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KeyBanc Capital Markets Life Sciences & MedTech Investor Forum

Mar 21, 2023

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Thank you for joining us for the KeyBanc Life Sciences and MedTech Investor Forum. My name is Matt Mishan. I am our senior MedTech analyst. I'm pleased to be joined by Teleflex, who is represented today by Tom Powell, Executive Vice President and CFO, as well as Larry Keusch , VP of IR and Strategy Development. For the audience, I'm gonna start us off, but questions can be submitted directly to me by typing in the box below the video screen, and I can relay. Tom, Larry, thank you very much for joining us. I think my opening question is pretty straightforward. Just how would you compare the current environment and your level of visibility at the start of 2023 to what you saw over the last couple of years?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, we first of all expect to see several dynamics that should improve in 2023 as compared to 2022 and 2021. Certainly the divestiture of the respiratory assets removed a portion of the business that was subject to price pressure. We're probably in a little bit better position now to continue to drive price in 2023 versus where we were a couple of years ago. Broadly speaking, we saw an improvement in healthcare utilization as we progressed through 2022. The majority of markets that we participate in are now back at or above 2019 levels, and we expect continued demand improvements in 2023. We also see a stabilization in the operating environment following periods of inflation and supply chain challenges during 2022.

As for 2023, we remain very focused on our manufacturing operations and addressing supply chain challenges that emerged in 2022. Additionally, we'll focus on new product launches and the training of physicians. I do wanna point out that we are fully invested in our growth initiatives as we enter 2023 to drive durable growth for the longer term, and we continue to expand our presence in Asia and really drive opportunities in that marketplace.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. You just put out 2023 guidance as well as updating your long-term targets or 3-year targets. Just coming off of last year, how did you try to balance kind of de-risking some of the key uncertainties while also putting out reasonable assumptions where you expect the business to be?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, overall, we feel very good about our outlook for growth and for margin expansion as we look out through 2025 and believe we've put out a balanced view that incorporates, you know, some of the headwinds that we saw over the past year. Starting with 2023, we're confident in our guidance for 5.5% constant currency revenue growth at the midpoint of the range. We are focused on hitting a 6% constant currency days adjusted growth at the midpoint of the range for the first quarter. I will say that inflation, supply chain, interest rates, and foreign exchange remain somewhat dynamic. You know, as you're aware, we introduced our 2023-2025 LRP at our May 2022 analyst meeting.

Since then, the macro environment has changed considerably, which prompted us to update our assumptions for inflation and foreign exchange. Those updates reflect the, you know, the current environment that we've seen. In addition, we moderated our assumption for UroLift growth to an 8%-9% CAGR over the LRP to reflect improvements in patient visits to urologists and staffing shortages, over time in the U.S.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Mm-hmm.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

On the other hand, you know, we feel really good about our growth drivers throughout the remainder of the business and geographic expansion opportunities.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

What gets you to I think you for the 3 years, your low end of 6-7, and you're 5.5 for 2023, which means 2024 and 2025, you know, are above the 6% range to some extent or at or above the 6%. What gets you back within that 6%-7% range over the next couple of years? I don't think investors have really kind of priced that in.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Okay. Well, as previously mentioned, you know, we're very confident in our constant currency revenue outlook over the LRP. We're very focused on achieving the forecast growth rate for the totality of Teleflex. You know, recognizing there will be areas that will grow faster and some will have more modest growth. The midpoint of our constant currency revenue guidance for 2023 is 5.5%, which represents an acceleration from 4.3% in 2022 when adjusting for the respiratory divestiture. As previously disclosed, we indicated that we expect to deliver the lower end of the range for constant currency revenue in the LRP, and at that 6% growth level. In turn, we expect modest acceleration in growth as we move throughout the LRP timeframe.

