Good afternoon, and welcome to SAIC's second quarter 2021 earnings call. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Shane Canestra, SAIC's Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.
Good afternoon, thank you for joining SAIC's second quarter fiscal year 2021 earnings call. My name is Shane Canestra, Vice President of Investor Relations, and joining me today to discuss our business and financial results are Nazzic Keene, SAIC's Chief Executive Officer, and Charlie Mathis, our Chief Financial Officer. Today, we will discuss our results for the quarter ended July 31, 2020. This afternoon, we issued our earnings release, which can be found at investors.saic.com, where you'll also find supplemental financial presentation slides to be utilized in conjunction with today's call. Both of these documents, in addition to our Form 10-Q to be filed soon, should be utilized in evaluating our results and outlook , along with the information provided on today's call.
Please note that we may make forward-looking statements on today's call that are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from statements made on this call. I refer you to our SEC filings for a discussion of these risks, including the Risk Factors section of our annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. The statements represent our views as of today, and subsequent events may cause our views to change. We may elect to update the forward-looking statements at some point in the future, but we specifically disclaim any obligation to do so. We will discuss non-GAAP financial measures and other metrics, which we believe provide useful information for investors , in both our press release and supplemental financial presentation slides , including reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures.
It is now my pleasure to introduce our CEO, Nazzic Keene.
Thank you, Shane, and good afternoon. Before discussing SAIC's performance and forward outlook, it is my sincere hope that each of you and your loved ones are healthy and managing through the continued challenges related to the pandemic. To those SAIC employees who have been directly or indirectly impacted by COVID-19, we continue to support you and provide assistance where we can for you and your families. Charlie and I have a lot of details to cover today, but I am pleased to report that SAIC continues to operate from a position of strength despite a challenging macroeconomic environment. We've been operating in this environment now for six months, and I'm proud to say our employees and our organization have adapted very well. While we have experienced isolated pockets of COVID-19-related impact, customer demand for our offerings remains strong, as evidenced by our positive business development and financial achievements.
Let me briefly discuss our second quarter results. SAIC continues to demonstrate a resilient and stable portfolio as evidenced by our strong revenue base, improved profitability, excellent cash flow generation, and the highest bookings and book-to-bill ratio in our seven-year history. Internal revenue growth for the second quarter, excluding the impact of COVID-19, was in line with our expectations at 3%, demonstrating the underlying strength of the business. SAIC exited the second quarter with the highest backlog in our company history, a proof point of our go-to-market strategy and acceleration of our business momentum. These are notable achievements considering the many COVID-related issues we are all navigating. In June, I communicated our focused response to the pandemic in three areas: employees, customers, and shareholders.
Our efforts continue in these key areas, but as it relates to our shareholders specifically, while we navigate the pandemic-related headwinds, our attention is on managing the business to meet our commitments and create shareholder value. We are focused on managing profitability, generating substantial cash, meeting our de-levering commitment, and continuing our business development and growth activities to ensure the long-term success of our company. SAIC is grateful to operate in a market that has been minimally impacted by the pandemic. We continue to play a vital role in our customers' missions across our broad customer set, but in particular, those responsible for ensuring our nation's health and security.
As the expiration of many parts of the CARES Act approaches, particularly Section 3610 that provides for the maintenance of ready state labor, we are hopeful and confident that the provision will be extended, allowing us to continue our vital support to our national security customers. Looking a bit into the future, government fiscal year 2021 is almost assured to start under a continuing resolution, which will likely remain in place until after the November elections. SAIC is accustomed to operating in a CR environment. We know how to navigate potential disruptions. I'd like to take a minute to discuss talent acquisition and retention during the pandemic. By making talent a priority and a key element of our strategy, we have maintained our ability to recruit and retain best-in-class technical talent while also benefiting from an all-time low in voluntary turnover.
We have over 500 direct open positions available, and we believe that SAIC provides a very attractive career opportunity in a stable market, providing customers with technological solutions of national importance. Speaking of valuable talent, let me provide a quick update on our acquisition of Unisys Federal. Unisys Federal contributed to the entire second quarter and has operated very well during the pandemic, similar to the rest of SAIC. As I have mentioned before, the integration of Unisys Federal is much less complicated than the integration of Engility, and I am proud to say that the work of the integration team has exceeded our expectations. We are infusing their commercial-style delivery model and go-to-market approach in key markets and with receptive government customers. While we remain focused on our strategic priorities, we also periodically review the portfolio for non-strategic areas to de-emphasize or divest.
