Greetings, and welcome to Marriott Vacations Worldwide 4th Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the I will now turn the call over to your host, Neil Goldner.
Thank you. You may begin.
Thank you, Rob, and welcome to the Marriott Vacations Worldwide 4th Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. I am joined today by Steve Weisz, Chief Executive Officer and John Geller, President and Chief Financial Officer. I need to remind everyone that many of our comments today are not historical facts and are considered forward looking statements under the federal These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties as described in our SEC filings, which could cause future To differ materially from those expressed in or implied by our comments, forward looking statements in the press release that we issued last night End of presentation we added to our website this morning as well as our comments on this call are effective only when made and will not be updated as referred to in our remarks and the schedules attached to our press release as well as the Investor Relations page of our website at ir. Mvwc.com. It's now my pleasure to turn the call over to our CEO, Steve Weisz.
Thanks, Neil. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our Q4 call. Before we get started, I'd appreciate it if you would indulge me for person with a keen understanding of not only where to take Marriott International, but also what the future look like for the hospitality industry. I think it goes without saying that leaders with a combination of outstanding intellect coupled with a passion for the business and a true ability to relate to associates at all level of the company are not easy to come by. Bill Marriott once again showed our industry his wisdom in Electing Arne to be the only person to be CEO that did not have Marriott as a last name and he chose wisely.
I'd like to take just a moment to reflect on Arne the person. I had the good pleasure to be able to work as both a colleague of Arne's as well as having him as a boss for a short period of time His unique understanding of the timeshare business and the connectedness that it had with the core lodging business helped to frame his recommendation To create 2 separate public companies as a way to unlock considerable value for the Marriott shareholders. Now, almost 10 years later, I believe that history has shown that to be an outstanding decision for the shareholders of both of our companies. I ask you to join me and all the members of our team here at Marriott Vacations Worldwide when I say thank you, Arne. Godspeed.
You will be missed, but surely not forgotten. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to express my thoughts. And now I'll proceed on to our call. What a difference a year makes. It was just 1 year ago when we reported double digit 4th quarter year over year contract growth and we were talking about the resiliency of our business model.
1 month later, we closed all of our sales centers And recommended that owners not come to our resorts due to the pandemic, even going so far as to cancel transient rental bookings. But once government restrictions started to lift, occupancies quickly returned beginning first in our drive to markets, But expanding as the year went on, illustrating timeshare owners' desire to get back on vacation. As a result, We ended the 4th quarter at nearly 70% North America occupancy. Our higher margin resort management, Financing and exchange membership businesses proved their resiliency last year with that revenue declining only 2% despite We also ended the year with more liquidity than we had at the end of the second quarter, further illustrating the strength of our leisure focused business model. Sitting here today, I'm extremely optimistic about the Continued recovery in our business.
Occupancies in a number of our drive to and fly markets are holding up well. And as more and more people get vaccinated, I expect some of the pent up demand to continue to manifest itself. In fact, reservations on the books for the second half of the year are currently 8% higher than they were at the same time in 2019. So while the recovery most likely won't be So while the recovery most likely won't be linear and government actions could pause it in some markets, I do expect our business to continue to improve as we move throughout the year. We announced in January the pending acquisition of WELK Resorts, one of the largest remaining independent timeshare operators, resorts primarily on the West Coast with approximately 1400 Keys, more than 55,000 owners And over 3 years of built inventory.
These resorts will be a great addition to our portfolio and we intend to rebrand all of the wealth resorts While providing us substantial future growth opportunities.
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combination of margin improvement and sales growth, We expect the acquisition to generate between $60,000,000 $70,000,000 in adjusted EBITDA by 2024, if not sooner, making this both a very attractive financial transaction as well as a great strategic one. So let's talk about our Q4 results starting with our vacation ownership business. While 2020 was certainly And being in the timeshare business with our much larger square footage units and amenities, coupled with the prepaid nature of our was clearly a more attractive option for our owners and guests as evidenced by our strong occupancies in many of our locations. To give you a few examples, occupancy at our Florida Beach Resorts averaged in the mid-seventy percent range during the quarter, including nearly 80% for the month of December. Our South Carolina resorts ran in the low 70% occupancy range during the quarter.
Our Colorado and Park City Mountain Resorts averaged nearly 75 60% in November December, while our U. S. Virgin Island Resorts ran over 70% during the quarter. Even some of our larger markets that have previously lagged the recovery continued to improve during the quarter. For example, Orlando, which represents more than 20% of our North America Keys, averaged about 50% occupancy during the quarter, Roughly double the occupancy we ran in quarter 3, including nearly 70% during the holiday break.