The accelerating growth in the high-growth portfolio will be a key driver in driving the growth to 6% on a compounded basis over the LRP from 5.5% expected in 2023. In addition, we expect consistent growth of the durable core of 5% throughout the LRP, driven largely by our interventional portfolio, vascular product launches, OEM, and expansion in Asia Pacific.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. I wanted to hit, you know, first on the interventional portfolio, mostly part of that durable core. Are you seeing a resurgence in R&D from kind of Vascular Solutions in that like complex interventional space? Just for some history, I mean, I feel like it ages me, but it was a pretty sizable and important acquisition. What happened to the GuideLiner TrapLiner franchise, kind of, and just why wasn't that part of the high-growth, you know, portfolio?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, I would say that we remain very excited on the outlook for our interventional business. As far as R&D, several years ago, we took on an initiative to improve our R&D productivity across Teleflex in a program called Concept to Commercialization or C2C. We're now starting to see the first products coming through that C2C process and expect the flow of new products for the entirety of Teleflex to improve as a result in the next several years. In the interventional business, we have a nice suite of new products with GuideLiner Coast , which is a hydrophilic-coated guide extension catheter, Triumph, which is a CTO catheter, and WattsUp, which is a guide wire and pacing combo product, which are launching during 2023. We've also relaunched the Langston catheter after more than a year off of market.

We continue to focus on complex PCI and are building a presence in structural heart. As for the extension catheter family, including GuideLiner, we're pleased with the performance of the portfolio, and it is a driver of our growth in our durable core. Just as a reminder, the durable core makes up about 65% of total revenues. Of note, we have increased our outlook for the durable core to the upper end of 4%-5% over the LRP. As we think about the interventional portfolio, it's a key driver of that durable core and part of the reason why we're able to take that guidance up to the upper end of the range.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

What else is driving improvement in the durable core portfolio to that 5 from the 4-5?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, we have several areas of growth within the durable core, which is driving our outlook of 5% over the LRP. First of all, I'd say we've been executing well across our businesses that drive the durable core. The drivers of above-average growth in the durable core include interventional, as just discussed, select vascular access products, our OEM business in Asia Pacific. There's really a broad growth opportunity and performance that's driving that.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

What is going on outside of Japan and UroLift is what is going on in Asia Pac as far as your ability to kind of drive growth over there? Is that just a good end market for you? Or is there some are you making significant investments there that's driving more growth?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

We continue to invest in Asia. It's a good market opportunity for us, so we're largely working to build out our channels to get products registered. Obviously, you're aware of, you know, the UroLift launch in Japan and China, and we'll continue to launch throughout Asia. It's a really a nice market for us, and we'll continue to invest in that area because we think it's a key driver of growth for us.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. On the high-growth portfolio, 12%-13%, what's above that 12? What's above the 12%, 13%? What's a little bit below at this point?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

I'm not gonna get into all the specifics, the relative growth, high-growth portfolio. Rather, I'd say we should really be focusing on the totality of the growth, you know, for that portfolio.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Yeah.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

I'll take one shot at it. What about Z-Medica? You know, is Z-Medica driving growth above, how important is like, is the scale you have in emergency medicine to with Vidacare and Z-Medica? It just seems I don't wanna choose favorites for Teleflex, but it seems like the most durable growth vertical for Teleflex with those two products in the emergency channel based on what you guys do.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

I would say that, first of all, Z-Medica has proven to be a tremendous acquisition for us, and it's a, you know, a good example of our M&A strategy. You know, at the time of the acquisition back in 2020, we sized the market at $600 million, with half driven by trauma wounds and half from internal uses. You know, as a reminder, we indicated that hemostatic product sales were just over $66 million in 2021, and then we generated very healthy growth in 2022. You know, we did benefit somewhat from some stocking orders from the military. You know, in turn, we see a significant runway for growth as we gain market share.

As an example of one area, you know, we're currently pursuing a cardiac indication from the FDA for moderate to severe bleeding, which will help expand our market penetration opportunity. We're also pursuing product registrations in international markets to expand our geographic footprint with the product. You know, overall really happy with it. Certainly a good contributor to the high-growth portfolio.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

I promise not to ask this question if it doesn't come through again in next year, and I don't want to get my hopes up, but what are the odds EZ-Plas kind of makes it through the FDA in 2023? It just seems like such a good logical extension to what you guys do.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, we too believe it makes a good sense. I'll say that, as far as odds, I'm not an odds maker, but I will say that.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Mm-hmm.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

I can give you an update as to where we are.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Mm-hmm.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

You know, to address the FDA questions following the complete response letter we received in 2021. You know, we believe we have a good understanding of the pathway to marketing clearance. We're working through the questions from the FDA, and they're related to our manufacturing process. You know, as a reminder, we don't need to collect additional clinical data. It's rather, you know, documentation of that manufacturing process.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

