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Earnings Call: Q2 2023

Aug 23, 2023

Erik Johnsen
CEO, B2 Impact

Good morning, and welcome to the Q2 2023 presentation for B2Holding. I am Erik Johnsen, the Group CEO, and with me today I have CFO André Adolfsen. Let's go to the next slide for the quarterly highlights. It's been a good quarter again for B2Holding. The positive trend that we have seen in unsecured collection continued in the Q2, with collection performance of 107.6% of the latest curves. For the secured business, we had a cash collection of 326 million NOK, which include REO sales of 104 million NOK at a margin of 45%. The margin year to date on REO sales is 34%. We continue to focus on cost efficiency to mitigate inflation and higher funding costs. Our focus is first and foremost to stabilize costs, but at the same time be able to grow the business going forward.

On the investment side, we see a market-changing market, the dynamics, where the industry is adapting to an increase of cost funding. For the transaction carried out in the Q2, we are comfortable with the expected increase in returns levels on the portfolio acquired. The portfolio acquired has been very good, and we see that the IRRs are at the levels that we want, including then the higher funding cost. We have invested the committed NOK 2.2 billion at the end of the Q2, which includes NOK 435 million transaction that was closed in January, but signed in December. Even adjusted for this transaction, we are well on track to reach our investment targets between NOK 2.5 billion-NOK 3 billion for 2023. Our buyback program is progressing well.

We carried out a block trade in late of June, 10 million shares of NOK 6.60, and we have so far bought back 3.3% of outstanding shares up until today. The group has ample investment capacity in combination with leverage ratio among the lowest in the industry. We have also amended our revolving credit facility, which will give us additional flexibility and increased liquidity. The main content of the amendments are that we now have full flexibility to take out the upcoming bond of EUR 200 million, which matures in May 2025, 2024, with the RCF and EUR 100 million of the facility line, which originally matured in December 2023, is extended to June 2025, which is the final maturity date of our existing RCF. André will get back to this later also. As previously mentioned...

Let's go to the next slide, by the way, for the key figures. As previously mentioned in our cash collections are up year-over-year and ended at NOK 1.5 billion. We report a record high EBITDA of NOK 1.15 billion for the Q2. It should be mentioned that the collection that we have in the Q2 goes into the Q3 and seems to be following the same trend in the Q3. The REO sales were NOK 104 million with, with a contribution of a high margin. Adjusted net profit was NOK 182 million, also due to a good outperformance in the quarter. Investment ended NOK 795 million at the Q2, which is a level that we are very satisfied with in order to reach our investment targets for the full year.

We are also satisfied with the expected return on investment that take into account the change cost structures in the market. Go to the next slide. We continued to see asset growth in the Q1 of 2023. The spike in Cash EBITDA in Q4 can explain by REO sales that was collected at the end of the year, that was expected in Q1. Thus, looking at the average Cash EBITDA for the two-month quarter is more correct, and we see that the Cash EBITDA is showing solid performance. The Cash EBITDA this quarter was NOK 1,151, and the level is the highest ever in the history of B2Holding. The net interest-bearing debt has mainly increased due to weakening of the Norwegian currency, NOK. You will also see that André Adolfsen will address the cash flow later in his presentation. Going to the next slide.

We continue to see a trend with higher collection in unsecured. I want to highlight our improved legal strategies through better use of analytical tools and also the increased use of self-service channel by our customers. As mentioned, we are able to keep costs stable despite increase in collection volume, pointing to the economies of scale and cost efficiency we can achieve in our core markets. We are still focusing on reducing footprint in countries that are operating below scale, with the aim of concentrating capital in fewer markets. This is also reflected in our purchases year to date. This is an execution of the strategy to reduce operational units and focus on scale in core markets. The sale of Bulgaria is progressing according to plan, and we expect a close of transaction in near future.

As mentioned previously, a substantial part payment has already been received, significantly reducing transaction risk. With that, I will leave then the word over to you, André, who will take more details on the financial performance.

