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Earnings Call: Q4 2021

Feb 24, 2022

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Ionis Pharmaceuticals fourth quarter and full year 2021 financial results conference call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Jennifer Capuzelo, Investor Relations, to lead off the call. Please begin.

Jennifer Capuzelo
Director of Investor Relations, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Thank you, Anthony. Before we begin, I encourage everyone to go to the Investors section of the Ionis website to view the press release and related financial tables we will be discussing today, including a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financials. We believe non-GAAP financial results better represent the economics of our business and how we manage our business. We have also posted slides on our website to accompany today's call. With me this morning are Brett Monia, Chief Executive Officer, Beth Hougen, Chief Financial Officer, and Richard Geary, Executive Vice President of Development. Joining us for Q&A are Eric Swayze, Executive Vice President of Research, and Onaiza Cadoret-Manier, Chief Product Strategy and Operations Officer. I would like to draw your attention to slide 3, which contains our forward-looking statement.

During this call, we will be making forward-looking language statements that are based on our current expectations and beliefs. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, and our actual results may differ materially. I encourage you to consult the risk factors contained in our SEC filings for additional detail. With that, I'll turn the call over to Brett.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, Jennifer. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us for today's call. We made substantial progress last year toward achieving our vision of becoming a leading fully integrated biotechnology company. We're building our commercial pipeline, advancing and expanding our technology, and moving towards delivering an abundance of new medicines to the market, which together we expect will drive substantial future growth. At our Investor Day late last year, we introduced our go-to-market strategies for our near-term commercial opportunities, Eplontersen, Olezarsen, and Donidalorsen. Through our strategic collaboration with AstraZeneca to jointly develop and commercialize Eplontersen, which we announced late last year, we bolstered our commercial organization and accelerated preparations for our near-term product launches while also positioning Eplontersen to win in the competitive TTR amyloidosis market. The clinical development of Eplontersen, Olezarsen, and Donidalorsen also continued to progress well.

The phase III NEURO-TTRansform study of Eplontersen in patients with ATTR polyneuropathy completed enrollment in 2021 and remains on track for data around mid-year, followed by regulatory filing by the end of the year, assuming positive data. The phase III CARDIO-TTRansform study in patients with ATTR cardiomyopathy is also progressing well with data on track for 2024. We expanded our phase III pipeline late last year when we initiated the CORE severe hypertriglyceridemia study for Olezarsen. This was an important step as it expands the Olezarsen phase III program beyond FCS to potentially address the more than three million patients with severe elevated triglycerides. Importantly, with first mover advantage, we have the potential to deliver a first-in-class medicine to this broad patient population.

We plan to report data from our Olezarsen program in patients with FCS next year and in patients with severe hypertriglyceridemia the following year in 2024. We also initiated the phase III OASIS-HAE study of Donidalorsen in patients with hereditary angioedema late last year, putting it on track for data also in 2024. Donidalorsen has demonstrated a potential best-in-class profile in studies to date. Given the continuing unmet medical need for more effective HAE prophylactic treatments, we see Donidalorsen as a very compelling opportunity for Ionis. This year, we plan to report additional data from the phase II study for Donidalorsen and the ongoing open-label extension, further demonstrating Donidalorsen's highly favorable profile based on studies to date. Now looking more broadly at our late and mid-stage programs, beginning with programs from our leading cardiovascular disease franchise.

The phase III Lp(a) HORIZON study of Pelacarsen continues to progress well. Novartis reached 50% enrollment last summer, and the study remains on track for data in 2025. Coming up this year, we look forward to several phase IIb data readouts, including three from our cardiovascular franchise. Beginning with data from the ETESIAN study of ION449, our PCSK9 LICA medicine with AstraZeneca in patients with dyslipidemia at ACC in April. Later this year, we expect data for Fesomersen, our factor XI LICA medicine with Bayer in patients with end-stage renal disease and phase IIb data for IONIS-AGT-LRx in patients with treatment-resistant hypertension. Moving to our neurological disease franchise, we further strengthened our leadership position in SMA by advancing a follow-on program to Spinraza with Biogen for the treatment of SMA, which has the potential to reduce dosing frequency.

