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Earnings Call: Q4 2022

Feb 1, 2023

Operator

Good morning. Following opening remarks, the earnings call will be open for questions via the conference line by pressing one followed by four and via Twitter by sending a tweet to @TMobileIR or @MikeSievert using #TMUS. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Jud Henry, Senior Vice President and Head of Investor Relations for T-Mobile US. Please go ahead, sir.

Jud Henry
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, T-Mobile

All right. Welcome to T-Mobile's Q4 and full year 2022 earnings call. Joining me on the call today are Mike Sievert, our President and CEO, Peter Osvaldik, our CFO, as well as other members of the senior leadership team. During this call, we will make forward-looking statements which involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from our forward-looking statements. We provide a comprehensive list of risk factors in our SEC filings, which I encourage you to review. Our earnings release, investor fact book, and other documents related to our results, as well as reconciliations between GAAP and non-GAAP results discussed on this call, can be found in the quarterly results section of the investor relations website. With that, let me turn the call over to Mike.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Okay. Thanks, Jud. Hi, everybody. As you can see, we're here in New York City with the whole senior team. I am very much looking forward to talking about 2022 and a look ahead to what I think is going to be an even more exciting future. 2022 was a record year for our company. It was our best year ever. We welcomed more customers to the Un-carrier than ever before in our history. We translated this customer growth to industry-leading financial growth, finishing with a strong Q4. Our T-Mobile team delivered at or above the high end of our guidance across the board. 2022 was also the biggest investment year in our history. By accelerating these investments, we rewrote the competitive dynamic on network competition for good. Laid the foundation for a highly capital efficient run rate business beginning this year.

When I took responsibility as CEO almost three years ago, I spoke to you about an opportunity we saw that if we could execute well, we could position T-Mobile to be the first company in our space to simultaneously offer the best network and the best value, breaking a decades-old forced choice on consumers and businesses. Well, the results are in with the latest network awards, and we've done it. T-Mobile is not only the 5G leader, but now the overall network leader. This opens big growth pathways for our future. Along the way, we successfully completed the Sprint customer migration and network shutdown faster than planned, while also delivering industry-leading growth in both customers and cash flows through our differentiated and profitable growth strategy. We launched our most ambitious ESG initiatives ever.

Our financial outcomes allowed us to accelerate our network deployments and begin share repurchases earlier than planned. Looking ahead to 2023, we're very confident in our differentiated strategy. In fact, we're on track to meet or exceed all of the aspirations for this year that we shared with you way back at our Analyst Day in early 2021. I'm excited to talk more about all of this today. Let's start with our merger integration. Back when we closed the merger, few people would have thought that we could shut down the Sprint network faster than planned and deliver the lowest churn in our history at the same time. That's exactly what our team did. We moved all Sprint customers off the network and completed the decom of Sprint sites all within 2.5 years.

Not only that, we had our best postpaid phone churn year in the company's history at just 0.88. We were the only one in the industry to deliver year-over-year improvement for full year 2022. Diving in the network. While T-Mobile has been the clear 5G leader for years, we can now say that T-Mobile has the best overall network in the United States. That is a big statement. For the first time ever, T-Mobile won a clean sweep across every single overall network category in Ookla's recent report. Recent data from Opensignal and umlaut also show T-Mobile as the clear leader with over 12 billion data points across these network coverage and performance tests.

The facts show T-Mobile is the new network leader, and this brings with it an exciting new opportunity, convincing people that this 30 year forced choice between network and value is gone when you choose T-Mobile. This is no small task, but our results show that more and more people are beginning to notice, and they're choosing T-Mobile. In fact, our results in 2022 demonstrated how differentiated and effective our growth strategy really is. Kind of feels like deja vu when I think back to this time last year and everyone was worried about what would happen when industry growth began to normalize. I sense that's top of mind for everyone again as we enter 2023. While it didn't show up immediately last year, the industry did see lower year-over-year growth in the second half. Guess what?

Our unique ability to offer customers both the best network and the best value across multiple new and under-penetrated segments of the market led to T-Mobile's best growth year ever with two of our best quarters since the merger coming in the second half, even as market growth began to normalize. We posted a record 1.4 million postpaid account net adds, the highest in company history and the highest reported in the industry once again. We're winning the highest share of switching decisions in the industry through our core growth strategies. We delivered our highest ever postpaid net adds of over 6.4 million above the high end of our recently raised guidance. This included our highest postpaid phone net adds since the merger with an industry-leading 3.1 million. We've explained it before.

Our strategy is differentiated and durable because it's driven by taking share in places where we're massively under-penetrated relative to the competition and where we now have the winning hand, including T-Mobile for Business, where we just delivered one of our highest ever phone net add quarters in Q4. We're clearly having an impact on the incumbents, as you can see in Verizon's highest ever business churn in 2022. In the top 100 markets for consumer, we're winning with prime network seekers who increasingly recognize that T-Mobile offers the best combination of network coverage and capacity for their needs and at a lower cost. We're only beginning to tap into this new opportunity.

In smaller markets in rural areas where we're bringing a better value proposition and a better network to new geographies we really didn't play in before, we're capturing a win share of switchers in the high thirties, which says a lot because in many of these places we're only just getting started. In addition, we added two million high-speed internet customers in our first full year since our commercial launch. In fact, T-Mobile had more broadband net adds in 2022 than AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, and Charter combined. This is a powerful new phenomenon for our brand in addition to being good business. Not only did we deliver industry-leading customer growth, but our focus on profitable growth translated into industry best financial performance, with Core Adjusted EBITDA up 12% year-over-year and free cash flow up 36%.

The investments we've made in 2022, including in our cybersecurity capabilities, showed up in a critical way a few weeks ago. I want to take a moment to address the recent cyber incident. After identifying a criminal attempt to access our data through an API, we shut it down within 24 hours. More importantly, our systems and policies protected the most sensitive kinds of customer data from being accessed. We take this issue very seriously. While I'm disappointed that the criminal actor was able to obtain any customer information, we are confident that our aggressive cybersecurity plan, working with the support of some of the world's experts, will allow us to achieve our goal of becoming second to none in this area. Before I wrap up, I want to touch on some of the ways we're building a more connected and sustainable future.