André Adolfsen
CFO, B2 Impact

Thank you, Erik. Good morning, everyone. Before we go into the financial details, I would like to highlight the currency impact in the quarter. We had a significant impact from a strengthened euro versus NOK during this quarter, and the impact on the P&L was 16% compared to the same quarter last year, using year-to-date average rates. In terms of the balance sheet, end rates are used and not average rates, and the impact in the quarter was 13% compared to last year, +13%. To be able to guide you through the underlying business performance today, I will consequently comment only on deviations compared with previous periods in constant currency throughout the presentation. Moving into the financial details.

The Q2 was a very strong quarter in terms of collection performance, with a slightly different composition compared to what we've seen in previous periods. Unsecured performance came in at a very strong 107.6% of the latest forecast and is up 11% in constant currency. Secured cash collections came in at NOK 326 million, which includes REO sales of NOK 104 million at a premium to book value of 45%. In the quarter, we had overperformance compared to the latest forecast on both unsecured and secured portfolios, which has had a significant impact, a positive impact, on the adjusted EBIT and net profit. In particular, the secured collections were made at higher values and earlier than expected in the forecast, resulting in a net gain notably higher than previous periods.

Comparing to the Q2 of last year, we have seen somewhat lower secured cash collections in constant FX. Despite this, we have seen a strong Cash EBITDA growth of 5% in 6% in constant currency. This is driven by an increased investment level in our unsecured portfolios over the last 12 months, in combination with cost reductions and improved collection efficiency, as mentioned by Erik earlier. The composition of collections are now more skewed towards unsecured, in line with our communicated investment strategy. The underlying operating expenses in the quarter was up 3% compared to collection growth of 5%, I will elaborate more on the operating expenses later in the presentation. The net profit was impacted by higher interest expenses compared to last year, driven by the sharp increase in floating interest rates.

Interest expenses in the quarter was NOK 236 million, compared to NOK 223 million in the previous quarter, which is an increase of 4% in constant currency. Important to note that the blended margin of the company's outstanding debt was 5.16% in the quarter, which is in line with previous periods and down compared to the beginning of 2020. Portfolio investments came in at NOK 795 million for the quarter, with expected returns compensating for the increased cost of funding on the front book. Over the last 12 months, we have reported investments over NOK 2.7 billion, or around 50% up in that period.

So far this year, we have spent and committed investments, as Erik touched upon, of NOK 2.2 billion, well on track to reach our target range of NOK 2.5 billion-3 billion for the full year. Moving to the next slide, collection performance. Unsecured, again, came in at a very strong 107.6% of the latest forecast, and this is 11% up compared to last year in constant currency, driven by higher investment volumes and improved collection efficiency. Secured collections continue at a stable level despite few new investments. The cash collections, including REO and joint ventures, was NOK 326 million for the quarter, which is 6% down year-over-year in constant FX, but up 18% sequentially.

REO sales was came in at NOK 104 million, slightly down in constant FX year-over-year, but with a strong margin to book value of 45%. Erik touched, touched upon this earlier as well. We do see a strong collection trend also going into the Q3, and we expect to see collections above the forecast also for the remainder of 2023, but at a slightly lower rate than what we saw in the Q2. Moving to the next page, the cash flow. The cash earnings for the quarter came in at NOK 60 million, which is adjusted for portfolio investments, financial expenses, and tax. The reported leverage was 2.5. In constant currency, the ratio was 2.29.

We are very pleased to see that the operational cash flow is at the level where we can invest to grow the business without increasing the leverage. Moving to next page, and the operating expenses. Over the last year, inflation has put pressure on our cost base. B2 has been able to mitigate this pressure over the last 12 months, and we continue to see further improvements reflected in this quarter. Both cash revenue and operating expenses are up 7% over the last 12 months, resulting in a maintained operating margin for the period. During the Q2, we have seen revenue coming up 5%, with a corresponding Opex increase of 3%, resulting in a Cash EBITDA growth of 6% in the quarter. The Opex increase is driven by legal expenses related to collections and is volume driven.