During the second quarter, SAIC sold a few U.S. Department of State and U.S. Department of Justice international law enforcement support contracts. These contracts were obtained through our acquisition of Engility and were not viewed as strategically important to our strategy or our future. They were also dilutive to our margin profile and not financially material to the company. As it relates to our strategy execution, we are seeing the positive impact of past years' technology investments and acquisitions on our ability to cross-sell capabilities to new and existing customers. Most notable and exciting is the increased interest by the intelligence community and defense customers in our IT modernization capabilities, especially in advanced analytics, software and app modernization, and cloud migration. Our digital transformation capabilities, strengthened by the Unisys Federal acquisition, are also creating growth opportunities through increased customer and market access.
This is an example of the realization of our strategy that continues to guide our investments and priorities and will position SAIC for sustained profitable growth. Before turning the call over to Charlie, I want to take a moment to discuss his recently announced retirement. Charlie has decided to retire but has graciously agreed to stay until the end of our fiscal year, allowing for a smooth transition to a new CFO and a continued successful year as we navigate the pandemic challenges. I am very appreciative of Charlie's financial leadership over the past four years, and in particular, supporting me through my transition as CEO. His extensive experience and financial acumen have helped SAIC grow from a $4.5 billion business to the over $7 billion company we are today.
Although we will miss Charlie's passion and commitment to SAIC, we congratulate him on reaching this milestone, and I ask you to join me in wishing him well and celebrating his recent decision to retire.
Thank you, Nazzic, for the very kind words. This has been one of the most rewarding times of my career. SAIC has a wonderful purpose statement and mission to advance the power of technology. As a former Marine, SAIC gave me the opportunity to continue supporting our great country. I am proud to have been part of such a talented group of people pursuing a common goal. I'm not quite done yet. As Nazzic mentioned, I will retire at the end of the fiscal year and will focus my remaining time on two areas. First, I will look to close out another year and continue to deliver on the financial commitments we have made. Second, I will help ensure the smooth transition to a new CFO.
The company is operating from a position of strength and leadership, and I will do all I can to enable the future success of a new CFO. Now moving on to the results for the second quarter and our outlook. SAIC continues to demonstrate exceptional resiliency in a challenging market. We continue to build momentum across all aspects of our business operations, business development functions, and financial metrics. SAIC's results for the second quarter of fiscal year 2021 reflect solid revenues, strong profitability, free cash flow, and outstanding contract awards, all while absorbing COVID-19-related headwinds. Let me begin with our strong business development results. Net bookings for the second quarter were approximately $4.6 billion, translating to a quarterly book-to-bill of 2.6x, the highest book-to-bill in our history.
The most significant contribution to our quarterly bookings was the award of the AMCOM Software Life Cycle Development contract with a total contract value of $2.9 billion. In addition, and not contributing to our second-quarter bookings, we received over $1 billion of single-award IDIQ contracts, with one of the awards being a $630 million contract to provide IT modernization to the U.S. Air Force Weather Agency. The Technology Application Development and Sustainment, or TADS, contract was won as a result of the Unisys Federal acquisition. Not only were our contract awards strong, but our contract submittals continued to be robust as well. Even with the strong bookings in the quarter, SAIC's value of submitted proposals at the end of the second quarter was $20.6 billion, up $5 billion from the end of the first quarter.
This is the highest amount of submitted proposals in our history, and approximately 80% of the value of submitted proposals is for new business opportunities. At the end of the second quarter, SAIC's total contract backlog stood at approximately $19.4 billion, up 40% from the prior year quarter, which includes a funded backlog of $3.1 billion. Let me now turn to the financial results for the quarter. Our second quarter revenues of approximately $1.8 billion reflect total revenue growth of 11%, with generally flat year-over-year organic contraction of 1%. On a year-to-date basis, revenues reflect organic growth of 1%. Negatively affecting second-quarter revenues were approximately $65 million of COVID-19 headwinds resulting from the same factors that impacted the first quarter, a slowdown in our supply chain business due to lower operational tempo in our military forces, reduced FAA training services , and the maintenance of ready-state labor in our national security portfolio.
