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Earnings Call: Q4 2018

Feb 4, 2019

Operator

Good day, welcome to the Saia, Inc. fourth quarter 2018 earnings conference. Today's conference is being recorded, at this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Douglas Col. Please go ahead.

Douglas Col
VP and Treasurer, Saia

Thank you, Savannah. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to our fourth quarter 2018 conference call. Hosting today's call are Rick O'Dell, Saia's Chief Executive Officer, and Fritz Holzgrefe, our President and Chief Operating Officer. Before we begin, you should know that during the call, we may make some forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements, all other statements that might be made on the call that are not historical facts, are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, actual results may differ materially. We refer you to our press release and our most recent SEC filings for more information on the exact risk factors that could cause actual results to differ. I would like to turn the call over to Rick O'Dell, Saia's Chief Executive Officer.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Well, good morning, thank you for joining us to discuss Saia's results. I'm pleased to report that we closed out 2018 with record results across the board. Fourth quarter revenue grew by 12.9% to a record $407 million, pushing full-year 2018 revenue to an all-time high of $1.7 billion. Fourth quarter diluted earnings per share were $0.97, it compares favorably to adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.53 earned by Saia in the fourth quarter of 2017. For the full year of 2018, diluted earnings per share were $3.99, compared to adjusted diluted earnings per share of $2.19 in 2017. The fourth quarter represented our 34th consecutive quarter of year-over-year improvement in our reported LTL yield. Rate renewals with contractual customers resulted in an average increase of 8.9% in the fourth quarter, our overall LTL revenue per hundred weight increased 12%.

Our yield improvement not only reflects the positive actions taken on pricing, but also is due in part to our efforts to improve the mix of business that we handle. Yield in the fourth quarter benefited from a slightly longer length of haul and a small drop in our weight per shipment. Some comparisons from the fourth quarter compared to the fourth quarter of 2017 are as follows. LTL shipments per workday decreased by 0.2%. LTL tonnage per workday decreased by 0.6%, reflecting a 0.4% decrease in weight per shipment. As I mentioned, length of haul increased by 1.1% to 837 miles, the increase being related to continued expansion of our coverage map into the Northeast. LTL revenue per shipment rose 11.6% to $234.33. Purchased transportation miles were 9.7% of total line haul miles compared to 11% in 2017.

Our cargo claims ratio of 0.75% was slightly higher than the 0.72% level achieved in the fourth quarter of 2017. I'd like to highlight a couple of metrics from our full-year results before I turn the call over to Fritz for more details. In 2018, we grew LTL shipments per workday by 4.4%, while LTL tonnage grew by 6.6%. Average weight per shipment was up 2.1% for the full year, in part due to heavier weighted shipments we handled as truckload markets were tight in early 2018, and that did moderate through the year. LTL yield improved by 10.2%, and revenue per shipment increased by 12.5%. The length of hauls grew by 3.2% and benefits our reported yield. Purchased transportation miles were 10.6% of total line haul miles, essentially flat from the prior year.

The opportunity to optimize our own line haul fleet into and out of the Northeast increases as density across the region builds. In 2018, our average fuel economy improved to 6.91 miles per gallon from 6.89 miles per gallon as we continue to add new tractors with more efficient engines. In 2018, we put more than 900 new tractors in service and more than 1,750 trailers. These investments are helping us expand our service, improve our reliability and fuel mileage, and lower our maintenance costs. With that, I'm going to turn the call over to Fritz Holzgrafe to review our financial results in more detail. Fritz?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Thanks, Rick. Good morning, everyone. We generated total revenue of $406.8 million in the fourth quarter compared to $360.2 million in the fourth quarter of 2017, a 12.9% increase. Revenue benefited from positive shipment tonnage and pricing trends, as well as from the addition of new terminals during the year and growth in terminals opened in the prior year. A 28% increase in fuel surcharge revenue also contributed to the record quarter. As Rick mentioned, fourth quarter LTL yield rose 12% as a result of continued focus on pricing for profitability and effective mix management. A few key expense items which impacted the fourth quarter results on a year-over-year basis. Salaries and wages rose 11.3% to $216.6 million in the fourth quarter, reflecting the impact of an average wage increase of 3% in July.

Most significantly, the increase in our employee count of approximately 5% at year's end, driven largely by our Northeast expansion. Salaries, wages, and benefits were 53.2% of revenue in the quarter compared to 54% last year. Purchased transportation expense rose 1.7% to $28.7 million or 7.1% of revenue. This compares to PT expense of $28.2 million or 7.8% of revenue in the fourth quarter of 2017. Fuel expense rose 17.8% in the quarter and was offset by the previously mentioned increase in fuel surcharge revenue. Claims and insurance expense in the fourth quarter decreased by 8.9% to $8.3 million, primarily due to more moderate levels of accident severity versus the prior year. Depreciation and amortization of $27.2 million rose by 20.9% from the prior quarter and reflects our continued investment in real estate, equipment, and technology.

