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Earnings Call: Q1 2021

Apr 28, 2021

Operator

Good day, welcome to the Saia, Inc. hosted first quarter 2021 earnings call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Doug Col. Please go ahead.

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Thanks, Olivia. Good morning. Welcome to Saia's first quarter 2021 conference call. With me for today's call is Saia's President and Chief Executive Officer, Fritz Holzgrefe. Before we begin, you should know that during this call, we may make some forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements, and all other statements that might be made on this call that are not historical facts, are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, and the actual results may differ materially. We refer you to our press release and our SEC filings for more information on the risk factors that could cause actual results to differ. I'm going to go ahead and turn the call over to Fritz now for some opening comments.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Good morning, and thank you for joining us to discuss Saia's first quarter results. I'm pleased to report that we opened 2021 with record results across the board, despite significant winter weather storms experienced in many terminal locations mid-quarter. First quarter revenue was a record $484 million, surpassing last year's revenue by 8.4%, a record for any quarter in Saia's history. Operating income grew by 26% to a first quarter record of $48.7 million, and our record 89.9 operating ratios in the quarter mark the third consecutive quarter where our OR was sub 90. As I mentioned, winter weather activity in mid-February impacted our operations significantly, with as many as 70 terminals closed or operating on a limited basis for several days. As the storms passed and our network got back to pre-storm productivity levels, we saw healthy daily shipment trends at the end of February, which carried through March.

For the full quarter, shipments per workday increased 2.6%, and tonnage per workday increased 5.3%. Volume trends absent the weather continued to reflect the continuation of the strong level of business activity that we felt in the second half of 2020 as the economy began the initial reopening phase following the COVID-19 related shutdowns. Our ability to work through the network disruptions in the quarter and deliver our customers freight with a 98.7% on-time service is a testament to the talent and efforts of the entire team. I'm pleased that our quality remained a priority, and our cargo claims ratio improved year-over-year to 0.65%. With strong service levels, our value proposition continues to present us with an opportunity to improve pricing. On January 18th, we implemented a general rate increase of 5.9%, and contracts renewed in the quarter did so with an average rate increase of 9%.

Our pricing initiatives are not limited to base rate increases as we intensify our focus on accessorial charges and ensuring that we recoup our substantial investments in service. As we build our business, we continue to optimize our mix of business with an emphasis on customers that support our value proposition. The combination of these efforts are driving the positive pricing performance that we're achieving, and overall yield, excluding fuel surcharge, improved by 5.7%. Revenue per shipment, excluding fuel surcharge, increased 8.5%, benefitting not only from pricing gains, but also from the 6.6% increase in length of haul and the 2.6% increase in weight per shipment. Ultimately, this improvement in our revenue per shipment plays a key role in improving our margins and drove our record first quarter financial performance. I'm going to turn the call over to Doug for a review of our first quarter financial results.

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Thanks, Fritz. First quarter revenue was $484.1 million, up $37.7 million or 8.4% from last year, with one less workday in the period. Revenue growth resulted from a combination of our 5.3% increase in daily tonnage, as well as the 5.7% increase in our yield excluding fuel surcharge, which Fritz mentioned. Fuel surcharge was also a tailwind to total revenue growth and increased by 8.7%. Fuel surcharge revenue was 12.9% of total revenue, compared to 12.8% a year ago. Moving now to key expense items in the quarter. Salaries, wages, and benefits increased by 2.4%, with our January 1 wage increase of approximately 3.5% being the primary change variable. Purchased transportation costs increased 50% compared to last year and were 9.3% of total revenue, compared to 6.7% in the first quarter last year.

Truck and rail PT miles combined were 15.5% of our total line haul miles in the quarter, compared to 9.4% in the first quarter of 2020. Fuel expense increased by 3.9% in the quarter, despite company miles being 3% lower year-over-year. The increase was the result of national average diesel prices that rose steadily throughout the quarter. Claims and insurance expense increased by 10.2% in the quarter, largely due to higher premium costs versus the prior year. Accident related expenses were actually down year-over-year. Depreciation expense of $35.4 million in the quarter was 8.5% higher year-over-year. This is a continuation of the trend we've seen over the past few years as we've grown our terminal network, invested in equipment to lower the age of our tractor and trailer fleet, and made meaningful investments in real estate and technology.

Total operating expenses increased by 6.8% in the quarter, and with the year-over-year revenue increase of 8.4%, our operating ratio improved 140 basis points to 89.9%. Our tax rate for the first quarter was 22.3% compared to 23.7% last year, and our diluted earnings per share were $1.40 compared to $1.06 a year ago. We anticipate an effective quarterly tax rate of approximately 24% for the remainder of the year. During the first quarter, we made capital investments totaling $25.6 million. Capital expenditures on equipment in the first quarter were below our forecast, as some of our suppliers are seeing delays in component shipments and production has been behind schedule.