Excluding the COVID-19 headwinds, organic revenues grew by 3% in the quarter and 4% year-to-date, in line with our expectations for the year prior to the onset of the pandemic. Second quarter Adjusted EBITDA was $167 million and Adjusted EBITDA margins were 9.5% as a percentage of revenues. On a year-to-date basis, adjusted EBITDA margins are 8.6%, up 20 basis points from the prior year's six-month period. As with the first quarter, COVID-19 negatively impacted Adjusted EBITDA margins by about $8 million or 10 basis points. This was primarily due to uncertain profit recovery in our intelligence community business on ready-state labor costs and reduced volume in our supply chain business. We are grateful for the provisions from Section 3610 of the CARES Act in keeping our workforce ready and available.
However, offsetting the negative COVID-19 impact in the quarter were a couple of favorable one-time non-recurring items of $17 million related to the resolution of certain legal and program contract matters. As evidenced by our strong profitability, SAIC continues to operate efficiently during these challenging times, reflecting both the resiliency of both our business model and the government services market. Finally, and as Nazzic mentioned, during the quarter, we sold non-strategic international law enforcement contracts obtained from the Engility acquisition, which accounts for most of the acquisition and integration costs in the quarter. Net income for the second quarter was $51 million, and diluted earnings per share were $0.87 . Excluding the $15 million of net acquisition and integration costs, as well as amortization of intangibles, our adjusted diluted earnings per share were $1.63 for the second quarter.
The $8 million of unfavorable COVID-19 impact to profitability equated to about $0.10 per share. The effective tax rate for the quarter was approximately 25%, in line with our continued full-year rate expectation of 23%-25%. Second quarter free cash flow was $90 million, reflecting another quarter of strong cash generation. The second quarter contained one more payroll cycle as compared to the first quarter, which is consistent with historical years. The free cash flow generation continues to reinforce our confidence in our rapid de-levering profile. Days sales outstanding at the end of the quarter were 63 days, excluding the impact of the accounts receivable sale facility. We finished the quarter with cash on hand of $197 million. During the second quarter, we deployed $163 million of capital, consisting of $21 million in dividends and $17 million and $125 million of mandatory and voluntary debt repayment , respectively.
Additionally, subsequent to the quarter, due to the continued strength in cash flow generation and our outlook, we made a $100 million voluntary debt repayment, continuing our rapid de-levering plan and commitment. I should note that , as announced in our press release today, our board of directors has approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.37 a share, payable on October 30th to shareholders of record on October 16th. Turning to our forward outlook. As noted in our press release, we are updating a portion of our previously provided guidance for the full fiscal year 2021. Our updated guidance assumes continued impact from the COVID-19 pandemic at a similar pace that we have seen thus far and now through the end of fiscal year 2021.
Our previous guidance assumed lessening headwinds and a return to a more normal operational tempo in the third and fourth quarters, but we now believe the impacts of COVID-19 will persist through the end of the fiscal year. The increase is due to longer duration, not new or previously unidentified impacts. For fiscal year 2021, and including 10 and a half months of Unisys Federal, our revenue expectations are between $7.1 billion - $7.2 billion, implying organic revenue growth between 1% and 3%. However, this revenue range now assumes a full fiscal year impact of approximately $250 million from COVID-19, up from the previous expectation of $150 million, and is primarily associated with reduced volume in our supply chain portfolio. We believe that this updated estimate of COVID-19 full-year revenue impact fully addresses the risk to the portfolio as we see it today.
This updated estimate equates to about 4 percentage points of organic revenue growth for the year. The revised revenue guidance accounts for the increase in pandemic-related headwinds and the foregone revenue associated with the sale of international law enforcement contracts, partially offset by improvements in the strength of the underlying portfolio. With regards to profitability, expectations for the adjusted diluted earnings per share are unchanged at between $5.80 - $6.10. This includes a negative profit impact of approximately $35 million from COVID-19, up from our previous expectation of $25 million. However, due to the year-to-date profitability, we expect to offset the increased COVID-19 impact estimate. Turning to free cash flow, we still expect free cash flow to be equal to or greater than $500 million, also consistent with our previous expectations.