As a percentage of revenue, depreciation and amortization was 6.7% of revenue compared to 6.2% last year. Operating income rose 45.4% to a record $33.3 million from $22.9 million earned in the fourth quarter of 2017. The fourth quarter operating ratio of 91.8% was 180 basis points better than the prior year. Moving on to the financial highlights of our full year 2018 results, as Rick mentioned, revenue of $1.7 billion was a record for Saia and up 17.7% from revenues of $1.4 billion in 2017. Our operating ratio improved by 180 basis points to 91.5%, compared to 93.3% in 2017. Record operating income of $141.2 million was 49% higher than the 2017 operating income of $94.7 million. Diluted earnings per share for the fourth quarter and full year were as follows. Fourth quarter diluted earnings per share of $0.97 compares to $1.82 in the fourth quarter of 2017.

For the full year 2018, our diluted earnings per share were $3.99 versus $3.49 in 2017. As a reminder, in the fourth quarter of 2017, the company recorded a reduction in deferred income tax liability that was required as a result of the passage of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Excluding this reduction, diluted earnings per share were $0.53 for the fourth quarter of 2017 and $2.19 per share for the full year of 2017. I refer you to the reconciliation table to GAAP earnings provided in our earnings release for an explanation of the difference between our actual reported earnings and our adjusted earnings discussed on this call. At December 31, 2018, total debt was $122.9 million. Net debt to total capital was 14.8%. This compares to total debt of $132.9 million and net debt to total capital of 18% at December 31, 2017.

Net capital expenditures for 2018 were $251.7 million, including equipment acquired with capital leases. This compares to $217 million of net capital expenditures in 2017. In 2019, net capital expenditures are forecast to be approximately $275, including investments in real estate, terminal infrastructure improvement projects, our fleet, and continued investments in technology. That was $275 million in capital expenditures. I'd like to return the call to Rick.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Thanks, Fritz. In closing, I would just like to thank all of our dedicated employees for the effort given by all that produced our record 2018 results. It's an exciting time of growth at Saia, and it's gratifying to see the brand taking hold in new markets and even more satisfying to have the support of our loyal customers who are trusting us to provide great service in these expanded regions. Looking out to 2019, we're excited about continuing our push into the Northeast. We've opened 10 terminals in the region since our May of 2017 launch and plan to open four to six new terminals this year. Our ability to serve our customers in more markets is a key tenet of our value proposition, and we're excited to become an even more important part of our customers' supply chain.

Outside of our growth in the Northeast, we continue to look for opportunities to improve our coverage and reach within our own legacy service areas. Just as we opened new terminals in 2018 in Dallas, our third terminal there, and Seattle, Tacoma, our second terminal in that market, we have a number of markets under review where an additional terminal may be added to enable us to serve new customers or serve existing customers with better service and coverage. Sometimes these new centers even allow us to offer our employees a better schedule or a better commute if they transfer to this new location. Finally, with regard to the current freight environment, I'd say that January was looking like a pretty typical month in terms of what the first month of the year feels like.

We had some pretty good trends through early in the month, the winter blast over the last several days of the month slowed activity, and our January tonnage per day was down 2.9% compared to January of last year. January of last year, our tonnage was actually up 13% year-over-year, we had some tough comparisons as well. I would just say that, with the weather hit, the tough comparisons, it's really hard to draw further conclusions about the underlying environment at this point. With that said, I'd like to go ahead and open up the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, that is star one to ask a question, we will take our first question from Todd Fowler with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Great. Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Rick, I was just wondering if you could talk a little bit about your expectations in the pricing environment.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Good morning, Todd.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Hey, good morning, everyone. Can you hear me okay?

Operator

Todd, you may be on mute.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Can you guys hear me okay? Can you guys hear me?

Operator

We will move on to our next question. Our next question comes from Jason Seidl from Cowen and Company. Please go ahead.

Jason Seidl
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Good morning, guys. Can you hear me? Hello? Anyone? I think there's a problem on the conference call.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Are you sure the lines are open?

Jason Seidl
Analyst, Cowen and Company

They're not open

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

some problems here.

Jason Seidl
Analyst, Cowen and Company

They're not open.

Operator

Just one moment. Let me check on some things.

Jason Seidl
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Can you guys hear me yet? Rick and team, can you hear me? Savannah?