Hawaii, Which ran low single digit occupancies in the 3rd quarter, lifted its restrictions on October 15th and averaged nearly 50% occupancy during the 4th Excluding Kauai, where the 14 day quarantine restrictions were reinstituted in early December. VPGs were again very strong during the quarter, including 9% year over year growth North America VPG was up 17%, excluding Hawaii. We continue to benefit from a higher mix of existing owners as well as higher promotional activity. As a result, we increased contract sales by 27% sequentially from the 3rd quarter, Despite the increased government restrictions in California and Kauai in December. Within the other parts of our vacation Our stickier management fees delivered 3% year over year revenue growth in the quarter.
Our financing Revenue declined slightly on a year over year basis in the quarter despite significantly lower contract sales, reflecting the nature of this high margin revenue stream. And rental revenue grew 29% sequentially from the 3rd quarter, reflecting the broader travel recovery. Our Interval International business also continued its recovery during the Q4 with interval exchange transactions increasing 17% on a year over year basis, reflecting members' desire to travel as well as from pent up demand. Before turning the call over to John, I want to talk about synergies. As you might remember, we increased our synergy target to at least $200,000,000 back in November.
These are permanent savings that will not return with volume and will help us drive substantial margin improvement going forward. We made a lot of progress in the Q4 and by the end of 2020, approximately $135,000,000 of these synergies Have been achieved on a run rate basis, getting us closer to our target. So let's talk about where we go from here. In late January, we reopened the California sales centers that we closed in December. So that still leaves Kauai and a handful of smaller sales centers that haven't reopened yet.
But with sequentially in the Q1. We ended the year with a tour pipeline of more than 165,000 sold packages with more than 30% of those already activated. That means more than 50,000 customers have already booked their vacation and related tour for Pipeline engine after curtailing it last year, which will add future tours. We were very pleased with the sequential recovery at Interval last year with exchange transactions growing nicely in the second half of the year. 1 of Interval's corporate customers has decided not to renew its affiliation going forward, choosing only to offer its owners membership in its own internal exchange program instead.
It's important to note that only a portion of these 165,000 members are active Interval users and we have been marketing to them since mid last year. We've already retained a high percentage of those who have been active users, reflecting the breadth of Intervals offering. So we expect the bottom line impact on our business going forward will be largely immaterial. Finally, a recent survey showed that 1 third of American travelers have begun planning and booking Trips, specifically in anticipation of vaccines being available. Searches on the Marriott Vacation Club owner website We show a rising interest in getting back on vacation with January searches for keywords such as book and make a reservation Four times higher than the prior year with a clear sign of increased demand for Orlando.
However, more than half of the people we've surveyed have also stated they will not travel until they get their vaccination. That's reflected on our Q1 bookings, which With that, I'll turn the call over to John.
Thanks, Steve, and good morning, everyone. Today, I'm going to review our Q4 results, the recovery we've continued to experience across our business, The status of our synergy initiatives and the overall strength of our balance sheet and liquidity position. Our 4th quarter results reflect a strong sequential improvement from the Q3, illustrating the resiliency of our business with resort occupancies, contract sales And exchange transactions all improving. As a result, we reported $72,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA for the Q4, more than doubling our Q3 results, once again demonstrating the strength of our leisure focused business model. Looking first at our vacation ownership business, with continued with the continued improvement in occupancies, contract sales improved 27% sequentially.
We also saw a significant improvement in our development profit this quarter, with adjusted development margin increasing to $14,000,000 compared to just $6,000,000 in the 3rd quarter. And our stickier resort management and financing businesses again provided a strong contribution to our bottom line. As a result, our Vacation Ownership segment delivered $73,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA in the quarter, a significant improvement 10% lower than the prior year due to reduced ancillary revenue resulting from lower year over year And limited operations at many of our outlets. We did, however, see a 3% increase in our stickier High margin management fee revenues. As I've mentioned in the past, the majority of the financing revenue we Business delivered $39,000,000 of profit in the quarter, only a $1,000,000 decline from the prior year, reflecting the stickier nature of this revenue stream and the benefits of our synergy and cost saving initiatives.
We have continued to work closely with owners who have temporarily lost their income due to the virus, deferring loan payments where we can. By the end of the quarter, roughly 1.5% of our borrowers had taken advantage of this program, speaking to the creditworthiness of our owners. In addition, more than 40% of these borrowers who had a payment due by the end of the quarter had made it. We now expect to experience a slightly higher COVID related default than we estimated back in Q1 and took a $13,000,000 net charge this quarter to increase our notes receivable reserve. Similar to our treatment in May, we have excluded this charge for adjusted EBITDA purposes.
