Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Trivia Therapeutics corporate update call. At this time, all participant lines are in listen only mode. After the presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference may be recorded.
I'd now like to hand the conference over to your host today, Mr. Chris Klein. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Liz. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us on short notice today to talk about our regulatory update for Sparsen and FSGS. Today's call will be led by our Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Eric DuVay Doctor. Bill Roat, Senior Vice President of Research and Development and our Chief Financial Officer, Laura Klague, will join us for the Q and A session.
Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that statements made during this call regarding matters that are not historical facts are forward looking statements within the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward looking statements are not guarantees of performance. They involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and assumptions that may cause actual results, performance and achievements to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the statement. Please see the forward looking statement disclaimer on the company's press release issued earlier today as well as the Risk Factors section on our Forms 10 Q and 10 ks filed with the SEC. In addition, any forward looking statements represent our views only as of the date such statements are made, 05/25/2021, and Traverse specifically disclaims any obligation to update such circumstances to reflect future information, events, or circumstances.
With that, let me now turn the call over to Eric. Eric?
Thank you, Chris, and good afternoon. Earlier this year, our phase three DUPLEX study of sparsentan, the largest study to date in FSGS, achieved its interim proteinuria endpoint that was designed to support accelerated approval submissions in The US and Europe. As previously communicated, following receipt of the interim data, we engaged in pre NDA and MAA pre submission meetings to discuss accelerated approval submissions for FSGS with the available data set, and we have recently received final minutes. FDA has indicated that the available data from the interim assessment of the DUPLEX study are not adequate to support an accelerated approval at this time. We believe FDA would like to see additional data, and as a result, we will not be moving ahead with the previously targeted submission in The US this year.
So where do we go from here? Importantly, FDA have acknowledged the challenges in studying a drug like sparsentan with acute reductions on eGFR, as well as the high unmet need for approved therapies for the treatment of FSGS. And while we are incredibly disappointed that we will not be able to meet our goal of submitting this year, the interactions with FDA lead us to remain optimistic that we still have an opportunity to pursue an accelerated approval submission in The US. Specifically, the FDA minutes reflect that it may be possible to submit an application for accelerated approval after additional data accrued in the DUPLEX study. We believe that based upon our discussions and our analysis of the data to date, there are time points in DUPLEX during the first half of next year that could present meaningful eGFR data and may provide additional predictability to the FDA.
While there are additional details to work through, given the complexity of the innovative design of the trial, FDA have encouraged us to formalize these plans and request a follow-up meeting to discuss this option in greater detail. If successful, this could result in a submission for accelerated approval next year for FSGS. We expect a type a meeting to occur in the third quarter of this year, and we anticipate providing a further update after that interaction. But from where we sit today, I'd like to provide some additional context. Before I provide additional context, I have to remind everyone that the DUPLEX Study is ongoing, and as such, it is imperative that we maintain the study blind and trial integrity, so we will not be able to provide specific data today.
As to be expected, our discussions with the agency have been substantially focused on expectations for eGFR data and the predictability of achieving the confirmatory endpoint. As you will recall, based on our previous interactions with the FDA, we expected that their assessment of accelerated approval would be based on the totality of the data, including eGFR data available. As previously reported, eGFR data at the time of the interim analysis were limited. While our assumptions have always been that a robust assessment of eGFR would not be available at this stage in the study, we believe a combination of two factors are contributing to the limited nature of the eGFR data at the interim assessment. The first is the acute reduction in eGFR that is expected to be seen as a result of sparsentan's mechanism.
And the second factor is the enrollment dynamics in DUPLEX. Specifically the fact that a significant number of patients enrolled later in the study. As many of you know from the phase two DUET study, it is expected that sparsentan, and to a lesser degree, irbesartan, may cause an acute reduction in eGFR at the outset of initiating therapy. This dynamic is well understood as part of the mechanisms, similar to the well documented effects of other ERAs, RAS inhibitors, and in recent SGLT two inhibitor publications where additional acute effects were seen when these therapies were added on top of ARBs. It is understood by nephrologists to not be deleterious, to be temporary, and reported in the literature that it may confer nephroprotection resulting in long term benefit in eGFR.