Operator

Yes. Jason, if you could try repeating your question.

Jason Seidl
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Yes. Can you guys hear me now?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Savannah, are you able to hear the questions? If you're able to, you could repeat them to us.

Operator

I am unable to hear the questions. I am being informed by answer line staff that they can hear them through the main conference. Just one moment. Okay, Jason, try repeating your question now. I apologize.

Jason Seidl
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Not a problem. Can everyone hear me now?

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

We can. We got it.

Jason Seidl
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Oh, hey.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Hey, good morning.

Jason Seidl
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Good morning. It's interesting because I had a couple clients email me that like, "Hey, we could hear you.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

No pressure, Jason, now I better be able to hear the question.

Jason Seidl
Analyst, Cowen and Company

No pressure at all. Not at all. Again, gentlemen, thank you for taking the time as always here. Couple quick questions. When you look at the tonnage in January, Rick, you mentioned that obviously some weather had some impacts. If you could parse that out, do you think you guys would be close to flat on a tough comp basis?

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Probably. We were actually trending up earlier in the month, up modestly. Flatish is probably fair.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah.

Jason Seidl
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Okay. That's good. I wanted to get a clarification because I heard expect net CapEx at $275 in 2019, but your release says net CapEx of $300.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah. I probably should have stated it more as a range of $275-$300. Thank you for pointing that out, Jason Seidl. The comment around that is the difference in that in the low and the upper end of that is the different real estate opportunities we're looking at. Those things tend to be pretty choppy. If we can get a couple opportunities closed, we would be at the upper end of that range and a couple on the lower end. If they didn't close, it'd be at the lower end.

Jason Seidl
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Okay. Is this more for the Northeast expansion, or are you guys still renting on that side?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

These particular projects in question would be sort of enhancements to our legacy markets. One incremental terminal that we're looking at. The Northeast, we'll continue to make. The locations that we have in the pipeline for next year are ones that likely would require a lease, and there's some smaller capital projects in the Northeast.

Jason Seidl
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Okay, fair enough. One more question, then maybe you guys can try to find Todd again here. Talking a little bit about on the pricing side, obviously last year was an incredible year for pricing on the truck side, and we are seeing a little bit of a slowdown, I think, in the rate of growth, if you will, especially on the truckload side. Talk to us a little bit about where you see pricing in 2019 on the contractual side.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

I would expect probably mid-single digits. I think you're probably right. For us, it's probably stepping down modestly, part of that's because we've been taking corrective action pricing, to some extent, that's behind us, at least with a certain number of our account base. As they come up for renewal again, we look at the opportunities and things that we need to be compensated correctly for the service that we're providing. It's more lane adjustments that would really drive those larger increases. I think you're right. I think the market's probably more mid-single digits, and we've been in the high single digits.

Jason Seidl
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Okay, fair enough. Gentlemen, thank you for the time.

Operator

Our next question will come from Stephanie Benjamin with SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Stephanie Benjamin
Analyst, SunTrust

Hi, good morning. Thank you for the question. I was hoping you could maybe walk through your just overall tonnage growth throughout the quarter kind of by monthly, that would be helpful there. Just kind of going forward in terms of, I think you said on prior calls just an ability to continue to see margin improvement in 2019, again, with the positive pricing environment and just increasing service levels. Is there anything that has changed that would cause you to not be able to see that positive margin improvement in 2019? Thanks.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Thanks for the questions. Let me start with the tonnage breakout. The tonnage changes year-over-year by month for the fourth quarter. October was plus 1.5%, November was - 0.1%, December was - 3.7%. Shipments for the same months were October +1 %, November + 1%, December - 3%. The only thing I would color, I would offer around that year-over-year, the holiday periods, typically where they fall year to year has an impact. As we pointed out in previous conversations that the hurricane impacts of the prior year rebuild certainly gave us a positive quarter last year in terms of shipments and tonnage. We've talked about on an OR basis, if you look at for the full year, we think that we can feel comfortable with this sort of 150, 200 basis points sort of change year-over-year, somewhere in there.

I think that as we continue to execute on our plan, we think that's achievable certainly for the full year.

Stephanie Benjamin
Analyst, SunTrust

Very helpful. Thanks again for your time.