We are committed to the rapid de-levering plan that we initially communicated in February at the announcement of the Unisys Federal acquisition. We are confident in meeting our target net leverage ratio of 3.0 x by the end of fiscal year 2022 and have made significant progress so far. To that point, including the debt repayments through today, we are now at a net leverage ratio of just under 4.0 x and are ahead of our debt repayment plan. Nazzic, back to you for concluding remarks.
Thank you, Charlie. Before taking your questions, I would like to take a moment to reaffirm SAIC's commitment to a very important social issue, inclusion and diversity. We recently issued a sustainability and social responsibility report that details our emphasis, accomplishments, and progress in this area, and much more in our environmental, social, and governance profile. The report can be found on our investor relations page, and I encourage you to review the report to see the many good things SAIC is doing in these areas. Along with this report, recent events have been an urgent call to action and have driven the need to have broader and more meaningful discussions about social inequality and how SAIC can make a greater impact within our company, in our communities, and across the country.
We are taking this opportunity to build on what SAIC was already doing, but we also know we can and must do more. It is critically important that all SAIC employees feel welcome and have an equal opportunity to achieve their goals. Hearing directly from our employees about their personal experiences and challenges has only strengthened our resolve and commitment to build on the progress to date and reminded us that there is more work ahead. SAIC will aggressively work to ensure that we have a workforce that represents the best of our country. A broad tapestry of age, color, gender identity, and ethnic background. Operator, we are ready to take questions.
In order to take a question, you will need to press star one on your telephone. To withdraw your question, please press the pound key. Your first question comes from the line of Jon Raviv from Citi. Your line is open.
Thank you, and good afternoon. On the growth dynamic, appreciating the full-year impacts that you're feeling this year. You've mentioned the 400 basis points of growth headwind this year. To what extent should we be able to almost recapture that growth, at least in the next fiscal year? Maybe not all the dollars, the dollar commitment is dollars gone, but the growth rate. It feels like we should be above that 3% long-term number you've always talked about.
Yes. Hey, Jonathan. Yes, I would agree with that assumption that the growth rate that we would be projecting next year would be in line with our pre-COVID estimates. That we would be growing 3% or in excess of 3%. If you look at the amount of business development momentum, the backlog, the book-to-bill, the contract submittals, 80% of which is new business. There's a great deal of momentum that's generating. Yes, the growth rate going forward out to next year, I think , would meet or exceed what we would have this year, excluding COVID.
Got it. On margin, I appreciate that the 9.5% had a net benefit from some one-timers that you outlined. Combined with the performance year-to-date, what you're seeing in the backlog, getting rid of some dilutive businesses, you're well on your way, I think, to the mid-range of 8% this year. Is there room for margin to accelerate much above 9% on a more sustainable basis going forward , as you just mentioned , some of that growth momentum picking up as well?
Yes. Well, let me just make a couple of comments on the margins and again, normalize the margins from the one-time favorable impact of the $17 million. That's about 100 basis points for the quarter. The 9.5% would really translate to 8.5%. However, on the other hand, we had $8 million in negative COVID-19 impact. If you add back the COVID-19 revenue and the profit impact, you get to 10 basis points of improvement there. A normalized margin for the quarter is about 8.6%. We expect the slightly higher margins in the second half of the year. That's consistent with our guidance and our previous communication. We're benefiting from the Unisys Federal impact in the second half, with lower costs. We would look for that dynamic to continue as we move forward with higher margins next year. These contracts are being bid with
Higher solutions, more firm-fixed-price contracts, all translating into higher margins. Way too early to give any guidance for next year or any of that. Certainly , the way we're going would suggest that we are going into higher margins.
Yes. I think, Charlie, the right answer is that FY 2022 is not your problem. That's okay. Congratulations on your retirement. Thanks again, guys.
Yeah.
Your next question comes from the line of Greg Konrad from Jefferies. Your line is open.
Good evening, and congratulations, Charlie. Just wanted to follow up on COVID-19. Is it isolated to the supply chain, FAA, and intelligence, or are you seeing any types of delays on some of the ramps on some of these new contracts that you've won?
