terms of additional DRAM bits related to the fact that we actually have more availability of bit supply, we have more to move into the market. It's not a demand-driven factor. It's basically supply we have available.

David Wong
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay. Great. Thanks so much.

Ron Foster
CFO and VP of Finance, Micron Technology

Yep.

Operator

Our next question comes from Ryan Goodman of CLSA. Please go ahead with your question.

Ryan Goodman
Analyst, CLSA

Hey, thanks for taking my questions. A bit of a follow-up to that last one on the decision to take some of those additional wafers out of Elpida and go into the PC market. How do you balance the risk of potential impact to pricing versus the opportunities there? Maybe you could talk about some of the opportunities you see by geography or by segment within the market that help lead to that decision.

Ron Foster
CFO and VP of Finance, Micron Technology

This is Ron. I'll take the first part, maybe Mark or Mark wants to comment on sort of market opportunities. This is a short-term kind of thing that happens periodically. It just happened to be a little bit larger this quarter, where there are available wafers from Inotera, and we have an election to actually pick them up or not pick them up. It's a straightforward economic analysis based upon current market conditions and known potential we have with our market pricing and contractual arrangements with our customers. We make the decision based on a cash evaluation, and we made a decision to take some in this case.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

In addition to that, the comments made in our opening discussion around PC OEM pricing, I think the market and the supply base reflects an adjustment of what CT capacity looks like. While the overall PC segment doesn't look like a significant growth category, if it's flat, the supply base to that has already kind of contemplated that, and we believe that the supply and demand curve is in better shape, as reflected by the OEM contract price increases in December.

Ryan Goodman
Analyst, CLSA

Okay, great. Thank you. Then just another question, this one on the NAND side of things, specifically on client SSDs. I know one of your competitors appears to be making a stronger push into 3-bit lately and even has a 3-bit SSD out there, at the same time, we're seeing another competitor kind of moving the opposite direction, pushing a little more 2-bit and going more into smartphones and 2-bit SSDs. I'm curious, I know in a recent conference, you had mentioned the possibility of a 3-bit SSD, maybe you could just provide some color on the strategy there going forward.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Sure. A lot of it depends on the customer and the application you're selling to. We see over time, the client SSD business as it continues to scale and its growth is encouraging. We see kind of a value of different product offerings within client. When you're selling to a major OEM customer, a 3-bit solution won't quite do it. If you're selling to a white box emerging market segment that might accept lower than that type of performance, you might be able to get there. The other side is the maturity of controller development, being able to handle 3-bit will continue to improve. So do we think in the future that 3-bit per cell SSDs will be viable? Yes. Do we think the market is there today? Probably not, and that's why we continue to focus on high-performance client SSD drives.

Ryan Goodman
Analyst, CLSA

Okay, great. Just one quick follow-up, too, on the manufacturing issues. Did that only affect NAND volume, or was there an impact to DRAM volume as well?

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

It hit both sides.

Ryan Goodman
Analyst, CLSA

Okay, great. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Our next question comes from Daniel Amir with Lazard Capital. Please go ahead with your question.

Daniel Amir
Analyst, Lazard Capital Markets

Thanks a lot. A couple questions here. First of all, as we look at your product mix in both DRAM and NAND, that's been changing here in the past few quarters. How should we be looking at that in this fiscal year 2013? Should we see your SSD bits growing to potentially 50% of your total NAND, or is it kind of mid-30s right now? Is that where it should stand? The same question, relative to specialty DRAM and PC DRAM.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

I think it's fair to say we don't think 30% is the ceiling on SSD bits, both part of our portfolio and our SSD pure-play customers. I don't think we're satisfied, nor do we think that's the top. We think there's more opportunity. In fact, that's where we're driving a lot of our go-to-market and development resources. In terms of trying to pin down for you what percent of our business is going to be NAND and DRAM, we're going to try and keep that to ourselves for now.

Daniel Amir
Analyst, Lazard Capital Markets

In terms of your wireless side, you focused a lot on your Analyst Day and since then as well, on focusing on finding ways to penetrate more of the handset market. What can you give us in terms of updates, in terms of your product portfolio, and your traction that you're getting as you turn around this wireless segment in terms of getting more content in the smartphone space?

