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Earnings Call: H1 2023

Sep 18, 2023

Operator

Okay, that looks like we have everyone online. So I'll just introduce you to Stephen Newton, CEO of Elixirr, and Graham Busby is the CFO of Elixirr, and they are here today to talk through their financial results for the first half of the year, 2023. I shall pass over to you, Stephen.

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

Thank you very much, and thank you for all of you, who are attending this call. I know there are a couple of new, potential investors, and obviously for those of you who have been supporting us so far, thanks very much for that. And hopefully, after you've seen our results, you'll be very pleased with how the business is performing. Louise didn't mention Nick, who's our FD. He's also here, so, Nick will be, part of this presentation, too. So let's dive straight in, and I presume we're gonna try to take questions at the end, but if there's something that people would like to, ask during the flow, please feel free to, attempt to interrupt us and we can answer it there and then. W e can do both.

Please feel free to do that in 2023, great began fantastically and it's been going very well this year. We're very happy with the momentum in the marketplace and I think the one thing that we're particularly satisfied with is the strategy that we've been building on since we IPO and had the capital raise to be able to buy businesses, et cetera, and diversify into different industries and geographies is really starting to pay off. I think, we've seen that some of our competitors are commenting about the market being very difficult, and to us, we just carry on as normal.

I mean, the diversification strategy is working perfectly for us, because we have industry diversification, and because we have geography diversification, and because we have capability diversification, all of that's really leading to a robust and resilient business, and we're very happy about that, and we will continue to do that. If you look at the next slide, I've put a bit of a concept chart here together to give everyone a bit of a sense to what our actual strategy is. W e first started, if you look at the middle of that circle diagram there, there's four words there: innovation, data, digital, and artificial intelligence.

Now, innovation was our first capability we invested in heavily prior to IPO, and we use it as a sort of a tip of the arrow to get into a client and help them become more creative and to create new revenue streams, and even in some cases cost reduction opportunities. But we use that as a tip of the arrow to sell all our other services, which you can see, the design thinking, change management, digital, all the stuff sitting in the dark, in the darker blue. In actual fact our largest financial services client came this way. They asked us to do some innovation work with them, and in the end, we provide all our services to them around that you see on that wheel.

We believe this to be a very differentiated strategy, and this is why we invested in digital with our acquisitions of Den and Coast, and that's working equally as well as our innovation story. And likewise, last year, we invested in iOLAP for data and technology, which is the one you see down the bottom. Now, today, we obviously announced the acquisition of a company called Responsum, and Graham will go into the detail of this, but it's a natural language artificial intelligence system, and the power of it is absolutely unbelievable. I think for those of you who've been in business quite some time will remember the emergence of the Internet. We today don't even believe that we could have existed without the Internet.

But to me, artificial intelligence is gonna have as big an impact on business as the Internet does today. We don't know a business who doesn't do digital, and use the Internet in some way to differentiate their business or to even compete, because candidly, if you're not in the market using the Internet nowadays, you're not in the market. T his is gonna be the same with artificial intelligence, and this is why we invested in this technology, 'cause we wanna be able to, just like our other technologies, capabilities, digital data, and our innovation capability, we wanna use that as a tip of the arrow to be able to help our clients, understand what they can get from artificial intelligence and how they can deploy it to make a material difference, both to their revenue and operational efficiency.

Graham is gonna give you some very specific examples of how we've done that. For those of you who don't know, we did announce a partnership with Responsum some time back now, and maybe it was two or three months ago. We've seen about 40 brand-new opportunities coming into our pipeline, and Graham will talk to you a little bit more about that because clients are clamoring to kind of get an understanding of how they can use artificial intelligence and what difference is it gonna make to their business. The only other point I'd point out on this chart that I think I'd like to highlight here is, I will, I will be taking in a remuneration model.

I've spoken to quite a few people in the industry now, and everyone is actually pretty envious of our remuneration model, particularly for our partner team and the way we can buy our employees into this as well. And it's definitely market leading and definitely unique. Even other listed companies don't deploy this kind of remuneration model, and you will see later, we're getting continued improved performance from our partner team, and I suspect a lot of this has got to do with the fact that they're super motivated and are a hundred percent aligned with investors in this room. I don't see any other model that could be more aligned, and it is starting to really pay off, too, in the organic part of our business.

So, if I may just point you to the opportunity, we're not stopping here. There's other very, very big technologies that are out there that are just as a case in point, probably you can just see there, the research is showing that the AI machine learning marketplace is about $1.8 trillion by 2030. So we wanna get in on the ground floor and really be a key player in helping clients embrace this technology in the same way as they have had to embrace digital and the Internet, if you like. Clearly, big data, we've made that investment, as I say, last year, and the one other that we're looking at actively is looking at things like cybersecurity, for example.

And obviously, we if we find any further machine learning opportunities, we'll be investing in those, too. What is nice about this concept is you can see that there's also capabilities that we could also invest in. So M&A type thing, competitive intelligence, cultural transformation, just to name a few, are opportunities that we would be looking for companies or even organic growth into those skill areas. And likewise, you can see the orange boxes, the orange bubbles you can see around the outside, those are the industries we're in today. But healthcare, energy, telco provide fantastic consulting opportunities. Very big markets.