This is an issue of duration, not depth. We laid out what was impacting us. It was supply chain, FAA, and national security, and that's what we're seeing. We're seeing this persisting to the end of the year. We thought there would be lessening headwinds from this dynamic going into the fall. That didn't happen. The majority of this is the operational tempo around the supply chain. It just hasn't gotten back to the levels that we were expecting. The pandemic impact is just continuing to the end of the year. That's what the assumptions are.
This is Nazzic. I'll just add to that. Charlie did an excellent job of capturing those pockets that are impacted. On the positive side, the vast majority of our employees are working, and many are still working remotely. We've worked exceptionally well in concert with our customers to ensure that the vast majority of our work continues, and in many cases, new delivery models for that work. I think in general, although we are impacted and we've certainly outlined that, just important to remember that most of the company continues to operate just as it had operated before. Also , bringing in new technologies and new delivery models that allow us to do so.
That kind of ties into the next question. You mentioned that submitted proposals are up $5 billion sequentially , with 80% new business. I know you typically don't mention contracts that you're bidding on, but any color in terms of areas , maybe where you're seeing the most opportunity?
Well, I think one way to think about it is we've been sharing our focus areas and our strategy. If the areas that we see the opportunity to drive growth in digital transformation, IT modernization, cloud migration, the space domain, and readiness in the armed forces. It's very consistent with the strategy that we've laid out. We are seeing the opportunity to drive long-term revenue growth in those areas.
Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of Cai von Rumohr from Cowen. Your line is open.
Thank you very much. I assume we exclude the $630 million TADS award from your award, given it's an IDIQ, and therefore, it looks like you've got about $1 billion of unidentified, of sort of miscellaneous stuff other than the stuff you laid out. That looks like a pretty big number. Is there anything in particular that's worth citing there?
No. I think we've laid out in the press release most of the notable awards that were mentioned in there. There were some $150 million, $170 million , a few of those, but nothing one big time, other than-
Got it.
The AMCOM Software Life Cycle Development.
Let's see. You mentioned the $17 million legal gain. How much were contract adjustments or EACs in the quarter?
Yeah.
What do you expect?
There were no significant EAC adjustments in the quarter. The $17 million included legal settlements and contract settlements that were not related to EACs, but were related to our negotiating on certain contract terms. I would say that proved to be favorable. It wasn't EACs. The EACs for the quarter were zero. Year-to-date's $3 million.
Got it. Okay. The last one, it looks like you raised the COVID estimate for sales $100 million, the P&L impact by $10 million, and yet if the main area of exposure is the supply chain, their margins are way below average. How come it's $10 million on $100 million?
Yeah. The $10 million relates to the no-fee on idle time. That's been an impact on us for the first two quarters. That's extended till the end of the year. We thought that that would lessen in the fall, but that's where most of the profit comes from, the extension of that no-fee on idle time, and national security.
Great. Thank you very much.
Your next question comes from the line of Joseph DeNardi from Stifel. Your line is open.
Hey, good evening. Charlie, the book -to-bill in the quarter is very strong. That tended to correlate to, I don't know, north of 5% organic growth across the industry in the past couple of years. Is there anything from a recompete standpoint we should consider as an offset to that in terms of why organic growth shouldn't be quite as strong next year? To what extent are you all seeing bridges and extensions that may defer some of that recompete risk into subsequent years? Thank you.
Hi, Joseph. This is Nazzic. A couple of things. We really have, for the most part, retired the recompete risk as it relates to the rest of this year. There are certainly small things that are still out there. As we think about the remainder of this year, most of that recompete was retired, certainly with the AMCOM resolution in our favor. The way that I would think about it is the wins that we will continue to gain, the solid backlog as we go into the next year will drive the growth as we go into the next year. We are seeing, in some cases, extensions. That's a normal course of business. In some cases, we're hearing extensions as a result of COVID. In some cases, it's the normal way of dealing with recompetes at procurement. We are seeing some of that.
Nothing significant at this juncture, but again, I think as we look forward to the rest of this year, most of the recompete risk has been retired.
Okay. As it relates to Unisys Federal, can you just talk about employee retention there, what you've been doing over the past few months? Thank you.
