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Earnings Call: Q1 2026

Apr 22, 2026

Operator

Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Evan New. Please go ahead.

Evan New
Director of Investor Relations, Preferred Bank

Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss Preferred Bank's financial results for the first quarter ended March 31st, 2026. With me today from management are Chairman and CEO Li Yu, President and Chief Operating Officer Wellington Chen, Chief Financial Officer Edward Czajka, and Deputy Chief Operating Officer Johnny Hsu. Management will provide a brief summary of the results, and then we will open up the call to your questions. During the course of this conference call, statements made by management may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements are based on specific assumptions that may or may not prove correct.

Forward-looking statements are also subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors relating to Preferred Bank's operations and business environment, all of which are difficult to predict and many of which are beyond the control of Preferred Bank. For a detailed description of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to the SEC required documents the bank files with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation or FDIC. If any of these uncertainties materialize or any of these assumptions prove incorrect, Preferred Bank's results could differ materially from its expectations as set forth in these statements. Preferred Bank assumes no obligation to update such forward-looking statements. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. Li Yu. Please go ahead.

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Thank you very much. I'm very pleased to report the first quarter net income of $31.3 million or $2.53 a share. This quarter's net income was negatively impacted by the placement of a large relationship onto the non-performing status. If you recall, probably February and March, we have issued a press release informing all of you that we have placed a nine-loan relationship on a non-accrual basis. This relationship consists of two C&I loans of a small $2 million, and the rest are all in commercial real estate loans in the total amount of only $77 million on the non-accrual basis. Shortly after the announcement, we're able to sell one loan at par of $9.4 million. On April the 1st, we have sold another two loans at par for $48.5 million.

As of today, we have effectively reduced the relationship by roughly 50%, and we continue our progress in the second quarter and in the third quarter. Hopefully by that time we should have substantial resolution on this situation. Loan growth is moderate 1.1% sequentially, and deposit growth was moderate 1.2% sequentially. Market competition, especially in the pricing end of it, has been very severe. It seems to me that the war in the Middle East is trending toward a more stable basis. I hope our country can soon concentrate on our economic affairs in the ensuing months. Our net interest margin was 3.57% for this quarter, which is down from 3.74% in the previous quarter. Again, the reversal of interest income is the main reason. Since this reversal of interest income is non-recurring, we're very hopeful, especially when there seems to be no imminent rate movements.

We're very hopeful that our net interest margin will rebound in the ensuing quarters. Our operating overhead, our non-interest expense has been stable, and we'll continue to keep it on a stable basis in the future. For your information, that the bank has repurchased roughly 400,000 shares of our own common stock for the total consideration of roughly $89-$90 a share. Thank you very much. I'm ready for your questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, please press star then one on your touch-tone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question will come from Matthew Clark with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Hey, good morning, everyone.

Edward Czajka
CFO, Preferred Bank

Hi.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Just on the loans held for sale, the move there. I'm assuming $48.5 of that is the two loans that you sold on April 1st at par. Just want to confirm that and also what else is in there.

Edward Czajka
CFO, Preferred Bank

Yes. You're correct. Part of that $76 million, $48.5 million, is the two notes sold at par on April 1st. There's two other notes in there that we are actively marketing at this point as well to sell the notes. That's why they're placed in held for sale.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. Any pricing thoughts there on the other two?

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Well, we feel that they would like to get as close to the par as possible, and we have been writing down some of the loans. Okay, so this is our goal.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Got it. Okay, great. On deposit costs, want to get a sense for where your deposit costs were, either at the end of March or in March, and your thoughts on the competition going forward. Along those lines, just remind us how much you have in CDs coming due in 2Q, and the rate it's rolling off on, and the renewal rate that you expect to come on.

Edward Czajka
CFO, Preferred Bank

Okay. Well, that's a lot of questions in one, Matthew, but I'll take a stab at it. The deposit costs are coming down, but not in the same velocity they were in Q4. That is starting to slow in terms of the lowering of deposit costs as we go forward. For your record, March deposit cost was 3.10% overall. In terms of maturities, we have $1.35 billion maturing in the quarter at a 3.89% rate. Those will likely be put on at similar rates, maybe a little bit lower, but we're getting close to the point where we're reaching stagnation in terms of the rolling off of CDs to newer, lower priced CDs.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay, great. Last one for me, just on the expense run rate going forward. How should we think about non-interest expense?

Edward Czajka
CFO, Preferred Bank

We're at roughly 23.5 for the quarter. Over $1 million of that was heightened levels of payroll tax related to bonus payout and related to stock vesting, which both occurred in the first quarter. As we go forward into Q2, I'm looking for something in the high 22s to low 23s.

Matthew Clark
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Great. Thanks again.

Edward Czajka
CFO, Preferred Bank

Mm-hmm.

Operator

The next question will come from Gary Tenner with D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Gary Tenner
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Thanks. Good morning.

Edward Czajka
CFO, Preferred Bank

Hey, Gary.