The personnel and other expenses are in line with last year. As mentioned also in the Q1, the group has already initiated actions to contain inflationary pressure and have a strong focus on cost control. In the quarter, we booked also NRI related to some of these cost initiatives across the group, where the majority of the costs are related to closing down our loan receivable business in Poland and reduction of personnel. The closing of the loan receivable business alone will have an annual impact on cost of NOK 35 million-NOK 40 million going forward. We can move to the next page and the portfolio investments. Again, the investments in the quarter came in at NOK 795 million, and the investments over the last 12 months was NOK 2.7 billion.

The result is an increase in ERC in constant currency of 6%, which has been achieved without an increase in leverage. The estimated remaining collections are now composed or more skewed towards unsecured, making up almost 80% of the remaining collections. In addition to the investments in the first half of the year, we have signed investments for the remainder of the year, adding up to commitments of NOK 2.2 billion for the full year. Again, well on track to reach our communicated target. Next page, please. As touched upon by Erik earlier today, we have seen a notable deleveraging of the business over the last three years. We have consequently been able to repay four of our outstanding bonds and have issued only one new bond in the same period.

The RCF has also been renegotiated at more favorable terms, and the outcome is a blended margin, which is down compared to the beginning of 2020, as demonstrated in the graph on the right-hand side. The recent increase in interest expense, as you can see it on the graph, is driven only by the floating interest rate, which has also been mitigated to some extent by a hedging ratio of 52%. Moving to next slide, slide 14. Now, we are very pleased to announce that we have reached an agreement to amend the RCF with increased flexibility and duration. We now have full flexibility to refinance the upcoming maturity in 2024 of EUR 200 million, and we have extended the EUR 100 million facility line under the RCF maturing this year.

The full EUR 610 million RCF now consequently matures in 2025. Available liquidity currently stands at around EUR 400 million, plus expected cash earnings in the coming quarters, and the remaining cash from the sale of Bulgaria, expected to close during the Q3, which leaves us ample room to reach our investment targets for the year and next year. With that, I leave the word back to you, Erik.

Erik Johnsen
CEO, B2 Impact

Thank you, Andre. Now, the key takeaways for the quarters and also going forward, we have had a solid underlying collection performance, and the pace in Q2 seems to continue the same trend into Q3. We are reducing footprint and concentrating capital in fewer markets, thereby achieving operational efficiency and scale that is now also making its mark into the numbers. We have a sound investment capacity in combination with low leverage, and as Andre said, we are able to grow our ERC without growing the leverage, which is very positive. We have initiated several cost mitigating action to reduce the impact of inflationary pressure, and this will continue into the next quarters. We will maintain capital discipline, and we have already committed capital for EUR 1.1 billion for the rest of the year.

We, we see that also the amended RCF, it gives us increased flexibility going forward. With that, we open then for Q&A session.

Moderator

Thank you both. We will start with the questions. We will start then with Håkon Astrup from DNB. We have a few questions. First one is: Do I understand you correctly that prices reflect the current rate environment also for the forward flow volumes acquired this quarter? Or should we expect a lag on forward flows as you need to enter into new agreements?

Erik Johnsen
CEO, B2 Impact

I would say that the forward flow agreements now is, is performing very well and also is reflecting what we see on, on, on the new interest levels as well as cost levels.

Moderator

We have a few questions here from Gustav Larsson at Arctic. Is collection performance equally strong in all markets, and can you comment on differences between geographies?

Erik Johnsen
CEO, B2 Impact

Generally, we do not comment on, on, on each of the markets separately. We can say that there are differences between the different markets, but this is also one of the things that is good. Sometimes it's one market that is outperforming one quarter, next quarter, it's another market. Again, the same countries that overperformed very well last quarter is not the same countries that is outperforming massively this, this quarter, which makes the stability in our old performance quarter by quarter, as we have good performance in, in many quarters, but it's fluctuating a little bit between the quarters.