We're also pleased that Biogen continues to actively engage with regulatory authorities working towards a potential path forward for Tofersen in patients with SOD1- ALS while continuing to evaluate the data from the phase III VALOR study and the open label extension. The other programs in our ALS franchise also continue to progress well, and this includes our C9 ALS program, which is on track for data in the first half of this year. We are also pleased that based on new findings from the GENERATION HD1 study, Roche has identified a path forward for Tominersen in patients with Huntington's disease, with plans to initiate a new phase II study in younger patients with less disease burden. We look forward to additional updates from Roche later in the year.

In addition to the Spinraza follow-on, we made other important technology advancements throughout last year, including advancements in new biochemistry and in the potential identification of a new backbone chemistry, as we highlighted at our Investor Day in December. Importantly, we achieved all these pipeline and technology advances while strengthening our overall financial position and substantially exceeding our 2021 financial guidance. Looking ahead, we expect 2022 to be a busy year with a steady cadence of key catalysts that will keep moving us closer to our goal of becoming a leading, fully integrated biotechnology company. With that, I'll turn the call over to Beth to review our 2021 financial results and our 2022 financial guidance. Richard will discuss our recent key pipeline achievements and highlight pipeline catalysts for the year ahead. After Richard, I'll wrap up our prepared remarks before taking your questions. Now over to Beth.

Beth Hougen
CFO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Thank you, Brett. I'm pleased to report we ended 2021 with non-GAAP net income of $116 million based on revenues of more than $800 million and non-GAAP operating expenses of $695 million. These results significantly exceeded our 2021 revised guidance. Further, we remain well capitalized with 2021 year-end cash and investments of $2.1 billion. A key element of our strong financial foundation is our ability to consistently generate substantial revenue from numerous diverse sources. In 2021, we earned more than $340 million in revenue from our marketed products, with the majority coming from Spinraza. Spinraza's global sales were $1.9 billion for 2021, from which we earned more than $265 million in royalty revenue.

Spinraza global sales were down 7% year-over-year, primarily due to increased competition in the U.S. However, we were encouraged that discontinuations decreased compared to Q3. In the rest of the world, Spinraza sales increased year-over-year, primarily from an increase in sales volume, particularly in Latin America and certain other markets. Biogen is continuing to evaluate Spinraza in the ASCEND, DEVOTE, and RESPOND studies. These post-marketing studies are an important element of Biogen's ongoing work to further inform SMA treatment and address the remaining unmet needs of SMA patients of all ages. With the substantial and growing body of evidence supporting Spinraza's proven profile, we continue to see a bright future for Spinraza. Tegsedi and Waylivra generated more than $55 million of revenue this year.

As a reminder, we completed the transition of our commercial operations for these medicines to Sobi over the course of 2021. Therefore, our 2021 revenue was a mix of product sales and distribution fees based on product sales. We are pleased that both medicines continued to expand into new markets throughout 2021 through the efforts of our partners, Sobi and PTC. Last year, we earned R&D revenue of more than $465 million, representing nearly 60% of our total revenue. Most of our R&D revenue came from a number of different partners as together we advanced nearly 20 programs. The $200 million upfront payment we earned from our Eplontersen collaboration with AstraZeneca was an important contributor to our total revenue. Revenue from our strategic collaboration with Biogen was also an important contributor to our total revenue.

We earned more than $160 million from Biogen for advancing numerous neurological programs, including the $60 million license fee for our SMA follow-on medicine. We have a large and growing pipeline of programs advancing under our Biogen collaboration, all with the potential to generate substantial revenue and cash flows as they advance. We reported non-GAAP operating expenses of $695 million, which was a 9% increase compared with 2020. R&D expenses increased by 33%, driven in large part by the 6 phase III studies we are currently conducting. As these programs continue to advance, we anticipate our R&D expenses will continue to increase. Last year, we also invested in internal and external technology advancements. Of note, we obtained exclusive rights to Bicycle Therapeutics' innovative peptide technology.

This, together with our internal efforts and other external partnerships, positions us to meaningfully expand our drug discovery capabilities and deliver many more transformational medicines to the market. Our SG&A expenses decreased by 37% compared with 2020, driven by the substantial savings we realized from the Akcea integration and Sobi transaction. As planned, we are reinvesting these savings, as I will describe next. Now turning to our 2022 financial guidance. We are projecting to earn more than $575 million in revenue, incur operating expenses in the range of $825 million to $850 million, and end 2022 with a net loss of less than $275 million, all on a non-GAAP basis. Additionally, we are projecting to end 2022 with a healthy cash balance of approximately $1.7 billion.