The great news is that by the end of the year, delinquency rates at all of our brands were in line with 2019 levels, and we've continued to see both sequential and year over year improvement thus far in 2021. Finally, our rental business has also continued to improve. Transient keys rented were up 34% versus the 3rd quarter, reflecting improved occupancies. Similarly, rate improved 1% from the 3rd quarter. As a result, while our rental business Generated a $24,000,000 loss in the 4th quarter that represented more than a 40% sequential improvement.
Turning to the Exchange and Third Party Management segment. Exchange transactions at our interval business were up 17% in the 4th quarter compared to the prior year. Average revenue per member was down nearly 5%, primarily due to a decline in getaway rentals in other travel related services. As a result, adjusted EBITDA was $28,000,000 in the 4th quarter, with margins in line with prior year despite lower revenues, reflecting the benefit of our cost saving initiatives. G and A expense declined $27,000,000 a 45% improvement from the prior We achieved this primarily through a combination of synergy savings, lower costs associated with furlough and reduced work week programs, Lower overall spending across the business on technology, travel and training and $4,000,000 of savings due to the CARES Act retention tax credit we received in the quarter.
Moving to the balance sheet, our liquidity increased by roughly $60,000,000 in the second half Of last year, we ended the year with nearly $1,300,000,000 in liquidity, including $524,000,000 of unrestricted cash, 147,000,000 of gross notes receivable that were eligible for securitization and 597 Earlier this year, we issued $575,000,000 of 0% Convertible notes due 2026, reflecting the strong demand from investors. We used part of the proceeds to enter into a call spread transaction, increasing the conversion price to roughly $2.14 per share, 70% higher than our stock price on the day we priced the offering. We plan to use a portion of the net proceeds to finance the wealth transaction, And we also used $100,000,000 of proceeds to pay down a portion of our term loan. We still have no corporate debt maturities September 2022, which is our 2017 convertible notes, and that's only $230,000,000 Given the uncertainty and the timing of the recovery, we also extended the suspension of our financial maintenance covenant in our revolving credit facility through the end of this year. Before I move to 2021, let me touch briefly on our $200,000,000 plus synergy goal.
While the pandemic did cause us to temporarily pause some of the work on these initiatives, we made very good progress throughout As Steve mentioned, by the end of 2020, our run rate savings was approximately $135,000,000 Of which, roughly $85,000,000 of the program to date savings has been realized in our 2020 earnings. That means there is roughly $50,000,000 of run rate savings achieved by the end of 2020 that haven't been fully realized yet, all of which will Benefit this year's financial results. Looking forward, we continue to aggressively pursue additional synergy and cost savings On our way towards delivering at least $200,000,000 of total run rate savings by the end of 2021. Looking ahead, we still have limited visibility on the trajectory of the recovery. And while we will not be providing full year guidance this morning, I do want to help you think through what the Q1 could look like as there are certain items that will impact our results.
These include reinstating a portion of our variable compensation plans and bringing back associates to work to support the further recovery of the business. In total, we expect the impact of these incremental costs in the Q1 to be roughly $10,000,000 which will be spread throughout the business. In our Vacation Ownership segment, we have seen our business recover nicely and expect it to continue into the Q1. From a development perspective, given that most of our sales centers have already reopened, we expect Contract sales to grow sequentially to $190,000,000 to $210,000,000 in the Q1, with a higher percentage of that amount coming in March. As a result, we are expecting roughly $15,000,000 to $20,000,000 of negative EBITDA reportability in the Q1 compared to the $7,000,000 benefit we had in the Q4 of 2020.
It's important to remember that this is only timing. In addition, we are projecting higher marketing and sales costs in the Q1 as we ramp up tour production, Which will negatively impact our adjusted development margin in the quarter, but will help drive future sales. In our resort management business, we expect the recurring management fees to remain stable and ancillary margins to improve compared to the 4th quarter as occupancies continue to recover. However, given the timing of certain fee revenues as well as the higher costs I mentioned earlier, We expect our VO management and exchange profit to be flat or down slightly on a sequential basis. In our rental business, we expect occupancies and rate to grow sequentially, reflecting the continued recovery in leisure travel, as well as normal seasonality.
This will be partially offset by higher maintenance fee expense, largely associated with higher inventory balances. As a result, we expect rental profit expense on a declining debt balance are offset by lower interest income from a declining notes receivable portfolio. Turning to our exchange and third party management business, we expect transactions at our interval business to continue to improve a few percentage points year over year, reflecting the recovery. We also expect average revenue per member to be largely unchanged on a year over year basis. Finally, we expect G and A could be down roughly 20% on a year over year basis, reflecting the ongoing benefits of our synergy work and restructuring Efforts partially offset by reinstating our variable compensation incentive plans, Associates returning back to work to support the further recovery of the business and lower CARES Act retention tax credits.