This is also consistent with the DUET study where we saw that reductions in proteinuria and an initial reduction in eGFR were later associated with stabilization of eGFR in the open label extension. As for the second factor, enrollment, DUPLEX ended up with a substantial percentage of its total randomizations in the final six months of the enrollment period. This is in part due to the high demand at the end of the study, and the fact that we ended up with an over enrolled population of approximately 70 additional subjects in the study. In our case, this resulted in a high proportion of the available eGFR data in the interim assessment being weighted to earlier study visits, during which the acute reductions in eGFR are expected to be most prominent. Despite this, we believe that the available data, including eGFR at the time of the interim assessment, are reflective of and consistent with the data from our phase two DUET study that has collected patient data now going out for more than six years.
We also believe they are consistent with the assumptions used to design DUPLEX, and we continue to believe that the totality of the data in the interim assessment are predictive of a potential difference in treatment effect at two years. Further, we believe the data are also bolstered by the durability of proteinuria production seen to date for sparsentan in its development program, and by further assessments of proteinuria in the interim assessment, including complete remission trends, which are consistent with what we have seen during the program's history. This provides us with optimism that the data we would potentially look to generate in the first half of next year can provide additional predictability and enable an accelerated approval submission in The US. As for our regular regulatory interactions in Europe, based on our initial MAA pre submission interactions, we plan to continue on the path for conditional marking authorization with the available data set. There is the potential that the EMA may evolve their view to be consistent with FDA, but for now we are progressing ahead and continuing preparations to be ready to submit an application for conditional marketing authorization with the EMA this year as planned.
We will provide updates as we discuss the program further with our assigned rapporteurs and co rapporteurs later this year. When we step back and look at the overall progress of the sparsentan programs following these recent regulatory interactions, we maintain the same level of confidence in sparsentan's profile, which we believe supports its potential to become a new treatment standard in FSGS and IgA nephropathy. It is possible that we may only experience a delay of approximately six months to the first anticipated launch in The US, as the PROTECT study in IgA nephropathy is set to read out next quarter. Today's news does not alter our view of the ability to pursue accelerated approval in IgA nephropathy. I say this because there are important differences in how PROTECT has been designed that may enable a more sufficient interim analysis for FDA.
For example, all patients in the PROTECT study are required to come into the trial on maximum tolerated dose of ACE or ARB therapy. There's also no washout before randomization in the PROTECT study. And perhaps most importantly, we expect the interim data set overall to be more mature compared to DUPLEX. This is because PROTECT has had a comparatively linear curve enrollment curve, and the interim assessment is triggered after the first two eighty patients reach thirty six weeks in the study. For example, at the time of the interim analysis for PROTECT, we anticipate having a greater number of patients with at least one year of eGFR data compared to DUPLEX.
We, of course, need to see the data, but we remain optimistic in the study's ability to provide a package that may support an accelerated approval submission based upon our discussions thus far. As a result of the changes of our timelines for FSGS, operationally, we will be shifting many of our launch preparation activities out approximately six months. Our teams have done a phenomenal job of developing a plan to successfully launch sparsentan for FSGS. At this point, we will delay the further operationalization of that for The US and look to build upon it for IgA nephropathy at the appropriate time. This means that we no longer anticipate the increases in operating expenses throughout the balance of this year that we had previously forecasted.
Instead, we expect operating expenses will likely remain generally consistent with quarter one throughout the duration of the year, with the potential for an increase in the fourth quarter following the PROTECT top line readout and a restart of our launch preparation activities. By shifting our launch activities, we anticipate a significant cost avoidance compared to our previous forecast for 2021 and potentially additional cost deferrals in 2022. Importantly, our financial position remains strong. As of March 31, we had more than $520,000,000 on the balance sheet, and we will continue to be disciplined in our spend. We anticipate being able to manage our balance sheet so that we can fund our current operations into 2023.