Our long history of financial responsibility has served us well. At a time when we need to increase our spending, we have the substantial financial resources to underwrite these investments necessary to achieve our goal of becoming a leading fully integrated biotech company. Our 2022 guidance reflects our continued ability to generate significant revenue and make those necessary investments to realize our goal while remaining well-capitalized with a healthy cash balance. Importantly, our 2022 guidance demonstrates our commitment to advancing our near-term commercial opportunities, building our Ionis-owned pipeline, and ensuring our platform remains a key competitive advantage. Before I go into more detail on each of the elements of our 2022 financial guidance, I would first like to spend a few minutes explaining how we will reflect the cost-sharing provisions of our Eplontersen collaboration with AstraZeneca in our financials.

Under our Eplontersen Agreement, AstraZeneca is responsible for 55% of the global phase III program costs, including internal and external costs, as well as CMC costs. We are leading and conducting the ongoing global phase III program. For that reason, we will recognize the 55% reimbursement we receive from AstraZeneca as revenue in the same period we recognize the related development expenses. Our R&D expenses will continue to include the development expenses we are incurring for Eplontersen. AstraZeneca is also responsible for a large majority of the U.S. medical affairs costs. Since we and AstraZeneca are sharing responsibility for medical affairs activities in the United States, our R&D expenses will include 100% of Ionis's incurred medical affairs expenses, net of any cost-sharing payments we receive from AstraZeneca. AstraZeneca is also responsible for a large majority of the U.S. commercial costs for Eplontersen.

Because we and AstraZeneca are also sharing responsibility for commercialization activities in the United States, our SG&A expenses will include 100% of Ionis's incurred Eplontersen commercialization expenses, net of any cost-sharing payments we receive from AstraZeneca. As a reminder, AstraZeneca is solely responsible for costs associated with bringing Eplontersen to market outside the United States. Importantly, these cost-sharing payments provide us with substantial resources to scale our capabilities for the U.S. launch of Eplontersen, in addition to our upcoming planned launches for Olezarsen and Donidalorsen. Beginning with our Q1 earnings, we plan to provide a table of our expenses and the cost-sharing payments we receive from AstraZeneca each quarter. Now I would like to provide a bit more color on our 2022 financial guidance. We are projecting another year of generating revenue from multiple diverse sources.

We have a substantial and sustainable base of commercial revenue, with Spinraza royalties as the cornerstone. We also have a substantial and sustainable base of revenue from our partnerships that we expect will contribute meaningfully to our 2022 revenue. Year-over-year, the composition of our R&D revenue from our partnerships may shift, but the sustainability of that revenue is constant. As we have always done, our R&D revenue is probabilized based primarily on the anticipated timing of the many different milestone payments we expect to achieve as we advance our partner programs. Additionally, our R&D revenue will also include the reimbursements we will receive from AstraZeneca for our Eplontersen collaboration, as I mentioned a few moments ago. Importantly, through our multiple streams of revenue, we can fund a large portion of our operating expenses. This year, we will be advancing more late-stage development programs than ever before.

This includes the six phase III studies and two open-label extension studies we are currently conducting. We also plan to initiate new studies supporting our phase III programs, including additional open-label extension studies. Our R&D expenses will include increased spend for CMC activities and medical affairs activities to support Eplontersen, Olezarsen, and Donidalorsen. While a large percentage of our R&D expense relates to our late-stage medicines, we also will invest in our early and mid-stage pipeline to position us to deliver an abundance of new marketed products going forward. We expect to continue to expand and diversify our technology, ensuring we remain innovative and competitive. As a result of these investments, we expect our R&D expenses to increase approximately 25% to 30% this year compared to last year. We are also investing in our commercial readiness efforts to prepare to bring Eplontersen, Olezarsen, and Donidalorsen to the market.

With the cost-sharing payments we will receive from AstraZeneca, along with realizing a full year of savings from our Sobi transaction and the integration of Akcea, we expect our SG&A expenses this year to be in line with last year. Our financial strength has been an enduring quality of Ionis for many years. With $2.1 billion of cash and a substantial and sustainable base of commercial and R&D revenue, our solid financial foundation enables us to invest as needed to drive significant future growth. In doing so, we expect to deliver substantial value for the patients who rely on us and our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call over to Richard.