And this sort of tip of the arrow strategy that we're adopting around these core technologies to get us into all of the consulting that, and the change that happens as a consequence, we believe will work equally as well in these three industries. W e're looking for both organic and acquisition targets in these areas and clearly, the final sort of link to the diversification strategy that we're on is the DACH and Asia regions are obviously very, very big markets for consulting in and of themselves, so we'd also look to diversify into that. And actually, in a way, we might, we might be a UK-listed company, but we're actually not a UK company. So that's quite interesting. So, while we might be listed on the AIM Stock Exchange, we're actually almost.

More than half our business now comes out of the U.S. and if you add in our European and South African business, it's almost 60%-70%. So, and that trend will continue to grow. So, it's an interesting investment proposition for, for UK investors because we are actually a global business, and, the, the behavior of our business is affected by global markets more than it's actually affected by UK markets, so that's actually quite an interesting perspective for investors. I think I'll hand over to Graham to. Oh, no, sorry, this is me still. This is unless you want me to see it? Okay. This is, this is still me. Yeah, so a little bit about our performance, obviously, 'cause that's kind of what you want to hear about. We're very happy with our revenue growth for the half.

23% up on last year, 14% underlying, and Nick will show you how that is calculated. Clearly, our acquisition of Responsum is a very key initiative for us and very strategic. Those of you who remember our IPO presentations will remember how we were rated below MBB on sort of our marketing, and I hope all of you have noticed how much we've been investing in our marketing capabilities, and I think we've been doing a great job and are very, very much punching above our weight there. And you can see some of the awards that are coming. Thanks, Caroline, sorry a nd you can see some of the awards that we've achieved as a result. What's even more important, though, is that our clients are clearly loving the proposition and being very sticky with their relationship with us.

Louise, maybe if we did do some work for you, you'd never get rid of us and that's a good thing. By the way, because what you can see there is, we've got a 25% increase in our gold clients. Which are clients which are greater than £ 1 million and obviously, it also, as importantly, is that in this half, we've got 20+ new clients. Revenue for partners up, and I, again, there's two main drivers for this one, I think. Firstly, the remuneration model. We've actually increased all the partners' targets for them to earn their, their options and their, their equity. So, as inflation hits and we put our, our prices up, we obviously put our targets up for our partners, so that's helping.

But also, clearly, they've, they've got more services to sell. So, if you have a relationship with, and, and you're the partner looking after two or three of our big accounts, if you add a whole set of services in, like artificial intelligence or data, as we've done over the last year and a half, that's suddenly more you can, you can bring to your, your clients, and, and that leads to an opportunity to expand the, the revenue per partner. W e will continue with that strategy, and, obviously, we'll look to add other skills and, and capabilities, as I described in the wheel. We're very optimistic for the rest of the year. Our guidance was £ 85-90.

Graham will talk to you a little bit about the confidence we have in that, but we're feeling very confident about that, and again, we'll deliver within the range on EBITDA, as we are remaining very profitable. One thing I would like to point out on EBITDA, you can see that our actual EBITDA for this half is around 30%. Graham will do that. But the important thing to note there is, even with the integration of our acquisitions, who are generally lower EBITDA when we buy them, we are able to get our group EBITDA up to 30% no problem, by actually doing the cross-selling and improving the service we deliver to our clients. I think I'll hand over to Graham and let him cover the results in a little bit more detail.

Speaker 10

Very briefly, before we do. Sorry, I'm new to the story, so this is possibly something that Louise knows very well already. I n terms of the cross-selling services, how do you manage different partners' interests and that remuneration? So if they're selling a service that isn't necessarily their own, how do you manage that internally? Is there a conflict?

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

There's absolutely zero conflict because everyone. 70% of all partner remuneration is in the share price.

Speaker 10

Okay.

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

So they're incentivized to sell anything the firm delivers to their clients, because that maximizes our share price. The more we can grow the business, assuming we can keep the costs the same and the price-to-earnings ratio stays the same, then that equals share price growth. And share price growth is how they get remunerated, so that's super important to them.

Speaker 10

Great. Perfect. Thank you very much.

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

Okay. Hello, Graham Busby, founder and CFO. So nice to either meet you or see you again, depending on who you are. Just to take you through the financial highlights of the 6 months, H1. Starting with revenue. So, highlights are, it's a record half year for us. Revenue is up 23% from £ 33.4 million to £ 41.1 million. Our partners are performing very well within this. Steph mentioned that, sorry, revenue per client-facing partner is up 24%, and underlying organic revenue has increased by 14%. We had 3 record months in the half, and August just gone was another record. So we're very pleased with kind of momentum in the business.

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

Just, if I might add on that, Graham, August is normally a quiet month because of European holidays, and for it to be a record month is actually a good indication of the strength of the business right now.

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

Yes. September, October, November are usually our, our better performing months.

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

Yeah.

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

We're very happy with August. And actually, we're still in Q3, and we've contracted more than last year's full revenue. S eeing the pipeline and our normal contracting levels from now to the end of the year, that gives us the confidence to keep our guidance in the revenue and the EBITDA that Steph just confirmed. Going to gross profit, so we delivered £ 14.3 million, which is 26% up from the year before. As ever, we continue to keep close control over pricing and management of projects, specifically utilization, so that flows through to those healthy numbers. And adjusted EBITDA, we delivered £ 12.3 million for the half at a 30% margin, so at the upper end of the 28%-30% for the half.