Nearly three years ago, we launched our digital divide initiative called Project 10Million to bring connectivity to underserved students nationwide with free or highly subsidized service. I am proud to say we're now more than halfway to achieving our goal. To date, we've provided $4.8 billion in services and connected more than 5.3 million students, and we're not slowing down. We're also working hard to create a more sustainable future, recently committing to our most ambitious sustainability goal yet: to achieve net zero emissions across our entire carbon footprint by 2040. This makes T-Mobile one of only four Fortune 100 companies to do so.

Our work in this space is being recognized, including being named in the top 20 of JUST Capital's 2023 rankings, which measures companies against metrics that matter to our communities, including environmental impact, where we ranked number one in our industry. Let me wrap up with some comments on 2023 and what's ahead. With these record results, we've clearly shown that our differentiated strategy has lots of room to run, I strongly believe that this will prove to be the case even as industry as a whole is seeing moderating growth and potentially a challenging macroeconomic environment. It may be especially true in that case, as our unique high-quality positioning is proving remarkably well suited to the times.

We believe 2023 will also be a year in which we begin to see the payoff in terms of EBITDA and massive cash flow expansion of years of work on merger integration, synergy attainment, and the most ambitious network build in U.S. history, all of which are mostly behind us now, and in ongoing differentiated profitable growth, which is the durable result in front of us. I could not be more proud of this team and our employees, and I am so excited for all that's ahead in 2023 and beyond. Peter, over to you to talk about our key financial highlights and our guidance for 2023.

Peter Osvaldik
CFO, T-Mobile

Awesome. Thanks, Mike. As you can see, our 2022 results highlighted our strong execution in accelerating the merger integration while leveraging our network leadership to deliver industry-leading growth in both traditional postpaid and broadband customers. This translated into industry-leading postpaid service revenue growth of 8% in 2022. We delivered Core Adjusted EBITDA of $26.4 billion, up 12% and reaching a record high and at the high end of our recently raised guidance. We realized approximately $6 billion in synergies in 2022, or roughly the total run rate synergies expected in the original merger plan in 2018. Our strong margin expansion also unlocked rapid free cash flow growth, which grew at an industry-best 36% year-over-year to $7.7 billion, and that's even after funding our peak CapEx year in 2022.

This strong financial performance allowed us to commence our share buybacks ahead of our original 2023 timeline. We repurchased 16.5 million shares for $2.3 billion in Q4, bringing the cumulative total repurchase to 21.4 million shares for $3 billion in 2022. This is such an exciting start to this opportunity to deliver significant shareholder value. Let's talk about how our great execution and investments in 2022 set us up for another strong year of growth in 2023. We expect total postpaid net additions to be between 5 million-5.5 million, reflecting continued focus on profitable growth as we execute our differentiated growth strategy, even while expecting total industry net additions to be down versus 2022. This guidance assumes roughly half of postpaid net adds coming from phones.

That profitable growth leads to Core Adjusted EBITDA that is expected to be between $28.7 billion and $29.2 billion, or up 10% at the midpoint based on continued growth in service revenues and merger synergies and above our Analyst Day guidance for 2023. This excludes leasing revenues of approximately $300 million as we transition substantially all remaining customers off device leasing by year-end. Our merger synergies are expected to further ramp to between $7.2 billion-$7.5 billion in 2023, approaching the full run rate synergy target from our Analyst Day a year ahead of schedule.

Thanks to great execution by the teams, we not only delivered accelerated synergies, but now also expect higher full run rate synergies of approximately $8 billion in 2024, of which approximately $2 billion is avoided cost, which is consistent with the amount expected at our Analyst Day. With the major integration work now behind us, we expect merger-related costs, which are not included in adjusted or Core Adjusted EBITDA, to be approximately $1 billion before taxes and is expected to be front-end loaded with roughly 40% expected in Q1. This is expected to be the last year of material merger-related costs from a P&L perspective.

Just as we had highlighted at Analyst Day, cash payments related to merger costs have underrun the P&L recognition to date and are expected to invert and be between $1.5 billion-$2 billion for 2023, with almost half of that total hitting in Q1. Net cash provided by operating activities, including these payments for merger-related costs, is expected to be in the range of $17.8 billion-$18.3 billion. We expect cash CapEx to be between $9.4 billion and $9.7 billion as we deliver a capital efficiency unmatched in our industry on the back of our network integration and 5G leadership. I would expect this to be a bit more weighted towards the first half of the year. Our capital-efficient and data-informed Customer-Driven Coverage approach guides us as we continue to enhance and further expand our network.

Together, this results in expected free cash flow, including payments for merger-related costs, to be in the range of $13.1 billion-$13.6 billion. This is up approximately 75% over last year, thanks to our margin expansion and capital efficiency, does not assume any material net cash inflows from securitization. This also represents a free cash flow to service revenue margin multiple percentage points higher than peers. Turning now to taxes. We expect our full year effective tax rate to be between 24% and 26%. Finally, as we continue to execute our strategy of winning and expanding account relationships, we expect full-year postpaid ARPA to be up approximately 1% in 2023 as we continuously win and then deepen our account relationships.

Altogether, we expect 2023 to be another year of profitable growth and even greater free cash flow expansion as we continue to extend our network leadership and further scale our differentiated growth opportunities. With that, I will now turn the call back to Jud to begin the Q&A. Jud?

Jud Henry
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, T-Mobile

All right. Let's get to your questions. You can ask a question via the phone by pressing one followed by four, via Twitter by sending a tweet to @TMobileIR, @MikeSievert, using #TMUS. We'll start with a question on the phone. Operator?

Operator

Certainly. Our first question comes from Craig Moffett with SVB MoffettNathanson. You may proceed with your question.

Jud Henry
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, T-Mobile

Hi, Craig.

Craig Moffett
Partner and Senior Analyst, MoffettNathanson

Hi. Thank you. Hi, good morning. Thank you. Two questions, if I could. One is you've now had a number of announcements about dabbling in the wireline market. I wonder if you could just talk about your wireline ambitions and maybe bridge from that into the role that you think FWA plays in making bundled offers. Is that something that you need to have nationally? If so, how do you think you get there on the wireline side? Second, just a financial question for Peter. I wonder if you could just talk about the pacing of share repurchases. I understand that there's some debt pay down that was always expected to come first. Now that we're sort of well into the repurchase cycle, what does the pacing of that look like over the next year or couple of years?