André Adolfsen
CFO, B2 Impact

I can add on the unsecured performance, which was very strong in the quarter, that most of the markets we've seen performing well are continuing to performing well. We've seen improvements based on actions taken in some of the other markets, which has improved the performance in those market and consequently reflected in the, the old performance that we've seen in the quarter.

Moderator

An additional question from Gustav. With NOK 2.2 billion already invested- committed in the first half of 2023, is guidance of NOK 2.5 billion-NOK 3 billion still relevant? I guess he thinks it's a bit on the conservative side.

André Adolfsen
CFO, B2 Impact

No, it's a level we're comfortable with, in the current environment, to maintain leverage at the same level, which is, or at least not increase leverage, too much. It's an important factor for us. We believe this is a level that should be enough to, to grow the business, and, and maintain leverage at a comfortable level.

Moderator

The last question from Gustav: You expect strong collection performance in Q3. Can you also say something about prospects for REO sales, especially in light of rising interest rates?

Erik Johnsen
CEO, B2 Impact

REO sales are a little bit bumpy and but we also seen that we have been able to to have a good REO performance so far into the quarter. Whether everything that is anticipated to come in the Q3 goes over, some of it's going over to Q4 and so on, it's always a little bit difficult to say. But so far, the REO sales has been, been good in the quarter.

André Adolfsen
CFO, B2 Impact

... we can also say that we can expect to see the same level in the coming quarters, at around NOK 100 million per quarter. That could obviously increase if we're able to sell off some chunkier assets. A level of NOK 100 million plus is should be a stable minimum level that we expect to achieve in the second half.

Moderator

We have a question from Alexander Løtvedt from Nordea. "Can you give some color on how the 108% collection performance to active forecasts stack up versus original estimated collection? Closer to 100%, for example, or below, or between 100%-108%?

André Adolfsen
CFO, B2 Impact

We don't disclose the original forecast, currently at least. Looking at the original forecast, we can say that we're, we're very happy with the performance, we're seeing today.

Moderator

We have a question from Håkon Astrup at Nordea. "The interest rate was 8.6% in Q2, including the hedge. Given the quarter to date movement, movements in floating rates and considering your hedge, what will it be in Q3 and Q4? Can you remind us of the duration of your current hedges?

André Adolfsen
CFO, B2 Impact

Yeah. What we have communicated earlier, is that the percentage would stay at 50% until the 3rd quarter. We have a maturity in the 3rd quarter, and we expect to be at around 30% at year end.

Moderator

Very good. We continue with Vegard Toverud from Pareto. "Erik, you told us in your presentation that expected strong performance appears to be maintained into Q3. Although André noted that it was at a slightly lower level. If the level was the same as in Q2, should we expect the same positive credit gain level in the P&L, or will the P&L impact be less, given the gain already taken in Q2?

Erik Johnsen
CEO, B2 Impact

The overperformance, what we said at the 107.6% is, is slightly above what we anticipate going into the Q3 and Q4. We still believe that the performance going into Q3, we see the trend of collection is, is very good. When it comes to the overperformance as such, that depends on, on the current spot, but still we are, we are seeing that we have an overperformance going into Q3. Whether it's going to be at the same level, is difficult to say. We are in the middle of the month, so, so it's, it's difficult to say how the performance are in, in September, but so far it looks good.

Moderator

A few follow-ups from Vegard. One question related to the invested and committed, if it's tempting to increase the full year range, I guess that has been answered. Also a question, "Is it because most sellers still are trying to sell at 2022 prices?

Erik Johnsen
CEO, B2 Impact

I think, I think if you look at the sellers of portfolios, the market's still trying to find an equilibrium in the pricing of portfolios. We have seen that some portfolios been pulled back by the banks due to the fact that they're not achieving the price that they wanted. It's coming back into the market at a later stage. Also, it's difficult to say whether everybody, all the banks, has been doing the appropriate, let's say, provisioning on the books. What we anticipate is that the volume of portfolios coming into the Q4 will increase.