This was a 19% increase from the year before. You can see, or if you've looked through them yet, but you can see from the interims that there were around £ 2.2 million of adjustments from adjusted EBITDA to operating profit. Just to step through those, so roughly £ 600,000 is depreciation, of which most is the real cash cost of the capitalized offices. Roughly £ 900,000 is amortization of intangible assets. This is a slight decrease from last year, and it's a combination of trademarks, customer relationships, and customer order book, which is non-cash and will decrease over time. A small amount of M&A-related items, roughly £ 50,000, which is pretty immaterial, but that was due to no acquisition in H1 this year.

Then roughly £ 700,000 of share-based payments, which relate to the internal partner employee options. But clearly, this is non-cash and is at similar levels to last year. Looking at profit before tax, the impact of all the above means that PBT rose 17% from £ 8.4 million to £ 9.9 million. But if you exclude the impact of the M&A-related net credit of £ 0.5 million in H1 last year, which was the reversal of the contingent consideration for Retearn, actually means that PBT represented an increase of 25%. EPS, adjusted diluted EPS of 18.5 pence for the half year, which is an increase of 23% to last year's figure.

This reflects 11% effective dilution to the impact of unvested options in the SPP and the iOLAP deferred consideration. Effective dilution is actually down 1% to the same time last year, and that's due to the settlement of the iOLAP FY 2022 contingent consideration being satisfied through a cash payment, which was about $7.4 million, with a commitment to buy shares from the EBT, and that was to minimize dilution for all shareholders. Our net cash has-

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

Just, can I just-

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

Yeah.

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

Pardon you there, Graham? Just to reemphasize that, where we can, we will constantly seek to use our cash rather than to dilute shareholders. So even though we've bought companies on a roughly third, third, third model, where a third is cash, a third is equity, and a third is earning, even the earning, if we can, we'd rather give. If they do earn, and by the way, that's a good thing that they earn because it means they're meeting all their targets, we will use cash to settle that earning, but then expect we do a back-to-back contract where they have to buy shares from our EBT.

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

Very good point. And, the net cash impact of that is we've increased by £ 8.4 million over last year's like-for-like. So we've risen from £ 11.1 million to £ 19.5 million, and Nick's going to step you through the ins and outs of how that actually played out. So moving to financial performance. So just looking at a little bit at our track record. You can see from the graph there, we've shown consistent growth, not just from FY 2018, actually, but since 2009 when we started. And actually, if you look at the growth, revenue growth from H1 2020 to H1 2023, that's a 45% revenue CAGR, which we're very proud of. So that's essentially from when we IPO through to now.

And that's versus an 8% consulting market CAGR. So just again, proves that we're gaining market share, not just each year, but each half. And that's primarily around the four pillars of growth that we have spoken to you about before, and Nick will go through in detail. But just to remind you, there's three organic pillars and there's one inorganic pillar. The three organic pillars are stretching our existing partners to sell more, and by giving them more capabilities through acquisitions to sell, that is a big driver in helping achieve that.

One is to hire new partners, as you will have seen, and we'll talk through in a second, that we have been hiring from the market, and obviously these, these partners, come with black books and new expertise and, ability to talk to new capabilities, so that helps us grow organically. And then promotion. We have found, that promotion and/or growing our own timber, as we kind of call it, has been an extremely successful way of having, ready-to-go partners, if you like, because they've grown up through the firm. They understand the quality bar, they understand the culture, they understand, how things work, where to get things quickly, how to, to leverage, the teams. And we found that that has been a very lucrative, space for us to, to get high-performing partners..

That will continue to be used. And then acquisition is the inorganic pillar, and I will talk to that in detail in just a bit. But before I do, I will hand over to Nick to take you through some of the revenue bridges and then the balance sheet.

Nick Willott
CFO and Company Secretary, Elixirr International

Thanks, Graham. Nick Willott, Finance Director and Company Secretary. We'll just give you the same level of transparency on our revenue development as we did at the full year. This chart shows you the overall revenue bridge, the 23% increase from £ 33.4 million in half one last year to £ 41.1 million in half one this year. If you look at the middle three blocks on the chart, the end of life, existing clients and new clients, that's our underlying organic growth of 14%. Five point three million of increase in revenue from existing clients, four point three million from new clients. And Graham, on one of the later slides, will show you some of the logos of the new clients we won in the half.

Less £ 4.8 million for end of life clients. So those are clients where we didn't deliver. We had in previous year that we didn't deliver revenue this year in the half. Although at least one of those large clients within that has come back in half two.

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

Which tends to happen.

Nick Willott
CFO and Company Secretary, Elixirr International

Which tends to happen-

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

Yes.

Nick Willott
CFO and Company Secretary, Elixirr International

because we might have a break. The client-

The client starts a new change program, and they come back. Then the other two blocks on this chart, small £ 1.5 million negative for revenue and subsidiaries that we wanted to take out of the business, typically low margin revenue and £ 4.4 million positive, which is the pre-acquisition comparative period for iOLAP, for the three months that we didn't own it in the previous year. We then move on to the next slide, which is our sort of partner view on this and how the four pillars come into play with that, with that progression of revenue in the half. The negative £ 6.5 million, which is partners that left the business in. These partners all left in 2022. We didn't have any partners leave in the first half of 2023.