We expect capital expenditures will step up over the next couple of months as we take delivery of increasing numbers of tractors and trailers, and we still expect full year 2021 capital expenditures will be approximately $275 million. Our balance sheet remains strong with $53.3 million cash on hand and more than $300 million of availability through our revolving credit facility and additional outside borrowing sources. I will now turn the call back over to Fritz for some closing comments.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

2021 is off to a good start, and we're focused on service, productivity, and pricing this year as we seek to continue our trend of improved operating results. Our value proposition continues to expand for our customers as we provide great service across a growing coverage footprint. In the first quarter, we opened a terminal in Wilmington, Delaware, and expect to open three to six more during the year. Our usage of purchased transportation increased in the quarter as we sought to maintain very high levels of service through the quarter. Further, as part of returning our network to more normal operations during February and March, we utilized purchased transportation to quickly restore service after the weather impacts. Further, as we continue to grow the business across the map, we supplement our line haul as we build density.

We focus these purchased transportation investments to balance internal and external capacity to maximize service and minimize costs. Throughout, we seek pricing that allows us to invest in these high service levels and achieve our margin objectives. I'm also excited to report we recently took delivery of Volvo's VNR Electric tractors, and we'll be utilizing them in a P&D activity in Southern California in a pilot project. These new electric units are not only an investment in our fleet, but we view them as a long-term investment in the environment and sustainability.

We've long been committed to reducing the impact the effect of our operations have on the environment by modernizing our fleet to improve fuel efficiency and reduce carbon emissions. These battery electric units are our next step in the pursuit of this long-term goal. Later in the year, we'll begin a pilot project using CNG powered tractors, and we'll continue to evaluate other alternative fuel options as they are available. With that said, we're now ready to open the line for questions, Operator.

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, press star one to ask a question. We will pause for just a moment to allow everyone the opportunity to signal. Our first question is coming from Todd Fowler with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Great. Thanks, and good morning. Fritz, with your comments around the contract renewals coming in at 9% during the quarter, obviously a very strong result. Is your sense that that's really where the market's at? I know for a while there had been an opportunity for you maybe to move pricing up a little bit more as your service levels had improved, as you built out the network. Can you comment on your pricing relative to the market and also maybe some expectations for contract renewals and yields as we move through the year?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Yeah. Thanks, Todd. Listen, in this environment where we are right now, we think it's a favorable backdrop for pricing. Quite frankly, the cost to operate the business this year, either from recruiting drivers, maintaining drivers, investments in technology, all support the need for additional pricing. Our focus is really about not only getting the base rates right, but then also making sure that we charge for all the extras, the accessorials, if you will. We're pleased with the 9% contract renewal, and that reflects the book of business that was negotiated in the quarter.

I think that the environment is such that I think all the entire space is pushing pricing. We continue to need to push that when we benchmark our pricing versus the competition versus the market and benchmark our service levels versus the market. We got to keep pushing that. We're not satisfied at this level. There remains an opportunity, and frankly, we need to do it because of the underlying costs in the business that we're challenged with. Good quarter around it, but I think there's more room for us into the balance of the year.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay, good. Yeah, that's good context. Then just secondly, with margins, I think that coming into the year, you talked about the potential for 200 basis points of margin improvement, maybe something a little bit better than that, depending on where the environment was. Can you comment a little bit more now that we've got a quarter underneath our belt, it feels like that the environment is pretty strong, on what your expectations for margin improvement would be. Then are you at the point where you can add terminals and grow without having a drag from a margin perspective as you open new service centers?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Todd, I think that if we look at the range opportunity for us this year, certainly throwing a sub 90 up in the first quarter pushes us to the upper end of that opportunity range. If we look at just what we're thinking about around Q1 to Q2 sequentials there. Obviously, the weather impacts in the first quarter. If we look into Q2, there's probably 250-300 basis points improvement quarter-to-quarter there that we have line of sight to and feel pretty, we'll operate in that environment. I think as the environment develops over the year, we'll continue to push the margin and pricing. Now, at the same time, we're also confronted with, and it's built into our expectations. Wage inflation is going to continue to be real there. Recruiting costs continue to be real.