Before opening the call for q and a, I do want to thank some of our key stakeholders for their continued commitment to bringing sparsentan to people living with FSGS and IgA nephropathy. I'd like to thank the patients, families, caregivers, and our investigators and site staff that continue to work very hard to advance our DUPLEX and PROTECT studies. Their continued participation and dedication to these ongoing studies is critical to being successful in ultimately delivering sparsentan. I'd also like to recognize our employees, whose focus on bringing sparsentan to patients is unwavering. An incredible amount of momentum has been built by working on the NDA and CMA submissions for FSGS, and we will leverage that to go as quickly as possible in IgA nephropathy, and once we have additional direction on FSGS.
Lastly, I would also like to thank our many dedicated shareholders. We are at the forefront of bringing the first innovation in decades to these rare renal communities, And at times, this comes with obstacles that we must overcome. Today's news is no doubt disappointing, but it does not deter us or change our confidence in being able to deliver on our goal of making sparsentan a new treatment standard for both FSGS and IgA nephropathy. Your continued support is invaluable to us, and it will ultimately play a key role in making a difference in these patients' lives. Let me now turn the call over to Chris for Q and A.
Chris?
Thanks, Eric. Liz, can we
go ahead and open up the lines for questions, please?
If you'd like to ask a question at this time, please press the star, then the number one key on your touch tone telephone. Our first question comes from Joseph Schwartz with SVB Leerink.
Hi, thanks very much. I was wondering if you can talk about what might account for the change in receptivity at the FDA between now and when you established the plan for accelerated approval years ago. Was the hemodynamic reduction in eGFR larger or more protracted than expected? Do you have a good understanding of the EGFR profile that the FDA wants to see ultimately in order to grant accelerated approval?
Thanks for the question. I would say with regard to FPRE and proteinuria, the approach that FDA has taken hasn't changed. In that, we still see and they view proteinuria as a valid surrogate for FSGS and for IgA nephropathy. And FDA has been consistent in supporting this approach. I think what is important is to recognize that this is a novel surrogate endpoint, and I think we've tried to communicate that it's not just the achievement of FPRE, but it's also in how this is going to predict eGFR over the long term.
We believe that we've demonstrated a clear difference that is statistically significant, clinically meaningful on FPRE, and we believe that that is going to predict a longer term treatment difference on eGFR. What we've seen now in having the discussions with the actual data with FDA is that they want to see a dataset that is more mature and even more predictive of that endpoint at the end of the study. And that's what we'll be working with them over the next couple of months to align on. But they were not ever giving us a very specific standard or threshold for FPRE or eGFR that we would need to show at this interim. It's really in the totality of data, and again, what would give them confidence in that two year endpoint.
I'll hand it over to Bill to see if there's anything else that he'd like to add.
No. I think you've summed it up well. Nothing to add.
Okay. So how did the '22 come about as a proposal? What quantum of data do you expect to have then on eGFR, and what is the trigger you envision when when you, will, look at that and provide it to the FDA?
Sure. Thanks, take that one.
Sure. Sure. Thanks, Joe. The '2 is a proposal, and it's not been accepted by the FDA yet. So that's, you know, work in progress.
We're in discussion with that. The reason we see that as an appropriate time point for a next look at the data from the study, from the DUPLEX study, is that there's a point in the time when we look at the enrollment curves where we really have a substantial amount of patients through one year of data and a larger percentage that have, well, a larger percentage than now but smaller percentage than at the one year point that have completed the two year data. It's a point in the curve where there's a critical mass of information, and it makes the most sense if we're going to take another look at the data. We wanna make sure that we do it, you know, at a time point where we have stronger predictive expectations, but also, ability, to do it as soon as we can.
Thanks for taking my questions.
Thanks, Joe.
Our next question comes from Tim Lugo with William Blair.
Thanks for the question. And it's obviously a disappointment to many of the stakeholders. But can you comment at all what the FDA might have included in their minutes around safety? And, also, if you take this look in 2022, what kind of statistical penalties you'll need to take in the trial to make that look?
Bill, why don't you take this one?
Certainly. The discussions that we had in the pre NDA meeting were really focused on prediction of the two year endpoint. There was not significant discussion around safety. That was not seen as an issue. And as we've reported, the safety thus far from DUPLEX looks comparable to the comparator arm.
Your question around the statistical penalty is an interesting one and it's part of our discussion going forward in a future Type A meeting. In this case we're looking at data but not using it to make decisions about the study but using it to permit the agency to have a different level of confidence. So the need for an alpha spend is an open question there. And you can make a case, we believe, that it may not be required, we're gonna need to see as those discussions progress with the agency.