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Well, I'll start, Craig. Let me start by telling you a little bit about how we view the convergence space. Obviously, to the premise of your question, we are competing very ambitiously in this space with more new broadband net additions in 2022 than the rest of the industry combined. We're very happy with our position, and it has lots of room to run for years to come. On the other hand, you know, the larger question is whether or not we're doing this for offensive reasons or defensive reasons. You know, our view is that the market has shown that customers will accept bundles, but it's far from certain whether bundles are something that they will require. We're not interested in convergence because we feel like some flank is exposed that we have to protect.

We're interested in convergence because we have a lot to offer, and we have a great brand, great capabilities, a great team, great distribution, and the ability to add value to the space as you're seeing in our present success in home broadband through 5G. We're very interested in the space. I'll tell you know, we haven't decided whether or not that would translate into augmenting that strategy with a wireline approach. If we did it would be because it's good business, not because we feel like there's some flank that we have exposed that we need to protect. You know, while we haven't made a decision about it, I can tell you a few things that we've decided not to do, and I think that's important for people to understand.

I personally have no interest in having some kind of major change to our strategy as a company or the financial outcomes that'll flow from that strategy or the shareholder remuneration that flows from our financial outcomes. We're on a mission to become the best in the world at wireless, and we're pursuing that mission ambitiously and so far very successfully. That is the place where, you know, the future lies and where we wanna be. I'm interested in delivering all of the financial outcomes that we promised you that flow from that business plan and the shareholder remuneration and share buybacks that flow from that, and we're not interested in something that would cause a material change in any of that. Secondly, because of that, I think we've looked at it and said, if we got involved, we would do it most likely with partners.

It would just be smart to do it with partners versus by ourselves. That means whether it's purely through a partnership or if we have an ownership stake of some kind, it would be off balance sheet and again, would not be at a level that would have a material change in terms of who we are. Then finally, as I said, we'd be interested in it if it's something that we could add value and make the market better for customers and make some money doing it directly for the merits of the business, not necessarily for the merits of how it would attribute to wireless. You know, that's because consumers are sort of voting with their feet.

So far, we haven't seen a benefit to convergence that really translates into consumer value beyond just a discount. There are plenty of ways to deliver customers discounts when you have the superior assets in wireless, superior balance sheet in wireless, the best overall network, and a tradition of a brand that delivers outstanding value. Hopefully that helps clear that one up.

Peter Osvaldik
CFO, T-Mobile

Yeah. Then on share buybacks, Craig, I think the most important thing is the strategy hasn't changed other than, of course, the ability with the financial performance of the company to initiate those earlier. We couldn't have been more excited to get that first $14 billion through Q3 approved, and you saw we delivered $3 billion of that in 2022. We continue to have line of sight to the up to $60 billion. Nothing's changed with regards to the strategy. Very excited about the cash flow generation of the business and the flexibility that that provides. You know, if you think about shaping, of course, I'm not gonna talk about day-to-day or week-to-week shaping for natural reasons, but of course, you've got the growth of Core Adjusted EBITDA coming throughout the years, which gives you financial flexibility.

As you know, we're very prudent in just the leverage target that we've set overall. Again, nothing's changed with respect to the strategy. Very excited about the free cash flow generation and the shareholder remuneration that affords.

Craig Moffett
Partner and Senior Analyst, MoffettNathanson

Terrific. Thank you.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Thank you. You bet. Okay, operator.

Operator

Our next question comes from Philip Cusick with J.P. Morgan. You may proceed with your question.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Hey, Phil.

Philip Cusick
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, JPMorgan

Good morning, guys. Thank you. I wonder if we can dig into the business growth a little bit. What type of contracts are you signing? You know, what's the sort of enterprise versus SMB mix? Where do these customers tend to come in on ARPU? We've heard about some pretty heavy discounting that you've done to win some big contracts. As it goes to that, as we think about ARPA up 1% this year, should we think of ARPU more like flat, or does it start to drift a little bit lower year-over-year? Thanks, Mike.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

We'll start with Callie on what we're seeing and then switch over to Peter on ARPA and ARPU.

Callie Field
President of Business Group, T-Mobile

Thanks, Mike. In T-Mobile for Business, as Mike mentioned earlier, we continue to build very strong momentum, which is driven by our 5G network leadership combined with award-winning customer service model. In Q four, we continued to grow our service revenue. We delivered one of our highest-ever postpaid phone net add performances. We recorded our lowest postpaid phone churn since the merger with Sprint, and we grew our voice ARPU. In fact, we grew phone net adds every quarter in 2022, and it's having an impact, as you can see in Verizon's business churn, which was its highest ever levels in 2022. Their business phone net adds declined sequentially for the last three quarters. We've also achieved five consecutive quarters of business internet growth.

Some of our key wins in strategic verticals, we found in the airline industry where we've won nine out of 10 major airlines, growing our base with these customers by over 15% in Q4 alone. In the healthcare industry, we welcomed Ensign, who is a nursing company who's deploying our Mobility-as-a-Service solution to their 25,000 employees. In banking, large financial institutions are fast adopting our multi-line solution. We won two new logos in Q4 for a total of 2024 accounts. In the public sector, we welcomed Chicago PD, Harris County, Dallas ISD, and even in our Advanced Network Solutions category, we signed on Formula One, where we'll, for the Las Vegas Grand Prix, be providing, powering the operations and ensuring top performance speeds.