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Well, I think I'll kind of revert back to my earlier comments. We were out of two key portions of the business as far as growth opportunities within wireless. One being low-power DRAM solutions, which hit us both on the standalone sale of that product as well as the MCP, as well as our eMMC offering, both those product development efforts have progressed really well. We haven't lacked access to the market. I think what we looked at, in one case, a cost position, which we weren't driving too hard to sell that volume in that space, and another capability that our eMMC offering wasn't as mature as all of our customers would've liked it. We can say today that we have confidence that our products are competitive and able to gain that share of market that we want.

Daniel Amir
Analyst, Lazard Capital Markets

Just final question on your NOR business. There's been some news lately that your plans for the fab in Israel, what can you update us on the strategy of your NOR business in terms of the roadmap here?

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Well, I think that, again, we mentioned a little bit earlier, we continue to invest in NOR from a technology perspective. We are a leader right now with our 45 nanometer, 300 millimeter product, which gives us a pretty good cost advantage in that business. It showed up in the embedded space, and to some extent, it will help us also enable us in the lower-end wireless sockets. You made reference to manufacturing rumors that are in the press and so on and so forth. What I would say to that is that we still remain very committed to NOR. It's a good part of our business, an enabling technology for us, both embedded and wireless, and some other segments as well, including PC BIOS applications and consumer applications.

Daniel Amir
Analyst, Lazard Capital Markets

Okay, thanks a lot.

Operator

Our next question comes from Glen Yeung of Citigroup. Please go ahead with your question.

Glen Yeung
Analyst, Citigroup

Thank you. Do you guys have a forecast for us what CapEx could be next quarter?

Ron Foster
CFO and VP of Finance, Micron Technology

This is Ron. As I mentioned, we're still projecting $1.6 billion-$1.9 billion for the year. We had about $538 million in the first quarter, and we said we're going to be loaded a little bit heavier to the first half. It's tough for us to get too specific, Glen, because exact timing on acceptance of tools can move, and that can swing that number pretty dramatically quarter-to-quarter, even though the same trend line is in place. Yeah, that's right.

Glen Yeung
Analyst, Citigroup

Fair enough. Just with respect to that, the difference between the 1.6 and the 1.9, if maybe you could just remind us what would lead you to one end or the other end of that range?

Ron Foster
CFO and VP of Finance, Micron Technology

Well, it's a number of variables. One of them is just be timing, as Mark mentioned at year-end, right? As how things play through. It's hard for us to call it much closer than that as we go in the first part of a year. Of course, we're always adjusting our proposed product mix and our spend associated with that as we see market conditions evolve.

Glen Yeung
Analyst, Citigroup

Understood. I think in the NAND commentary, it was mentioned that you're watching holiday demand signals to sort of give a sense as to how you think NAND will progress from here. I know it's a little early for that, but maybe just your initial thoughts on how you see demand trends at the moment from demand perspective.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Well, I think quarter to date, we feel things are pretty stable, but it's not unusual for some softness just out of the holiday period, especially given some of the consumer product-driven platforms that NAND consumes or is consuming NAND. It was only a hedge that we'd like to just kind of follow that and track that to make sure that NAND keeps at the current pace.

Glen Yeung
Analyst, Citigroup

Fair enough. Just the last one, just to

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

I would add, I'd go a little bit on that. I'd say

Glen Yeung
Analyst, Citigroup

speak with you about

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Sorry, Glen, I'd go a little bit on that. I'd say that generally, we're relatively optimistic about the future demand for NAND. We see a lot of growth in end applications that are consuming NAND, including the SSDs that have been alluded to a couple of times already here today. What we don't know about is what the macroeconomic environment going to look like. We're kind of like everyone else here, waiting to find out how that plays out.

Glen Yeung
Analyst, Citigroup

It's tough when it's going on the first time. Just last one. I understand why more PC DRAM, it's more of a supply issue on your part. Just to be clear about what your visibility is on demand from server, just is that business looking as you expect it to look, any better, any worse?

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

I think we're pretty happy with servers, and line of sight is that it looks pretty stable and growth-oriented on the bit side for sure, and the units are tracking pretty well. Overall, very favorable.

Glen Yeung
Analyst, Citigroup

All right. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Question comes from Steven Fox of Cross Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Steven Fox
Analyst, Cross Research

Thanks. Good afternoon. First, just a question on the SSD market, your own sales of SSDs and cache, if you want to throw that in there. You obviously have a lot of momentum there exiting the quarter. On the client and enterprise side, are you looking for some seasonality in Q1, especially on enterprise, ahead of some of your new qualifications? Within that, over the next couple quarters, are there any competitive dynamics we should keep in mind relative to especially the enterprise side that may be helping or hurting you guys? I had a quick follow-up.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

I think I mentioned some of our qualification success in my comments, and as an indication that we think our enterprise business will grow. Your reference to seasonality, I wasn't quite clear what you were asking, but given the earlier stage of enterprise versus the overall SSD business, we think that that is growth-oriented, and we think our business will continue to grow.