But that, those partners were averaging less than £ 1 million each for the half year, so less than we would want from partners in the business. Our established partners achieved an average of £ 2.2 million of revenue in the half year. That's up from over £ 2 million in the half in the same half last year. So very pleased with that development in revenue per partner from our established partners, for the reasons Steph spoke about before, around having higher targets and having more capabilities to sell. Our promoted partners contributed £ 3.5 million positive to revenues, with 2 promoted partners performing very strongly at £ 1.8 million for the half in their first year as partners.

And then £ 2.2 million incremental revenue from hired partners. Those partners are relatively new in the business and over time, their performance is we see, already see in half two, their performance is improving and moving towards the level we want from our partners on average. And then the £ 4.4 million block, as per the previous slide, from the acquisition, pre-acquisition period of iOLAP. But overall revenue per partner increased from £ 1.65 in the half last year to over £ 2 million for the half this year. So very pleased with that 24% increase in revenue per partner. Moving on to cash. We continue to be a very cash generative business. Our EBITDA less corporation tax, virtually all turns to cash.

So, over the 6 month period, we opened with £ 20.4 million of cash, closed with £ 19.5 million of cash. So marginally down, but only marginally down because we settled all the first half of the iOLAP deferred consideration, all with cash. J ust stepping across the chart here. Operating cash inflow in the six months, £ 3.9 million. For those of you who are new to our business, we have quite strong seasonality in our operating cash flow because our annual bonuses are paid in half one. But that's a good performance operating cash flow, and we have very good controls over working capital, and so EBITDA less tax turns to cash. The negative block, £ 6.5 million outflow for acquisitions.

This was the settlement of $7.4 million, principally the first half of the iOLAP deferred consideration. As Steph and Graham mentioned earlier, we settled although we had the option to settle that through issuing shares, we settled it through the payment of cash, with those sellers buying shares, existing shares in our EBT, to avoid any dilution of our net shareholders. $2.5 million positive inflow for EBT and shareholder loan transactions, and principally that was selling shares out of the EBT that we bought in the previous year for that iOLAP deferred consideration. So close. So we closed the six-month period with £ 19.5 million of cash, so putting us in a strong position to fund both future acquisitions and, obviously, the £ 5 million dividend that we paid in August.

From a balance sheet perspective, the balance sheet continues to be very strong. Just over the 6 month period, an increase in net assets from approximately £ 96 million to approximately £ 102 million. The balance sheet is very similar to the previous December, but if I just mention the major changes, it's 2.4 million decrease in tangible assets. That's amortization and the FX movements on the value of the iOLAP goodwill. Debtors increased by 2.6 million. That's in line with growth in the business, and June is always a higher revenue month than December. But our debtor days continue to be in line with expectations. We have no issues with our blue-chip client base in terms of recoverability of our debtors.

Our liabilities decreased by £ 4.6 million, and that's principally due to settling the iOLAP deferred consideration that I just spoke about. I'll now hand over to Graham. Graham will take us through the business review.

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

Thank you, Nick. Just to give you an overview of the clients from the 6 months very happy with more than 25% increase in our gold clients. That's £ 1 million plus accounts. And at the bottom there, you can see some of the new brands that we've brought in, just in that 6 month period.O ver 20 new clients and, really pleased to see that a lot of global brands in there. And, through that whole diversification and starting with the tip of the arrow that Steph was talking about, we would hope to grow these into kind of trusted advisor status by working with them through their biggest problems.

You can see in the middle, we have been recognized again over that period with various industry awards, and the team continues to do a fantastic job in helping us to achieve that. Looking at the clients themselves, the table on the right is obviously anonymized, but gives you an idea of the spread of different clients in our top 10 by revenue. Our top 10 clients have used an average of three or more capabilities, again, because they have, we have more things that we can talk to them about. And from a diversification point of view, you can see that there are actually seven different industries there, which really helps us, with the EBBS and flows of certain industries and what may or may not happen.

It helps us kind of balance that risk by having a very nice spread. And likewise, location is a similar story, spread between UK, Europe, United States. We're still doing a lot of work in South Africa, albeit, we haven't got a top ten client in the six-month period, but we still, have plenty of other big clients, many of them in South Africa. And then the length of the relationship, again, this is a really pleasing stat for two reasons.

One, one is to see that we have long relationships with a lot of our top 10, and that they continue to trust us, for, for us to work together, but also seeing a couple of, ones in there, new clients, who've been with us for 1 year or less, who've come in and, and have quite quickly become, a big client of ours and, and us a big kind of partner of theirs. So this is something that, as a partner team, we look at every week. We, we focus, fastidiously on sales and, making sure that we are, making the most out of what we have in terms of what our clients are looking for. Which is a good lead in, I guess, to the, the news this morning of Responsum.

We're really excited to announce that acquisition. Responsum is a large language model and generative AI firm, and really, looking at that $1.8 trillion opportunity in 2030 that Steph highlighted, shows that, there isn't a company in the world, in my opinion or our opinion, that shouldn't be thinking about AI in some way, shape, or form. And having this as something that can facilitate the services that we provide to our clients, and then also give us deep technical expertise in that area, over and above what iOLAP have in the data and tech space, is really exciting. And Responsum is able to operate with platforms like ChatGPT, but importantly, within enterprise.