Richard Geary
EVP of Drug Development, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Well, thank you, Beth. We certainly achieved many pipeline advancements in 2021, with several key pipeline updates taking place even since our last call. We now have six medicines in our rich phase III pipeline for eight indications, including our three near-term commercial opportunities, Eplontersen, Olezarsen, and Donidalorsen, which alone address five separate indications. As both Brett and Beth mentioned, we're jointly developing and preparing to commercialize Eplontersen with AstraZeneca. Under our collaboration, we are continuing to lead and oversee the global phase III studies, which continue to progress well and remain on track. We were pleased that Eplontersen was granted Orphan Drug Designation by the FDA, underscoring the significant unmet need that remains for patients with ATTR amyloidosis.

This sets us up nicely for our planned data readout of the phase III NEURO-TTRansform study in patients with ATTR polyneuropathy and planned filing for regulatory approval in the second half of this year, assuming positive data. For Olezarsen, we have a broad development program designed to fully realize its potential to address a range of patients at risk for triglyceride-driven disease, who today have limited treatment options. The BALANCE-FCS study, our first phase III study of Olezarsen, remains on track for data next year. Recently, we initiated a second phase III study of Olezarsen, our CORE study, in patients with severe hypertriglyceridemia with triglycerides over 500 mg/dL. Severe high triglycerides represent a substantial opportunity with more than three million patients in the U.S. alone.

Data from the phase II study of Olezarsen in patients with moderate hypertriglyceridemia at high risk for or with established cardiovascular disease were also recently published in the European Heart Journal. The data showed that treatment with Olezarsen resulted in substantially reduced apoC-III, triglycerides, and atherogenic lipoproteins. Importantly, more than 90% of those treated with the monthly 50 mg dose achieved fasting triglyceride levels within the normal range. As a reminder, in addition to 50 mg monthly, we are also evaluating an 80 mg monthly dose in both our CORE and BALANCE phase III studies, which we expect to provide even greater triglyceride reduction. We have also made significant progress with our Donidalorsen development program for the treatment of hereditary angioedema. We initiated the phase III OASIS-HAE study of Donidalorsen with data expected in 2024.

We also presented positive phase II results at the ACAAI annual meeting, demonstrating rapid and sustained reductions in HAE attacks with mean reductions, excuse me, of up to 97% with a favorable safety and tolerability profile, leading us to believe that Donidalorsen could be a best-in-class prophylactic treatment for patients with HAE. Now to review our recent progress from our leading cardiovascular and neurological disease franchise, starting with cardio. At AHA in November, our partner AstraZeneca presented new data from a multiple ascending dose study of ION449 targeting PCSK9 in patients with dyslipidemia on stable statin therapy. In the study, ION449 demonstrated robust and sustained reductions in PCSK9 and LDL-C, with mean PCSK9 reductions of up to 95% and LDL-C reductions of up to 73% and favorable safety and tolerability.

Coming up at ACC in April, we look forward to data from the phase IIb ETESIAN study of ION449 in patients with dyslipidemia. We expect safety and efficacy data from ETESIAN, which was conducted in a similar patient population, dyslipidemia patients on moderate or high-intensity statin therapy, to be highly consistent with the previously reported MAD study and to continue to support the potential for this medicine to be best in class for LDL-C reduction. We also had several recent achievements in our leading neurological disease franchise. Early this year, we announced the advancement of ION-306, our follow-on treatment to Spinraza, further enhancing our leadership position in SMA. This significant technology advancement is based on novel Ionis chemistry that includes enhanced potency and duration of action. Based on our preclinical data, we believe ION-306 offers the potential to substantially extend dosing intervals.

We also recently initiated a phase I/II study in patients with Angelman syndrome, a rare genetic neuromuscular disease that presents in early childhood, resulting in profound developmental delays and frequent and severe seizures. We at Biogen remain encouraged by the data from the phase III VALOR study of Tofersen in patients with SOD1- ALS, which showed signs of reduced disease progression across multiple secondary and exploratory endpoints. Biogen continues to analyze results from the phase III study and collect new data from the ongoing open-label extension study. Importantly, Biogen remains actively engaged with regulators to determine the next steps for this medicine. In addition, the ATLAS presymptomatic study continues to enroll patients. We're also pleased that Roche has identified a potential path forward for Tominersen.