We also welcomed Vail Resorts, the largest mountain resort operator, where we're working together to provide innovative guest experiences, help them meet their sustainability goals and enhance resort operations. If you want to know why we're winning, it's not a race to the bottom. It's not a bid for the lowest rate or pricing down. We always treat our customers first, and in a modern workplace where CIOs are focused on productivity, digital transformation, these are more considered sales. Therefore, it matters that we have a two year head start in 5G network leadership. It matters that we deploy Customer-Driven Coverage, and we're differentiated as a superior network and an unparalleled service model. I'll hand it over to you, Peter.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Yeah. You know, let me just add to that. I think what you heard Neville Ray say is we're competing on quality by and large, and ARPUs are rising. They rose in 2022 in the business space. To the premise of your question, they're lower than consumer, but they rose in 2022 because CIOs are picking us because we have the best network and the best solutions, and they're interested in what we can bring in 5G that our competitors are behind on. That's, I think very much to the premise of your question. You know, as we go forward, one of the things to keep in mind is that even though business ARPUs are lower than consumer and always have been, and there's no structural change happening there, CLV are very good.

You know, the cost to sell in that area is lower longevity. There's plenty of reasons to like that business that are different from ARPU, and that's why you got to be careful about ARPU as a guiding metric for the profitability of the business, because it's not.

Peter Osvaldik
CFO, T-Mobile

Yeah, absolutely Mike. To your question, we're definitely not anticipating ARPU to be down on a year-over-year basis. In fact, I'd say probably our guide right now would be generally stable, that's primarily the mix-driven metric, as we just said, the continued success in T-Mobile for Business, for example, being a mix-driven metric, first responders, our segmentation approach. There's been just a tremendous amount of tailwind. You know, we continue to see strength in Magenta MAX take rates in Q4. As you get further into the year, there's potentially opportunity that we could even see some increases over that. I'd say right now, generally stable with potential upside later in the year, and we'll see how that develops.

Philip Cusick
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, JPMorgan

Thanks very much.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Great. Thanks. Yeah. Operator?

Operator

Our next question comes from John Hodulik with UBS. You may proceed with your question.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Hey, John.

John Hodulik
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Great. Thanks. Hey, Mike. Morning, guys. Two quick ones, if I could. First, I guess following up on the business market question, could you give some details on the rural market strategy? In the past, you've talked about, you know, where you were from a sort of spectrum deployment and distribution standpoint and sort of, you know, how well you're doing in terms of penetrating that market. On the CapEx guide, you know, about $9.5 billion, is this a sustainable level? For Neville maybe, you know, give us a sense for sort of what you have in store for the network in 2023. Maybe update us on sort of the spectrum deployment, the 2.5 GHz, w hat you're thinking for C-band and the other spectrum deployments as we look out to 2023 and beyond. It'd be great. Thanks.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Thanks, John. Those are two great ones. First on smaller markets in rural areas, you know, and I'll hand it to John. I am so pleased with what's happening here. You know, we set out to do something we hadn't really done at scale before a couple of years ago, and 2022 was a pivotal year to do all of that at scale. We moved from 30% to 60% of the marketplaces where we're really competing. You know, what I think we've explained to you before what we call internally License to Play or better. In those places, the numbers have been great. Maybe John, you can give a little bit of color on how all that's going and maybe even some numbers to back it up, and then we'll switch and talk about what's going on with the network.

Jon Freier
Chief Operating Officer, T-Mobile

Yeah. Like Mike said, you know, from 30%, one year ago to 60% where we're competing. Just to remind everybody the size of this market, this is 140 million people across the entire country. It's 50 million households. It's 40% of the U.S. in terms of how we define smaller markets, rural areas, which is everything outside of the top 100 markets. You know, this overall business, it's been so fun. You know, my heritage is, you know, I started out, 25 years ago selling into rural markets and bringing cell phone service into rural markets, and it's been so fun to actually bring usable internet service, whether it be in your home or the mobile service in these rural markets. It's been a very, very fun venture so far.

I got to tell you, our switching is up 350 basis points on a year-over-year basis. When we look at where we're competing, again, 60% of the markets across all of smaller markets, rural areas, we're right on the heels of Verizon of taking over the leadership position in share of port-ins across the entire market. It's been a lot of fun. You know, when you look at what's happening too with high-speed internet, that's a new front door opportunity for us with smaller markets in rural areas. About a third of our total HSI, high-speed internet, net adds are coming out of smaller markets in rural areas, and that's been a big catalyst for us in these particular geographies to be that front door in that consideration.

You know, when you look at, you know, Mike's been talking about this for a while in terms of not having to make the choice between a great value and a great network. That's never been more important, particularly in these areas that have been underserved for the last 25 years, and certainly the last 10 years from a mobile internet perspective. We're having a lot of fun doing it.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

to see share of switching well into the 30s, given that a lot of these places we really just started. I mean, we have less than a year of experience, and that shows that those customers have a resonance with our brand.

Jon Freier
Chief Operating Officer, T-Mobile

Yeah

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

And with our story, and they, you know, they want in. We're very pleased with how, you know, these markets and consumers in the markets are responding. Terrific. Let's go back. Oh, sorry, Jud.

Jud Henry
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, T-Mobile

The second part of his question was CapEx.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Oh, yeah.

Jud Henry
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, T-Mobile

And what network plan is going this year.

Neville Ray
President of Technology, T-Mobile

Almost forgot. Almost forgot about network plan.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Yeah. It wasn't just, it wasn't just the CapEx piece where the answer is yes, $9 billion-$10 billion's our run rate. It was also, what are we getting done with that money in 2023 and beyond.

Neville Ray
President of Technology, T-Mobile

You know, thanks for the question, Jon. We're coming off, you know, what has been a historic year for network investment in this company. I mean, we had an accelerated spend in 2022. You can see in Mike's opening comments the results that are coming from that. Our 5G leadership is, you know, is just not disputed in the marketplace. That's now translating to overall network leadership, which is just, you know, tremendous progress for the business and affords us a series of great growth opportunities as Jon just outlined in rural and across, you know, many other parts of the country too. As we look at a sustainable level in 2023, we're in a great place because, you know, we got the integration effectively complete last year.

That was a massive effort, but we're ahead of schedule there. As we look at the build program on 5G and overall network, you know, we just took great strides. Today we announced 265 million people now covered with our Ultra Capacity footprint, you know, in the U.S. That number will be at 300 million people covered with the Ultra Capacity footprint, you know, by the end of this year. We continue to expand that great powerful 5G service across the country. 300 million is a number that neither of our major competitors have even considered announcing a target to reach or to achieve. In addition to that, you know, per part of your question there, John, we continue to pile in spectrum assets on 5G. I mean, we're a 5G business.

