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Earnings Call: Q1 2016

Apr 27, 2016

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Benjamin, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Southern Company's first quarter 2016 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Aaron Abramovitz, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Aaron Abramovitz
Director of Investor Relations, Southern Company

Thank you, Benjamin. Welcome to Southern Company's first quarter 2016 earnings call. Joining me this afternoon are Tom Fanning, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer of Southern Company, and Art Beattie, Chief Financial Officer. Let me remind you that we will make forward-looking statements today in addition to providing historical information. Various important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated in the forward-looking statements, including those discussed in our Form 10-K and subsequent filings. In addition, we will present non-GAAP financial information on this call. Reconciliations to the applicable GAAP measure are included in the financial information we released this morning, as well as the slides for this conference call. The slides we will discuss during today's call may be viewed on our investor relations website at investor.southerncompany.com. At this time, I'll turn the call over to Tom Fanning.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate your interest in Southern Company. We had another good quarter to begin 2016, a great start to the year. We are making excellent progress on many fronts. Art will provide an overview of our financial results in just a minute. First, I'd like to provide you with a brief update of our regulatory calendar in Georgia and updates on the Vogtle and Kemper projects. As many of you are aware, 2016 is a busy year for regulatory filings in Georgia. An IRP filing, 2 VCM filings, a merger approval application, a potential rate increase, and the Vogtle contractor settlement filing, which has been expanded by the Georgia Public Service Commission to review all costs of the project incurred to date. To summarize, first, Georgia Power filed its triennial Integrated Resource Plan, or IRP, in January.

The PSC is expected to vote on the company's plan this July. Second, the PSC unanimously approved Georgia Power's 13th Vogtle construction monitoring report in February. Later that same month, Georgia Power filed the 14th VCM report to be voted on in August. Third, Southern Company and AGL Resources received unanimous regulatory approval of our company's proposed merger from the Georgia PSC earlier this month, with all intervening parties in support of the settlement agreement. Fourth, Georgia Power has agreed to extend its current rate plan until 2019 and to keep base rates flat for the next three years. Fifth, finally, as you may recall, in January, Georgia Power filed an application with the Georgia PSC for review of the $350 million settlement with its Vogtle 3 and 4 EPC contractors.

The commission voted to move forward with an expanded process, which will examine the full project cost and schedule. Consistent with that February order, Georgia Power filed a supplemental information report, which provides compelling support that all project costs incurred to date for Vogtle Unit 3 and 4 have been prudent and that the current cost and schedule forecast is reasonable. The filing includes reports from several subject matter experts which support that conclusion. Over the next 6 months, commission staff and Georgia Power will review this information, which may result in an agreement this fall for the commission to consider. Let's move to an update on the construction status of Plant Vogtle Units 3 and 4. The Vogtle 3 and 4 nuclear expansion project continues to progress with multiple milestones achieved in the first quarter. The transition to Westinghouse and its affiliate as the single contractor is complete.

Fluor is fully engaged in providing on-site leadership to the construction efforts. We've seen increased productivity at the work site, including 24-hour coverage in critical path areas of the project. Expected near-term milestones include the placement of the final large construction modules in the Unit 3 nuclear island, CA02, and the 400-ton stainless steel CA03 module. For Unit 4, we anticipate setting the CA05 module and getting the 5-story, 1,100-ton CA20 module ready for hook later this summer. Let's turn to an update on the Kemper County project. We're making good progress on modifications and improvements to the refractory lining of both gasifiers and addressing issues identified during the initial fluidization and refractory cure out on gasifier A. We are also in the process of remediating issues with the lignite feed and drying system as we approach testing of the gasifiers using lignite.

In March, we completed the refractory cure out of gasifier B, reaching full operating temperatures while successfully operating the gasifier in pre-lignite feed mode. Over the next couple of months, utilizing gasifier B, we expect to achieve first syngas production. Later this summer, initial power production using syngas. We continue to estimate an in-service date for the entire facility in the third quarter of this year. Reflected in the financial results we released today, we have recorded additional dollars to account for the projected scheduled cost through September, largely to accommodate the revised schedule for gasifier A. I'll now turn the call over to Art for a financial and economic overview.