Findings from the post-hoc analysis of the phase III GENERATION HD1 study show that Tominersen may benefit younger adult Huntington's disease patients with less disease burden. Based on these findings, Roche plans to initiate a new phase II study in this patient population. We're encouraged by this important step for Tominersen and look forward to seeing additional data from the post-hoc analysis and learning more about the design of the phase II study from Roche later this year. Now turning to 2022. This year we have a deep pipeline of mid and late-stage medicines with at least nine mid and late stage data readouts highlighted by Eplontersen. We are planning for the phase III data from the NEURO-TTRansform study mid-year. Our joint Ionis and AstraZeneca team are working diligently and collaboratively to prepare a file for regulatory approval in the second half of this year.

Of course, the teams are already preparing for the commercial launch of Eplontersen. We also have the potential to further expand our rich phase III pipeline as we look forward to four phase IIb data readouts this year alone. As I just mentioned, we look forward to phase IIb data from our PCSK9 drug ION449 at ACC in April. We expect GSK to report data from the phase IIb B-Clear study of Bepirovirsen in patients with chronic hepatitis B. We also expect Bayer to report data from the phase IIb RE-THINC ESRD study of Fesomersen in patients with end-stage renal disease. We're planning to report data from our phase IIb study of IONIS-AGT-LRx in patients with treatment-resistant hypertension.

In addition to our four phase IIb data readouts, we also expect data from multiple phase II studies this year, including Ionis C9 data in patients with C9 ALS and Donidalorsen data, including additional results from phase II study and later data from the OLE or open label extension study. We are also planning to initiate several key studies this year focused on our cardiovascular and neurology franchises to further advance and expand our rich pipeline. Further, we anticipate making additional technology advancements, which we hope to share with you later this year. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Brett to close this portion of the call.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, Richard. With at least nine data readouts planned, including phase III data for Eplontersen and a potential regulatory filing, we have an eventful and catalyst-rich year ahead. We remain focused on achieving our goal of becoming a leading fully integrated biotechnology company. To that end, our plans this year are focused on our three strategic priorities. Building the Ionis commercial pipeline and advancing our three near-term commercial opportunities, Eplontersen, Olezarsen, and Donidalorsen. Continuing to build on the substantial progress we made last year by expanding and diversifying our technology. Thirdly, delivering an abundance of new medicines to the market in the near term and longer term, highlighted this year by the phase III readout for Eplontersen in hereditary ATTR polyneuropathy and the potential filing for approval. These three strategic priorities are central to my commitment to drive substantial growth for Ionis.

As we have reviewed this morning, we have made great progress across our business in support of this commitment with even more exciting progress plans for this year. Before closing, I want to take a moment to speak about about Rare Disease Day, which is Monday, February 28, and it's important to Ionis. There are approximately 7,000 rare diseases that affect more than 300 million people around the world. On Rare Disease Day, actually every day, the Ionis team honors the determination, resilience, and resolve of these patients and their loved ones by working tirelessly and with a sense of urgency to discover, develop, and deliver life-transforming treatments. With that, I'll now open the call up for questions. Anthony?

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Gary Nachman with BMO Capital Markets. You may now go ahead.

Gary Nachman
Managing Director of BioPharma Equity Research, BMO Capital Markets

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. First, the follow-on product Biogen licensed for SMA, describe it a bit more. How similar is this to Spinraza in terms of mechanism? What have you been able to do to potentially extend the dosing intervals for it? When do you think Biogen might enter the clinic with it? The second question is just, you know, talk about some of the progress you've been making on the commercial side, preparing for Eplontersen. How collaborative has the process been so far with AstraZeneca? Any sense of how big the sales forces will be for both you and AstraZeneca to capitalize on the PN opportunity, and then prepare for the cardiomyopathy as well? Thanks.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Great. Great questions, Gary. I'm gonna ask Eric Swayze, Head of Research, to talk a little bit about the mechanism and the chemistry and your other questions relating to the SMA follow-on. Onaiza Cadoret-Manier to talk a little bit about how the AZ co-development, co-commercialization partnership is going, which is going great. Eric, why don't you kick it off?