We're trying to commit our spectrum, our entire portfolio to 5G as fast as we can. Why? Because it's delivering just a tremendous experience, you know, to our customers. That spectrum position today, we have 150 megahertz there or thereabouts dedicated to 5G across our markets. That's I think currently more than AT&T and Verizon combined have in the 5G space. That number we've said we're targeting 200 megahertz just on mid-band spectrum by the end of this year. We've recently talked about how we're not just deploying 2.5 gigahertz, we're also adding powerful PCS spectrum in the space. That's a big part of the program as we move through in 2023. You asked about DoD and C-band spectrum. We have some great assets there.

Probably a 2024 deployment plan for us as the opportunity to leverage and deploy that spectrum, you know, cleans up with the FAA, et cetera. 200 megahertz on mid-band is going to be an industry-leading, you know, proposition, long before we get to those spectrum assets. Delighted with the progress. I mean, the 5G network is just unbeatable today and, you know, across all markets in the U.S. The recent benchmarking clearly demonstrates that. I think more exciting for the business and especially for the network team is this overall network leadership, something that we've been working away on for, as Mike referenced, decades, and now is in our hands. Lot to do. 2023 will be a continued busy year for us, but the plan is to extend our network leadership.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

You know, one of the things you can take away, Jon, from what Neville just said, is that this network leadership story that has emerged has lots of room to run. You know, we said three years ago that, you know, we had jumped out in front on 5G, we were at least two years ahead of our competitors. I quipped, "In two years from now, we'll still be two years ahead of our competitors." That's exactly what has unfolded. You know, if you listen to Neville's statistics, he told you that we're already, as you know, at 265 million people covered by Ultra Capacity. Neither of our competitors has stated a goal to be there anytime in the next two years. In fact, they've stated a goal for the end of next year, two years from now, that's less than that.

Yet we're not stopping there. We're on our way to 300 million people this year. To me, the actually the more exciting part about the future casting you heard from Neville is going from 130 megahertz deployed of mid-band, 150 overall, 130 in mid-band to 200. That's a massive capacity expansion that's happening because that not just factors on the experience you get every day. So far our median speeds are five times faster than just three years ago. Our Magenta MAX customers, and you know how popular Magenta MAX is, they're using up 40 gigs a month. These are big advantages versus our competition. Home broadband, where we're generating more net adds than the rest of the industry combined, has lots of room to run.

You know, and that's all on the heels of this massive capacity that's not just in the network, that's still coming and within the run rate of the $9 billion-$10 billion in CapEx per year. Okay?

John Hodulik
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Great. Thanks for all the detail.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

You bet. Operator, next question.

Operator

Our next question comes from Simon Flannery with Morgan Stanley. You may proceed with your question.

Simon Flannery
Managing Director, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thank you. Mike, you teed up my question. You said you've got lots of room to run on fixed wireless. Some of the competitors critique the product around limitations on capacity, on speed. Perhaps now you've got a base of customers. You've seen the behavior over two years now. What are the learnings? How much market share do you think this product can take, and what's your ability to continue to expand the footprint, to continue to expand capacity of the network. Maybe just a quick word on macro. You talked about some concerns. Are you seeing anything on payment patterns or any other cautious behavior yet?

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Great. Well, first on broadband. You know, it's kind of stating the obvious. When somebody who is a fiber provider says, "You know, that product's not as good as our product," it's kinda like the people at Ferrari pointing a finger at the world's best-selling car, Toyota, saying, "You know, we're faster. We have the faster car." Yeah, Toyota's the world's best-selling car, and that's because, you know, and if you look in the case of T-Mobile 5G Home Internet, because it's perfectly suited to what people want. Although it has less overall potential for capacity than a strand of fiber, which is patently obvious, it's radically simple, it's low cost, it's transparent, it's portable within tens of millions of households, and it has the speed and capacity that allows people to do what they want.

Therefore, their Net Promoter Score are some of the highest in the industry, 10 points higher than fiber, 30 points higher than cable. Most of our customers are coming directly from cable, not just from rural areas or unconnected places or DSL. It kinda demonstrates that we've got a product here with the right mix of services to meet people's needs. Lots of room to run. When we launched this product, we talked about 7 million-8 million homes. As you can see from our numbers, we're tracking beautifully to that. The question now is, where do we go from here? I, you know, gave comments before about whether or not we're looking at ways that could augment that strategy. Of course we are. That's because we have a winning product and massively expanding capacity to support it.

One of the things to keep in mind is that economically, this, unlike fiber and cable, this product so far is not burdened by amortization of capital in the cost structure, right? We're able to take the capital that we deployed for mobile and find places with excess capacity and market broadband there, and those places are rapidly expanding even though we have millions of customers on board now soaking some of it up. We're moving our eligible homes from 40 million to 50 million, and that means that, you know, there's 50 million homes out of 140 million nationwide where if tomorrow morning you applied for service, we'd say yes. That is a big footprint, and, you know, we think the product is beautifully suited to the times.

Peter Osvaldik
CFO, T-Mobile

Yeah. I can speak to the question on the macro environment. From, you know, from a consumer perspective, no, we're not, we're not seeing it. Of course, this is an area where we're very cautious, but when we think about just Q3 to Q4, we actually saw a little bit of improvement in voluntary churn. You know, bad debt was exactly where we laid out in Q2. It was stable on a percentage of revenue, and in fact, actually lower than AT&T or Verizon on those metrics. It's something we're looking at and making sure, you know, we closely monitor.

As I said, this could also be a moment of opportunity for us because as a consumer set, to the extent that you're pressured from a recessionary perspective, from an inflationary perspective, it might make you consider a lot of categories of spend, and wireless being one of those. Any time you create the consideration moment, you go look around. Again, this is the time where not only the 5G leadership, but has translated into overall network leadership coupled with that value proposition just being a fabulous time, and it could be a tailwind for us. Again, looking there and making sure we're cautious, but nothing we're seeing right now, gives us cause for concern.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

We're making sure our company is ready for all scenarios.