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

Thanks, Tom. As you can see from the materials we released this morning, we had solid results for the first quarter of 2016, reporting earnings of $485 million, or $0.53 per share, compared with earnings of $508 million or $0.56 per share in the first quarter of last year. First quarter results for 2016 include after-tax charges of $33 million related to increased cost estimates for the construction of Mississippi Power's Kemper County project. First quarter results for 2015 included after-tax charges of $6 million for the Kemper project. Earnings for the first quarter of 2016 also include after-tax charges of $14 million related to the proposed acquisition of AGL Resources and PowerSecure International. Excluding these items, Southern Company earned $532 million, or $0.58 per share, during the first quarter of 2016, compared to $514 million or $0.56 per share in the first quarter of 2015.

The major earnings drivers year-over-year for the first quarter of 2016 included retail revenue effects across all our regulated operating companies and lower non-fuel operating and maintenance costs, offset by mild weather and higher depreciation expense. Southern Power also contributed positively year-over-year as a result of anticipated benefits from renewables projects expected to be in service in 2016 and increased revenues from renewable projects placed in service in 2015. Moving now to an economic and sales review for the first quarter. Economic growth in the first quarter of 2016 was modest, and our retail sales results are encouraging. Total weather-adjusted retail sales grew 0.4% in the first quarter, led by strong residential sales, which were up 1.4% for the quarter.

Growth in our residential class continues to be driven by strong customer growth as a result of faster population growth compared with the rest of the nation. Regional market fundamentals are strong, and we expect our regional economy to outpace the national economy. The housing sector appears poised for a modest uptick, and the economy continues to add jobs at a decent pace. Residential construction spending continues to grow, driven by the integration of millennials into the workforce. Atlanta added the most new apartments in the nation in 2015, and even more units are expected to come online in 2016. Nationwide, Atlanta's multifamily forecast is second only to that of Brooklyn, New York. Weather-adjusted commercial sales were up 0.8% for the first quarter. This marks five consecutive quarters of positive growth in commercial sales, and we expect to continue this momentum into the second quarter.

Atlanta's office market vacancy rate was 16.2% at the end of 2015, the lowest rate since 2008. This marks a move from absorption in existing properties to accelerated new office construction. Industrial sales were down 1% in the first quarter. Our regional manufacturing sector continues to adapt to weak demand, and the U.S. dollar remains a challenge for export-oriented businesses. I think it's significant to note that some of our largest industrial segments experienced maintenance outages during the first quarter. We expect them to return to operation soon, supporting our positive outlook for stronger industrial sales for the remainder of the year. We are also encouraged by certain economic indicators that suggest an improving industrial production outlook. The ISM Manufacturing Index increased to 51.8% in March, signaling a prospective expansion in industrial production for the first time in six months.

New orders and production improved for a second consecutive month, with new orders posting the largest monthly gain since 2009. Manufacturing employment in the U.S. declined in March, but our service territory has experienced a strong rebound, with manufacturing employment up 1.8% year-over-year. All four of our states posted manufacturing job gains. Four of our 10 largest industrial segments saw increases in sales year-over-year. Paper and transportation, along with lumber, stone, clay, and glass, led the way, largely attributed to a continued recovery in the housing sector. Our economic development pipeline continues to be strong. There has been a 69% increase in year-to-date jobs announced compared to the same period in 2015. We have also seen a 19% increase in the year-to-date capital investment announced compared to that same period in 2015.

The geographic region we serve continues to attract businesses that are seeking well-established transportation networks, lower costs of living, a capable workforce, attractive climate, and low-cost energy. Before turning the call back over to Tom, I will briefly cover three final items. First, our earnings estimate for the second quarter. We estimate that The Southern Company will earn $0.70 per share in the second quarter of 2016. I'd like to highlight our dividend announcement last week. Our board of directors approved a $0.07 increase in our common dividend to an annualized rate of $2.24. This is our 15th consecutive annual increase and marks 68 years, dating back to 1948, that The Southern Company has paid a dividend to its shareholders that was equal to or greater than that of the previous year. The decision to increase the dividend isn't about the past, it's all about the future.

It's the strength of our underlying franchise together with our continued focus on remaining an industry leader through innovation that underpinned the board's decision to support our objective of providing superior risk-adjusted total shareholder return to investors over the long run. I would like to note that with the five-year extension of bonus depreciation, our expected cash coverage of dividends is approximately 10% higher than before the extension and 20% higher than our recent historical average. I want to provide an update on our financing plan. The year is off to a great start. We completed a $1.2 billion syndicated term loan for Mississippi Power in the first quarter. This term loan provides much needed liquidity to Mississippi Power. Also in the first quarter, Georgia Power became the first retail regulated utility in the U.S. to issue Green Bonds.