Steven Fox
Analyst, Cross Research

Well, I guess I was referring to client demand for SSDs in the first quarter, or first calendar quarter, actually.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Even that category, we think is still pretty high demand. We think it's up into the right now, given the lower penetration of client SSDs, even in Q1.

Steven Fox
Analyst, Cross Research

Competitively, do you feel like there's anything going on where you're taking more of an advantage, whether it's channel near term or product category, that we should be thinking of?

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Well, I think I'll break it out into two pieces. On the client side, there certainly have been some client players who've had some financial challenges that might impact our ability to actually go out and capture more share. Overall, we like our position in client and think it's very strong. On the enterprise side, it's a little bit more of a design win engagement model. When you pick up something, it tends to be pretty large volumes as your customer rolls it out. The only thing I would say is that we're pretty pleased, our NAND team's pretty pleased with the PCIe products that we've come to market with, and that seems to be a high-growth category, even within enterprise. We're pretty bullish on both segments.

One's more of a competitive ability to go out and deliver volume on the client side and some of the differentiated products in our enterprise solution.

Steven Fox
Analyst, Cross Research

Thanks. Just really quickly, I apologize if I missed this, but in terms of the pricing you're talking about on the NAND side, there were no mix issues that are affecting either the outlook or what we saw in the quarter? I might not be clear on that one.

Kipp A. Bedard
VP of Investor Relations, Micron Technology

No, we would guide you to think that there are always mix issues going on. For example, as Mark just described, we think SSD probably grows for us next quarter. That's an uplift, for example, over some markets. Every quarter, we're dealing with mix-related product movements both in DRAM and NAND.

Steven Fox
Analyst, Cross Research

Okay.

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

If you look at the guidance we gave you in terms of forward NAND pricing for the second quarter, I would say a significant chunk of that is we're looking at mix, mainly higher density products going into the channel, for example, and more of our 20 nanometer business related to that higher density. It is significantly mix affected.

Steven Fox
Analyst, Cross Research

Great. That's very helpful. Thanks again.

Kipp A. Bedard
VP of Investor Relations, Micron Technology

Note the cost per bit is going down correspondingly.

Steven Fox
Analyst, Cross Research

Yes. Thanks.

Kipp A. Bedard
VP of Investor Relations, Micron Technology

Yep.

Operator

Our next question comes from Alex Gauna with JMP Securities. Please go ahead with your question.

Alex J. Gauna
Analyst, JMP Securities

Good afternoon, everybody. Thanks for taking my question. I was wondering, you've talked a lot about the server market here, and I understand how your bit growth might be strong given some of the moves in servers, but there's been a lot of mixed indications in terms of infrastructure, data center demand. Can you maybe help us parse what's happening for you in terms of bit density growth and maybe what you think the underlying growth rate of that market is right now and how that trends in Q1?

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

Alex, I think that the bit growth, we've been pretty constant. We still think that's a pretty good growth platform for us in servers. When you look at overall server unit growth, it's still mid to high single digits. When you look at the bit growth, I think we're somewhere around 45% or 50% bit growth year-on-year in servers. I think the dynamic I was alluding to earlier is you've got your traditional server players in those type of enterprise applications, and then you've got this cloud data center model, where there are people who are actually building out these networks that are actually rolling their own servers or going through ODM models.

Their product requirements, because of the way the networks are structured, and the requirements of the server aren't the same, there's this subsegment of server growth that is a little bit more commoditized.

Alex J. Gauna
Analyst, JMP Securities

Okay, that's very helpful. Thank you. I was wondering if I could ask a similar question with regard to PCs right now. With all the transitions towards convertibles and tablets, can you give us a sense of maybe what average density per PC is doing right now, and then your assumptions on how some of these moves to more Atom-based systems or tablet systems might affect DRAM growth in the PC segment going forward in 2013?

Kipp A. Bedard
VP of Investor Relations, Micron Technology

Sure, I'll take the first part of that, and maybe Mark and Mark can jump on impacts of architecture. Basically, in 2012 over 2011, we're going to see PC notebook growth rates around 20%, and flat to down units, depending on which third party you're looking at. Next year, third party data suggests units up probably 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, with bit growth somewhere in the 10% to maybe 12% to 14% range. Obviously, some of that dependent on ASP. I don't know if Mark or Mark, would you guys like to talk a little bit how architectures might change content growth?