Peter Osvaldik
CFO, T-Mobile

Of course.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

You know? I mean, the fact that we saw bad debt moderate from Q2 when inflation first spiked and surprised consumers last spring, both Q3 and Q4 were lower than Q2. Involuntary churn was actually lower in Q4 than Q3. Our bad debt rates are lower than AT&T's or Verizon's, showing the quality of our customer base, which has always been a question people have had, especially after the Sprint merger. We're side-eyeing the future like everybody else, we take it as far from a foregone conclusion that very stressful economic times are coming. We're prepared if they are. You know, we're financially prepared, as importantly, we're prepared to serve American consumers that in that situation may be questioning whether they ought to be having a great network at a better value.

You know, we're ready to stand up and serve them if they start questioning whether or not they should be saving money in this category because we are uniquely positioned with our high quality value positioning for economic times like what might be coming. So we're ready, in either case. You know, the emphatic answer to the question is no, we are not seeing it.

Simon Flannery
Managing Director, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks for color.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Yep. Judge, should we go in between here? Should we go up to, y ou guys can't see this, but we always have screens pointing at us with Twitter, you know, Twitter questions, and we like to open it up. You know, I was gonna have you call out a couple, but there's one, there's one that's from @magentleman.

Jud Henry
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, T-Mobile

Yeah.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

there, you win. They win. They have to have.

Jud Henry
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, T-Mobile

Name alone.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Right. But it's actually a really good question, and it kinda goes to something we've been talking about, which is, what's T-Mobile doing to maintain its industry-leading growth given cable starting to build momentum in the telco space? You know, we talked about convergence earlier on, you know, it's interesting to me that we, you know, we keep getting this question. We saw cable's results coming. You know, I talked about them in Q4. I would just tell you that it looks to us like cable, who's been in the run rate now for a long time, has had a recent uptick.

It looks to us like you're seeing lots of transference in terms of net adds that add to the category, you know, additional adds being printed, et cetera, for customers, new phone numbers being created, people coming over from prepaid as a dynamic. What's interesting is you see that recent surge in growth from cable, and this is interesting, at a time when every one of the three wireless incumbents experienced better than expected churn. Churn was better than expected. For us, it was falling. AT&T was falling in Q4 as well versus a year ago. At the moment when cable has, for some, well, it didn't surprise us, but for some, a surprise uptick in net adds. That should kind of tell you a little bit about what's going on.

For me, you know, we look at it as sort of, you know, as you would expect, you know, since this is a contact sport as sort of us against everybody else, right. If I look at the second half of the year, you know, what's interesting is T-Mobile was able to deliver 17% more postpaid phone net additions in the second half of this year versus last year, while the rest of the industry, Verizon, AT&T, Charter, and Comcast combined in wireless, delivered 19% less postpaid phone net additions in the second half of this year versus 2021. In terms of our separation from the market at a time when people ask us about cable, we're doing better and better. Jud, any one more on Twitter before we go back?

Jud Henry
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, T-Mobile

Not yet. Let's go back to the line-

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Okay.

Peter Osvaldik
CFO, T-Mobile

We'll keep watching.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Great. Operator, next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jonathan Chaplin with New Street Research. You may proceed with your question.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Hey, Jonathan.

Jonathan Chaplin
Managing Partner, New Street Research

Hey guys, how's it going? Thanks for taking the question. You gave really great context on sort of what the market size is for rural and small markets, and the fact that you've moved from 30% of that market to 60%. I'm wondering if you can give us a little bit more context around the business market, in terms of like how your market shares have progressed over the course of this year, and, you know, what you see the size of the overall market being.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

I mean, you know, one of the things you heard from Callie before is that Q4 was one of the best net add quarters ever in our history. We're really comfortable with where this is, how this is shaping up. One of the reasons for that is there are long sales cycles in this market. You know, we've been at this 5G story longer than anybody else. CIOs are very interested in more strategic engagements than they were interested in a couple of years ago. Now we're in those conversations, but we're way down the pike in them. We're very comfortable with where we are. We're competing extraordinarily well. To your market share question, we're very much on track for the Analyst Day aspirations that we shared with you.

Jonathan Chaplin
Managing Partner, New Street Research

Mike, can you give us the mix of business and fixed wireless broadband?

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

You mean, should I disclose that right now on the, you know, as a new fact? actually, I don't think we did.

Jonathan Chaplin
Managing Partner, New Street Research

I'd love that.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

I'm kidding, but I don't think we did, right?

Peter Osvaldik
CFO, T-Mobile

We haven't.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Yeah.

Peter Osvaldik
CFO, T-Mobile

I think what we've said is, it continues to be, the majority from consumer, but you're seeing continued uptick in the business side, as Callie mentioned, and growth there. We see a lot of room to run on the business side as well, and obviously continued room in the, in the consumer space.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Yeah, I did see some notes on that that kind of got it wrong. Maybe business is what's surging in that area. Business is doing well, but it's the overwhelming majority for us is consumer in that space.

Peter Osvaldik
CFO, T-Mobile

Yeah.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Okay.

Jonathan Chaplin
Managing Partner, New Street Research

Got it.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Good. Thanks, Jonathan.

Jonathan Chaplin
Managing Partner, New Street Research

Okay.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Yep. Operator, next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from Brett Feldman with Goldman Sachs. You may proceed with your question.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Hi, Brett.

Brett Feldman
Managing Director, Goldman Sachs

Thanks for taking the Hey, guys. You've been able to sustain very strong postpaid phone net adds throughout the merger integration, despite those results being burdened by elevated churn related to those integration activities at certain points in time. I know it sounds like it seems like a lot of that is behind you, but I'm curious how you think about the levers to drive churn lower from here. I'm wondering if there's actually any residual benefits from the integration we haven't seen yet. I don't know how important the remaining billing migration may be to churn and maybe just at a higher level, what type of churn outlook is embedded in your postpaid phone, your postpaid net add estimates for this year? Thank you.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Yeah. I, you know, first of all, yes, on integration, there's more room to run, but principally, I think most of the room to run comes from value, network, service, brand. Look, we've been through this journey. We drove the Magenta brand to the best churning brand in this industry, and I certainly won't be satisfied until T-Mobile blended postpaid is the best churning brand in this industry. We, you know, that shows you we've got some room to run because while we're the most improved, which is a great prize, we're not the best yet. That's where we're going. That's the goal. It is, of course, there's some room to run on integration. We're not separating it for you anymore because it's very hard to chop up at this point.