In doing so, they follow Southern Power, which became the first investment-grade power producer in the U.S. to issue Green Bonds last November. Demand for both of these Green Bond offerings exceeded our expectations. As we look ahead, executing our holding company financing plan is a key priority. This plan includes issuing approximately $8 billion of debt and a minimum of $1.2 billion in equity in 2016. Our internal plans, which were deployed last fall, have generated approximately $270 million so far this year. We will look to supplement those plans with additional common equity, and we are taking steps to preserve several options for achieving this. We expect to issue the debt and most, if not all of the equity, in advance of closing the AGL Resources transaction.

While these issuances are intended to accommodate all of our holding company needs for 2016, our financing needs could increase to the extent that incremental investment opportunities present themselves, including Southern Power growth projects. The Southern Company is committed to maintaining a high degree of financial integrity, and our financing plans are intended to support our current credit ratings. I will now turn the call back over to Tom for his closing remarks.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Thanks, Art. Following a successful and eventful 2015, Southern Company has entered 2016 with strong momentum. Our franchise business continues to perform at a high level, solidifying our position as an industry leader in all phases of the business. We are seeing continued progress on major capital projects, and our customer-focused business model continues to serve us well. Our pending merger with AGL Resources is progressing through the approval process. The proposed merger has been approved by AGL Resources stockholders and the Federal Trade Commission. We're making good progress with relevant state approvals, and we continue to expect the transaction to close in the second half of this year. We are also excited about our pending acquisition of PowerSecure International. Subject to the PowerSecure shareholder vote on May the 5th, we expect to close in the second quarter.

PowerSecure is a premier provider of distributed infrastructure, offering primarily commercial and industrial customers innovative solutions to meet their individual reliability, energy efficiency, or green objectives. Our business model has traditionally focused on making, moving, and selling energy predominantly in front of the customer meter. PowerSecure accelerates our opportunity to extend our make, move, and sell business model to the other side of the utility meter as innovative new technologies emerge and customers' needs evolve. In conclusion, we believe Southern Company is well-positioned for continued success in 2016 and for years to come. Bolstered by the strength of our 26,000 employees and their commitment to provide clean, safe, reliable, and affordable energy to customers and the communities we serve, we are enthusiastic about the future.

Aaron Abramovitz
Director of Investor Relations, Southern Company

We are now ready to take your questions. Operator, we'll now take the first question.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you need to ask a question, you may press one, followed by the four on your telephone. You will hear a three-tone prompt to acknowledge your request. If your question has already been answered and you'd like to withdraw your registration, please press one followed by the three. One moment, please, for our first question. Our first question comes from the line of Greg Gordon with Evercore ISI team. Please proceed with your question.

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

Hello, Greg.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Hey. Hey, guys. Good afternoon.

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

Afternoon.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore ISI

The financing plan with the $1.2 billion of equity, $930 million remaining this year, should we presume that's the totality of the equity that you envision needing to fund the AGL deal? Because when I look at the 2017, 2018 projected financings, you have no equity in there.

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

That's the plan, Greg. I did say in the script that should there be additional opportunities, either from Southern Power or other accretive investments, that we would finance those plans or any of those additional investments with a balance with an eye towards maintaining our credit support.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yeah. Greg, the other thing that Art alluded to a wee bit, but I think we talked about it on prior calls that we had, I forget, for Southern Power, I guess we have $1 billion of CapEx in 2017. We're seeing probably a larger opportunity set to increase that number in 2017. As Art said, to the extent we do see further investment opportunities, we will be supportive of our credit ratings in that.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Okay, because you have Southern Power at $1.2 billion this year. Then you have that dropping to $500 in 2017 and 2018 on slide nine. You're saying that you could theoretically be double that?