Turning to cash flow, while we're not giving annual guidance at this time, I did want to highlight some timing aspects of our Cash flow for the year as well as longer term benefits to our cash flow given our current inventory position. As we've discussed before, the largest component of our rental expense is maintenance fees on unsold inventory. Like any other owner, these fees are typically due at the end of the year or early in Q1. This causes our rental business to be a drag on cash flow in the Q1. However, once we get past the Q1, a disproportionate amount of our rental revenue tends to turn into free cash flow And the business continues to and as the business continues to recover, this year should be no different.
In our vacation ownership had commitments to purchase another $165,000,000 this year with a large portion of this happening in the Q1. When you add in the excess inventory we are acquiring with the Welk acquisition, that brings our total inventory balance to more than $1,100,000,000 Or $580,000,000 of excess inventory at a normalized sales pace. So as our contract sales continue to ramp up and with limited inventory commitments going forward, we expect to generate significant free cash flow over the next few years as we monetize this excess inventory. With that, Steve and I will be happy to answer your questions. Rob?
Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. Our first question comes from David Katz with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, David. Good morning, gentlemen. I appreciate all of the detail. I wanted to go back on 2 things, if I may. There's so much discussion about pent up demand.
And if we could maybe break that down just a little bit farther, Right. We would expect that there is pent up tours, right, pent up marketing packages, You know, pent up visitation, right. But can you maybe give us just a bit more detail as to how we would break down The notion of pent up demand, which seems obvious and intuitive, but some more detail would help.
Sure. So if you look, I think I reported in my remarks that the second half of the year looks like We're 8% higher than we were at the same time in 2019. If you look at the first half of the year, it's actually down 16% On the same comparable basis to where we were in 2019. However, the bulk of that is largely in Q1. Q2 is down a couple of points.
But so when you average it all out for the full year, it's down about 8%. I think it all stands to reason if you sort through it. I mean, as I reported, people are Anxious to travel, they're already looking to book travel, but they want to make sure that they have the benefit of the vaccine. You've heard about the rollout of Seems in some prognostications that the bulk of America will be vaccinated by the summer. So I think that all kind of syncs Well with how it's and the other point, and I can't regurgitate the number, but there was a huge percentage of the population in 20 20 that never took a vacation.
That stands to reason given the circumstances we all found ourselves in. So, In addition to their normal inclination to take a vacation, I think it's been amplified by the fact that they haven't been able to get away in 2020. So that's the best visibility we can give you right now. The 80% of our sales In our resorts, come from people that are in residence at our resorts. 50% basically are in house Guests and another 30% are people that are on vacations are on packages.
So as our resorts continue to fill up, We'll continue to see sales grow proportionately.
Understood. And just a To bring in terms of tour flow sales, visitation, anything qualitative, because I think we For your name, we usually think of you with Marriott, but there's this other thing there too.
Sure. I think probably the easiest way to think about it is that when we acquired ILG, I would tell you that The Hyatt vacation residence businesses was basically relatively dormant In terms of what people were doing actively to try to grow the business, I think I've reported in previous calls that When ILG acquired Hyatt, they had 16 resorts. And when we acquired ILG, they had 16 resorts. That was 4 years later. So we do believe that there is quite a bit of opportunity there.
In the wealth business, The way in which they typically source customers because they didn't have kind of one of the major hospitality brands affiliated with it. They did a lot through sports marketing and OPC venues, where they generated customers. Typically speaking, those are Low yield, high cost kind of channels to source customers out of. We believe that we will start to strip out Some of those costs as we replace them with things where we'll continue to obviously look to penetrate the World program just as we have done in the Marriott Bonvoy program. We will continue to change practices about How sales are done at the site level?
For instance, putting in the equivalent of our Encore program, which Has proved to be very successful for us and has a very high VPG number. We'll put that in. And the only caveat I would throw into this is, it's going to take us a little while for us to rebadge the Welk Resorts as Hyatt. Call that the end of this year, Q1 next year. But then there's another impediment to being able to integrate All the inventory and that is the fact that wealth today is an RCI affiliate, not an Interval International affiliate.
So that makes Putting an exchange program in place, much as we have done on the Marriott side, a little more problematic. That affiliation Ends in 2022. And obviously, we would look to then re affiliate, well back with Interval From whence they used to be, by the way. So, I think I reported that we said that We think by 2024 and hopefully sooner, it's going to mean somewhere in the neighborhood of $60,000,000 to $70,000,000 adjusted EBITDA. I think we should look to take their development margin, which is today low single digits Up into that 20% to 30% range.