Eric Swayze
EVP of Research, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, sure. Thanks, Brett. The follow-on, BIIB115 or ION-306, uses the same mechanism as Spinraza. It is a splicing modulation mechanism that promotes synthesis of SMN protein, just like Spinraza. The objective of the program was to improve potency and extend the dosing interval. The follow-on does both of those things. We use a different backbone chemistry, which we haven't disclosed exactly what's in the molecule, but it's a new backbone chemistry that works particularly well in this splicing modulation mechanism. It gives an improvement in potency of the molecule and extends the dosing frequency. We've got great preclinical data on the compound and hope to really be able to extend the dosing regimen from Spinraza. You asked about clinical trial starts. Biogen is working on their clinical program but hasn't given guidance on when they're gonna start that.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Just to add to that, thanks, Eric. The drug is ready for clinical development, so it's cleared tox studies, and it's ready to go. They're just putting the final touches on clinical trial design and regulatory discussions. Stay tuned for that. As Eric said, they haven't disclosed timing for the start of that study. Onaiza, would you like to please talk a little bit about how the co-commercialization partnership's going with AstraZeneca on Eplontersen?

Onaiza Cadoret-Manier
Chief Product Strategy and Operations Officer, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Sure. Happy to, Brett. Thanks, Gary, for the question. The collaboration is just going swimmingly well. AstraZeneca and you know, Ionis are just really great partners. I think you know, having been on a lot of co-promotes in the past, I think we're approaching this in absolutely the right way. We're leveraging each other's capabilities where there is strength and differentiation. So in that sense, the mindset of within which we're entering this is just a fabulous start. More tactically to your question you know, Ionis will be certainly leading the areas where they have great expertise in the marketplace. We know amyloidosis really well. We've been in the marketplace you know, with investigators and KOLs for you know, a decade when you think about it.

We're really gonna be leveraging that strength all the way through to field medical as well. We'll be leading a lot of the medical affairs capabilities and having a field medical affairs team to launch Eplontersen. We're also gonna be leaning on our just great strength in you know rare diseases, patient services and patient support and planning that collaboratively and leading that effort as well. That gives you a bit of color on the types of activities that Ionis will be leading. We will obviously rely on the broad strength in heart failure that AstraZeneca brings and just a great cardiovascular presence that they have in a variety of other ways. As to your question, size of team, just not been established yet.

We just have, you know, more work to do on that front. Happy to share that as we work along that path with AZ. Lastly, I would say, you know, we are certainly taking the capabilities that we're building for Eplontersen in this co-commercialization effort to really have an eye towards and a line of sight towards what we will be leveraging for Olezarsen and Donidalorsen, you know, our next launches, which will be Ionis' only launches as well.

Gary Nachman
Managing Director of BioPharma Equity Research, BMO Capital Markets

Thanks, Onaiza. Okay. That, that's very helpful. Thanks, guys.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, Gary.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jessica Fye with JP Morgan. You may now go ahead.

Jessica Fye
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst – Biotechnology, JPMorgan

Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. I had a couple. It looks like you're gonna have two updates this year for the HAE program, one in the first half, one in the second half. Can you elaborate on what types of data we should expect you to share in each of those two updates? Then, second, what do you see as the benchmark for differentiated LDL lowering with ION449? Like, what constitutes a meaningful difference relative to Inclisiran?

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Sure thing. Thanks, Jess. So for Donidalorsen, the updates that are coming for HAE in the first half of this year, as you said, we're planning an update at a medical meeting, and there you're gonna see more data from the phase II controlled study. Data like quality of life, for example, and other, you know, data from, you know, deeper investigations into the results of that study. I also in the second half of the year, we're planning to present at a medical meeting open-label extension data to demonstrate not only you know to go beyond the robustness of the phase II study to demonstrate the durability of the protection that these patients have received in the long-term tolerability and safety, which you know we think will further support our position that this is the best-in-class molecule. I would also look for a third update, which is a publication. We're planning to publish the phase II data in a journal sometime hopefully soon. There'll be a further update on that. With respect to ION449 differentiation, it's really straightforward.

There's a need for better drugs that lower PCSK9 and LDL-C better than current drugs that are out there, whether they are monoclonal antibodies or other drugs, to get patients that have risk of cardiovascular disease despite these treatments. It's a better lowering agent. It's a better PCSK9 inhibitor, and consequently a better LDL-C lowering effect from that, better potency and efficacy we've seen. That's based on the phase I data in patients on statins with high cholesterol that Richard talked about in his talk earlier, but also the phase IIb data that'll be presented at the ACC. It really does look like a best in class molecule. Of course, the more you lower LDL-C, the greater cardiovascular risk reduction is achieved. That's really the key differentiator there.