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

Well, it's hard to say what multiple it would be. We just have, as Tom said, opportunities for success.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yeah. Greg, I'll go to the CapEx. In CapEx, I think we're showing that we were $2.4 billion this year in CapEx for Southern Power and $1 billion next year and $1.5 billion in 2018. I'll bet you we'll be bigger than that in 2017 and 2018. That'd just be my guess right now.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Is this mostly in utility-scale solar, or is it a mix of solar, wind, and other sort of power generation?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yeah, it's going to be more of a tilt towards wind if you were going to make a projection on that. We'll have solar in there for sure. As you remember, we had a lot of success in 2015, way beyond what we thought. Some of those are CapEx numbers that will show up in 2016. Remember, now that we've had the extension on the tax preference item, some of that could push over into 2017. You'll still see solar. You will see more wind than we've traditionally done in the past, would be my guess.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Got you. I was looking at the wrong slide. I should've been on slide 16. Sorry.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

No problem.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore ISI

You guys talked about a $300 million earnings contribution on the last earnings call from

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Southern Power

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Southern Power this year.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yeah.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore ISI

You sort of weren't certain whether that was a sustainable level of spending, but you seem much more confident now than you were on that last call relative to the. Am I implying too much there in terms of the sustainability of the earnings contribution for Southern Power given this CapEx outlook?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Remember, it's hard to track because you'll spend money and then net income will show in a current year. I wouldn't go overboard on net income contribution in one year equaling net income in the next year. What I will say is, I am reasonably confident that we're going to spend more CapEx, and therefore, you should see net income contributions be a little bit better than what we had had in our kind of base case. What you recall is, to the extent there's more of a tilt towards wind, those are kind of 10-year Production Tax Credits as opposed to the single shot you get from solar. The net income profile following that CapEx investment will look a little different.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Okay.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Overall, we're seeing a very bullish market for Southern Power.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Awesome. One more question then I'll cede the phone. Can you talk about the earnings ramifications of the deal, the AGL settlement in Georgia for Georgia Power?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

We expect Georgia Power to perform consistently with the past. It's going to be a lot of hard work. Art's got some data, but I think, look, when we see Georgia, probably among all the states in the Southeast, as having a dynamite kind of relative economic performance. I think Georgia has traditionally shown that they've been able to hit their targets in all levels of performance, operations, customer satisfaction, safety, including earnings. I think Paul Bowers, that runs that business, and his team have shown their ability to hit their targets very well. We think it is manageable.

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

Yeah, Greg, I think it's important to note that the Vogtle MCCR tariff will remain in place. That's not part of the rate extension plan. With the economy being very strong in Georgia.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

With no major capital additions, such as new environmental needing recovery, they think that the rate plan extension is manageable during that timeframe.

Greg Gordon
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Fantastic, guys. Have a great day.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yeah, you too. Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Julien, how are you?

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, UBS

Good. They got my name right there. Excellent.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Well, I guess. I don't know. At least I got it right. Thanks for joining us today.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, UBS

Thank you, rather. Perhaps to follow up on Greg's last question, just to hit you with this quickly, why a little bit more wind in the mix rather than solar? Just to pick on that before going to another thing.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Just the opportunity set is bigger. I think with the extension of the PTCs, we're seeing a lot of interest there. I think you also see certain state policy-level encouragements. You're seeing companies getting ahead of the Clean Power Plan. We're just seeing a good market for it. Remember, as we have shown in our solar business so far, the fact that we can strike good strategic relationships with developers. You recall, the one that we've done the most business with in solar is First Solar. Recurrent.

Recurrent has been a great partnership. We're starting to strike those same relationships in the wind business. So we kind of have a favored position to be able to strike large-scale deals. We're seeing that develop. Got it. Excellent. Then turning over to the Vogtle side of things just quickly. You talk about, I suppose, a potential for a deal this fall, agreement this fall. Could you elaborate on what you need to see to get there? Just what are kind of the key mileposts, more importantly, perhaps some of the sticking points or moving pieces?

No, this process is set up, and most discussions of this nature are best held in a quiet forum. Let the company and the staff evaluate all the evidence in front of them and come up with what we believe will be a constructive result. That will get presented to the commission. The commission will undertake whatever's necessary to approve it.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, UBS

Got it. Just turning to the PowerSecure deal, congratulations, moving in a new direction. Just curious, how do you think about that in the context of the earnings of Southern Power and where you want to scale that business? How should we think about that call tomorrow after you close, years down the line as part of a growth trajectory?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yeah, man. It certainly contributes to our growth trajectory, but it's a really small deal. Despite its small size, we think it is important for us to learn. See, I don't really view this as a new business. What I've been saying pretty consistently is that this notion of evolving the make, move, and sell, pass electricity through a meter into where, because of technology enabling, because of customer requirements, think data centers or other customers in the industrial or commercial space which have enormous reliability requirements, which is necessary in this kind of new digital community we find ourselves in. Look, I think this is just a natural evolution of, particularly in areas where they are challenged with reliability or price or service, for customers to want us to provide them solutions. We may do some business in our territory, be glad to do it.