Operator

We will take our next question from Todd Fowler with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Hey, can you guys hear me okay now?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

We can.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Gotcha.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

All of my questions have been asked, thanks. No, I'm kidding. Hey, I guess just maybe where I'd like to start is on the incremental margins. You guys have shown nice improvement here throughout 2018. Can you talk about, and Fritz, I know you just gave some kind of high level margin commentary for 2019, and what you'd expect for kind of a normalized environment, but I know that the headcount's been ramping up. You had some stronger tonnage growth earlier in the year. How do you think about incremental margins as we shift to maybe a slower tonnage growth environment into 2019, but you can still get some decent yield improvement?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

I think for the full year, as I've mentioned, I think that those incremental sort of 150-200 makes sense. I think the first quarter, which is traditionally an investment quarter for us as we do training or invest in some incremental sales resources or staffing. I don't think we'll likely have the same trend line in that just in the first quarter. I think for the full year, I feel pretty good about that range as we continue our initiatives in the Northeast in particular and in the other markets. First quarter, it's going to be pressured for us. It's an investment quarter. If you look back in history, it always has been. It's prepare ourselves for the seasonality of the business. Full year, we feel pretty good about that.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Yeah. First quarter also has one less workday this year, that has an impact on us as well.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Rick, is that the calendar shifts with Easter, or is that just the calendar count?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

It's just 63 workdays in Q1 versus 64 last year.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Just with the tonnage trends, I understand that in January there's some weather issues and there's the difficult comparisons. Can you give a sense, I think that there's some specific pricing actions. I think that there's some probably heavier weighted truckload shipments that are moving out. Do you have any sort of idea or can you give us an idea of are you seeing underlying growth with your existing customers? Is some of the reported tonnage impacted more by company specific actions? As you think about 2019, is that a year where you can grow tonnage on a full year basis going into the Northeast, or are the comps in the first half of the year too difficult to overcome?

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

No, we would expect modest growth in future months and quarters. I think with our expanded coverage and history would show that we continue to take share and a lot of particularly your larger contractual customers they'll wait till your opportunities come up for bid, and we have an opportunity to bid on new lanes in our expanded coverage. We would expect some modest growth for the year.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay, good. That makes sense. Just lastly, thinking about the CapEx and the growth into the Northeast. What would be some of the things that you would factor into maybe things that you would look at if you continue to see negative tonnage trends or something more specific in the economy that might cause you to slow down the growth, and how much flexibility do you have in both the growth plans and the CapEx to either step that up or step that down based on any changes in the economic environment?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Todd, I think just break that into a couple pieces. A big slug of our investment CapEx this year is going to be around equipment. We'll take deliveries on that equipment in this quarter and into the next quarter. The real estate opportunities, we have a commitment there. If the economy slowed, likely what you do, we would retire older equipment more aggressively. In that situation, you actually get a maintenance favorable trade out, right? You're taking out the older equipment that is a maintenance drag. On this capital required for the Northeast, I would characterize what we're looking at for our opportunities this year. It's almost continue with this sort of capital light philosophy around, we'll lease some of these facilities, and to the extent that we buy them, they're strategic, but they're sort of lower cost investments.

The biggest facility that we have put in the Northeast is the Harrisburg terminal, which we just opened in January. We don't have anything like a Harrisburg in the pipeline. Everything that we have is substantially smaller than that. I think we have a fair amount of flexibility around that. On the larger projects in the legacy markets, if we, in a slowdown period, we certainly can delay or defer those. We feel pretty strongly about where our balance sheet is positioned to be able to handle this level of CapEx right now, particularly what we see in the sort of operating profile of 2019.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

That's helpful. Fritz, did you say how much of the CapEx was for rolling stock this year?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

It's roughly $184, are all revenue equipment, so that's tractors, trailers, forklifts.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay, perfect. Thanks for the help this morning.

Operator

We will take our next question from Ravi Shanker with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Ravi Shanker
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thanks. Morning, guys. Just to follow up again on the macro environment kind of implications from that. I think if you go back to the last two recessions, if you will, 2008 and 2009, I think the industry went through a pretty big price war, maybe based on the health of one of the big players in the space, and that hurt earnings for everyone. In 2015 and 2016, I think it was a much more stable environment, and you didn't see that price war. Obviously, a little bit of crystal ball gazing here, but as you look at the current set up, what do you think the next recession, if it's going to be end of this year or early next year or whenever, do you think the environment is set up more similar to 2015 2016 than 2008 and 2009? The competitive environment.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah, I would think so. Obviously, the price war that took place wasn't very good for anyone in our industry, and you got to think we've learned from that. In the LTL business, you have pretty high fixed cost network, and just putting more volume through it at a lower price doesn't tend to work very well. You would think that the industry itself would have better discipline. Again, like you said, it was demonstrated in the last slowdown.