Yeah. Absolutely. The integration of Unisys Federal continues to go very well in general. I think it's relatively consistent with the rest of our industry. The turnover rates have been relatively low in light of the impact of COVID. We're seeing very high stability in the Unisys Federal portfolio, very consistent with the same rates of turnover we would see in our overall portfolio. That continues to go well. I'll give you a little color on the integration. As I mentioned, we closed that acquisition, and day one was at the beginning of the COVID challenges. That is something that we've paid close attention to, and making sure that we communicate and we've integrated as successfully as we can. It is a much less complicated integration than Engility was.
If you think about the fact that we bought a portion of the business, not an entire company. The next steps for us as we continue to look at harmonization of benefits, and that's well on track, as well as the full integration of the financial system . Again, that's well on path. Very pleased with how that integration has gone. Very pleased with the integration of the employees and the solutions and the customer access , and so I just wanted to give you that general update as well.
Thank you very much.
Your next question comes from the line of Seth Seifman from JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Thanks very much. Good afternoon, and congratulations, Charlie. I wanted to ask first, I guess , about the COVID-19 impact. I realize that you and everybody else, everyone guides one quarter at a time. Is it that you see visibility on this persisting to the end of the year and kind of letting up in terms of the pace of activity in the logistics business or is it that it kind of continues at this pace until the end of the year and possibly into the first quarter of next year, depending on what the virus is doing and whether there's a vaccine, and this will go away at some point, but the date is not necessarily in sight?
Yeah, I would say that we're looking at this to persist to the end of the year. We're looking at the impact of COVID and the revenue to be consistent in the next two quarters. Year to date, we've had $110 million. There's $140 million more to go. It's consistent. The opportunity is that if this thing went away faster and the operational tempo turned around by the fourth quarter, we could see improvements. Right now, we don't see any further risk on the downside related to this. We've factored in everything we believe to be the case.
Okay. Great. Thanks. Maybe if you could talk about the future of AMCOM. Obviously, an important win to start off the recompetes there, the future AMCOM award opportunities , and then when you expect them.
This is Nazzic. Happy to. Again, we're very pleased that we were able to secure the first of these. There are several more that we are pursuing of significant size and scale. We believe the next one could be awarded as early as late September into mid-October, so we look for that one. A few more then would come as we close out this fiscal year, possibly into early next fiscal year. Again, we believe we're very well positioned. It does create an opportunity not only to secure our recompete and our current revenue stream, but also to provide for some growth opportunities as well in that portfolio.
Great. Thank you very much.
You're welcome.
Your next question comes from the line of Gavin Parsons from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Hey, good afternoon.
Hi, Gavin.
Given the 1%-3% total organic growth rate guidance with a 4% headwind, did you raise the 3%-6% underlying ex-COVID organic guidance?
No, we haven't raised that. The 1%-3%, the 4%, those rounded approximate numbers are there. I would say that the underlying strength of our portfolio leads us to the top end of that pre-COVID estimate on the revenue growth. I would say we're more there than raising any pre-COVID estimates.
Got it. Reiterating the 3%-6% ex-COVID, but towards the high end?
Yes.
Does that imply something like a 6% or even 7% growth rate organic ex-COVID in the back half of the year?
I think we were at roughly 5% is where we're targeting , excluding COVID, the impact there. Again, 5%- 6%. That's the higher end of the range that we gave.
Okay, thanks. Nazzic, just given the repositioning of the digital transformation space, intelligence- focused, what's the target business mix of those categories or those segments relative to where you are today? Thanks.
Just make sure I get the question. As it relates to our overall portfolio, what portion of our business is in that category, IT modernization, digital transformation? Is that the question?
Yeah, exactly. What it is today versus where you aspire that to be.
I don't have the exact number. I would say it's $1.5 billion-$2 billion , somewhere in that range. I don't have that exact number.
Okay.
Significant portion of our portfolio today, and it's a significant portion of our pipeline going forward as well.
Got it. Then , just quickly, the $17 million gain on EBITDA was that expected or considered in EBITDA margin guidance for the year?
No, that was one-time non-recurring. That was not in the guidance. That helps offset the additional negative COVID impact we have in the back half of the year. The favorable program contract matters and legal settlements.
Got it. What's the new percentage guidance for full-year, please?