We'll probably do it under the brand of the operating companies, we have done some of this already. I think the ability to grow this business, to learn in markets other than our own, will be positive for us all. It will add to our earnings trajectory. I don't think it'll be enormous because of the small size of this thing initially. I think it certainly enhances our ability to compete in the future. We're very excited about it.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, UBS

Nice. Excellent. I'll leave it there. Thank you, gentlemen.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Thank you, my friend.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of James von Riesemann with Mizuho. Please proceed with your question.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Hey, Jim. How are you?

James von Riesemann
Analyst, Mizuho

How are you?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Awesome.

James von Riesemann
Analyst, Mizuho

Perfect.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Hey, Jim, bud.

James von Riesemann
Analyst, Mizuho

Art , can you just talk a little bit about how your thinking is evolving with the equity needs? I know the $1.2 billion, how much of that is broken down between internal plans versus the external dribble? Could you refresh my memory? At valuations at these levels, why don't you just go out and issue the rest of the equity right now?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Jim, I think we've said this pretty consistently since the announcement of AGL last August, was that we'll consider all of our options as we move through. We began with internal programs, but we always have the option in front of us to raise the equity in different ways.

James von Riesemann
Analyst, Mizuho

Okay. Switching over to the dividend, congratulations on that. When is it time to actually start bumping up the growth rate instead of just the absolute dollar amount of the dividend?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yeah, we talked about that, I want to say, when we announced the AGL deal. Given our belief in the growth contribution from AGL, recall, we increased our corporate expectation, our long-term growth rate, from 3% to 4% to 4% to 5%. What we said back then was, of course, this is the purview of the board, and it is ultimately their decision. We saw a pathway to increase the rate of growth from $0.07 in a year to $0.08 in a year. Recall, as Art mentioned in his comments, even since then, because of bonus depreciation and everything else, we are substantially better from a cash flow coverage standpoint than we were.

The financial integrity underlying that decision, even to increase the rate of growth of our dividends, has improved since we spoke to you by 10% and over kind of recent historical averages by 20%. If anything, our ability to do that as measured purely by financial integrity is even higher than what we suggested. I think we'll keep it right there for now.

James von Riesemann
Analyst, Mizuho

Okay

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Look forward to the rest of the year.

James von Riesemann
Analyst, Mizuho

Hey, one last thing on Vogtle. I know we're getting a little out of our skis here, when do you think it's time to decide whether or not you take bonus depreciation on those two new units?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

We are. That's in the plan.

James von Riesemann
Analyst, Mizuho

Okay. Just making sure. Thank you.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yeah, okay. Thank you, sir.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ali Agha with SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Ali, good afternoon.

Ali Agha
Analyst, SunTrust

Good afternoon, Tom and Art.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Hey.

Ali Agha
Analyst, SunTrust

First question. Going into the quarter, you guys had budgeted $0.53 for Q1. You ended up at $0.58. Where would you say things that came out better than your original expectations?

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

Yeah. Ali, it's pretty simple. You break it down. About half of it came out of the operating companies, and half of it came out of Southern Power. We announced a couple of new projects on Southern Power that weren't in the plan, at least in terms of the first quarter. With the opcos, there are a lot of moving parts there. We had, obviously, a headwind on weather. It was $0.02 below normal from an expected perspective. We offset that with non-fuel O&M and some other moving parts that gave us the other piece of the $0.05 outperformance.

Ali Agha
Analyst, SunTrust

Okay. On that non-fuel O&M, Art, you've been fairly consistent talking about that growing, call it 3% or so on an annual basis. It was actually down in Q1. How should we be thinking about that from a full-year perspective?

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

Yeah, I think on a full year, you're going to see the whole measure of it. In Q1 of last year, we had a lot of outages going on versus not so many this year. That's a big driver. As you do your plan, I think we're still in that range of 3%-3.5% growth. Remember that there's never such a thing as a normal year for non-fuel O&M. Just remember our historic, ever since, I guess, certainly since I've been CFO here, so that spans quite a bit of time, and even before that a little bit, we've always had this ability to have a flexible budgeting system here that takes out the volatility of weather.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

We've been able, I think we're one of two companies in history anyway, there's no promise for the future, where we have always hit our earnings. Now, again, I can't promise that. The lawyers will throw me in jail. We have been able to demonstrate our ability to manage our spending, and at the same time, show industry-leading reliability and customer service kind of statistics. The other challenge, Ali, which is kind of interesting, is as we now have committed to hold Georgia Power's rates flat through 2019, there's likely to be some impact on O&M. Remember, it's not going to be done just with O&M. It's the economic growth. We believe this all to be manageable.