Okay. Fair enough. And can you around EMA, I guess, what's kind of a regulatory precedence where there isn't kind of incrementally more concern around filing for an accelerated approval there?
Well, I I think that, you know, certainly, they're different processes, and they have conditional marketing approval, which is has subtle differences from the subpart h accelerated approval from the FDA. Because those their rules are different, they may have a different perspective on the data. So we're in the process of having those discussions now, and we'll update when we have more information.
Okay. Thank you for the question.
Thanks, Our
next question comes from Carter Gould with Barclays.
All right. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. Eric, in terms of the messaging around IGAN, pretty strong messaging from you that you don't see an impact there. Can you expand upon some of the your level of confidence on that front?
And if you could provide some color in terms of like what percentage of patients you would expect to be through one year? And then just to be clear, as you think then about the sequencing of these potential filings, I guess now it sounded like you positioning at least like IGAN could come first now. I just want to make sure I'm characterizing that correctly. Thank you.
Thanks, Carter, for the questions. And first, to start on sequencing, yes, you are correct that assuming positive data from the interim readout next quarter, our plans and the timeline would be such that IGAN would be submitted first, and assuming again success, that we would be first to market with that indication. Now, with regard to the confidence in the program, and I would say that there's a very cautious read through. We would not read through with this program on how FDA may look at this. Again, we've not discussed the IGAN program in the interim beyond the design of the trial.
But when we look at the data, and we look at the maturity of the data that we will have at the interim, there will be more patients that have longer term data. About double the patients will be at one year or more in PROTECT compared to DUPLEX at the time of the interim. That is a substantial amount of data to be able to analyze a longer term endpoint such as eGFR. So we believe that that's a very important aspect of how we've thought about the differences between PROTECT and DUPLEX. But also, as Bill mentioned, why we've looked at the first half of next year as a right point of looking additional data, or providing additional data on eGFR to the FDA.
Thank you.
Thanks, Carter.
Our next question comes from Do Kim with BMO Capital Markets.
Hi. Thanks for taking my question. It seems that you suggest or or you suggest that the FDA pushback was around the initial reduction in eGFR caused by sparsentan's mechanism. Could you confirm that the Erbocetin arm also saw the same effect on eGFR? And if you could let us know if there was a rebound in eGFR in the early enrolled patients.
Bill, thanks for your question. So we'll talk about it in what we understand from the mechanisms. We do understand that both sparsentan as well as ACEs and ARBs, as well as other classes that have an acute effect, they do see a stabilization or a rebound longer term. I'm not gonna be in a position to talk about specific eGFR data from DUPLEX. Again, we wanna be very, very careful about not disclosing or unblinding any data there.
But I can point you to the broader literature that suggests that this is a known effect within broader classes that have a hemodynamic effect, such as ACEs and ARBs.
Okay, thank you. And do you think you'll be able to provide an update on the data before potentially refiling with the FDA in the '2?
Well, I think the plan that Bill and team have laid out and what was requested from FDA is that we have a formal meeting soon to be able to align on if we were to provide additional data, what would that look like and when? And that's really the next step for us before we provide further details on timing of a submission for accelerated approval. So I would say there certainly would be an additional up you know, assuming that we align with FDA, that there would be an update, but it would be you know, we we need to go through and and align with them before we provide any further detail or guidance on on what that might be, or the timeline implications. What I will point to you is the timelines of meeting with FDA, that we will be looking to do later this year. And as we mentioned, we believe that the right timeline for another evaluation of the EGFR data would be the first half of next year.
The rest of it, we'll certainly commit to providing you updates once we know more.
Got it. Understood. Thanks for taking my questions.
Thanks, To.
Our next question comes from Lisa Baker with Evercore ISI.
Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I just wanted to understand a little bit more what exactly FDA is looking for in the EGFR data. So I mean, have data now, Right? It's not mature enough.
I mean, what does that mean? Do they wanna see it return to baseline? Do they wanna see it trending upwards? I mean, what is the what are they looking for in that data to feel comfortable, looking at proteinuria? They're obviously not comfortable with what they have right now.