Jessica Fye
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst – Biotechnology, JPMorgan

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Joseph Stringer with Needham & Company. You may now go ahead.

Joseph Stringer
Managing Director, Needham & Company

Hi. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking our question. Just on one of the phase IIb readouts, with the AGT program in hypertension. Just given the competitive landscape and different modalities, what are you looking for in terms of clinically meaningful changes in blood pressure? And again, you know, what would constitute sort of a competitive profile in this indication? Thank you.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Sure, Joe. Richard, you wanna take that?

Richard Geary
EVP of Drug Development, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, happy to take that. Thanks. Great question. What we expect to see with this molecule is robust systolic reduction in blood pressure. Really anything more than five is you know something you would like to see in a blood pressure lowering. But for these patients who are resistant to lowering and they're on multiple medications for their blood pressure lowering, getting them to essentially a lower blood pressure and control, and we're thinking around 10 millimeters of mercury reduction in systolic would be a real winner. Best in class to be able to add on to medications that are not bringing these patients to control. We're excited about it and the trial is going well, and we expect it will read out this year.

Joseph Stringer
Managing Director, Needham & Company

Great. Thanks for taking our question.

Operator

Our next question comes from Paul Matteis with Stifel. You may now go ahead.

Speaker 17

Hi there. Thanks for taking our question. This is Alex on for Paul. Just one on the upcoming C9 readout in the first half. You know, curious if you could talk a little bit more about biomarkers beyond target engagement that we might see. I guess I'm curious if you expect to disclose any NFL data, and if so, do we know anything about NFL natural history in this population? I know it's a little bit less known here than say SOD1. Curious if you could elaborate more. Thanks.

Richard Geary
EVP of Drug Development, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah. Sure thing, Alex. You know, we're excited just by the fact that study is wrapping up and Biogen is gonna disclose the C9 phase II data out and potentially next steps as well for that program. That study is of course focused on selecting a dose potentially for a future study, potentially a phase III study in C9 ALS. You know, aside from safety and tolerability, of course, which is very important for a first in-patient study, very important is to select a dose based on target engagement. C9 peptide reductions in those patients and to correlate those reductions with how that translates to reductions, you know, in the relevant regions of the CNS, the spinal cord and brainstem based on preclinical data.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

We will certainly be looking at secondary, tertiary endpoints in characterizing all of the classic endpoints you would expect to see. That's really not the main focus of the study. That would include NfL, certainly. That would include vital capacity, that would include ALS Functional Rating Scale. That's really not the objective. The objective is to select doses to achieve the efficacy and targets that we wanna achieve a good safety and tolerability positioning for essentially a phase III study.

Speaker 17

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Josh Schimmer with Evercore ISI. You may now go ahead.

Josh Schimmer
Managing Director, Evercore ISI

Great. Thanks for taking the question. First for the next-gen MsPA backbone technology, when do you expect this will be in the clinic, and how do you plan to prioritize targets? Do you expect you'll be revisiting validated targets, such as TTR with a third-generation product, or is it gonna be deployed more for novel targets and novel tissues? Then, separately or relatedly, there's been a fair amount of evolution in your portfolio, including some of the neuro data set in ALS and Huntington's. How are you now thinking about which programs you're likely to advance to commercialization on your own? I think that for that strategy, at least historically, you've been CNS focused and heavy. Is that still the case? Thanks.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Eric, do you wanna take the MsPA backbone?

Eric Swayze
EVP of Research, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah. I'll take the MsPA one, but not the commercial. The MsPA backbone is currently in consideration for every new drug we're making. We haven't given exact timing on when it would enter in the clinic. It depends a little bit on how it performs with all the other chemistries we have. We're actively competing it with every modality and every chemical technology we have at our disposal to make the best possible drug. That's in all therapeutic areas and all platforms.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

If I could just expand on that a little bit, Eric. This chemistry, we also expect to use with other chemistry. We're looking to allow us to open up tissues that we may have had some trouble with in the past. As Eric presented at Investor Day last year, we believe we have a molecule that can greatly reduce pro-inflammatory effects in tissues where that can be a problem. For example, pulmonary. We're hoping that could be a path forward there. We're not committing to that yet, but certainly that's a possibility. We also like the durability that this chemistry gives us, which really allows us to dose very infrequently, at least, based on preclinical data so far, you know, using subcut route.