It's a competitive market out there for drivers, and that's important. We're focused on that, on recruiting. That's an underlying cost. That means we got to keep pushing the pricing meter as well. I think that longer term into the year, we feel better and better about our performance, but there's a lot of execution that's still got to happen. Our operations team is doing a great job. That'll continue, but it's a challenged market in terms of finding the right labor in the right spot. We feel pretty good about Q2, kind of where it's going, but its full year should be good.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Yeah. Okay. Understood. Yeah, starting below 90 with weather in 1Q is a good start to the year. I'll turn it over and jump back in the queue. Thanks so much for the time.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Amit Mehrotra with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Amit Mehrotra
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hey, thanks. Hi, Fritz. Hi, Doug. Just a quick follow-up on the 9% contractual renewals. Obviously, nice acceleration from the 6%-7% last couple of quarters. I guess some of that may be coming at the cost of volume and shipment growth. Obviously, you do have a fixed cost base where volume growth is helpful in terms of absorbing that. Just wanted to ask you maybe a philosophical question about striking the right balance between price and volume or is it just there's just so much runway in terms of where your revenue per bill is right now and where it should be, that you still kind of expect to continue moving up on the pricing spectrum? If you can just talk about that.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Yeah. Amit, listen, we're focused on driving returns, right? This is a business that underlying has got inflationary costs. We look at where our pricing is vis-a-vis the market, where our margin structures are. We see the opportunity there. We're focused on growing our operating income. We're focused on growing that. We're not looking to shed necessarily volume. What we're looking to do is finding better priced freight or better opportunity to leverage all the things that we do well and finding those customers that support that.

I think that that ultimately is where we drive value in this business, more so than necessarily chasing volume for volume's sake. It's about optimally pricing and operating and providing that service. Our trade is always going to be towards margin because we think that's the biggest value driver for us. That's better pricing, finding freight that fits the network better that we can more optimally handle and generate a return.

Amit Mehrotra
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yeah. Just as a follow-up, Doug, it'd just be helpful to look at what March tonnage did and April tonnage, I don't know if you want to talk, year-over-year is kind of weird, but you can also talk about sequentially as well. Fritz, you talked about OR progression, feeling good about 2Q. Wonder if you could be a little bit more specific around that in terms of what you think the sequential change should be. All related to that, I don't know, it's a weird quarter, I don't want to look at the 89.9 as kind of indicative of where you exited the quarter. I don't know if you can provide a little bit more color in terms of March was obviously a better operating environment, both cost and revenue perspective. What was the OR kind of in March, relative to kind of that 89.9% for the full quarter?

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Sure. Hey, Amit. Yeah, I'll run through the shipment and tonnage numbers. I know that we put the January and February numbers out, I'll just recap them quickly. Shipments for workday in January were positive, up 1.4%. In February, shipments for workday fell 6.7%. Like Fritz said, we had a week where 70-ish terminals were either closed or very limited, that impacted February shipments. Some of that ended up probably shifting into March is seasonally a stronger month. March shipments for workday were up 12.1%. On the tonnage side, January was up 5.4% for workday. February was down 2.3% for workday. Tonnage was up 11.5% for workday in March. You can see weight per shipment has been pretty positive, up 2.6% for the quarter, and that's helping on the revenue per bill side as well.

In terms of the margins, Fritz mentioned, we feel like 250-300 basis points is the opportunity in the quarter. Historically, the way we view that is, it's been over the last three to five years, it's been 230-250 basis points better in Q2 than Q1 when we adjust out for major accidents to try to smooth it. We feel like, with the impact of weather in the month of February, that we probably left a little bit on the table. That's why Fritz says 250-300 is probably the right way to think about what we should be able to do. You're right, things were very strong in March, and that was a record OR for us in March.

Amit Mehrotra
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

What was that OR in March?

What was that OR in March?

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Come on, Amit. We don't give out the monthly OR, but it was pretty good.

Amit Mehrotra
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

All right.

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Just because we're neighbors now doesn't mean I'm going to tell you.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

I think if you look at what we're thinking about for change from Q1 to Q2, I think that's probably indicative, right? We're pretty confident.

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Yeah.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

We feel pretty good about the second quarter.

Amit Mehrotra
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

All right. Very good. Thank you guys for entertaining my questions. Appreciate it. Bye.

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Thanks, Amit.

Operator

Thank you. Next, we will go to Jon Chappell with Evercore. Please go ahead.

Jon Chappell
Analyst, Evercore

Thank you. Good morning. Fritz, you mentioned some of the hiring inflation and probably some of the challenges as well. As we think about comp, and also purchase transportation to meet the service levels that you guys want, should we think about those maybe holistically? If you can't really add the people that you want at the front end, you supplement that with purchase transportation. Once you finally scale the internal employee count, maybe the purchase transportation comes down. Rather than looking at comp was down pretty meaningfully year-over-year as a percentage of revenue, but PT was up, we look at that trend as one.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Yeah. Quite honestly, that's how we think about it internally. You're going to provide line haul coverage to support our service offering, and you're either going to use your own internal assets, and in the instances where it's more optimal or you need the capacity, you would go outside. Yeah, we think about it in those contexts.