So, it can be trained on company data, systems, applications, things like documents, PDFs, mails, Excels, research, et cetera. And what that allows is that our clients' teams to do insight and analysis and use cases around contextual and confidential data. So, we've all seen in the news about, the worry of using other tools with kind of looking at the web and what the web has within it. Obviously, a lot of good stuff, but a lot of misleading things as well. And the reason we're really excited about Responsum is it is around an enterprise's data set. It can look outwards to websites, et cetera, but primarily it is looking at the data set.

Put simply, it helps teams be more productive. It helps improve sales performance, and it can help teams just get work done through insights and analysis. They've actually been developing over the last few years in stealth. we've formed a partnership with them, and we really want to take them to market with us to, again, facilitate the services that we can work with our clients on. Steph mentioned we've had a partnership for a few weeks, and the fact that we've had over 40 opportunities already that we are talking to, and many of which are very close to, project status.

I mean, we have eight in there, where if you just took the revenue from those eight projects, it's kind of multiples of the annual cost base of Responsum coming in. And we really do see the opportunity to work with Responsum and work with our partners. And to give you an example of one of the clients that we've been working with, we've partnered with one of the world's largest investment management firms, so hopefully should resonate with many people on this call. And they wanted to look with an ESG focus at whether or not their portfolio companies were eventually, essentially greenwashing. So were they saying they were gonna do X, Y, Z, and then actually reporting either that they haven't or that they're doing different things.

The investment team wanted to then work out how they could, use AI to understand that, but then use it to inform them of how they should be voting at AGMs and how they should be talking to management teams, et cetera. They looked at over 50 different solution providers and chose Responsum. We've carried out a proof of concept with them or several working with 100 analysts and actually just got to the end of that proof of concept, and we've reduced the manual effort of those 100 analysts in this space by 95%, and now we're rolling that out to 2,000 analysts.

Another example, working with a different client, we're working with their enterprise sales team, and we've actually put Responsum into their Slack and Microsoft Teams environment, and that's resulted in more than 70% improvement in CRM accuracy, and it's saved each member of that sales team a day a week of effort, which means they can spend a day a week speaking to clients and selling, whatever it is, services that they're selling.

This is exactly the sort of power of having this deep tech, the change that that drives is obviously extensive, and we can obviously help our clients. That's where we plan to help our clients. We design operating models, manage the change journey. Whatever happens as a consequence of these proof of concepts, which will be rolled out into the business, they need that change managed. That's a real big opportunity for us. Just to get back to the question that was answered, this is another good example. So Steph is the founder and CEO of this company. He comes in with about 60-70% of his purchase price of Responsum now owned in Elixirr shares.

So he, he actually has 100% motivation not to sell Responsum, but to sell Elixirr suite of services and vice versa. So that's a, that's a really good example of. And, and there's 40 examples, there's 40 opportunities that he's, he's mentioned there. that has come from all of my partner team, just suddenly seeing what this, this, this can do and saying, "I can find opportunities in my client base," and there's already 40 different opportunities with 18 late-stage pipelines. So really excited by this.

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

Yeah, and just to kind of make a, I guess, us, as a management team, take our own medicine, we've actually started using it internally as well. Just to give you a couple of examples, I've used it with my M&A team. So we put our M&A pipeline in there, and it allows us now to kind of search, compare, evaluate different companies with natural language. I can even get it to kind of automate drafting emails in my tone of voice to various founders, et cetera, and it's saved us a lot of time in doing that. And we've also put it,

Graham's tone of voice is a bit tedious.

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

That's why. Exactly.

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

I mean, crazy, good job.

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

Doesn't need any.

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

It's a bit machine-like.

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

Then we've got, we put it in our sales kind of environment. We put our proposals into Responsum, we've uploaded them, and what it allows us as a management team to do is actually kind of analyze, how many data proposals have we submitted? give me the two that are most comparable to X, Y, Z. They're really, things that would take hour, minutes, hours, sometimes days to kind of compare and contrast. It can do with literally the touch of a button. So we see this as adding tons of value. I mean, it already has internally for us.

It already is, with the 8-40 opportunities we've discussed and, clearly as a partner team, and as new clients that we haven't even spoken to, we see a whole host of opportunity there, and really excited about it. Just to remind you, this is the fifth acquisition we've done, fourth since IPO. Den was done pre-IPO and then Coast, which is digital marketing, Retearn, which in a bear market, it's always really nice to have for kind of procurement, supply chain, cost, services. Clearly, iOLAP last year, from a data and tech point of view, and then, yeah, as of this morning, Responsum, which gives us that generative and large language model, AI consultancy skills.

Always looking across these, it's around, finding complementary capabilities. It's about filling in that wheel, if you like, that Steph went through earlier. Typically, and quite deliberately, I said boardroom issues, that we're not looking at kind of real tactical, kind of lower down things to look at. It's boardroom issues, and it's a market play. It's not about cost. So you can see £ 19 million at the top there. that's through the cross sell, between the brands and between Elixirr, and that's revenue that none of us would have by ourselves, which is obviously additive to shareholders. that said, EBITDA, we are very good at improving. You can see the year one numbers there in kind of the middle row.