And contract sales, obviously, we want to try to grow Substantially, and we think contract sales by 2024 could be $160,000,000 to $180,000,000 in that range Roughly.
Perfect. Just to add a reference, David, I'd add there, I mean that $70,000,000 Steve mentioned Versus, call it, Hyatt on a pre COVID basis of EBITDA, I mean, it is a Fraction of that $60,000,000 to $70,000,000 incremental. Just to put it in relative size, all the improvements you're talking about are really going to drive not only Top line, but on a percentage basis, huge EBITDA growth over the next 2 to 3 years within the combined Hyatt Wealth business.
Please proceed with your question.
Thoughts on timing of reopening the Hawaii sales centers? And can you give us a little bit of additional color How some of those preliminary reservations and bookings book for Hawaii going forward? Thank you.
Yes. As I think I reported, I mean, Hawaii, ex Kauai, are running at roughly 50% occupancy. Now there's Still the requirement you have to have a negative COVID test before you arrive at the islands etcetera. Kauai is the outlier. There's still a 14 day Quarantine restriction in place, albeit, for instance, at the Kauai Beach Club where we have it, we have kind of a broader as long as you stay on Campus, you don't have to actually stay in your room or in your villa.
You can move around the resort, but it's relatively restrictive. I wish I had better visibility and is what the Mayor of Kauai is thinking. Currently, I think they're saying maybe the end of March, But we hear kind of informally that that may get extended further in Kauai. They want to make sure that the vast majority of their population has received the vaccine. Now with that said, Our sales centers in the rest of the islands are open.
And as occupancy I think you'll find that we'll continue to see a good thing. I'll give you a couple of Statistics, so just looking at this past week, Maui ran 75% occupancy, Oahu ran 85% occupancy. So that's contrasting to Kauai in the 20% range. So we feel reasonably good about Hawaii will respond. Obviously, it's a very important market for us in terms of what percentage of Not only our combinations, but also our sales are represented there.
But we think it's starting to see a rebound. Clearly, Hawaii remains an aspirational destination for the vast majority of our owners.
Yes, absolutely. And I aspire to be there in July of this coming summer.
There you go.
And then a question thank you. John, a question for you. Expectations, thoughts around a securitization or securitizations for this Thank you.
Yes, sure. We're targeting 1 here in the second quarter. Yes. Just from kind of where rates are today, we see potentially some significant improvement even over the cost of We did last year of call it 2.5%. So we still got a few months here obviously before we execute that deal, but The demand is there.
We've seen spreads continue to tighten since the deal we did last year. So The setup looks pretty good right now and no different than we've done in the past. As recovery comes back, we'll target In that, call it $350,000,000 $400,000,000 type securitization. And once again, we similar to last year and what we've done historically, we expect Probably in the 98% advance rate.
Okay, good to hear. Thank you very much.
Yes. Thanks.
Bob?
Yes, Jared, are you there?
Hello, can you hear me?
Yes. Little technical snafu there. Good morning.
All right. Good morning, everyone. Thanks So you talked about reservations being up 8% in the back half of the year versus 2019. Hypothetically, assuming that largely materializes and reservations end up coming in pretty Similar to 2019, and we assume the world is largely back to normal. Can you help us think about what that translates And 2, for contract sales and revenue relative to 2019, because obviously, I know there's a little bit of a lag.
You're not going to have The same level of new owner sales, I think the financing portfolio is obviously smaller today than it was then. So I think we're kind of struggling to understand what that revenue ramp is going to look like assuming the forward bookings end up materializing. So anything you can kind of share to help us think about those puts and takes would be helpful.
Sure. Hey, Jared, it's Yes, I'll kind of step through some different parts here of the business. Clearly, like we've always said, the majority of our sales come on Right. So as occupancies come back in a combination of owners, packages, all the tours and all that, as well as the rental side, That all bodes well when you're doing 80 plus percent of your sales from people, if you will, staying at the resort, right? So I would expect if to your point, you get back to those occupancies, that should be help wise.
I think there will be a greater mix of owner usage in the second half of the year versus Being able to maybe the package tour, so we're working through all that. There's pros and cons with that. Obviously, owner sales have higher VPGs or more efficient, But they typically come at, on average, a lower overall first time purchase, right? And so there's that mix there. But I think we're continuing to build the pipeline is back in market and that includes reopening linkage that we have in a lot of our resorts.
But the one thing we are going to start to not bring back, if you will, and really look to focus more on our package pipeline to replace Was on the really, excuse me, on the Sheraton side, some of the off premise contact, mainly in Orlando and Myrtle Beach. So That not a huge percentage of the tours, but we're not looking to turn those low efficient tours back on. It's going to be better cost Going forward, but it's also going to help us with better VPGs. So I do think if you kind of get back to that on a run rate basis in 4th Quarter, you're going to get your contract sales closer to where you were in 'nineteen and have a great Opportunity to obviously improve on that as you go into 2022, right? And the other parts of the business So recover with occupancies.