Jon Chappell
Analyst, Evercore

Okay, great. Also on terminal expansion. You mentioned the Northeast Atlanta terminal back in February, I guess you said another four to six in 2021. There's a lot of commentary out in the market about difficult real estate markets. People don't really want to sell warehouses right now. As you think about your organic expansion plans for this year, are you finding challenges in the market as far as land or existing terminals exist? You also mentioned in February Chicago could be a potential for capacity, maybe in Houston. Any other regional commentary you can make on organic expansion plans?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Sure. Listen, I think there are certain markets where the real estate opportunities are pretty challenged. [North] Atlanta for us, frankly, took us a long time to get that into the pipeline, but we have line of sight to get that open in the fourth quarter, so we're excited about that. That was probably indicative of what it's like to deal with in a growing metro market to find a location that's appropriate, one that you can develop, that somebody can get the right zoning. In that market, we're competing with industrial real estate investors for that property. You see that in other markets around the country. We also see we've got a pipeline of opportunities that we should be able to get closed this year, which we're excited about. Places like Chicago, certainly those are in our sort of sights around opportunities.

We're not really in a position to announce anything around those specifics, but those are markets that we're looking at. L.A. Basin, certainly those are opportunities there. That's a really challenging market. Probably end up leasing assets there because it's difficult to find willing sellers, if you will. I think as you look across our geography, all the markets present some sort of an opportunity for us, right? If you just take our footprint and lay it against some of the best-in-class carriers, we're at 170 terminals now, which is great. The others are sort of north of 200. Many of those, yeah, there's some markets that we don't have coverage in yet that we will, but there's also greater density that we could build in places like Chicago, Houston, Dallas, that are there for us, and that's part of our real estate pipeline.

Jon Chappell
Analyst, Evercore

All right. That sounds great. Thank you for the thoughts, Fritz.

Operator

Next, we will go to Jack Atkins with Stephens. Please go ahead.

Jack Atkins
Analyst, Stephens

Great. Good morning, and thanks for taking my questions, guys. I guess just going back to the pricing environment for a moment, and the 9% increase that you realized in the first quarter on contractual renewals. Does that include the work you're doing on the accessorial side as well? Can you maybe walk us through some examples of some of the changes around your accessorial policies? Just given the tight capacity environment out there, I would think that you could do quite a bit on that front.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Yeah. If you look at the legacy of some of these, there would be instances where historically maybe we waived a liftgate charge or a limited access or frankly, making deliveries into high-cost areas. Those are areas that maybe we waived or didn't have an accessorial for that. As we have refined our costing and understanding the characteristics of the customer's freight, we have taken those waivers out. Significantly, we note in here the GRI was 5.9% for our tariff customers back in January. The biggest part of that actually was lifting waivers around that were in place with that set of accounts. That's not part of the 5.9%, it's an addition to. The opportunity there, and we pushed that pretty hard, that's been accepted in most cases.

There's some refinements that have come up after the fact, but I think that is indicative of we know what the costs are and now getting paid for that service, right? Across the board on all of our contractual renewals, any of the 3PL work we do, all of that, we've got to make sure that we're getting paid for those additional service offerings. The 9% has got some of that in there, but frankly, there's always more, right? As we understand the customer's freight characteristics, there's an opportunity for us to continue to push those sort of pricing initiatives. The environment's there for that. Special assets are required, and we need to get paid for it, be it residential, liftgate, limited access, all those sorts of things are pretty critical.

Jack Atkins
Analyst, Stephens

Okay.

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Jack, also, I think you should just remember to frame it up the right way. Those contractual renewals to us are really, you know, t hey should give you an indication of where the shipper's mindset's at. You know the structure of our contracts. It's not like you can go bake 9% into your earnings model. That's the negotiated rate, and then you sit back and see what freight actually comes to you, see if it comes to you in the lanes you thought it was going to come to you in. The acceleration is definitely in part due to what we're seeing with capacity and the tightness that's out there right now.

Jack Atkins
Analyst, Stephens

Okay. No, that makes a lot of sense, Doug. I guess just from a follow-up, if I could go back to the question around trends in April. Could you comment on what you're seeing from a tonnage and shipment perspective in April and, I think, looking at it both year-over-year and maybe sequentially versus March would be helpful, if that's possible?

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Yes. So far, it's been a strong trend. Through this part of April, shipments are up about 28% year-over-year, and tonnage is up 30%-ish year-over-year so far in April. Sequentially, there's usually a step up March to April and then a low single-digit step up again in May. Through the summer, it flattens out on a shipment per day basis. Seasonally, it's stepping up like historically you would expect.

Jack Atkins
Analyst, Stephens

Okay, that's great. Thanks again for the time.

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Sure.