All the customers are on the destination network. Some of them are on the destination biller. It's not that determinative anymore as to which biller you have because we try to make that biller sort of very opaque to you and not transparent. You're called T-Mobile in many cases. It's just hard to chop it up now. Yes, there's still room to run to get people settled into fantastic rate plans, both on their device as well as on their service, and to feel very cared for with clear, transparent services. I'd say the bigger opportunity is our worst to first game plan that we know how to execute, which is give people a great deal, give them Un-carrier moves that allow them to voice that deal and express it and advocate for T-Mobile. Give them the best network, bar none.

Give them a fantastic path to great devices. Give them a brand that's famous for caring for them and the best customer service in the industry. That's why our Net Promoter Score are the highest in the industry, and I expect that to translate to the lowest churn by the time we're done.

Brett Feldman
Managing Director, Goldman Sachs

If you wouldn't mind, if I could just ask a churn follow-up question?

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Sure.

Brett Feldman
Managing Director, Goldman Sachs

Where are you in understanding the churn profile of your fixed wireless base, either just as a standalone broadband customer or perhaps the impact it has on your mobile churn to the extent it's bundled with mobile?

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

We're really happy with it. you know, what we do with any business is we age it into cohorts and look at it sort of based on people that have been with us a year and a half, people that have just been with us a few weeks. What you see is exactly what you would expect, which is the more aged cohorts are settling into a beautiful pattern. We have the youngest broadband base in the industry, because we went from nothing to 2.5 million subscribers all in the last few months. So we have to really break it down to understand it, and when we do, we're very pleased.

One of the things that happens as a dynamic on this business is that the barriers to trial, therefore the cost to us of encouraging that trial are totally different than wireline. We're not sending some truck to your house to dig ditches or drill holes in the side of your house and all kinds of costs. We're letting you take home a modem and router and give it a shot. If you love it, you wind up sticking with it, and if not, there's sort of a no harm, no foul relationship that says, "Look, let's try it again in a year if it wasn't perfect for you right now," because we're pouring capacity into this network.

As long as we treat customers really well and they gave this a shot and we were transparent with them that, you know, as to whether or not it would work, the vast majority keep it. Those small portion of people that don't, doesn't really wind up costing us anything. The dynamics of early churn in a business like this are totally different than traditional broadband. That's one of the things that makes it a better business model.

Brett Feldman
Managing Director, Goldman Sachs

Great. Thanks for that color.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

You bet. Okay, operator.

Operator

Our next question comes from David Barden with Bank of America. You may proceed with your question.

David Barden
Partner and Head of North America Telecommunications, Bank of America

Hey, guys.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Hey, Dave.

David Barden
Partner and Head of North America Telecommunications, Bank of America

Thanks so much for taking the question. Hey, Mike. Thanks.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

You bet.

David Barden
Partner and Head of North America Telecommunications, Bank of America

I guess the first question would be for Peter. If you could kind of step us through the guidance and the changes from the Analyst Day outlook from $28 billion-$29 billion, what's changed to move your midpoint expectation up? From the free cash flow original guidance of $13 billion-$14 billion, what's moved your midpoint down, and what are the moving parts in between those two things? The second question would be, Mike, you know, what would be your appetite to proactively reach out to SoftBank within the confines of the stock buyback program and clean up this 48.8 million share issue that seems to be keeping, for whatever reason, and I understand the lockup and other, but it seems to be keeping T-Mobile stock from going up north of 150.

Is there an appetite to just get rid of that and just make sure that that's not a headwind for the stock on a go-forward basis? Thank you.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Those are both great questions, Dave. Let's start with EBITDA and cash flow. If you could just eliminate all the headwinds and tailwinds since the early 2021 kind of give us a high level.

Peter Osvaldik
CFO, T-Mobile

Yeah.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

By the way, we're the only ones still talking about our 2021 guidance, and we're talking about pulling into the station beating it. You know, that should say a lot about our business plan and the integrity of it. But it is actually quite different than what we were expecting in terms of some of the shaping of it inside our, y ou know, maybe you can give some color, Peter.

Peter Osvaldik
CFO, T-Mobile

Absolutely. You know, when I, when I just think, Dave, back to Analyst Day and what's happened since then, you've certainly seen a tremendous amount of incremental profitable growth than what we assumed. You saw the ARPA trajectory grow. You know, you've seen high speed internet and the tremendous growth that we've had there and the ability to accelerate synergies, you know. On the flip side, of course, the world's changed a lot since then and inflation is one of the elements that's impacted a lot of companies. For us, we've been a lot more insulated than others, and we've talked before around why that is with our ability, you know, early on after the merger to lock down major categories of costs during a time when the negotiation looked a lot different, in low interest rate environments and low inflation rate environments.

That's a lot of the kind of puts and takes and, you know, why you see us now being able and confident to express a guide that's actually above Analyst Day. When I think about just the shaping of then core EBITDA throughout the course of the year, what you're gonna have, of course, is continued profitable growth and continued synergy unlock. One of the things that's assumed in the core EBITDA guide is the wireline sale close somewhere around midyear and, you know, that's a little bit of a drag on core EBITDA. As I think about like, you know, Q1 probably in the approximately $6.9 range and then continued unlock throughout the course of the year on core EBITDA.

How I think about from there to free cash flow, really free cash flow in 2023 has a few one-time items that you need to consider. First and foremost is we actually now in 2023 achieving what we've been talking about for a long time now, which is the highest conversion of service revenue to free cash flow in the industry, despite these kind of few one-time things that I'll highlight. One is merger related expenses, and I spoke in the prepared remarks around $1.5 billion-$2 billion, and that's a little bit higher than we assumed at Analyst Day in terms of total merger related expenses by about $400 million. That gives you now an incremental unlock up to $8 billion in total run rates synergies. That's one.