Gary Tenner
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Just wanted to ask on loan growth. The production, I think, must have been pretty decent this quarter just to have kind of the line growth of LHI and loans held for sale. Could you talk about production, competition, and pricing in terms of Bolomba?

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Well, pricing is all over the place. We're still facing a lot of people. It's pricing below 6% on a fixed rate basis. We can't afford to do that. Okay. Especially when the movement of our interest rate is unclear at this point in time. We have not been getting the rate cuts that we previously forecasted. Okay. Most people have been having, let's say, frankly speaking, they're doing rates a little bit less than I expected.

Gary Tenner
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Okay. They're doing long-term fixed rate loans lower than you want to do them. In terms of just the activity levels and quality of credit that you're seeing come through, how does that look today?

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Well, we see the quality pretty much the same situation. I don't think the industry has been loosened on the quality.

Gary Tenner
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, D.A. Davidson

No.

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Based on our colleague has been very much controlling themselves in that aspect. Likewise, obviously, we try to do that too.

Gary Tenner
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, D.A. Davidson

All right. Thank you.

Operator

The next question will come from Andrew Terrell with Stephens. Please go ahead.

Andrew Terrell
Managing Director, Stephens

Hey, good afternoon.

Edward Czajka
CFO, Preferred Bank

Andrew.

Andrew Terrell
Managing Director, Stephens

Hey. I wanted to start on just the margin, the $3.4 million interest reversal. It seems like that's 19-20 basis points of margin or so. Just as that normalizes in 2Q, I guess if we add that back in, it gets closer to like a 375 type margin. Similar to your fourth quarter. Just wanted to verify that's how you're kind of thinking about margin for 2Q or how else should we think about trends of the NIM going into 2Q and then kind of throughout the year?

Edward Czajka
CFO, Preferred Bank

Yeah, I think directionally you're correct, but probably about five basis points high there. The margin for March came in at 371, just so you know that. We're looking for something in that area as we go forward. Now with the sale of the note on April 1st, we are going to recoup some interest that we reversed out. That's going to be a little bit of a tailwind for Q2, so it might be a little higher than that, but right around the 370 number, I think, is probably good for us.

Andrew Terrell
Managing Director, Stephens

Great. Okay. Then just on the note sales, good to see you guys get out of them in April at a pretty good price. Should we expect that when you talk about resolution of some of the remainder of these credits by third quarter timeframe, note sales the primary avenue in which you're seeking to remediate or any other planned actions on the non-performers?

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Obviously, note sale is the quickest and best for us if we can get the price that we want to get, okay? That is really also a pricing issue for us. Actually, each loan has its different nature. The clearest situation is the loan-to-value ratio based on appraisal. Normally speaking, obviously, when the situation is narrow, you don't get as good a pricing as the others, as the so-called loan with a bigger margin in the situation. In the meantime, the other resolution process, which is foreclosure process, is still going on. Right now, most of the loan has been filed bankruptcy filings. We have to go through the dealing with the bankruptcy too. It depends on what the bankruptcy judge is awarding. They might award, in certain cases, they have more time to selling it or to operate it, to reorganize it.

That's something out of our hands. To the extent we can get them immediately in our hands, then we will resell them. Therefore, each property has a different resolution nature. Not that it's very necessarily predictable.

Andrew Terrell
Managing Director, Stephens

Yeah. Understood. Okay. I appreciate it. Just one more for me on some of the commentary around competition. Understand it's a tougher market here. Just wanted to maybe reframe expectations on loan and deposit growth for the year. If I add back in the HFS loans this quarter, looks like you were kind of tracking mid-single digits. Do you feel like in this competitive backdrop, that's a decent cadence through the year for loan growth or are we more likely to see some compression just given the competitive environment?

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Yeah. I think about three months ago in the press conference, I was saying internally, we're guiding ourselves doing high single digit. However, internally, we didn't know there's a war in Iran. Whether how much the change on that issue alone, we do not know. Plus, we seem to have administration that is presenting more changes in every aspect of the situation that usually bank gets related to any of the changes they want to make. Our situation right now is that we're bouncing backwards and forwards in terms of our own internal expectation and so on. We have to be realistic. When there are wars going on, when there's no petroleum, when the price goes through the roof, you're not going to see the same loan demand as you are in a peacetime situation.

I guess all these kind of situation, all we can do is stay alert, but we still hope that this will be a growth year for Preferred Bank.

Andrew Terrell
Managing Director, Stephens

Great. Thanks so much for taking the questions.

Operator

The next question will come from David Feaster with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

David Feaster
Managing Director, Raymond James

Hey, good morning, everybody.

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Hey, David.

Edward Czajka
CFO, Preferred Bank

Good morning.

David Feaster
Managing Director, Raymond James

I just wanted to follow up on that growth discussion. I was hoping you could maybe help break down a bit of the dynamics behind the slower growth that we're seeing. It sounds like, to your point, that we may be seeing somewhat of a slowdown in demand. Is that a fair characterization if I'm reading between the lines? Just any commentary on how payoffs and pay downs have been playing into this and where you're seeing the most opportunity within the pipeline and to grow loans right now.