Operator

We will now go to Jordan Alliger with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Jordan Alliger
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Yeah. Hi, morning. I'm curious. Given all the growth and capacity that's out there for LTL and the tightness in the industry, do you have a sense for how much capacity you have throughout your network to accommodate growth? How much excess you may have, or are you running up against the limit?

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Yeah. On the capacity side, you have to look at it really in three buckets. On the terminal side and door side, we think there's 10%- 15% latent capacity out there. You'll have pinch points in some markets where you couldn't handle an influx of 15% volume. In general, we've grown the door count pretty consistently over the last few years. It's probably up 5% year-over-year on the door side. Fritz, we talked a little bit about the lag here and taking deliveries of equipment so far year- to- date. That's your other bucket of capacity. Probably we've got the power we need, but the final component of capacity is the driver side for us, and that's been tight, as you've read in every release that's out there.

We're offering hiring bonuses in a lot of markets and referral bonuses across the network, trying to bring in qualified drivers. That's the piece now that is the drag on adding capacity. We're working through that, and you saw it reflected in our PT numbers. Still, we're not going to use the PT unless we can price to move the freight and provide good service.

Jordan Alliger
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next, we will go to Tyler Brown with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Hey, good morning, guys.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Hey, Tyler.

Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Hey, Fritz. This is a conceptual question. I want to come back to this talk about capacity. I think this quarter you crested 900 mi on your length of haul. I think it was the first time you've ever done that. You're obviously becoming an increasingly competitive national player. I'm curious about what pressures the longer haul is having on the network. Are you running into any door pressures on that east-west break? I know you upgraded in Memphis. What about markets like Kansas City or Indy, Columbus? Maybe those are examples. Are you needing to put more capacity into some of those key breaks? Is that holding you back in any way?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Where I'd say it impacted us was in February. One of the weather impacts, Tyler, was around Memphis, was weathered out for probably close to two weeks. That was an impact, and as you would expect, that's an important east-west corridor for us. That we ended up using PT around that. That's part of what happens with PT, that longer length of haul, that's a capacity component, right? We use more PT to support that as well, either via rail or truck. Right now, the Memphis assets, Kansas City, Indy, we've invested in Indy and Memphis. Both of those are new facilities. They've got ample capacity. Kansas City has got capacity. There are probably opportunities to invest in that market over time. The facilities haven't been a pinch point, but our PT utilization reflects what you're seeing around length of haul.

Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. Yeah, that's helpful. I know Paul Peck recently retired. Obviously, a very illustrious career with Saia.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Yep.

Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

You elevated Patrick Sugar to COO. I know he's been pretty central to a lot of what's been going on, the Northeast expansion, technology, et cetera, but just any thoughts about operationally, could we see any change in thought or philosophy with Patrick at the helm?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

No. I think what you would focus on, and we talk a lot about this. We, over the last several years, has been very much of a focus around data analytics, optimization, decision support around making the right pricing decision, operating decisions, scheduling, rolling out new technology. Although Peck was providing the leadership, Sugar was in the center of all those sort of activities, as he has emerged in the new role.

I think you just see more of the same. It's the culture that Paul was in. It's critical to the development of the culture and the leadership in our team. Patrick contributes to the leadership and culture and then adds the data analytics. I think the combination of those two things were a roll win for us over time. This was kind of normal transition for us, for Paul to retire and move back to Louisiana, and Patrick to be in a position to assume those duties. I'm excited about the whole organization around this. It had been a planned transition, and we've been able to pull it off.

Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. That's helpful. Doug, just quick housekeeping item, but are you extending the extra PTO into this year, or should that normalize for the rest of the year? Is that about a $10 million expense that kind of comes out this year, assuming you go back to a normal PTO structure?

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

No, it doesn't continue into this year. The extra PTO that was granted was last year to kind of weather the initial COVID impact. That doesn't roll forward into the year.

Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. That's a help this year.

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Well, yeah, I mean, the wage increase that was delayed from July and pushed into January would be a hurt in that aspect.

Tyler Brown
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. A couple of things going on. Okay. All right. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Next, we will go to Scott Group with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Scott Group
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Hey, thanks. Morning, guys. So Fritz, I wanted to ask a couple of longer-term questions. You talk about potential to go from 170 to over to 200 terminals, and now that you're clearly sub 90 on OR, I'm sure the next sort of goal is 85 on the OR. What's a realistic timeline for hitting those two milestones?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

To hitting an 85?

Scott Group
Analyst, Wolfe Research

An 85 and then getting to 200+ terminals.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

I got you. I think the way I would point to is kind of what we've done over time, right? I think that in a normal sort of cadence, normal environment, we ought to be able to do 150- 200 basis points of improvement year-over-year, right? If things are in a better environment, we probably beat that. In a tighter environment, maybe it's more challenged. I think the facilities that we add over time, we tend to be focused on doing this on an organic basis. If the opportunity presents itself, we probably accelerate that process like we did two years ago in the Northeast when the New England terminals became available. I think we can, as we look to optimize them, that maybe we slow down some of the cadence.