Ravi Shanker
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Got it. Just on the new terminals, I think you said in the release that 75% of the volumes are coming with existing customers in other regions who kind of know your value prop. Is that consistent with what you expected during the rollout, or is that number kind of higher or lower?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah. I would say when we originally our thesis at the beginning, we knew that we could leverage our existing customer base because they, in many cases, they are already doing business in the Northeast, and they knew who we were. I think that we've been very pleased with that level of support because it speaks to our value proposition. I would say that, the way I would interpret that, Ravi, is in two ways. One, I think it's a validation of what we do with our legacy customers and what they've come to expect. I think it also says that frankly, we have an opportunity to continue to grow in that market and find new opportunities or new customers that we currently don't do business with. I think compared to the original expectation, we knew we had it.

Did we forecast that we'd have 75% of it at this stage? I can't say we forecasted it with that specificity, but we knew that we had that opportunity. I think it's positive, supports kind of our what we do well and what customers have experienced. It also says we can continue to grow in that market.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Yeah. I think the other interesting point is, again, it's not really surprising, is that 90% of the shipments we have to and from the Northeast are either originated or destined to our legacy network. It's not surprising that you have, obviously, the customer overlap, but also, we're not playing in the regional market up there to a large extent at this point in time. Part of that's because we're just starting to get our coverage up there, and then secondarily, part of that's a strategy that we have to not compete in a low-cost, lower price regional markets that's a little more competitive than the intermediate-haul type market.

Ravi Shanker
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Our next question will come from Scott Group with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker 13

Hey, good morning, guys. It's Rob on for Scott.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Morning.

Speaker 13

Could you talk a little bit about the impact of the Northeast expansion on the profitability in 2018, and what impact you're basing in your 150-200 basis points of improvement as we look out into 2019?

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Yeah, I guess it's hard to say exactly because as we commented, 90% of the business goes to and from our legacy network. In terms of just saying, hey, what's the profitability of the Northeast business? I'd have to look back through that. If you look at just the operating ratio has improved materially since we've

Originally opened, then obviously, you also have the growth. With the growth, you have your fixed costs. Some of our fixed cost network has also been leveraged there. You want to make any other comments, Fritz?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

I think what I would add to that is, when we targeted this expansion, one of the things that we focused on was that this would benefit our contiguous network. Areas, places like Charlotte or Cincinnati. We've seen that over the course of the year, where you're leveraging the infrastructure, those sales force, those operating costs. It's tough to carve out just specifically what the impact of the Northeast is, because it has a broader, more permanent impact in the network for a business. I think that it's been a positive contributor, certainly into the second half of the year, but it's surfaced and benefited other elements of the business as well.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

I think the other thing you look at, right, is when you first open and do the expansion up there, we put all our regional leadership in, our sales leadership, our safety, human resource, claim prevention resources for a region. Then, obviously, as we open incremental terminals, you already have some of that overhead within your costs up front. The incremental margins do improve over a period of time, and obviously, you've seen that reflected in the company's results.

Speaker 13

That's fair. That was basically what we were trying to get at, is just thinking about how much of the fixed cost investment's already in as we're looking to model out for next year.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Sure.

Speaker 13

I guess, as a follow-up, just so we're kind of thinking about the Saia network today, relative to where it's been in the past, can you give us a sense of what your daily fixed cost is, so we're properly configuring the model to reflect the one you're working to?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah, I think what I would do is, if I were sitting in your chair, I would look at the costs. You can figure out the sort of workdays over time and what the costs have been by quarter. If you look at the lines into the public P&L, you can see the things that would likely be fixed or variable, and I'd model on that basis. I think that's probably the best sort of help I can give you.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Yeah, I would also say, I think a one workday change, assuming it's a full business day, generally is somewhere around $1 million- $1.5 million, probably.

Speaker 13

Perfect. Appreciate the time, guys.

Operator

We will take our next question from David Ross with Stifel. Please go ahead.

David Ross
Analyst, Stifel

Good morning, gentlemen.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Good morning.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Good morning.

David Ross
Analyst, Stifel

All right. Real quick, tax rate guidance for 2019. Any color there, Fritz?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah, I think somewhere between 23% and 23.5%. Some comments around that. Currently, we don't have an alt fuel tax out there, so that could have a impact into the year. It's part of the range there, is around that. We also had a credit in 2018 related to hurricane tax credit. That's not repeating. We hope not, anyway. The other element, probably the biggest wild card with any of this, is how the accounting treatment for sort of equity compensation, and how that changes over time. We're comfortable with that kind of a range.

David Ross
Analyst, Stifel

I guess, going back to the margin questions on the OR improvement. Given the strong yields, I would have expected maybe even a little bit better OR this quarter. I guess, how do you think about why you're not getting more leverage from the yield improvements, and what could change there?

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

You talking about the first quarter?