I mean the resort management, where we are missing a little bit right now is just the on-site ancillary business Right. So once again, as those occupancies come back in the 3rd and 4th quarters, we should be able to drive that ancillary profit and get that year over year growth going. Financing, the good news is, notwithstanding the notes receivable balance has been coming down like we talked about here for the Q1, given the timing of some of the interest Expense as well as synergies and other costs we have continued to take out of the business, we expect financing profit in the Q1 to be relatively flat From the Q4, right? So that's all and then as sales start to go back up and we start to grow that notes receivable balance later in the year, Hopefully, we will start getting us growing our financing profits as we move through the end of this year into next year. And so the other big question mark is We'll continue to have some of that compression, if you will, of owners wanting to stay more in the second half of the year.
We've got, as Steve mentioned, Lower occupancy here in the Q1, less nights on the books right now. So with that compression of owner, that will impact our ability to do open market rentals. But once Again, the offset is you have more owners staying at the resort and that's going to help you on the contract sales side. So not necessarily a horrible trade off, but Rentals will take a little bit more time to come back as you go through 2021. But once again, as you start to get into 'twenty two, Assuming more normalized occupancies, a lot of that shift in compression will start to make its way through the system.
And then on the exchange and third party management side, we continue to see sequentially here some growth there in terms of the business coming back, so hopefully from here it's that kind of continued progression up. Obviously that business was not is impacted In terms of revenues going down as much as the VO business, so very resilient. And then our G and A, once again and more broadly, just the synergies that we're talking about, that's going to help too in the recovery here going forward.
Hey, Jared, let me just add one other thing, and this is probably not a surprise to you. In 2019, I don't have the exact number here in front of me, but I think what we typically call linkage sales, With your people that are staying in hotels, in markets where we have sales centers, etcetera, those were close to a couple $1,000,000 worth of sales. Obviously, as hotel occupancies continue to lag the recovery that we're seeing, There would be less people for us to be able to target and recruit tours from. And so that's just another little bit of a headwind that we have to face. But everything that John just articulated very well in my opinion, should come into play.
And I said In my remarks, I said I'm very optimistic about how we look how this year is building and what it's going to deliver for us towards the end of the year.
Okay. Thank you very much for that. And then, John, just going back to the Q1, you gave a lot of really helpful Commentary on a bunch of different line items, which I'm going to have to go back and aggregate. But at a high level, to summarize, You did $72,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA in the Q4. Do you think Q1 is higher or lower than that number based on all of the puts and takes you gave us?
Yes, it will be lower primarily due to the revenue reportability, right? We always have. And this should just keep this in mind as the business recovers every quarter, right? In a normal year, we've got Revenue reportability in the Q1, that's negative, right? Because your March end of February, March is typically higher contract Sales, then that November, December, right?
And as we've talked about in the past, that notwithstanding contract sales being higher, you don't get Necessarily the benefit of that until the Q2, right, when those contract sales close. What you have now in a recovery, right, is that's even more exaggerated, Right. So not only do you have the normal seasonality of that November, December timeframe, you have the acceleration of sales Quarter to quarter, right? And that's why it's going to be a little bit more pronounced. And arguably, right, if the recovery continues, you're going to see that Kind of every quarter, right?
And even on a full year basis, just given where you ended up 2020, you're probably going to have higher negative report for the full year. Once again, just timing, right? It's just the nuance of when we actually make the sale and when it actually comes through the P and L. But That's going to be as you think about the recovery. That's why we always report contract sales.
It's a better leading indicator, Right, in terms of what's happening in the business, people buying, etcetera, but the reporting lags that a bit. So That's your biggest thing. I mean, obviously, we've got synergies that are helping offset cost increases, but we're bringing back we paid No bonuses in 2020, right? We started to factor some of that back in here as we get back to a more normalized basis. We've got reduced Most likely, depending on what happens with any new anything that the Biden administration might do from a COVID relief package, we're expecting Less tax credits from the retention tax credits and things that were in the previous package.
So that's where you do have a little bit of just as part of the recovery. And We still don't have all our people back to work, right? We've been managing that, bringing it back with the top line growth. So on a pure Cost perspective, yes, you've got some things here that will continue to come back with the recovery.
Okay. Thank you very much for all that color. I'll jump back in the queue.
Yes.