We've given guidance as far as revenue, EPS, and cash. We've given, I think, pretty much all the factors you need to calculate that. Also, I mentioned earlier that that was a normal margin of 8.6% EBITDA in the quarter. We expected the back end to be slightly higher in the second half. I would just leave it at that for now.
Got it. Thanks very much.
Your next question comes from the line of Tobey Sommer from Truist. Your line is open.
Thank you. If we look at the pipeline compared to the income statement and profit profile that you're reporting currently, how much of a difference is there? In other words, maybe give a sense of how much more profitable the pipeline is than your current book. Thanks.
Yeah, I would say slightly favorable, because we're always looking to increase the value-added portion of our work, and I think these new businesses that we're going after, now that puts a lot of screening into making sure that these margins are higher and accretive. We're always looking for accretive margins. I don't have the exact number of what it would be.
Looking at Unisys Federal and that marketplace, could you tell me about what the pipeline looks like for that and any numbers you could throw in, when we may reasonably be able to look for a sort of contract as evidence of that? I say that , assuming that the TADS was a fairly well-formed bid prior to the acquisition.
You broke up a little bit towards the end. I'll try to address the question, but if I didn't capture it, I didn't get the last couple of sentences. I think what you're asking is whether the Unisys Federal acquisition is starting to influence the pipeline? If so, how and where? I'll address that. If that's not it, let me know. The answer is absolutely yes. In particular, as I called out, we're seeing increased pipeline activity as it relates to IT modernization, cloud migration, and digital transformation in those areas in our intelligence community and in our DoD pipeline. It doesn't mean it's not in the rest of the portfolio, but those are the areas that have the most significant opportunities , in addition to building on what we do in the civil agency space.
We're absolutely seeing the infusion of that, the solutions into our pipeline development. We believe that to be a true benefit and advantage of that acquisition. Did I answer your question, or did I miss something?
We have lost his line.
Oh, okay.
Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Akers from Barclays. Your line is open.
Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for the question. On the guidance, this is a little bit nitpicky, but I guess the legal gain, I think, was $17 million, and I think you increased your COVID profit impact by $10 million. Was there another negative offset that sort of made you keep the guidance the same for the full year?
I can't think of anything there. Like I said, there was underlying strength in the portfolio on the revenue side. Again, I want to emphasize that the $17 million wasn't just legal settlements. There were also some favorable contract matters that were in there as well. No, other than the underlying strength of the portfolio, nothing in there that I can think of.
Okay. I guess just one other one. There's the Infantry Squad Vehicle award, the win that one of your competitors took, I guess. Could you just comment on that sort of core part of your business, how that could fit into your portfolio in the future, vehicles , or sort of product-related business, something that you plan to pursue more at all in the future?
Yeah, this is Nazzic. You probably don't want to put too much color on any particular deal. What I can tell you is that the nature of that business for us , since we made the pivot 18 months or two years ago, is really around the engineering. That continues to be a strength of SAIC. That absolutely is part of our go-to-market strategy, bringing digital engineering and complex engineering to serve the DoD. That aspect of our business continues. Obviously, we were disappointed, but we probably don't want to say much more on that particular deal.
Got it. All right, thanks, guys.
Your next question comes from the line of Josh Sullivan from The Benchmark Company. Your line is open.
Hey, good evening.
Hi, Josh.
I think at your Investor Day , you put out some longer-term assumptions on defense outlays. Any updated thoughts on that outlook or maybe game theory , just as the November election approaches here?
This is Nazzic. As we sit here today with some of the headwinds certainly that COVID has created in many industries and certainly at our potential impact to the budgets going forward, as well as the election, that's all something that we're all watching, we're all paying close attention to. There's no immediate impact on DoD budgets. No impact that we see across the board. We also recognize that that's a potential, and so we navigate that. We watch that very closely. I will tell you that the nature of the work that we do, the areas that we've elected to emphasize and focus on from a portfolio standpoint, gives us some diversification, if that headwind does create some negative challenge. We feel very good about our posture going into this next cycle.
We feel that the work that we do, we know the work we do is mission-critical . Again, the areas , such as IT modernization, the focus on space, are areas that are enduring, regardless of different pressures that could happen. We continue to navigate it. We feel positive about it. We recognize that there's potential there, and we'll work our way through that.