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

In one sense, depending on the architecture and the operating system efficiency, that can certainly have a swing factor one way or the other, meaning that the density could go down or up depending on the application focus and the usage model. The other side of that is when you get to these type of designs, they tend to be more customized and less commoditized, they end up being kind of customer design wins, which can protect us from a little bit of the commodity nature.

Alex J. Gauna
Analyst, JMP Securities

Okay. One last one, if I could. Your CapEx guidance for next year, I'm assuming that does not include Elpida demands. Can you maybe bound what you might need to put on top of that in order to keep Elpida current, and then how those assets might even help you going forward in terms of maybe bringing down CapEx spend?

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

Alex, we have not released those numbers yet. We will update you when we can.

Alex J. Gauna
Analyst, JMP Securities

Okay, thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Shawn Webster of Macquarie. Please go ahead with your question.

Shawn Webster
Analyst, Macquarie

Yeah, thanks a lot. Going back to the supply chain disruption, the explanation was a little bit vague. Are you able to parse it out between, was it a supplier of components or other materials, or was there a problem in your own factories or something further down the food chain?

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

Yeah. I don't want to get too specific, Shawn, but there were a number of separate events, which accumulated to give us the net effect we had. Some were internal, some were at sub cons in the back end.

Shawn Webster
Analyst, Macquarie

Okay. Then on the pricing guidance down for the current quarter, if we exclude mix or assume stable mix, is pricing still down?

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

Well, first of all, Shawn, you're going to have to be more specific about what designs. If you look at the spot market, I think Mark covered this in his comments, pricing generally from the end of our quarter to today is up on a line item by line item basis.

Shawn Webster
Analyst, Macquarie

Okay. On the Nanya restructuring that's still under negotiations, I understand you don't want to talk a lot about the details yet, can you tell us what their contribution to your R&D has been the last couple of quarters, say?

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

It's roughly $20 million-$25 million.

Shawn Webster
Analyst, Macquarie

Okay. I guess, finally, are you getting any feedback from your PC OEM customers in terms of overall demand outlook for PCs, either in Q1 or Q2, or what catalyst could be if Service Pack 1 will be a catalyst, maybe what their overall views on PC growth is next year?

Mark Adams
President, Micron Technology

I think their PC growth projection's in line with what Kipp alluded to earlier. I think in the traditional desktop notebook segment, I think they view the PC growth to be flat, ±1% or 2%. Again, I think the market suggested that. That's already in the market, both on the PC OEM inventory side as well as the supply side.

Shawn Webster
Analyst, Macquarie

Okay, thank you very much.

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

I think we have time for one more question.

Operator

Our question comes from Harlan Sur of JPMorgan. Please go ahead with your question.

Harlan Sur
Analyst, JPMorgan

Great. Thanks for taking my question. On the manufacturing issues impacting your NAND business in Q1, I know you can't go into a whole lot of detail, my question is, did these disruptions result in wafer scrappage, or was it just a slowdown in output relative to your prior expectations?

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

It's a combination of those.

Harlan Sur
Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay. It also seems like, you may have answered this question, it also seems like you pushed out bit production costs over for your 30 nanometer DRAM ramp by about a quarter. I guess, were you also seeing the same manufacturing challenges as you ramped this process, or were these a different set of issues relative to your NAND technology? Any color there would be great.

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

Yeah. We had impacts on DRAM and NAND. I would say that our 30 nanometer technology trajectory and ramp has actually seen dramatic improvements as we move through the quarter. While there was impact on the DRAM side relative to 30 nanometer output, it was not related to overall the technology ramp. We're very pleased with the way that is going.

Harlan Sur
Analyst, JPMorgan

Great. Thank you.

Mark Durcan
CEO, Micron Technology

All right. We'd like to thank everyone for participating on the call today. If you will please bear with me, I need to repeat the safe harbor protection language. During the course of this call, we may have made forward-looking statements regarding the company and the industry. These particular forward-looking statements and all other statements that may have been made on the call that are not historical facts are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially. For information on the important factors that may cause actual results to differ materially, please refer to our filings with the SEC, including the company's most recent 10-Q and 10-K.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's Micron Technology first quarter 2013 financial release conference call. You may now disconnect.