We also see that some of the, of what been told, and also the, the statistics, that shows that in Scandinavia in particular, the second Stage 2 loans, which is the stage before going into NPLs, are increasing quite a bit. We anticipate that the volumes of NPLs actually will increase, and therefore, also portfolios coming to market at a later stage will increase.

Moderator

Final question from Vegard: "How much were the non-recurring items in Q2?

André Adolfsen
CFO, B2 Impact

We reported an NRI of NOK 25 million in the quarter. It's in the report. Whereof NOK 10 million is related to personnel, and around NOK 8 million is related to closing down the loan receivable business in Poland.

Moderator

Thank you. We continue with a few more questions. Jan Erik Gjerland is asking: "Can you touch on the market in general, volumes and prices competition, what do you see? Can you touch on the market in general, volumes and prices and competition, what do you see?

André Adolfsen
CFO, B2 Impact

I believe Erik gave some comments on that earlier. It's important to, to state that our target is to achieve investments between 2.5 and 3, and to achieve those investments at the best possible return. Not to go necessarily above the investment target, but to find the appropriate investments for B2, which is something we have achieved year to date, both in terms of markets and in terms of expected returns.

Erik Johnsen
CEO, B2 Impact

I can add a little bit also on the volumes coming to market. The volumes are still good, but as I said, some of the portfolios coming to market are drawn from the markets. When it comes to, to competition, we see that it's varying from portfolio to portfolio. We see that sometimes there comes out a portfolio in the market, there is heavily competition, then they come next one, and it's very few. Generally, we see fewer participants in the marketplace now. We also see that the participants now are pricing more, I would say, correctly to, to the conditions in the marketplace. This, this is, this is what we expected, and also we, we expect some the equilibrium between the sellers and the buyers to meet later this autumn, hopefully.

Moderator

We move on to Pål Dahl from Swedbank Markets. I think this has been addressed, but maybe you can elaborate a bit more. How should we think about your investments for 2023 and 2024? What consideration will determine higher investments than guidance for 2023?

André Adolfsen
CFO, B2 Impact

We only issue guidance or target for, for the current year, and that is as stated, NOK 2.5 billion-NOK 3 billion. Within that range, at terms we're happy with, that's the level again, we are comfortable with in the current environment.

Erik Johnsen
CEO, B2 Impact

As previously mentioned, the cash flow is very good, and at this level, we are seeing that we're able to maintain leverage ratio going forward, at this level, which is important for B2Holding .

Moderator

We move to Jan Erik Gjerland from ABG. Could you give examples on the legal strategies and use of analytics and use of self-service that has driven the higher collection?

Erik Johnsen
CEO, B2 Impact

We have initiated self-service platforms in several countries, which gives the debtor or the customer to access and have the opportunity to also initiate a plan for himself without going through human resources and actually have several options for themselves. This, this gives them a better view and a better access and also to determine what kind of strategies they want to do themselves. This is, this has been very good, and we also see more and more of our debtors that are used to using IT and platforms to and the number of people accessing this is increasing in the countries where this has been initiated.

When it comes to analytics, we, we use programming, and we use, our analytic team setting up programs that, are showing what strategies to do and where to, where to emphasize our strategies. Also, that is, is also where we go back and reinitiate some, some legal procedures in some of the countries that has been, been very successful on older claims. So, I think that is the main focus, on both, the, the, the strategies are both cost efficient, but also, volume efficient. So it's a combination between cost and, and volume, actually, driving the improvements there.

Moderator

Very good. I think that concludes the Q&A session. Should there be questions that haven't been answered for some reason, you can, of course, contact us. My contact details you can find in the, in the presentation, and don't hesitate to reach out if there should be anything. With that, I think we conclude the Q2 presentation.