Got it. Just on the 500 open positions you mentioned, is there a way to frame those, and what the revenue opportunity might be? What number of those are in the digital transformation areas you're focused on? Maybe what timeline could we think about for some of those positions being opened or closed?
This is Nazzic. As you would expect , with over 26,000 employees, we always have open positions. The way that I think about it is we've been very good over these last few months at leveraging the technology to onboard new talent, to recruit and onboard new talent, and that continues to be a strength of ours. I think it's a proof point that we're still hiring. It's a proof point that we still have needs. I don't have the categorization in front of me, but it routinely is a cross-section of a company. It's a cross-section of engineers, technology workers, and cloud engineers. I'm certain it's across the gamut of the types of work that we do and , for the most part, across the country. We think about it in that regard.
Got it. Thank you for your time.
We have a follow-up question from the line of Jon Raviv from Citi. Your line is open.
Hey, thank you very much for that. Nazzic, I was wondering if you could comment, now that you've had Dee Dee on the team for three more months, can you just sort of talk a little bit about , kind of , maybe what you're seeing together? What kind of changes or what kind of further pivots you might make, and if there's a timeframe around any of those changes that you're making?
Yeah, great question, Jon. We're thrilled to have her on the team. I think any time you can bring somebody on in a senior position with a diverse background and a diverse set of ideas, it makes us collectively better. We're very pleased to have her on our team. What she's helping us focus on is continuing refinement of our strategy to ensure that, as I referenced here, we're focusing on the right things, that we're investing in the right areas, and in many cases, it's been a good confirmation that we are. In some cases, there might be some slight pivots. I really mean that in the exact term, slight pivots, where we might want to emphasize something within our portfolio a little more or de-emphasize. She's led that charge for us.
As we've shared with you all before, we really do look at strategy in a very agile and dynamic way. She's continuing that for us. Then she will also play a key role as we look to technology investments and solution investments as we go forward. That's how I would really kind of put some color around where she's spending her early days. Again, very pleased that she's on our team.
Okay. Yeah, thank you for that. Just one last one for Charlie, just on the free cash flow trajectory. I understand reiterating $500 million this year, excluding the AR facility. Just any thoughts on the multi-year path there? I know you have the payroll tax ups and downs, so to speak. We used to think about $550 million as sort of a centering number over the multi-year period. Is that still fair to think about? Again, if we sort of clean out all the payroll tax stuff.
Absolutely. I would just say that not only am I reaffirming our expectation of meeting or exceeding the $500 million of free cash flow this year, but also reaffirming what we said last time, our outlook for next year of meeting or exceeding the $500 million of free cash flow. That's consistent with the $1 billion we talked about. Now, if you normalize next year and think that we have a repayment on the payroll tax deferral of $40 million. That's a normalized $550 million of free cash flow next year, which I think is consistent with what we had talked about.
Yep, very much so. Thank you very much.
Your next question comes from the line of Tobey Sommer from Truist. Your line is open.
Thank you. Nazzic, can you speak to the company's ability to ramp contract wins from a staffing perspective, and to the extent that this environment has slowed it, kind of how much?
Good question, Tobey. This environment has not slowed our ability to staff at all. We've actually remained consistent in our ability to hire, to bring on talent. If it's rebadging as a result of a contract win, whatever that is, we've seen no challenges in being able to staff. Actually, in some cases, quite the opposite. We're seeing great talent come from some other industries, technical talent that is more impacted as a result of COVID-19. For us, it's probably been more of a positive than a negative on that particular aspect of our business, but we haven't seen any of those issues.
Okay. If I could, one more, and I'll be done. How would you describe the pace of contract awards in the final federal fiscal month?
Yeah, I guess I would describe it as not really surprising. It was hard to predict when we went into the COVID environment, how contracts were going to get let, how RFPs were going to happen, and how orals were going to happen. The government has done an excellent job, for the most part, in adapting to technology to help make this happen. Certainly, there are some cases where something gets slipped; there are some cases where they might do a bridge, but that happens even in a normal environment. I don't believe there's been any significant impact on contract RFPs or contract awards. Again, there are pockets, but at the macro level, I've not seen it.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Shane Canestra, I turn the call back over to you for some final closing remarks.
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