So what is it that some that kind of a more mature data would provide?
Sure. So, Lisa, thanks for the question. I'd say first, if we take step back, this is a potentially precedent setting trial for this space, and we believe the FDA is taking the steps to really understand the data and what would be highly predictive of the confirmatory endpoint. And in these discussions, FDA has not given us specific treatment effect that they want to see, or a specific trend that they want to see, but that they want to have the data continue to mature so that they'll be able to have a substantive update and that it would be predictive of the two year endpoint. That's really what they've provided for us, and I'll ask Bill to provide any further information I might have missed.
I think you've given a good summary. I think it's really the predictive nature in this type of setting with a surrogate, a novel surrogate going to predicting the two year endpoint. And they're also, I think, cognizant of other studies in this space, and precedent's important to them. They want to make sure they're right.
And again, Lisa, I'll just point out that, you know, from our perspective, the data were were very heavily weighted to earlier study visits. And, you know, based on our understanding of the data and sparse sentence profile and DUET, we believe that the data that we have at the interim are predictive, but we also understand from FDA that they want to see more, and they want to see the data mature further in order for them to be confident that it would be predictive.
Okay. And and did they give you some indication that sort of, you know, a critical mass at the one year time point would constitute sufficient data? Like, what gives you, I guess, confidence that that data coming in the first half of the year would would meet the the criteria after you have?
So so that's based on
our projection of study visits and how long patients will have a follow-up, you know, beyond you know, one year and beyond. So it's really us coming back to them with that proposal of what is going to be a more mature dataset for them to evaluate.
Okay. And then just to clarify, so you think the timing you'd you think you'd have this data in the 2022. And would you meet with FDA again to discuss a filing with that data? And if they say yes, then you go ahead and file. So, like, a filing will come later in 2022 or when you know, if if things go according to your sort of tentative plan here, when would you actually be able to submit?
Yeah. Great question. I would say first, you know, a lot of the NDA has already been drafted, and we will be ready well before that to submit, of course, notwithstanding any additional data that they would want to see. I think it's a reasonable expectation that they would want to meet with us be before we submit to make sure that we're fully aligned on on the data that we would have and that it meets their expectations. But we would be in a position to submit very quickly after gaining that alignment with any new data.
Okay. Thanks for the answer the questions.
Thanks, Lisa.
Our next question comes from Michelle Gilson with Canaccord Genuity.
Hi. Thank you for taking my question. I just wanted to clarify, I guess, FDA that the FDA isn't concerned that the data is predictive of the study failing the confirmatory to your endpoint, that that that that's not their concern. They just want, I guess, more clarity and additional data to confirm the benefit that you're seeing?
That's right, Michelle. It's really, you know, confident that the data would be predictive of the two year treatment effect.
Okay. And then just in in terms of what you're looking at for PROTECT, you're looking you're gonna be looking at the eGFR data for all three hundred eighty patients in in that study, not just the two hundred eighty that are included in the interim proteinuria analysis?
That's right. So the the interim analysis is based on the two hundred and eightieth patient achieving their thirty six week visit, and all data at that time will be included. So you would have more than 280 patients, but at fewer study visits. But because two eighty is a greater proportion of the overall sample size, also because of the more linear enrollment trends, we believe that will confer a much more mature dataset than what we saw at the DUPLEX interim.
Okay, and in terms of IgA nephropathy, there's, a better established link between proteinuria and eGFR. You know, is there do you think that that will play a role in terms of the filability of the PROTECT data based on your interim analysis? And I guess I'm wondering if the FPRE endpoint itself and its, I guess, validity in terms of predicting EGFR preservation is is a key concern and if that could be, I guess, ameliorated in terms of the the IgA nephropathy study just based on, I guess, the robustness.
Yeah. I think, Michelle, how I would characterize it is that the link between proteinuria and longer term eGFR is strong in both diseases, including the FPRE given how strict that measure is for proteinuria reductions. The literature behind IGAN is even stronger, given that there are a number of clinical trials that have been conducted to support that analysis. And in our discussions with regulators over the years, there is a recognition of that literature and the link with proteinuria for both conditions. So I would say that it's even stronger in IGAN, which again gives us confidence that accelerated approval is a clear path for PROTECT, assuming we see positive data next quarter.