If you go to the key thing going from 170- 200 terminals, yeah, there's going to be Chicagos, there's going to be additional Atlanta, additional Houstons in there, but then there are also going to be ones that may be West Virginia that are smaller, that sort of thing. They're not all the same. One of the big things that I think value driver for us over time, and we're seeing it a little bit now as we build around the 170s, we start building density across all the network. You see that leverage. I think that we'll spread that out over a few years, but I think that as we continue to execute in a favorable environment, we move to the upper end of that range.

I think the thing that's really exciting that's happened over the last couple of years, and I think you just saw it in Q3 last year, Q4, and Q1 even, is the execution has allowed us to kind of raise the floor, if you will. The downside risk, I think is much less than it historically has been as we've built scale and improved our own operational execution. I think the opportunity's there. I don't see an impediment for us.

Scott Group
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Okay. Just on the truck technology side, you mentioned electric. Realistically, what percentage of the fleet could this be four or five years from now? Any thoughts on any autonomous options as well?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Yeah. On the fleet piece, there could be an opportunity sooner than later around the P&D part of the business, right? If you look at the electrics that we launched in SoCal, the interesting thing there is that could be a really useful sort of match to provide service to our customers in the L.A. Basin or in those areas where maybe the asset utilization is not sort of 24/7. You could run it in the city during the day, then the four or five-hour charging time. Maybe you could do that at night and not really have an impact on the operation. Typically, our newest equipment we'd like to put in dual use, in that environment, perhaps you take a different [tack]. It almost assumes the role of a Class 6 tractor in our fleet.

One with better torque, actually, that would be a bonus or a plus. I think over time, I think that's probably where it first makes an impact is going to be in the city operation. I would say that it's probably three, five years down the road. The key thing and the thing we're excited about with this pilot is that we can get our hands on it, see what the operational characteristics are, and then really understand the cost of operating these things. I mean, there's a lot of information that's floating around out there around what they could do, and for us, we're kind of like, "Let's put our hands on it, and let's understand it before we draw conclusions." I think it's probably down the road still. Around autonomous, I think that there's a lot of talk about that.

I think maybe there's an opportunity in the sort of the line haul network that's sooner. Kind of five, seven years, I don't know. Listen, we haven't seen anything in operation yet, so it's tough for us to conclude what the timing would look like. Certainly, that would probably be the most likely application. I wouldn't see that necessarily early on in the city operation, just nature of traffic and all those sorts of things. A lot to be learned here, Scott, around where this technology goes.

Scott Group
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Appreciate the thoughts. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Next, we'll go to Stephanie Benjamin with Truist. Please go ahead.

Stephanie Benjamin
Analyst, Truist

Hi. Good morning.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Morning.

Stephanie Benjamin
Analyst, Truist

I wanted to talk about your business mix kind of during the quarter and maybe the breakout between consumer and industrial, if you saw that change at all or compared to historical averages in 1Q, and really what your expectations are throughout the year just in terms of business mix between the two, and any kind of color you can provide on those would be helpful?

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

I don't think we saw anything in terms of mix with our customer base that looks a whole lot different than most first quarters. The manufacturing base starts to come to life a little bit after the late December and early January shutdowns. We've got some big retail customers that kick in and do some seasonal shipping with us as they roll out spring merchandise. I think it was a pretty balanced mix. I always think our business is 60%-65% industrial. When you walk our docks, that's what you see on the dock. There's been different segments that have had different rates of comeback in terms of housing or auto. In general, I think the mix is about the same.

Stephanie Benjamin
Analyst, Truist

Got it. Just a follow-up to some of the terminal questions that were asked earlier. Is there a general idea of when we can expect some of those incremental four to six terminals throughout the year, just as we kind of look to plan from a modeling standpoint, just the incremental investments that come from starting some of those terminals?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Yeah. They're going to be second half, so Q3, Q4. Quite honestly, they'll be expenses. I don't know that they'll necessarily be visible. If we keep focusing on our core execution, we'll be able to reinvest those without necessarily having a material or notable impact on the overall operation. The good news is at 170 terminals, when you're adding three or four, we can absorb those pretty easily.

Stephanie Benjamin
Analyst, Truist

Absolutely. Well, that's all I had. Thanks so much.

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Thanks, Stephanie.

Operator

Next, we will go to Ari Rosa with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Ari Rosa
Analyst, Bank of America

Great. Good morning. First question, just wanted to see if you could maybe contextualize the 9% contractual rate increases and the 5.9% GRI. How does that compare to what you're seeing in terms of cost inflation? Obviously, we've talked a lot about kind of wages, you put the 3.5% wage increase in place in January. Maybe you could talk about some of the other line items and maybe where you're seeing some pressure.