We'll, you know, we'll keep you updated on FDA clearance, but I wouldn't assume necessarily that it's gonna happen in 2023. Again, not an odds maker, but I wouldn't assume that. I'd also remind you that EZPlaz is not assumed to have any revenues in the LRP, so anything generated, you know, would be incremental to that LRP revenue.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

All right. How is Standard Bariatrics progressing, so far? Did you have a good position in that channel, prior to the deal?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

I would say that, you know, we are making good progress following the close of the acquisition early in the fourth quarter. The sleeve gastrectomy market is large, with over 120,000 procedures in the US in 2020. That was obviously impacted by COVID, and we estimate that the underlying business is actually larger with a $300 million potential opportunity. I'd say inter-integration activities are on track for the sales force already trained. Now we have double the salespeople as compared to the Standard Bariatrics sales force on a standalone basis. A nice increase in the number of people out selling the products. We've had success with our channel-building activities. For example, we recently announced a GPO agreement for the Titan SGS with Premier.

We're also seeing good progress in our surgeon pipeline for proctoring on the use of the Titan SGS. I'd say that, you know, relative to our position in bariatric surgery prior, the acquisition of Standard Bariatrics, we had an established call point with our market-leading ligation clips as well as fascial closure and instruments. I'd say the value proposition for the Titan SGS is its unique design that is optimized for sleeve gastrectomy procedures for the treatment of morbidly obese patients. Over time, we expect clinical experience to show a reduction in stapling time and improve patient outcomes. I would say that, you know, just given the key differentiation of a stapler, it's really a purpose-built design for sleeve gastrectomy procedures.

I wouldn't expect the Titan technology to be used on other general surgery applications or procedures.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

All right, people want me to ask this question, so I'm gonna ask it. Ozempic. I over the last week, I think I've heard that, you know, at least 4 or 5 times. What is, what is the thought process on the addressable market, as Ozempic kind of rolls out and seems to have taken, sort of a unique pathway, towards the penetration of the weight loss market?

Sorry. Larry's gonna jump in here.

Larry Keusch
Vice President of Governmental Affairs and Corporate Development, Teleflex

Yeah, I'm gonna just quickly jump in, Matt. Obviously, you know, we're aware of the GLP-1s. It was certainly considered in our due diligence of Standard Bariatrics. Look, I guess the way that we think about it is, you know, we are really targeting the very morbidly obese patients. You're aware that the guidelines came out recently that have been changed. You know, really had been sort of 30 years old and the BMI, you know, was reduced from 40 to 35 without complications and, you know, in the 30 BMI range for patients with complications. That certainly helps open up the market more to surgery.

You're also aware that there's been some recent guideline changes on the pediatric side, again, you know, opening the door for surgical procedures in kids that are, you know, 13 and above.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Right.

Larry Keusch
Vice President of Governmental Affairs and Corporate Development, Teleflex

You know, history has the, you know, the history with surgery is very deep. There's a lot of clinical knowledge behind it. You know, as good as the GLP-1s have been, you know, we know that bariatric surgery has a greater reduction on a percentage basis in weight loss than the drug. You know, we think that they can coexist, but again, we're really just targeting the, you know, the very morbidly obese that drives that market assumption.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

All right. Thank you for addressing that. Take a breath. Then MANTA. Is MANTA a little bit shy of expectations versus previous plans? Those kinda TAVR procedures were growing at a modestly softer pace. Are you seeing any improvement in that market?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

I'd say that MANTA continues to grow, at a healthy pace. It really hasn't been impacted by the slowdown in TAVR procedures as we remain pretty early in the adoption of the technology. As we look at the business, the real growth opportunity currently is more about account penetration versus the market growth per se. We still believe we're in the early stages in penetration of what could be a $200 million-$300 million market opportunity for us. We're pretty bullish on MANTA, and we're seeing good growth out of that product offering.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Shifting to UroLift. You know, last year you rolled out UroLift 2. Did that enable you to go back to a lot of docs and try to knock on some doors with that?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, as you're aware, UroLift 2 is a more refined product than the original UroLift device. It's got improved visualization and the ability for tighter tensioning on the suture holding, so in order to hold the prostate tighter.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Mm-hmm.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