Ali Agha
Analyst, SunTrust

Okay. As you point out on a weather-normalized basis, Q1 was up 0.4%. You guys have been budgeting 1.1% for the year. Is that still a good target for the year?

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

Call it a percent. We beat our PhDs in economy here. They're really good guys here. We have a great staff. Beat them up unmercifully getting ready for the call. They absolutely believe that from a bottoms-up analysis, when we look at some of our major customers, particularly in the chemical sector and then some other large sectors, with the outages that were undertaken, as those outages now go away, we will see industrial production and sales return to where we thought they would be.

Ali Agha
Analyst, SunTrust

Okay. Last question. Tom, can you remind me, the year guidance you have out there, $2.76 to $2.88. Had that assumed that AGL would close sometime this year and contribute? If not, does that give you some extra cushion within this year if you close AGL before year end?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

We have evaluated that without AGL. Remember, we said that AGL's kind of an interesting animal for this year. They get most of their earnings in the first half of the year. We're going to close probably in the second half of the year. Their earnings to Southern won't be much at all. When we gave you that guidance, that was ex AGL. You will see AGL start to contribute in 2017 and beyond.

Ali Agha
Analyst, SunTrust

I see. Coming in perhaps even earlier than expected wouldn't really move the needle for the bottom line this year?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

No, I would focus on Southern standalone for this year. Then we'll certainly give you new numbers for next year. We've already kind of indicated what the contribution on the margin will be from AGL 2017, 2018, 2019.

Ali Agha
Analyst, SunTrust

Right. Thank you.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yes, sir. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Paul Ridzon with KeyBanc . Please proceed with your question.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Hello, Paul.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBanc

Good afternoon, Tom. How are you?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Super. Hope you're well.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBanc

Yeah. Thank you. It seems as though you're getting a bigger opportunity set around Southern Power with the renewables, and you've kind of talked about this in the past, but what's the right size from a % standpoint of earnings for Southern Power to be?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yeah. If I remember this right, they're currently around 6%, somewhere around there. We think very easily we could take Southern Power to about a 10% number. Recall, 10% would include AGL, so the net income contribution could really grow pretty high if you're just talking about an appetite kind of number.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBanc

Okay. You've got some runway there.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

A lot of runway.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBanc

You said you think Southern Power will do about $300 million of net income this year?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yes.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBanc

And then just a little-

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Hey, excuse me, Paul, just real quick.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBanc

Sure.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Everybody should just remember that this isn't a merchant business. This isn't something that lives and dies in these so-called organized markets. We do long-term bilateral contracts, creditworthy counterparties, no fuel risk, no transmission risk. This is a credit quality kind of profile similar to our own.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBanc

Just what's happening in the A trains and B trains? What's the current state? Just review that.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yeah. We're actually reasonably happy with our progress. The refractory repair on A has taken longer, and there's been a few more things we found with refractory. I forget what they call them, rat holes or something like that. We've gone in and evaluated. This is not a high-tech kind of operation. It's just in a fairly close space, hour-intensive thing. Really, the schedule of A is really what has pushed out kind of from August to September. The schedule of B has been delayed some weeks, but we still believe that we will have syngas and ultimately electricity this summer. We're very happy with the way that's going.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBanc

B has been brought up to temperature and any hotspots have been addressed?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yes.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBanc

On your prepared remarks, you said something about the syngas, some issues that you found. What's happening there?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

I'm not aware of that. We haven't made syngas yet. The other stuff that you may be remembering, I'm trying to remember what you're referring to. Lignite dryers has been one. That's been something we've talked about for some time. Again, you got to remember, the lignite is essentially 40% moisture. As we move the lignite from the field into the plant, it goes through a process where we essentially remove the moisture. In fact, one of the cool environmental aspects of this plant is that it actually produces water. We capture the evaporation and use it in the plant. One of the feeders for the lignite dryer had blades, if you can imagine, like an old-timey, I always use these metaphors, but it's like an old-timey non-power lawnmower where you would push behind it would actually feed the lignite into the plant.