Doug Col
EVP and CFO, Saia

Sure. In the quarter, our OpEx per shipment was up about 5.8%, I think almost 6%. We lost some shipments in the middle of February, and you don't lose the fixed cost, so that number is a little bit inflated. You would expect it to trend up a little bit the longer length of haul. It costs a little more to go the extra distance. In general, I think 3%-4% is a rate of inflation, if you want to call it, in that metric that you should think about. You grow your margins if you grow your revenue per bill faster than that. The cost buckets, they're all the same ones we talk about. Fritz mentioned salaries and wages, the inflation there, and healthcare.

I don't think we've ever modeled since I've been here for anything less than 10% inflation around health and pharma costs. Fuel, obviously this year, put a little pressure on that operating expense per shipment number, too. Combination of things, but I think if we had normalized shipments in Q1, it's in that 3.5%-4% range.

Ari Rosa
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. Understood. Sorry, go ahead.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

On the pricing side, I would just add one element to this, is that as we think about pricing, we're thinking about focusing our pricing efforts on getting what's available or what the market is, right? It's not necessarily pricing to get to an 85 OR. It's pricing to get what's available in the market, right? If that means that that turns into a sub 85, we're okay with that, if that's what the market is. Frankly, if our pricing revenue per bill versus the other national carriers is less, we need to push to that level, right? To their level. That's not a cost-plus play. That's a if the market charges for these accessorials, then Saia is going to charge these accessorials, too. That's kind of how we think about it internally.

Ari Rosa
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. Very helpful. Then just my second question. I think you guys lease slightly over half of your service centers. Just wanted to ask from kind of a strategy standpoint, does that put you at a little bit of a structural impediment in terms of that capacity to expand? How much of an impediment, I guess, is that to getting to that sub 85 operating ratio?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Listen, we don't think the lease versus buy thing is an impediment to us getting below that sort of 85, to getting to the best in class OR. I think the impediment is making sure that you price for everything, all the service you provide. Certainly, if we build a terminal in Memphis and Indianapolis like we have in the last couple of years, those two big facilities, those are in present dollars, and certainly, our competition has maybe had facilities there for years, and that's going to be the built-in cost difference between our depreciation expense related to those facilities and theirs. That's just a fact of life. That's not the biggest difference between our OR and their OR. The biggest factor really is about pricing.

The key thing for us is, as we've looked at markets as an example of L.A. Basin, love to have purchased a facility there last year or year before last, but ended up having to lease one in Long Beach, California. The choice there is you're either in the market or you're not. It'd be preferable to own it, but we couldn't. There was not a willing seller, so leasing was fine. It's a long-term lease, and we can operate on that basis. That goes with other markets, too. Strategically, we prefer to own strategic assets, but if we can get a long-term lease that keeps us in the market, that long term, that's a value contributor as well.

Ari Rosa
Analyst, Bank of America

Does that necessity to lease, does it become any kind of headwind to expansion? Does it limit your ability to expand?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

The limit to expansion would be if we can't find facilities, right? That's the limiter. We haven't encountered that yet, right? I think there's still opportunities out there. L.A. Basin is, I'll go back to that example. That one, most people in that market, the real estate investor there says this is a long-term hold. They don't want to sell. For us, we're going to have to pay market rents there, right? Market lease. That just means you're going to have to get charged for it. That's a cost of business in L.A. Basin. In that scenario, you're going to be there. You got to price to be in that market to generate a return. We think that there's an opportunity for us to continue to grow on that basis, and certainly, it hasn't limited our ability to expand.

Ari Rosa
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. That's really helpful color. Thanks for the time.

Operator

Thank you. Next, we will go to Tom Wadewitz with UBS. Please go ahead.

Tom Wadewitz
Analyst, UBS

Yeah, good morning. I know you have a lot of different customer types and a large customer group, what are you seeing in terms of who's realizing the greatest ramp in activity? If you look at some of the different customer groups, how would you look at that, where you would expect the greatest increase in activity and the most optimism?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Boy, Tom, that one's a tough one because it's really kind of across the board right now. I think in terms of where we see business growth, there's not really a great call-out one way or the other. Historically, if you followed Saia, we might have talked more about energy in the past because of our geographies, largely in energy. We grew up in the energy patch, so that historically has been in an area that's really kind of been tied to our growth. But as we've grown, that's become less of an influence. And I would say generally, the energy space is not growing at the same rate as all the other sort of categories we participate in or other sort of sectors or industries that we see.

And you look at the geography, it kind of lines up with that. Houston is not, from a growth-wise, isn't anywhere near what you see from the other sort of geographies from us. Frankly, Houston region is still some of the best OR in the company. That hasn't necessarily been a drag on us. It's pretty across the board, to be honest with you.