The other is, you know, the 2021 cyber event. Remember you saw us take a lot of the expense related charges in 2022, but we anticipate the cash flow associated with the class action settlement to outflow in 2023. The last again is related to wireline, where as you recall, we have an IP related take-or-pay agreement, the first year after close is $350 million and then tapers down significantly from there. We're assuming, you know, about half of that flowing into 2023. That's how you kinda take Core EBITDA down to free cash flow guide. Hopefully that answered almost all the puts and takes.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

It's pretty good. I just love the question by the way, Dave, because our guide on cash flow for next year is to have 75% year-on-year growth. You're like, "Right, but could we have just a little more?" Which I respect. The answer is I hope so. You know, let's see, let's see what happens. Oh, and you had a second question about SoftBank. You know, obviously, we know the SoftBank guys very well. We talk a lot, we're in constant communication. I wouldn't say there's a deal imminent.

There's a reason for that, which is, people on both sides of a potential transaction believe that we're moving past 150 anyway, they don't have a lot of incentive to give us a, you know, a deal or a discount because they think they're getting this event. We've always planned for it. We've always believed, you know, the average analyst targets 170 on this business, that, you know, if you look at our rapidly expanding cash flow profile and the durability of our growth strategy, you know, we think this event is probably coming. You know, it doesn't feel like. It feels like for us, we would want a discount if we were gonna take that out, they look at it and say, "Yeah, why would I give you a discount?" There's.

You know, that's a little bit of color on it. I wouldn't say a transaction's imminent, but I wouldn't say, you know, it's impossible either.

David Barden
Partner and Head of North America Telecommunications, Bank of America

All right.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Okay.

David Barden
Partner and Head of North America Telecommunications, Bank of America

Thank you.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Um-

David Barden
Partner and Head of North America Telecommunications, Bank of America

You, you know me.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Thanks, Dave. I think the operator cut you off, yes, we know, and thank you for that. That's awesome. Great. Looking over, i f we look at the Twitter, John Hodulik always has some great questions. T-Mobile, Jon Freier, Mike Katz, state of prepaid for T-Mobile competitors including MVNOs. T-Mobile was the only net positive on prepaid, others had losses. What's going on with prepaid, and also what's going on with the MVNO market? Since it includes the MVNO market, I'll actually switch to Mike Katz. You can tell us a little bit about what's happening in prepaid.

Mike Katz
Chief Business and Product Officer, T-Mobile

Yeah. Like Mike said, we're really excited about what happened in prepaid. We were the only ones with positive gains. And I think most importantly, we have and continue to have the number one brand in prepaid with Metro. We see the Metro growth, you know, being a big tailwind for us. We also have a really healthy and robust MVNO set of partnerships, including big exclusive partners that also had significant growth over the course of 2022 and in Q4. We've got a diverse set of partners that both focus in unique distribution that we don't always fully reach with the T-Mobile brand and unique segments that also sometimes are underrepresented with the T-Mobile brand. We feel really good about the portfolio of products and brands that are reaching the prepaid market.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

You know, I find it particularly gratifying that in an environment where there's lots of transference from prepaid to postpaid going on, and which has lasted longer than most people predicted it would last, our prepaid brand continues to be the strongest in the market and the only one that grew this quarter. That's fantastic because you have seen lots of momentum across the industry from prepaid to postpaid because of the economic times. People are qualifying for postpaid and continue to do so to the premise of the earlier question about what we're seeing in the macroeconomic environment. Yet our prepaid brand remains this strong. Lowest churn ever in our history on prepaid and the lowest in the industry was in 2022. This is a business that has a great bond with its customers.

They stick with it for a long time. They love Metro by T-Mobile, and it's a real source of strength. Cool. Judd, does that-

Does that take us to the end of the program?

Jud Henry
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, T-Mobile

It does. We could probably take one more question, and then we gotta wrap it up. Operator, one more, and then we gotta call it a day.

Operator

No problem. Our next question comes from Peter Supino with Wolfe Research. You may proceed with your question.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Hey, Peter.

Peter Supino
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Wolfe Research

Hey. Thank you. Hey, good morning. Thank you. A question on postpaid phone ARPU. For many years, your ARPU model was flat to down annually, and 2022 was a fantastic year for ARPU, thanks in part to Max. Max sell-in still sounds really steady for 2023. Thinking about your outlook for flatish, I'm just wondering why we might not expect to see more growth in ARPU and maybe even a similar year to 2022 in 2023.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

You know, a part of it is 'cause it's early in the year, and it's not that clear where the dynamics of competition will be. If you look back to our multi-year Analyst Day targets, we actually thought back then, back to all the puts and takes, and Peter just kinda talked about this, that there would be much more going on on sort of the service revenue ARPU side, and we didn't anticipate as much as what wound up happening on the device side. You know, we guided accordingly on service revenues and ARPU. Well, we achieved, you know, the 2023 service revenues last year, and ARPU growth was a big reason for that. We had unexpected costs on the device side because the factors of competition sort of shifted. It's a little early to commit on ARPU.

We do know that if there's an opportunity for growth versus just generally stable, it'd be more in the second half than the first half, and there's lots of reasons for that. We really like where this is. The underlying dynamics on Magenta MAX are stronger. They're not moderating. They are stronger than they've ever been. On the other hand, we're finding success with military, with seniors, with business, and other things that could be diluted to ARPU but are fantastic on a CLV basis. That's why we have to be careful about not getting people too hooked into ARPU. ARPA, we're guiding for growth because we see lots of opportunity for customers to continue to double down on their relationships with us across the board, including new device types and including home and business broadband.

Hopefully that gives you a little bit of the puts and takes and kind of why it unfolded the way it unfolded.

Peter Supino
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Wolfe Research

It's a great answer. Thanks and congratulations.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

All right, Peter. Thank you so much.

Jud Henry
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, T-Mobile

Yep. Thanks, everybody, for joining us today. Again, look forward to catching up with you again soon. If you have any other questions, please reach out to the investor relations and media relations team, and have a great day.

Mike Sievert
President and CEO, T-Mobile

Thanks, everybody.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the T-Mobile Q4 earnings call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect and have a pleasant day.

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