David Ross
Analyst, Stifel

I'm talking about in the fourth quarter. If yields are up 12%, I know it's not price specifically, and there's length of haul helped it out, and fuel surcharge helped it out. Labor cost inflation was only a few percentage. You had the Northeast drag and the tailwind, but I would have thought it still would have been maybe a little bit better. Are we missing something?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

I think what I comment is there's some positive trends in there for sure, you've got every fourth quarter, there's kind of where the calendar falls and how you operate around and through the holidays. I think that we probably weren't as efficient as we'd like to have been. If you look at the volume and tonnage trends in the quarter, you can see October was pretty positive, December was a bit choppy. I think that makes it difficult to operate at the same levels you'd like to. We're pleased though, generally over time, with our productivity in the quarter, but it's challenged in that sort of December period.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Yeah, we also opened two terminals in December, and I would just comment that while I think our Northeast expansion has gone well, I would tell you, even with where we are now, we run a lot of routes up there for service and coverage and our miles per stop is higher in the Northeast than it is in the rest of our network, just due, we don't have a lot of density there yet, right? We're going to keep the quality of our service up. We open a terminal and sometimes we don't have very many builds when we start, but we have to cover the whole geography, right?

David Ross
Analyst, Stifel

Yeah.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Our production in the Northeast isn't what it is in the rest of our network.

David Ross
Analyst, Stifel

I guess back to Fritz's comment around the volatility of the fourth quarter, I think most of that's around matching labor with the demand levels. Is there anything you guys are looking at, either on the IT side, process-wise, to improve that labor management and dynamic matching, if you will?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah, I think David, as we've talked about before, I mean, the big thing in this business is about how you capture data sooner, faster, then analyze, make better decisions with it. Those are things that as we look at our investments in 2019 and beyond, we're very focused on investments that allow us to drive our optimization software, or optimize our decision-making around everything from pricing, but more discreetly in this case, around how we manage our labor force. I think that's an opportunity that we continue to invest in. I think we've made some pretty good investments so far, but I think that's just something that we continue to refine, and there are additional tools that we'll invest in both this year and in the years ahead.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Yeah. I would just comment. Two of our major systems being our inbound planning and that rolls into your city dispatch system. We have a major investment going on in that project there, as well as some enhancements to our line haul planning system, which should benefit us as well.

David Ross
Analyst, Stifel

Sounds good. Thank you, guys.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

All right, thanks.

Operator

We will take our next question from Amit Malhotra from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Amit Malhotra
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Thanks, operator. Hi guys. Just wondering if you could help us do a little bit of the work here and actually provide the sequential progression in OR in the first quarter. I think that's something obviously you've provided in the past. Related to that, a follow-up question on incremental margins and margins. I mean, you're basically guiding to a sub 90 OR in 2019, which is a pretty great milestone for the company. If you could just talk about what your confidence is in being able to achieve that in various tonnage and volume or shipment growth scenarios, just given maybe some of the costs that you've incurred in the Northeast expansion that maybe be better absorbed as you progress through 2019.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Okay. First is two-point question, right? First quarter results. Our current outlook would be a little bit worse than normal, partially because of the one less workday, as well as the weather impact that we had late in January. Fourth quarter to first quarter is usually flattish, and we currently expect a very modest deterioration in the operating ratio from the fourth quarter. We feel good about some of the things that we're doing within the organization to be able to generate positive tonnage, particularly with the expanded coverage that we have. I mean, I don't know, I have a high confidence level, I guess I would say if the environment gets more difficult, we would be maybe at the bottom end of our 150-200 basis point range.

If the environment's good from a pricing and volumes are better, we'd be probably at the higher end of that. Obviously, if it gets a little bit worse, maybe we don't quite get 150 basis points for the year. With some top-line growth, it would still show some meaningful operating income improvement, obviously.

Amit Malhotra
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yeah. Maybe I can ask it I'm sorry about the background noise, by the way. Maybe I can ask a little bit different way in terms of where do you think some of the, I guess non-volume driven operating leverage is in the business. As you guys expand to the Northeast, I would imagine you could leverage purchase transportation costs a little bit more. Maybe there's some leverage on the workforce side. Maybe if you can help us there. As the business gets bigger and the enterprise gets more scale, where can you see some of that density-based leverage in the cost structure?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah. I think it's kind of across the P&L, right? We've always said that if you think about our sort of corporate costs, the leveraging the sort of Atlanta corporate office as we grow. Certainly as we continue to expand in the Northeast, we're not adding the corporate overheads. If that's 8%-10% of the total, then that's a leverage point there. I think over time, Rick described just simply the leverage that we would get in the Northeast around filling out the schedules, right? Getting those terminals in around the Northeast to operate more closely to what the center of our network looks like. Those are kind of the leverage opportunities for us. I think there's also going to be continued focus on pricing around that and how do you effectively price finding that mix of business that makes sense in the network.