Our next question comes from Ben Chokun with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, thanks for taking my question. Just to clarify Jared's question. So maybe you're looking just at the VOI business. Should contract sales follow bookings, which I think you said in the back half of the year was plus 8% for the back half of the year or Higher or lower, sorry, just maybe had a little bit trouble following that.
Well, I think it's just to clarify. We said that our bookings for the second half of the year are 8% higher than they were at this time for 2019, which obviously gives you a sense What the relative demand is for that period of time. Given the fact that 80% of our sales come from people that are in house, then one should conclude That the velocity of sales growth will in fact continue to grow as we get into the subsequent Quarters to the
Q1. Just to Ben, on the occupancy, right, just take 4th quarter North America occupancy, Which I think was in 60%, 68%. North America was 7%. Right. So If occupancies get back to the 90 plus percent, right, we normally run and what we're saying is what's on the books today is showing that Trajectory, right, we still need to see how it recovers.
Your occupancy on a percentage basis is going up, call it 40%, if you will, right? That's what's going to drive your contract sales on a relative basis. It's not the the 8 points is just telling you where you're at Today versus where you're at the same time in 'nineteen. But the bigger story is that recovery of occupancy from where we're at today, right, To something in that 90 plus percent range, which is what we would have run-in 2019.
I got you. Makes sense. That's helpful. And then just a quick clarification on the $200,000,000 in synergies. Can you give us maybe broad strokes or I don't know how much granularity you have, but basically what would be of that 200, what would be incremental to 2019?
Because I think you've been working on this for couple of years now. So just trying to figure out what was maybe captured in 2019 versus what would be incremental to the reported 2019 EBITDA number? Thanks.
Yes. I mean, in 'nineteen, I'm looking at Neil here, I want to say we had $40,000,000 to $50,000,000 of in the year Savings of that $200,000,000 We can get to the actual number, Ben. So it would be that to the $200,000,000 right, Apples to apples, when you get a full year run rate of the $200,000,000 it would be something in that $150,000,000 plus or minus I think of incremental as you think about
Our next question comes from Brandt Montour with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, Brandt.
Hey,
good morning, everyone.
Hey, how are you? Thanks for taking my questions. So just thinking about the sequential lift in the 1Q or the sequential progression in the 1Q versus the 4Q, I just wanted to understand if that is coming from 1 or 2 markets, 1 or 2 large markets that are improving or it's more Broad based, what did you sort of assume in that guidance?
Yes, it's clearly more broad based. As you will recall, we sell a portfolio product, so that each one of our sales center is selling the same kind of Same product that we are elsewhere. And we're seeing the build in demand To be across the waterfront, it's not focused on any one particular area. But, no, It's across the system. I guess the one area that is a little bit of interesting for us will be to see how quickly Europe And Asia Pacific respond.
Europe, there are still cross border restrictions that are in place And we'll see how long that takes to sort itself out and largely everything Asia Pacific is within country. So there's not much international travel between countries and Asia Pacific. But again, as you well know, the vast majority Of our sales are a function of what goes on here in North America, and we see that to be building very nicely.
Okay, that's great. Thanks for that. And then on the consumer loan book, and John, I think you sort of wrapped this up by giving us recent delinquency rates. But just wanted to maybe close the loop. It sounds like there's no sort of incremental reserves that would need to be taken unless Something really bad happens.
I guess the question is, what would you have to see in this year so far for a situation where you have to take more excess reserves?
Yes. I mean, clearly, I think you'd have to see something more broadly from Economic impact, remember, we took that reserve back in May, end of April, right, with our Q1 with Very limited visibility. We told you at the time that the reserve actually was based on not only what we saw, but what the Vistana business saw, Which we didn't own at the time, right? So we didn't know all their marketing practices and what they were doing, but back coming out of the financial crisis. Obviously, Yes, not the best comparison, but it was the best we had, right?
And we looked at what the falls did back then. And obviously the portfolio is different. Our portfolio was different coming into COVID than what was coming out of the financial crisis. So there were variables in there. And we took our best estimate as we've looked at it.
Brent, I mean, we think this is what we need. Delinquencies, as we mentioned, We're basically at the end of the year back to pre COVID delinquency levels. And even over the last, Call it 30 to 45 days, we've seen delinquencies by brand come down another 30, 40 basis points. So in a lot of cases, Below, right, back where we were pre COVID last year. And the only other final point I'd make on that is which Yes.
It's on a declining notes receivable balance, meaning that's a headwind, right? As you originate new notes and you're growing the balance, your Apples to apples because you have more newer notes generally would trend down, right? We're on a declining and we continue to trend down. So I think it all frames up. It's What we think we need here going forward, but, yes, I mean, we feel like we got a little bit better sense as to how the notes have performed over the last 8 or 9 months obviously with the impact of COVID.