What we've done is expanded the distance of the blades of that feeder that would allow us not to experience clumping and some other things. It's just stuff like that. We continue to work through it in a rather pedantic manner, that's really what startup is all about. You operate certain areas of the plant, we make improvements where we see capable.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBanc

Thank you very much.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

You bet.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBanc

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Mark Barnett with Morningstar. Please proceed with your question.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Hey, Mark.

Mark Barnett
Analyst, Morningstar

Hey. Good afternoon, everybody.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Good afternoon.

Mark Barnett
Analyst, Morningstar

I know you can't talk too specifically about any figures. You kind of touched on the subject of managing around a settlement at Georgia Power a little bit already. I am curious, given the size of the annual investment that you're making there and again, some of the investments that you're making for growth. Outside of the nuclear recovery and kind of the other ongoing cost recovery mechanisms, what are your principal levers on the O&M front, on the capital front for managing under that?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Outside of capital, you're asking what levers would we pull to manage O&M, essentially? Is that?

Mark Barnett
Analyst, Morningstar

Well, O&M, yeah. Outside of capital that you kind of get the more concurrent recovery on.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Okay. That's outside of clause.

Mark Barnett
Analyst, Morningstar

Right.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Well, obviously, I think one of the things anybody would look at in terms of looking at O&M first, as you have seen demonstrated with us in the past, we put an enormous priority on getting for our customers the best reliability in the U.S., and we've demonstrated that for years. One of the areas that we look at is attacking from an O&M standpoint, non-reliability related areas. That would go to overhead. Any sort of thing in terms of corporate governance or those kinds of things. We think we have some capability to effectively manage reducing overhead inside our financial plan. That's both at the parent and at the operating company.

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

Mark, I think you also need to think about it from a capital perspective, bonus depreciation will certainly give a little headroom to that opportunity. As you look forward to 2019, that should be concurrent with the time when unit three of Vogtle comes online. It all fits pretty nicely into a plan as we move out in time.

Mark Barnett
Analyst, Morningstar

Could you remind me, with the settlement with Georgia, is there anything in there that you'd have to go back and reexamine if you had a timing delay from another approval? Is it pretty much Georgia is kind of set and tied up at this point?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

If you look at the regulatory calendar and those five items I enumerated earlier, I think we're pretty well committed to the three-year deferral, I think that, given everything we've talked about, we can perform as we have in the past, within that construct. I think we're in good shape in terms of evaluating everything else. I think AGL is behind us in Georgia. I think we're in good shape.

Mark Barnett
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay. Appreciate that, guys. Thanks.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yes, sir.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Paul Patterson with Glenrock Associates. Please proceed with your question.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Hey, Paul.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

Good afternoon, guys. Hey, how you doing?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Super. Hope you're well.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

I'm okay.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Come on, you've got to do better than that.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

Oh, okay. Oh. The sales on slide seven, were those adjusted for leap year or not?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

No.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

Okay. With respect to the changes and everything that's going on at Kemper, do you guys still feel comfortable about the 2012 CPCN and operationally being able to bring the plant on? I know there are obviously delays and what have you, but in terms of what you've seen so far, and I know there's testing to be completed and what have you, but so far, do you see anything that gives you any pause in terms of being able to have the plant operationally active-

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

No

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

as you guys had planned on? Okay.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yeah, no. I think one of the things that I think is distinguished by our operation at Mississippi and Kemper County Plant Ratcliffe, sometimes painfully, is that getting it done right the first time is really important to us. We're not going to rush and try and slam this thing in. With that, what we will do is essentially demonstrate a reasonable history of reliable commercial operations and then file the rate case. We think that's the right way to go. We continue to do everything along the way. This hasn't just been, "Oh, something broke, and let's fix it," and you know. We are making improvements along the way. For example, one of the things that we demonstrated beautifully during 2015 is our ability to run that plant on natural gas.

It provided, I don't know, 40% of the energy to the citizens of Mississippi Power or the customers of Mississippi Power, did so in an extremely economic way. As you think about the ability for that plant to provide not only electricity from syngas, but in a dual-fuel sort of way, to provide a really high level of reliability by supplementing any outages or whatever with natural gas-fired electricity, is exceedingly attractive. In my opinion, more than meets the obligations we were setting forth when this plant was originally ordered.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

Okay, great. The rat holes and the corrosion-

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yeah

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

we've heard about this with other similar operations. Is there any issue there that's changed at all?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

No, I think we fixed it. Remember there were some gaps from these nozzles. If you can imagine the riser, remember this thing, I always view it as a letter D, is what it looks like. The riser is essentially where the lignite comes in and then gets blown up into the air in this kind of beautiful helix design. You have both fuel stock moving into the riser, as well as a very intricate set of air-fired nozzles. What we found in the original fluidization test, even though the fluidization test went beautifully, the nozzles worked well, the material circulated amazingly. Remember, I was there the day it happened.