If you do a good job of matching that volume for the network, you can also have an opportunity to optimize the network behind it. How do you better utilize assets with effectively priced or effectively identified customers? I think there are multiple elements to that. We continue in that sort of trend. I think that's how we leverage and get that range of OR improvement year-over-year.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Yeah, I would also comment with the growth and the increase in length of haul. At times, we use purchase transportation to move the customer's freight, obviously, and get the service that you need. You look back, we do have some suboptimal purchase transportation. We're looking to obviously staff that with a group of drivers and move it more optimally with our own resources over time as well. That's a constant process as well.

Amit Malhotra
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Was there any benefit in the quarter from Last question, I'm sneaking one in here, was there any benefit in the quarter, I guess, from the disruptions at UPS Freight and kind of what they went through for a short period of time? Any way we can quantify that in the quarter?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

I don't know that we can quantify it, we did see some of that experience come and go. Ideally, one of the good things about it is the customers got to see what opportunity to do business with Saia. That's a positive. They see what our value proposition looks like. We did get some pickup help from that. I think it's largely back to where it historically, where the mode or with the customer set.

Amit Malhotra
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Got it. Thanks for taking my questions. Appreciate this.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Sure.

Operator

Once again, that is star one if you would like to ask a question, and we will take our next question from Matthew Brooklier with Buckingham Research. Please go ahead.

Matthew Brooklier
Analyst, Buckingham Research

Hey, thanks. Good morning. I had a broader cost question for you. Can you talk about your expectations for cost inflation in 2019 and maybe specifically talk a little bit about driver pay expectations?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah, sure. If you look at just the salary and wages line, if you look just at the drivers and mechanics, you're probably looking, and we do this by market every year, kind of do an assessment of how we stack up in markets. I would expect to see that number to be 4%-5% potentially for drivers. The rest of our workforce, I think you were looking at 3%. The other big factor you have, healthcare costs, that's probably low teens increase year-over-year. I think as you're modeling this, we've had pretty high levels of capital investment. You're going to see increases in depreciation and amortization expense year-over-year associated with that. This sort of an emphasis around where we're making investments, you're going to have that sort of inflationary cost that comes along with those investments.

I think the big drivers are those. I think the other markets that are other expense line items, things like insurance are not what we've seen in years past, so that's good. Those are kind of the big ones I think would be on that salary and wages line that I highlighted for you.

Matthew Brooklier
Analyst, Buckingham Research

That's helpful. As the driver market, I realize you guys are in the process of growing, so it's a little bit of a different game for you guys, but the driver market and relative availability, has that gotten a little bit better over the past, let's say, six months or so? Obviously realizing that more of the tightness is in TL versus LTL, just curious to hear your commentary on the overall driver market maybe from a recruitment perspective.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah, it's still pretty tight and pretty difficult has been our experience, obviously varies somewhat by market. Yeah, it's still pretty tight.

Matthew Brooklier
Analyst, Buckingham Research

Okay. Just one last one, if I may. Your earlier comments, it seems like you're pretty positive in terms of the pricing environment. Over the next 12 months, you did a GRI last year. I think it was effective in May. I think it was 5.9%, just curious to hear your thoughts on if, given the current environment, if a general rate increase could be in the cards for Saia this year. Thank you.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah, we tend to follow the market, as I'm sure you're aware, several people have announced a general rate increase. You could assume that we tend to be kind of a fast follower with the general rate increase, especially the smaller customer. You sell on a discount, you need to keep your tariffs market competitive. You could assume that we'll follow the market.

Matthew Brooklier
Analyst, Buckingham Research

Okay, great. Appreciate the time.

Operator

We will take our next question from Willard Milby from Seaport Global. Please go ahead.

Willard Milby
Analyst, Seaport Global

Hey, morning everybody.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Morning.

Willard Milby
Analyst, Seaport Global

I was just hoping to ask the, I guess, the Northeast profitability question again, maybe in a little bit different way. Can you remind us where you all are from that region from an efficiency or a density standpoint compared to the network as a whole?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah, we haven't broken out those kind of statistics in terms of density by market or anything like that. I can tell you that it's still in the growth phase. OR was below 100 for the quarter. That's good. We're happy with that. Compared to like a Dallas or Houston, those kinds of places, we have a ways to go. I think it's on tracking to where we'd like to see it ultimately. Those areContinue to be opportunities for us around building density around routes, and frankly, just getting tonnage through terminals. That's still an opportunity, but we kind of expect it to be in this sort of state.