Makes sense. Thanks a lot, guys. Thank you. Our next question comes from Jared Shojaian with Wolfe Research. Please proceed with your question.
Welcome back.
Thanks for taking my follow-up. So you talked about the excess inventory you have on hand, the $580,000,000 and that you expect significant free cash flow over the next few years. Can you help us frame A way to think about that in terms of maybe a historical conversion rate versus a new conversion rate over the next couple of years or maybe It's an absolute number on free cash flow should be X $1,000,000 greater than normal. Like how should we think about that
Adjusted EBITDA on a more normalized cash flow, we have been converting roughly in that, call it, 55% plus or minus. What I mean by normalized free cash flow, right, that would assume that from an inventory perspective, you're replacing what You're selling off the shelf from an inventory spend. So kind of a net neutral rate as you think about free cash flow. And if you look at the conversion, right, the pieces of that, interest expense is somewhat fixed, Right. So EBITDA needs to come back to kind of where you were in 'nineteen to get that kind of same conversion, if you will, on interest expense.
Taxes, right, are going to be tied more to your EBITDA, more variable. So you'll have some flexibility in terms of how you think about cash Taxes as a percentage of EBITDA. And then the other one that's in there historically, we've spent, call it, dollars 80,000,000 to $100,000,000 of corporate CapEx. That 80 to 100, obviously, as the business is recovering, we're going to manage lower. And then as the business comes back, We'll get back to probably a more normalized levels.
So, it's really those are the different levers as you think about it. The opportunity we're talking about is As your EBITDA comes back and you get to, on a call it a 'nineteen EBITDA, more of a 55 plus or minus conversion rate, That additional $580,000,000 right, is going to help take that all else being equal, it's going to help take that up over time. Now The only thing I'll tell you is we'll continue to buy back inventory very favorably on the secondary market and do some of the things we do. So It will be a multi year recovery, but that potential of the 580 is what's kind of above or going to help your conversion ratio.
Got it. Okay. Thank you for that. And then I wanted to ask about the comment you made about 1 of the interval customers Choose not to renew. I know that's a largely immaterial bottom line impact, which you were Sang, but can you help us understand and think about the risk of other customers choosing not to renew?
And I guess what gives you confidence that this was kind of an isolated event rather than a potential new trend?
Yes. First of all, we're not aware of any other significant affiliate of InterVault's not Choosing to renew or looking to do something alternatively. I think the other thing I'd point out, typically speaking in the exchange business, As you know, it's kind of a 2 horse race. It's interval and it's RCI. And usually, it's a share game.
If an affiliate was an RCI member, it comes to Interval or vice versa, it's just moving back and forth. In this particular case, This affiliate chose not to be involved with any external exchange company. They have decided that they believe that the strength of Their individual portfolio is strong enough to support the needs of what their owners are looking for in terms of being able to find alternative vacation experiences. I think that will remain to be seen. Now with that said, you may recall that back in 2010 when we went to Points, We put our own captive internal exchange system in place for people to be able to If they wanted to go from 1 Marriott branded resort to another, they didn't have to go through Interval in order to get there.
So this may be a page out of that same book that this other developer is choosing to go to. We'll wait and see. We always maintained our affiliation with Interval only because There are locations in the world where we don't have product or vacation experiences that people want to go to, which I think is one of the strengths of either the 2 exchange I happen to think that Interval is a higher quality exchange company. But be that as it may, this is a decision they've made, but we're again, we're not aware of anybody else that's contemplating a similar move.
Great. Thank you so much for all the time.
Thank you.
Thanks, sir. We have reached the end of the question and answer session. At this time, I'd like to turn the call back over to Steve Wise for closing comments.
Thank you everyone for joining our call today. 2020 was certainly a difficult year for the hospitality industry, But I also proved how strong our business model really is. People like to vacation and when they own their vacations, they try to find a way to use it. You really don't need to look much further at the Q3 results to see just how resilient our business really is. Track sales increased 27% sequentially.
Interval exchange transactions grew 17% on a year over year basis. Adjusted EBITDA margin improved nearly 6.50 basis points sequentially from the 3rd quarter and our run rate cost Screw to roughly $135,000,000 in 2020, nearly double where we were at the end of 2019 And taking us even closer to our goal of at least $200,000,000 in savings. Looking forward, our tour pipeline is now more than 165,000 packages sold with more than 50,000 of those customers already booked for this year. And reservations on the books for the second half of this year are 8% higher than at the same time in 2019, illustrating the pent up demand we think will start to manifest itself later this year. As always, thank you for your interest in Marriott Vacations Worldwide.
Take care of yourselves. And finally, to everyone on the call and your families, stay safe and enjoy your next vacation.
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