We found that because there was a lack of seals among and between the refractory and these nozzles, some of the material got behind the refractory in the hard phase and caused what we call these rat holes. These are really small tunnels, if you will, that were filled up with material. The way you fix it is you tear the refractory back off and put it back on. It's not a high-tech operation. What has taken a lot of time is it's a confined space and has just been time intensive. The more we've looked around the refractory, we found more of these rat holes. We've had to tear more of it off and put it more back on. We have not seen to any extent that degree of rat holing with B. Recall, I think B finished its fluidization test like in one day.

We learned a lot going from A to B.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates

Okay, great. I really appreciate it.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Yes, sir. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Dan Jenkins with State of Wisconsin Investment Board. Please proceed with your question.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Hey, Dan, how are you?

Dan Jenkins
Analyst, State of Wisconsin Investment Board

Pretty good. How about you?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Terrific, thank you.

Dan Jenkins
Analyst, State of Wisconsin Investment Board

Just a couple here on the earnings for the quarter. You had that $0.08 positive from the retail revenue impact. I was wondering if you could break that down a little bit in terms of jurisdiction or were there specific rate actions and will they like lap coming up or how should we think about that going forward?

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

If you look at Mississippi, start there, we got a couple cents from the Kemper in-service assets. Alabama had some CNP adjustments that I think were related to environmental assets. It is around $0.03. Georgia had a number of adjustments that in total was between $0.02 and $0.03.

Dan Jenkins
Analyst, State of Wisconsin Investment Board

Okay. On the $0.04 from the non-fuel O&M, I know in the past you've adjusted your discretionary maintenance to kind of match when sales are impacted by weather. Is that kind of what's going on here or is there something else involved?

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

On a year-over-year basis, there's lots of moving parts there. As I mentioned earlier, there was lower other production expenses. There were more outages in the first quarter of 2015 and the first quarter of 2016. There were other expense reductions in, say, our distribution area, administrative in general generally relate to reductions in pension expense and some other costs in that particular category.

Dan Jenkins
Analyst, State of Wisconsin Investment Board

Okay. Then I had a question on the decline in your fuel costs and revenue. I realize that doesn't have any impact on the bottom line, but just kind of thinking about that, is that driven more by volume or price or mix or?

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

Actually, loads were down quarter-over-quarter from a year ago, gas prices are down 31% year-over-year as well. It's a bit of both.

Dan Jenkins
Analyst, State of Wisconsin Investment Board

How about coal? Any impact from coal pricing or transportation or not so much?

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

I would say it's negligible. Most of the load is being driven by gas at this point, at least in the first quarter.

Dan Jenkins
Analyst, State of Wisconsin Investment Board

Okay. Just a couple questions on Vogtle. I know last year or last quarter on your near term, you had for unit 3, the setting the containment vessel ring 2, I was just wondering what the status of that was. Is that upcoming or where are we?

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

Yeah, when you think about unit 3, the next big things would be CA03 and CA02, which are the kind of the two big remaining modules into the nuclear island for unit 3. I believe the other ring will be added beyond that timeframe. It's my understanding of the schedule.

Dan Jenkins
Analyst, State of Wisconsin Investment Board

Just on your slide this time you have for unit 4, setting the CA05, I assume that can't occur until the CA01 is completed, correct?

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

No. Don't get any idea that these are in the order of insertion. 05 goes in well before CA01.

Dan Jenkins
Analyst, State of Wisconsin Investment Board

Okay. I think that's all I have. Thank you.

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

All right, Dan. Thank you.

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.

Operator

At this time, there are no further questions. Sir, are there any closing remarks?

Thomas A. Fanning
Chairman, President, and CEO, Southern Company

Thank you so much for your time here this afternoon. We will wrap this up inside an hour. How about that? That is historic for Southern Company earnings call. Delighted to do it. Off to a great start. Earnings are good. Our operations are good and a lot of work in progress that we look to have some significant announcements on coming up our next earnings call in July. We look forward to seeing you then. Take care.

Art Beattie
CFO, Southern Company

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude the Southern Company first quarter 2016 earnings call. You may now disconnect.