Okay. Thank you for taking my questions.
Thanks, Michelle.
Our next question comes from Maury Raycroft with Jefferies.
Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. So for the Type A meeting expected to occur in 3Q twenty twenty one, can you clarify if you will have the ability to discuss a more recent cut of data either in a blinded or unblinded manner? I guess, is there is there anything anything new that you're taking to that type a meeting that you can specify?
So, Maury, there is no other planned analysis or cut of the data beyond what we had at thirty six weeks. And so we would not be in a position to unblind the study further for the type a and certainly without having full alignment with the agency. So really, we're looking at the type a meeting is is really the opportunity for us to line on any additional data that they would want to see, you know, beyond that point.
Got it. So, basically, it's gonna be you guys showing them your projections and hoping to align on potentially 2022. That's
right.
Okay. Okay. Thanks for taking my Sure.
Thank you, Mark. And really, it's about showing them that how the data will mature to ensure that, you know, at that point in the first half of next year, that they would have sufficient data to have confidence that eGFR, you know, will be predictive of of the two years. That's that's really what we're looking to align at at this next meeting.
Our next question comes from Laura Chico with Wedbush.
Hey, thanks very much for taking the question. I guess I just wanted to follow-up on the conversation regarding FPRE and FSGS and IgAN. Eric, I think you made some comments that there's clearly, I think, a more well entrenched story around proteinuria and IgAN, maybe a little less so in FSGS. I guess I'm still a little confused then. What gives you confidence that EMA would not have similar concerns around the FPRE endpoint?
And then one other clarification on communication strategy. It would seem like there would be some benefit to helping educate the community a little bit more about f k FPRE as a surrogate marker. So I guess I'm kinda curious if there is any consideration for changing the communication strategy in terms of maybe presenting some of the detailed DUPLEX data. Thanks.
Thanks, Laura. Great questions. Let me make sure that I characterize FPRE clearly. The literature and our assessment, as well as independent assessments of proteinuria and FSGS very clearly show that there is a link between proteinuria reduction and eGFR, including complete remission and FPRE. And we believe that that's that's well understood by by regulators, including the EMA.
And that's certainly recognized by some of the top nephrologists. So so I would say that there's not a a weak link. It is clearly there, and it is robust in demonstrating that proteinuria reductions in FSGS will predict eGFR. Really, what is at stake here is, are the data mature enough on eGFR to give FDA confidence that it is predictive? And so that's what I would suggest.
With regard to communications, I think it's a very good point, and certainly is a critical part of our launch strategy in supporting the education of nephrologists for them to understand the importance of FPRE. We believe that based on our work with nephrologists, that they understand the importance of proteinuria. Many of them look at just reducing proteinuria as much as they can. But now with the established literature and with the first phase three program to actually evaluate FPRE in a clinical trial setting, there is an opportunity for us to educate, and that's very much part of our work from here on out.
Our next question comes from Greg Harrison with Bank of America.
Hey guys, thanks for taking the question. Just one follow-up on IGAN. Have you discussed, the filing requirements recently with the FDA? And if so, you know, what what was the agreement there? And, you know, understanding that the data package in IGAN will be more mature than it was with FSGS, how confident are you that the FDA will be supportive of filing on that data for IGAN?
Great, thanks for the question. Bill, why don't you take this one?
Certainly. It's been, sometimes since we've had the discussion with the agency on IgA nephropathy, at our last discussions there we aligned on the overall strategy and the plan. They are consistent with what we've done with DUPLEX in that there's a proteinuria endpoint. It's a change in proteinuria at thirty six weeks. And how that relates to a change in eGFR or protection of eGFR at two years.
So that's been established and is a consistent endpoint for us. Don't see that as an issue.
Got it. Thanks.
I'm showing no further questions in queue at this time. I'd like to turn the call back to Chris Klein for closing remarks.
Great. Thank you again, everybody, for joining us on short notice. This concludes our call. We look forward to providing you updates throughout the balance of the year and continuing our open dialogue on these programs. Thank you and have a good night.
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