And Steph mentioned as a group, we're at 30%, so you can obviously extrapolate past year one to see what's happened with the EBITDA of those businesses. And this is something that, we are putting on repeat and will do with Responsum and, having an aligned leadership team. Steph mentioned, Steph Steinberg, the other Steph, having a huge equity incentive, and that creates that kind of alignment with our broader partner team. And you can see here on the left, and again, I've been through this previously, so I'll do it quickly, but actually the last point there, aligned deal structure, that gives us the founders and the leaders coming in with that equity participation story. But we're also, me and my team looking at kind of a programmatic approach.

So 1 or 2 deals a year, that's looking to increase market cap by 20%-30%. we see the opportunity of Responsum, given the partnership, for it to be doing that with us over the next 12 months and beyond. And, I've mentioned boardroom issues, that is key for us, but as importantly, is the quality of the services. we could buy, low quality, not just quality of the work, but quality of the earnings. There are lots and lots and lots of businesses out there, that we could be buying on a weekly to monthly basis, but the fact that we're doing one or two a year is a deliberate strategy of ours.

geographically additive, again, we don't really organically push ourselves into new geographies, but unless we get pulled there by a client, which has happened. South Africa, the US, good examples, several years ago. But a way to get into, Steph mentioned DACH and Asia. Obviously, the kind of the quicker way, if you like, and probably the most value-adding for shareholders is to do a strategic acquisition in those geographies. So I have my team, full-time team, looking at all of these things. And you can see some of the figures since IPO there. we're pretty busy. We've engaged 400 businesses over the 3 years, and ultimately boiled down to the 5 deals, 4 since the IPO.

Currently, if you broke into the pipeline that we have right now, I can put my hand on my heart and say it's the best it has been. So, we're excited at where things are, and yeah, just watch this space.

Polly Wilson
Equity Sales, Investec

Graham. Hi, it's Polly on sales at Investec. Just before we move off talking about the acquisitions, on Responsum and on the previous slide, when you talked about the £ 19 million from cross-selling synergies, I mean, do you have a number or perhaps, Steph, like, what you think that number could be as a result of the Responsum acquisition that you'd be happy to share with us?

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

No.

I don't know what I don't know. I just know that of the pipeline that we see now offers 40 opportunities, about 80%-90% of the opportunity is services related opportunity. But the downstream opportunity is just unbelievably big. I mean, just take one of those examples that Graham spoke about, right? He's doing the one we did for the large asset manager. we did a pilot with 200 people, and it's now running up to 2,000 people. This is a company that has.

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

How many people?

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

300,000 people,

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

right? So if they're gonna roll out this kind of technology into all of the hands of those people, which is what will happen with AI, because it's like the internet, it's that powerful.

It's getting you to unstructured data that allows you to query unstructured data. If you think about our proposals to clients, if anyone's seen consulting proposals, they always, almost always PDF or PowerPoint format. And if you can now use natural language queries over the top of all of your PowerPoints produced, I mean, I think we've probably done almost 100,000 PowerPoint presentations that are proposals to clients. To pull out the best examples of, say, pick a topic that we wanna talk to a client about, we can get access to that information at scale, just the flick of a finger, and it can be presented as early you want it.

So the impact of that change in almost every business is so significant that the services opportunities around that are of just almost infinite. think, how big is the, how big is the digital opportunity? Massive. This is why the number, like $2.18 trillion, is huge, but the cross-sell is definitely there. I mean, we just got to get good at doing it, and I think our remuneration model is what's actually unique about that. I've been in KPMG, IBM, Accenture, and every single one of them have a different set of fiefdom structures and a different set of PNLs, whether it's geography, capability, industry, whatever it is. As a partner in most businesses, you look after your world. You don't really care about the overall world because you're not motivated for the overall world.

But my team, my partner team, are 100% motivated for the overall world. And that means you get a set of collaboration and a set of teamwork that you just don't see in other consulting firms. You just don't see it. So that's the real opportunity. The combination of these two things will be incredibly powerful. Okay, so I think I'm probably. That's almost my closing speech.

Okay. So just in summary, we think we've got a market-leading proposition, both organic and inorganic, complementing each other, and that cross-sell story I was just talking to Polly about, that's exactly at the heart of what we're trying to do here. Clearly, I mentioned at the start, we're looking at for those things that are disrupting markets, and we're investing in the technologies that are doing that.

And we've done those investments. We've got four of them in place already, and we're looking for two or three more, and the ones that are actually currently in the marketplace. And we want, we, we do that so that our clients look to us as genuine experts in the field. there's. Take that asset manager. They looked at 50 other technologies to do their proof of concept with, and the company we just bought was the one they chose.

That's why we wanna have these deep tech skills, so we can actually then help them understand and roll out the change into a more broader business impact, which is actually the ultimate value is, the reduction in 95% of, of effort is actually a, a, a value creation and a cost reduction opportunity for clients, and that's very big for the markets that we're in right now. Again, I've mentioned this repeatedly through this conversation, but it's actually at the cornerstone of our whole DNA, is that I'm 100% aligned with every single one of you who put a pound into this business, as is Graham, as is Nick, as is every partner out there. In actual fact, as is my receptionist. Everyone wants to see the share price grow.