Tom Wadewitz
Analyst, UBS

Right. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. You gave us pretty helpful commentary in sequential OR. I think you talked about kind of a normal year for OR improvement as well. How do you think about this year if you said, well, what kind of magnitude could you see in terms of OR improvement in full year 2021 versus 2020? Is it 300 basis points? Obviously, some elements of easy compare in second quarter in particular, but how would you think about the full year from a OR improvement potential perspective?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Listen, from what we have visibility to, we feel pretty good about second quarter. I think if that continues in the second half of the year, we'll continue to see some real strong improvements year-over-year. Q3 and Q4 of 2020 were record quarters for us. It'll be interesting to see how that continues in the second half. I think certainly it is setting up for us, and I really focus around our pricing initiatives and our internal sort of execution, and I feel pretty good we'd be at the upper end of any range based on what we see in the marketplace right now and certainly what we see into Q2.

Tom Wadewitz
Analyst, UBS

Great. Thank you for your time.

Operator

Thank you. Our final question will come from Ravi Shanker with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Ravi Shanker
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thanks. Morning, gents. There's been a lot of commentary, very helpful on where the market is and the pricing strategy and such. If I were to follow up from a slightly different angle, kind of, we heard a couple of your peers talk about gaining share in the market, and I'm sure you guys feel pretty well positioned to do that as well. It's not often that we hear about players talking about gaining share in a market that's so tight when people are kind of struggling to keep up in the first place.

How do you see the competitive environment out there? Purely if you guys are getting priced, it doesn't seem like people are beating each other up, but where are those shared gain opportunities coming from, do you think? Is that coming from smaller players in the industry? Are you expanding the LTL pie? Are you getting it from rail? What do you think there?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

I think there's some national players that are looking at their returns and looking at the margins in their business and saying, "This isn't acceptable." I don't think it's just the smaller players that might cede some share. There's bigger players and some of them well-managed companies that are just looking at things now and saying, "If I have to give increases to hire drivers and all my costs are going up, there's no reason to add volume with those factors. You might as well raise prices and do a good job with the freight you do bring in," and that fuels a continuation of the ability to raise price.

I think there's share opportunity out there. For us, like I said, on the capacity side, it's been tight for drivers. We're going to price to improve the mix of business that we're handling, whether that's weight or length of haul or the characteristics of the freight, whatever it may be, we're going to price to attract the business we want to haul and that we can make money on.

Ravi Shanker
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Just to clarify, if those entities are giving up that business because the returns are unacceptable to them, that doesn't necessarily mean that the returns are unacceptable to you because it's a better fit in your network?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Possibly, or it goes to somebody else and that just tightens things, right? If it's not a good service provider, when they say no to a lower service provider's rate increase, they're probably not going up the food chain for better service. That might take some capacity out from the smaller regional players, and that freight becomes an opportunity. It's a mix. There's not just a page in a playbook we can point to. A lot of moving pieces.

Ravi Shanker
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Got it. And just lastly, to follow up on the discussion on electric autonomous. If I'm hearing you right, you guys feel like electric is better suited for P&D right now, and autonomous is better suited for line haul. I'm just wondering if you guys have run any math, if you've approached that level to see what kind of savings you might get from running this. Right now, you have subsidies and such for electric, but just normalize where can your OR go if you convert your P&D fleet to electric and your line haul fleet to autonomous.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Yeah. At this stage, Ravi, the way we're thinking about this, our pilot here, is we want to understand what those variables are. Let's consider how we invest presently in our fleet. If we buy a diesel tractor, it's dual use in its earliest part of its life cycle. If you look at the specs around the EV tractor, if it hits the Volvo spec, it's what? 150-mi range, and it's a five-hour recharge. For us, that means that's a day P&D opportunity. Certainly in the L.A. Basin, there's probably an application there. I think it's around us understanding what those actual performance characteristics are. Down the road, we'll be able to make that kind of a call. When we look at the autonomous, that's well in the future for sure. What do the characteristics of that look like?

Do we have to keep a tenderer or a driver on board? That changes the math versus the fully autonomous, meaning no driver, right? Those things are still to be determined. Part of the reason why we made the investment, though, is we think that we know that's where the world's going. We want to participate and make sure we collect our own data to validate these sorts of investments. I think there's probably an opportunity, but it remains to be seen what the economics look like.

Ravi Shanker
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Understood. Very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. That concludes today's question and answer session. Mr. Holzgrefe, at this time, I will turn the conference back to you for any closing remarks.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and CEO, Saia

Thank you everyone for their interest in Saia. We look forward to delivering a strong second quarter here, and we'll look forward to catching up with you at the end of the quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.