The feedback from the field has been very positive on the UL 2. The training of surgeons on UL 2 created a bit of a halo as they completed their cases to be certified. I'd say importantly, UroLift 2 conversion is now completed, and we're focused on training of new surgeons to expand usage of the UroLift throughout the United States. We trained about 400 surgeons in the US in 2022, and we'll continue to focus on training in 2023. I should just, you know, remind you that that training metric is US only. There are no foreign surgeons included in the tally, but we continue to develop the international markets as well.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. UL 2 is moving in the right direction. You have a new or updated, direct-to-consumer campaign. Kind of what have you learned from the previous campaigns, and how have you kind of tweaked it?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, first of all, I'd say that there's no change to the DT strategy overall. We launched a new TV digital campaign in February that replaces the previous advertising. The new campaign drives patient awareness for UroLift, similar to the old one, and we continue to see it as an important investment from that regard. We came out with a new campaign largely to refresh the prior campaign to reach or continue to reach new prospective candidates. The new theme for the advertising is a NASCAR driver having too many pit stops due to his BPH. If you wanna see the advertising, you can see it on urolift.com.

Overall, I think what our takeaway is that the DTC has been very valuable in building awareness about the product offering, and in fact, has had a number of patients going in to see their urologist asking for the UroLift as a result. No real change, just a new campaign.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

With UroLift 2 and with the DTC campaign still driving it really is just dependent upon the market coming back, you know, to more of a pre-COVID level. Just how has that been progressing over the last couple quarters?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, we did see some improvement, as we got through the back half of 2022, with, you know, staffing levels in hospitals and improvements overall in some trends. We're not quite back to where we were pre-COVID levels, and our expectation is we'll continue to see improvements as we go throughout 2023 and frankly, the LRP.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Then internationally, I think you guys made it clear on the earnings call that the scale is just not there yet to like inflect overall in 2023. Just kind of what percentage is international at this point, first, and then the second follow-up would be like, does something need to happen in Japan for 2024 to be more meaningful?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

I would say that, first of all, we don't disclose U.S. overseas mix for any of our business units or individual products. With that being said, you know, we have indicated that Japan and China would be kind of the foundation for international revenues for UroLift during the LRP, you know, with the potential for Germany to gain reimbursement sometime in 2025. We provided some perspective on what to expect in Japan. To help you think about international contribution, you may recall that we said Japan is estimated to have about a third the size of addressable market as the U.S. In the U.S., we ramped up sales at $15 million in the second year and $50 million in the third year.

You know, we're assuming a similar type of ramp in Japan, although at a, you know, a third the size. And I should say, as for Japan, you know, we're really pleased with the execution in 2022. Reimbursement is in place. We're scaling our sales organization. The pieces for the ramp in 2023 and into 2024 and 2025 are clearly there. In addition, we're focused on ramping up for, you know, UroLift in China, following initial cases that we did in the fourth quarter of 2022. You know, we're excited about, you know, the opportunities internationally, but really in 2023, it's largely a U.S. story on UroLift growth.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Yeah, switching over to gross margin. You have 250 basis points implied versus 2022 in the long-range plan. How much of that do you simply get from the respiratory divestiture, you know, being, you know, completed at the end of this year?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, as far as the MSA with the Medline, that does cease at the end of 2023, and that's a little over $70 million of revenue, and that's in the other revenue line that will go away. Given the very low margin profile on that MSA revenue, the elimination of it will drive about 100 basis points increase in gross margin in 2024.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Mm-hmm. Okay.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

We're looking at the 250 basis points gross margin expansion implies roughly 150 basis points in 2024 and 2025 from the underlying business.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Um-

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Really the way we'll drive that margin expansion is through mix shift, the announced restructuring program activities, as well as price.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Is there a lot of room to improve the manufacturing footprint with restructuring beyond what you guys already have planned?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, I would say that, you know, what's already been announced still has meaningful benefit forthcoming. We estimate $45 million-$51 million in savings between 2023 and 2025. A meaningful amount of savings yet to be realized. I would say that the majority of the restructuring is associated with manufacturing efficiencies, over 70% of it, you know, hitting the gross margin line. Looking forward, you know, we'll continue to seek out opportunities to drive efficiency across our existing global infrastructure. As we continue on our M&A strategy, we'll assess, you know, the acquired assets, whether or not.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Mm-hmm.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