Everyone's doing their very best to do that, and I've never seen such an alignment of interest. It doesn't happen in other consulting firms because they're not all aligned. It's a very dog-eat-dog culture in almost every one you find, because it's, "If I can get ahead, it's at the behest of someone else," whereas in our firm, it doesn't work like that because of the way we structured the model. And again, we have the quality of an MBB. And actually, the reason that it's becoming easier and easier, Graham didn't touch on this, but he did touch on how excited we are about our acquisition pipeline. But why it's really exciting is, over the last three years, we've proven to ourselves, the market, and everyone who looks at us, that this model works.

People, when we approach them now to acquire their businesses. It's not like a private equity firm. It's not like a, another trade sale, because we're giving them opportunities that they just can't get to. You know? They can see for themselves, having started a company and being fairly successful at it, how this model can really help accelerate them. So we've genuinely created a platform for other entrepreneurs to bring their skills and capabilities to the table and multiply value for one another. And it's a really exciting proposition, and we sort of see it really work, and that makes us very, very distinct and unique. There's no other proposition out there like it. So, I'm really excited by this and, yeah, we're very bullish for the future. Question?

Speaker 11

A quick question, if you had a second. Can you hear me on the audio, working?

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah.

Speaker 11

Just, I mean, pretty detailed FT article there talking about the disruption in the global consulting arena. Your opportunity, right?

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

Right. Correct.

Speaker 11

I mean, it sort of, whether it's AI, whether it's workplace disruption, the bigger firms and quality of life, that's nudging talent in your direction, and you can monetize that ?

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

That's what this proposition is about. I mean, I said we get 4,000 applicants from the best universities in the world. We've got 500 people employed. We only employ sort of like 20-40 people a year, but we've got a dearth of talent. They look at our brand, they look at what we're doing, and they look at our positioning, and all the young kids who are traditionally going to the McKinsey, the Bains, they're all trying to get into Elixirr. when we bring people in, they all go. They talk to their friends, they go, "How do you get into Elixirr?" 'cause not a lot of people get in when they apply. And that's building a nice kind of. What's the word?

you always want something you can't get, like a, it's a p restige.

Prestige, yeah. So it's building a nice bit of prestige. So, yeah, it's absolutely the opportunity. When the world changes is when opportunity exists. And the consulting industry has been so, what's the word? Stagnant for so long, and no one's really embracing the change. So, and to be honest, I don't think the big firms can. So if McKinsey decided to go and list itself tomorrow, they'd have a huge structural problem to make that happen. They've got too many stakeholders vested in the current model for them to make that move. So this is why we started this company, is to try and make a statement about the remuneration of the industry and alignment with customers and shareholders, and make all the participants shareholders.

So that actually what we have here is a complete alignment of interests, and I don't think the industry can do that very easily. It's gonna be hard for them to do it. So we're coming at it from a sort of clean sheet. We're not encumbered by our history, where they are.

Speaker 11

Loud and clear. Cheers for that. Thank you.

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

Any other questions?

Jacob Armstrong
Equity Research Analyst, Singer Capital Markets

Morning, guys. Jacob Armstrong here from Singer. Just two quick questions from me. Firstly, can you just highlight the revenue and PBT of Responsum today, if you've got those numbers, and kind of how and where you hope that to get over the medium term? And then secondly, we're seeing a bit of a retrenchment at the Big 4 . Are you seeing, a lot of hiring opportunities there?

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

I'll answer the second one first, and I'll let Graham answer the first one. We don't hire people, we don't hire people who other firms retrench, 'cause they don't retrench their best people. So even though they are retrenching, it doesn't present an opportunity to us. We don't want what other people discard. We want the best people.

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

Jacob, with regards to the revenue of PBT, so like I said, they've been in stealth mode developing this for the past, kind of three or four years. So they do have revenue, but it's not, it's not gonna impact day one from their client base. Our revenue is more about the, the future, potential that we see. From a cost perspective, it's less than £ 1 million a year, and, like I said, from just the pipeline that we see already, we're seeing multiples of that.

Jacob Armstrong
Equity Research Analyst, Singer Capital Markets

Very clear. Thank you very much.

Callum Bell
Head of Direct Lending, Investec

Hi, it's Callum from Investec. Just, obviously, you've made an acquisition already, but you've still got a significant amount of cash on the balance sheet, and you've used shares as well. I'm just thinking, going forward, I know you're open to doing more deals, but, I mean, what specifically. Is there any areas you're looking at, geographies? I mean, what has anything changed at all? Are you seeing more or less opportunities, I guess?

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

These are the areas, Callum, that all the sort of green areas, all the areas where we're looking to add either capability or, in some cases, industry capability, in some cases, generic skills, in other cases, technology skills. So those are all the areas that we are actively pursuing. And as we said, I don't think we've had a better acquisition pipeline than we have right now. We're very excited about our acquisitions prospects. That's all I'm prepared to say at this point.

Callum Bell
Head of Direct Lending, Investec

Got it. Very clear. Thank you.

Julian Morse
Joint Chief Executive Officer, Cavendish

Hi there, Julian here from Cavendish. On that acquisition point, I mean, in terms of valuation aspirations for vendors, are they being sensible or, how is that working at the moment in the market?