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

I think demand slowdown is a foregone conclusion. Just think about when the petroleum price is going to $100 a barrel. Not petroleum, oil. When the products are related, all the various product, they're related. The short-term, long-term effect is hard to measure. The supply nature also makes it immeasurable. Definitely that will affect. It's just we may not see it all yet at this point of time reflected in our economy. That is what we are pretty much convinced in-house at Preferred Bank.

David Feaster
Managing Director, Raymond James

Okay. Maybe just shifting gears back to the credit side. Obviously, look, you guys have been very active managing credit. You've worked through a lot of issues. I assume that you've done a pretty deep dive into the book at this point. Do you think we're at or near an inflection here? Are you seeing continued migration or is some of this broader macro side, do you think credit is not at that point yet and it's just still pretty uncertain?

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Okay. Well, number one issue is that I don't know in the past we have been this busy on credit or not, okay? It seems to be this transaction is really the inflection point on our current attention and so on. Even with that, it has been a group of loans that was performing pretty well until there's some irregular return was found by, I guess anybody knows that, by Western Alliance Bank. Western Alliance Bank, they published an announcement, and the whole thing just started to get sour from that point on, in the next several months, to the point we have to call it a non-accrual, okay? We had to resolve that immediately. Other than that, our total credit picture has been remaining generally stable. I can send you the FDIC statistic about our 10-year charge-off ratio.

We're probably lower than the average of the banking group. I do not know that we have been struggling about credit in the past, but we are struggling about this credit, this group of credit right now, okay?

David Feaster
Managing Director, Raymond James

Okay.

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Yes.

David Feaster
Managing Director, Raymond James

Maybe just last one from me. You're still sitting on a lot of excess capital. You've been more active with the buyback. I'm just curious how you think about capital priorities today. The stock's moved a bit higher from where you've repurchased more recently. Just curious how you think about capital priorities today.

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Well, there are two groups of thoughts. One group representing the more sort of the active trader investor type, okay? Their idea is that you have enough capital, you just go do the buyback, whatever you can, immediately, as much as you can, okay, so on. That's one group. We have another group of long-term investors, their position of the bank hardly moves at all in the past 10 years. Plus, we have also rating agency, okay? Both of them seem to say, "Well, you need to play it safe on your capital. What you need to do is look at the future economy, look at your earnings forecast and so on, and determine on a flexible basis what you can do year from year," okay? Our board decided the security is above all situation.

We're leaning a bit toward about our long-term shareholder viewpoint.

David Feaster
Managing Director, Raymond James

Okay. That makes sense. Maybe if I could just squeeze one more in. Just curious, with the rate backdrop today, you're obviously naturally asset sensitive, but given the market's kind of looking at this as the Fed on pause, maybe for now at least, has your thoughts on managing rate sensitivity shifted at all?

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Well, I would say something, Ed and I have jointly done this matter all the time, okay? My feeling is that within the next few group of rates, for Preferred Bank particularly, we are sort of near neutral in assets sensitivity, particularly because of our large TCD portfolio, okay? Under the current status, where the rate is not moving, actually, our TCD rate we're paying is improving in each quarter, okay? At a very slow rate nowadays, okay? Because of market competition. We just are not clear about the economy yet. Again, likewise, with all the things that were happening to us, obviously, we can always name the war is one of them, okay? What would that do to our economy?

Would you be able telling me whether we're going to have recession ahead of us, or we have low growth ahead of us, or high growth ahead of us? Okay. This question is puzzling, generally, almost everyone at this point of time, yeah. Because a lot of uncertainty we're facing. This year, the challenge is, in my opinion, stay flexible.

David Feaster
Managing Director, Raymond James

Okay.

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Alert. Flexible. I don't know, Ed, how you feel.

Edward Czajka
CFO, Preferred Bank

Yeah. Well, no, I think similarly. We haven't really changed much in terms of the balance sheet profile in probably the last 12 months since we, at the height of rates in 2023, started doing more fixed rate loans. That percentage between fixed and variable on the book is about the same as it's been, about 75/25 variable to fixed. Along with that, we try to get more and more of our large corporate deposit accounts, interest-bearing checking and money market, tied directly to Fed funds, the large corporate accounts. To the extent we can tie them to Fed funds, it makes our asset liability matching, as Mr. Yu said, more closer to neutral than the asset sensitivity we had, say, going into 2021, 2022, when we were highly asset sensitive and took advantage of all the rate hikes.

I think we're on a pause mode in terms of changing the balance sheet and want to keep it where it is right now. As Mr. Yu said, flexibility. If this war continues and we get into a point where inflation creeps up, we may not be looking at rate cuts as the next rate change from the FOMC. I think we want to stay flexible, and what we've always done is keep both sides of the balance sheet short, and that way we can react to anything.

David Feaster
Managing Director, Raymond James

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

This will conclude our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Li Yu
Chairman and CEO, Preferred Bank

Well, thank you so much for your interest in Preferred Bank, okay? We hope that what we have described today is our roadmap going into the next few quarters, and hopefully we can produce even better financial results in the next few periods of time, okay? Thank you. Thank you very much.

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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