There's additional manufacturing footprint consolidation opportunities associated with any future deals.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. From a supply chain perspective, is Tyvek still the, like, probably the most visible supply chain constraint? Does that facility coming online really alleviate some of the concerns as you go through the rest of this year?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

I would say that Tyvek is stable to improving, versus a more challenging environment in 2022.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Mm-hmm.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

It's certainly been a notable supply constraint for both vascular access and the interventional business through the types of packages used for those products, but we're starting to see some signs of improvement. We really are looking forward to, you know, a significant improvement in the second half of 2023 as new capacity comes online for the industry.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. On the operating margin side, you know, over the past couple of years, I felt you had pretty good control over discretionary spending that would support EPS. Do you still have pretty good flexibility on kind of what you're spending in a given year, you know, based upon, you know, well, it gives you a little bit of cushion?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, I'd say that we continue to, you know, tightly monitor and manage our discretionary spending, and we'll modulate the level of our spending, depending on the operating environment. You know, we continue to have flexibility in this area and, you know, can exercise that flexibility if need be. I would also say that although operating expenses are expected to grow faster than revenue in 2023, which is pretty unusual for Teleflex, there's a couple of things that I wanted to point out. First of all, really 2 headwinds, one-time headwinds that are impacting the 2023 growth rate. During COVID, we had a number of open positions that we didn't fill and kept them open, largely through the end of 2022.

Now, as a result of fully staffing up those positions, we'll have a full year's worth of expense in 2023 associated with that. Also in 2022, we underperformed relative to our expectations. As a result, variable-based compensation paid out at less than a 100% target.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Yeah.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

We'll reset those targets in 2023. Those are creating a meaningful headwind against OPEX growth for this year.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. I think you brought it up earlier, there's a definitive program to improve R&D. What's the right level of R&D as a percentage of sales for Teleflex over time?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, I'd say that when assessing the spending, you know, one thing to first of all point out is that you'd want to remove OEM sales since those R&D expenses are billed to the customer. After excluding that, our spending right now is about 4.5% of revenues.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Over the next 3 years, we expect to continue to increase our R&D spend at rates greater than revenue growth. I should also point out that that concept commercialization program that I spoke about earlier is focused on increasing the number of projects in our R&D funnel and funding those that can provide the greatest returns to the company. While we're gonna look to increase the spending, we're also looking to increase the efficiency of that spend. And I would say that, you know, we'll continue to manage the R&D process to consistently, you know, increase the number of projects moving through that C2C process.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. Would the divesture of the respiratory also would that also push R&D up a little bit higher in out years?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

It does. You know, as you appropriately point out, you know, just given the lower growth, lower margin profile of that business.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Yeah.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

We were not aggressively investing in R&D for respiratory.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. The R&D, I think the R&D, it looks as if R&D, a percentage of sales is gonna move up a little bit. That makes a lot of sense actually based upon on the profile. On M&A, just what's the likelihood Teleflex completes a meaningful deal in kind of 2023? Give us just how much more scrutiny do you guys place on ROIC and valuation in this current interest rate environment?

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, I would say that, you know, despite the, you know, the environment, our business development team remains very busy. Our pipeline remains active on opportunities we're assessing and investigating. We continue to evaluate late-stage technologies, tuck-ins, and scale transactions. We're looking at, you know, all sizes. You know, it's difficult to predict the timing, but again, you know, we're quite active. We do wanna emphasize that we'll remain disciplined on the M&A process regardless of the environment. No change to the strategic screens or the financial analytics that we'll run the opportunities through. While the cost of borrowing has increased, we've also seen at the same time some moderation in asset valuations. You know, we will look aggressively for opportunities through 2023.

you know, we're hopeful that we find the right opportunity for us and can move forward with it.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. With that, Tom, we're brushing up right against the time. Thank you and Larry both, for supporting the conference, and hope the rest of the day goes well with meetings.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Well, thank you. It's a pleasure to be here and good to spend some time with you, Matt.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Definitely.

Thomas Powell
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Teleflex

Thanks, Matt.

Matt Mishan
Director, Senior Equity Research Analyst – Medical Technology, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Thanks, Larry.

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