As in the targets we're looking at and the conversations I'm having and the multiples that they're thinking of?

Graham Busby
Co-Founder and Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Elixirr International

Yeah. Are they, are they, are they wanting top dollar or are they being. are they realizing that actually being part of your group is gonna be far better for them, so they don't hold out for ridiculous prices or,

Just realistic views, essentially.

Julian Morse
Joint Chief Executive Officer, Cavendish

Exactly. It, I mean, they see the marketplace and kind of private equity multiples being paid and, but, IPOs, although there aren't that many of them, but the multiples in IPOs. So I, the kind of starting multiple, if you like, that we speak about, is, I have seen, lower than probably three years ago. Well, definitely three years ago. And 100% they see the opportunity. So not just in being able to kind of scale within and kind of diversify their risk, if you like, because if you think about it, the firms that we're talking to, they might have two, three, four, five kind of founders or partners or leaders or shareholders at the top table?

on day one with us, they've got 25 other senior salespeople around the globe who are incentivized to push their service or whatever it is that they do, and combine it with what we do as a group. They see the opportunity, not just for that, but also riding, hopefully, our share price increase over the next few years, which we've, been very public about wanting to be a billion-dollar business in 3-5 years.

And being part of that versus, "What if I just wait and, do it another couple of years myself, and maybe I'll be worth more?" it's actually delving into the numbers and showing the scenarios that you would have to do, like, incredibly, exceptionally well to be able to achieve the same wealth as, as, kind of, with a firm with 500 other people that have got their back, if you, if that makes sense.

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

If I may just add to that, there's. Let's say we're a £ 70 million last year firm. Let's say they're a £ 20 million firm today. If they get shares in Topco, they get the growth on the £ 70 million, not just the £ 20 million. And they're motivated to help us sell that £ 70 million and make that £ 70 million £ 90, £ 100, £ 200 million, whatever the number becomes, right? So there's that, that opportunity. What's also there, and I think it was Michael, Michael or Guy, one of the two, in their broker note recently, just, yesterday, the one that came out this morning, mentioned that, as a trading multiple, we're half Accenture. That presents.

A massive opportunity for anyone who understands this industry. if they're sitting there on a £ 20 million firm with a 20% EBITDA, and they can participate in a firm that's, has aspirations. This, this year, we're targeting 85-90, and, and next year we'll be targeting even more than that. if they can sit in that firm and see the growth on that firm, organically and inorganically, plus, when the market understands what we've got here and rates us appropriately to, to the competition, then, that's also an opportunity. And maybe that's a, a question of time as we've become bigger and become less risky, because, of course, all these things play a role in the valuation of the share price. But people see this opportunity, and, and it's very real and, and very present.

If you look at it in a year's lens, you're looking at it in the wrong way because actually all my partners are looking at it in five-year lenses. Because they're actually. And that's actually the beautiful thing about this, is that we are getting people to sign up to the journey, genuinely the journey, and not the in-year cash remuneration model that the other big firms all deploy. If you're a partnership, it's an in-year remuneration firm. you don't think about the next year until the next year happens. Whereas our partners are thinking about five years, 'cause that's how they earn their income.

Julian Morse
Joint Chief Executive Officer, Cavendish

No, that's great. I mean, half the rating and twice the growth, so, 4x the upside. It, it comes across really clear. But it comes off really clearly from you guys, the energy and the alignment. That's, it's really impressive. Thanks.

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

Thank you, Julian. Any other questions?

Mike Allen
Veteran Equity Analyst and Head of Research, Zeus Capital

Michael here from Zeus. Just following on from what, actually Cavendish, apologies, get used to it. But just following from what Julian said, just in terms of acquisitions, and well done, your revenue per customer on that growth is great. But the sustainability factor and leading into acquisitions, like Accenture, obviously has a suite of technology products. Would you say that, and I'm going on this side here, when you're talking about the global emerging technology markets, you're seeing that as the greatest growth opportunity. Would that be the largest weighting? Because a number of institutions we spoke to this morning were focusing on that sustainability factor of growth and where technology would play in that?

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

Yeah, I mean, I, it's-- If you think back to the dotcom bubble, still to this day, there is hundreds of millions of dollars spent on digital and digital transformation, which is exactly using what the technologies existed back in 2000. this isn't a. AI is not going anywhere. It's gonna be there for a long, long time. There's gonna be so many different applications of using artificial intelligence, as example, or data. this is, this-- these problems are just expanding, they're not contracting. And so that presents more and more opportunity to consult around those technologies, to help businesses embrace the change that they need to embrace and the value opportunities that exist for them. So, we, we think that this is such an expanding market that.

As I said, I think we're unencumbered by our history. We don't have to reinvent ourselves to be able to embrace this. Whereas, I think other firms have to do a lot of root-and-branch surgery to be able to be as nimble and as flexible as we can around leading out with these technologies and setting our consulting services around them.

Operator

Well, thanks very much, everyone. If anyone's got any follow-up questions and they want to get in touch, then just drop me a line and I'll be sure to pass them on to the company. But thanks very much for your time, everyone.

Stephen Newton
Founder and CEO, Elixirr International

Thank you.

Julian Morse
Joint Chief Executive Officer, Cavendish

Thank you.

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