Willard Milby
Analyst, Seaport Global

Yep. Production up there would be, let's just say ballpark 15% below the company average?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yes.

Willard Milby
Analyst, Seaport Global

Okay. I guess, you talked to being sub 100 in the region, I guess it'll vary by market or terminal location, but how long from day one opening of the terminal to that sub 100 OR. What's going to be the average timeframe to get to profitability once you open a terminal?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

They vary pretty widely, right? If in the case of Laurel, Maryland, that one ramped up pretty quickly. Newark was pretty similar. I think if you look at it, generally speaking, they're around at sort of 9- 12 months in general. There's a wide variation. The terminal that we opened in Harrisburg just recently, I mean, that's 150-some door terminal. It's a break operation. You compare that to, say, Scranton, Pennsylvania, those are two totally different animals. It's tough to generalize that.

Willard Milby
Analyst, Seaport Global

Okay. If I could jump back to the cost inflation question, you kind of split out the drivers from the rest of the workforce, but as a whole, collectively, should we think of wage increases similar to what we saw in 2018?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

I think that's probably fair.

Willard Milby
Analyst, Seaport Global

Okay. That's all for me. Thanks for the time, guys.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Thanks.

Operator

We will take a follow-up from Todd Fowler with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Great. Thanks for taking the follow-up. Just two quick ones. First, on the insurance and claims this quarter, I think you had made the comment that something along the lines of moderate levels of accident severity. You were just talking about insurance maybe being less of a headwind or at least the rate of increases relative to a couple of years ago. I know it's a tough line item to model, but just any thoughts on how we should think about insurance? Either in the quarter, was there anything unusual from a true-up standpoint, then thoughts into 2019 on the insurance line item?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

No. There's nothing unusual in the quarter. I think as we've disclosed, severity was down. I think what you're seeing, at least in the fourth quarter, you see the returns on all the investments we've made in safety around all the equipment safety. That was a positive impact. Now, could I discreetly call out this particular incident in the past would have been X liability compared to where we are now? I obviously can't do that. I think I would probably trend that over time based on what you see sort of our tonnage trends to be. That's probably about as reasonable a proxy.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Just my last one, can you share a range for depreciation expense in 2019 dollar amount?

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

No, I don't break that out, but I think if you generally-- part of the reason we don't is because of the nature of what we're investing in. The revenue equipment, I mean, you've got a range there of tractors and trailers that roughly $114 million of tractors, that's sort of over a seven year sort of number, and we'll take that in the first half of the year. Trailers is a $60 million number. That's a much longer depreciation schedule. The big wildcard there is how we deal with real estate, right? If a large real estate transaction happens, that's going to have a different impact on depreciation. As a result, I don't necessarily give guidance around that, or we don't give any guidance around it.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Fair enough. We can actually do some work ourselves, I guess.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Thanks for the time today. Yeah, thanks.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

No problem, Todd.

Todd Fowler
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

All right, guys. Thanks.

Operator

We will take another follow-up from Amit Malhotra from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Amit Malhotra
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Thanks a lot. Thanks for the follow-up again. I was just wondering if you could talk about the confidence level or the outlook for double-digit or maybe low double-digit revenue growth in 2019, given the strength in the yields and the pricing. More broadly, we've obviously seen the ISM data points take a big dip down in December and then bounce in January. Any anecdotes I think would be helpful with respect to your customer discussions, commercial discussions, what your customers are seeing, the mood, the tone, the body language anything just would be helpful given the macro uncertainty that seems to be dominating conversations.

Fritz Holzgrefe
President and COO, Saia

Yeah. I don't know that we have any real extra color to add around that. I mean, as I look at 2019, if I look at what I know right now, I know what our contractual renewals have been for the last couple of quarters. Those are going to materialize into 2019. I think that's a positive trend for our yield sort of top-line. You add in some modest tonnage growth and the expansion in the Northeast. I mean, I think that gets you to a kind of double-digit number. The world is in balance. I can't predict what's going to happen in the macro environment, but I would say that things are tempered compared to where they were in 2018. I don't necessarily think that portends to a bad environment.

It's just one we're going to have to continue to execute where we are. Customers, I think if there is a theme, maybe it's similar to that, but it's not a, my gosh, the world's coming to an end or things like that. I don't see that at all.

Amit Malhotra
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay. All right. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it.

Operator

With no further questions, I'd like to turn the call back to Rick O'Dell for any further or additional closing remarks.

Rick O'Dell
CEO, Saia

Well, great. Thanks for your interest in Saia. We appreciate it.

Operator

This concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.