It's offering a lot of different aspects for the overall profile. Yeah, we're planning to move it in a first molecule into development this year, but that means, you know, initiate the tox studies and then clinical development thereafter. With regard to the portfolio in neuro, wholly owned pipeline, of course, we have our phase III FUS-ALS study that's progressing nicely, and we're enrolling that study. We're planning to bring that to the market ourselves. We have two other drugs in development right now that are wholly owned by Ionis as well. One is our GFAP study in Alexander disease, which is in a phase II/III study.

Thirdly, a study that we're planning to initiate this year in carriers in patients is in prion disease. We're really looking forward to the second half of this year to talk more about that program. We think it's a very exciting program. We think we have a very novel path forward for potential approval from a regulatory standpoint. We think we have a great drug based on our preclinical data. Behind that is a rich pipeline of neuro drugs, targets of which we haven't disclosed yet, but it's growing. We do believe that following our near-term commercial opportunities, you've heard about Eplontersen, Olezarsen, Donidalorsen, we're really looking towards our neuro pipeline as being the follow-on of real movers for our commercial pipeline in the future. We're gonna talk more about that this year.

Operator

Our next question comes from Yanan Zhu with Wells Fargo. You may now go ahead.

Yanan Zhu
Senior Analyst, Biotechnology Equity Research, Wells Fargo

Thank you and congrats on the progress. I have a question regarding Eplontersen's study in cardiomyopathy. Certainly looking forward to the mid-year polyneuropathy data. But if we look little further ahead for the cardiomyopathy opportunity, I think one of the feature of the trial's design is that there's no cap for patients on Tafamidis, and therefore, it may be a more real-world mix of patients in contrast to a competitor's trial. So the question I have is, wouldn't the increased proportion of Tafamidis patients in both arms would that affect the delta between the two arms? And do you have a statistical measure to address that?

Is there a hierarchical testing that may allow you to look at Tafamidis patients versus, you know, patients who are not, those two subgroups separately? If I may, also elaborate how did this trial design allow you to have a better claim in a marketplace? I think you highlighted that, but could you elaborate how exactly that could support a differentiated claim? Thank you.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, Yan. Richard, maybe you could address the first part on the cardiomyopathy design and the usage of and management of Tafamidis usage in the study and how the study's powered at a high level. Then, Onaiza, you talk a little bit about why this is relevant to the real-world setting, why we're so enthusiastic about the trial design. Richard?

Richard Geary
EVP of Drug Development, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah. The trial design is one that we're really excited about because it does allow us to actually benefit from a real-world experience and the expectation of the world that we're going to enter upon approval if all goes well. The study, which is larger than any of the other cardiomyopathy studies in this indication, allows for Tafamidis use. It's actually powered, and this may not be well understood, but the study was powered based on the assumption that everyone in the control group was on Tafamidis, so already benefiting from a Tafamidis background.

In reality, you know, we've selected countries that have Tafamidis available, like the United States, and other countries that do not, so it'll be a mix, which will allow us to do a statistical analysis, not only looking at those on Tafamidis, but also looking at naive patients that are not on Tafamidis. It provides a broad spectrum look and a real nice benefit in terms of the design of the study. That's the design and the reason that we're excited about it. I'll pass it over to Onaiza to speak to why this is so important.

Onaiza Cadoret-Manier
Chief Product Strategy and Operations Officer, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yes. Thank you, Richard. I would say our customers are very excited about the design as well. I think we're skating, you know, to where the puck will be in the future. You know, we know particularly in large geographies such as the U.S., there will be a lot of patients who will be on Tafamidis because, you know, the patients are getting diagnosed, and they're treating, which is all great. We have the ability with the largest clinical trial now to generate the evidence and data for both sets of patients. There will be patients who will be naive to stabilizers, and there will be patients who will be on stabilizers.

The ability to actually come in and give physicians a data set on how to evaluate a patient who's currently on background Tafamidis and what that incremental benefit looks like in cardiovascular risk reduction above that will be extremely important. They will be requiring that data to make that decision for the patients on Tafamidis. We will have the data, the evidence, and you know, as all things go in terms of our ability to you know get these from a label perspective, we certainly are working towards the very and you know likely outcome that we will be able to have that and put those into claim, as you had asked. These will be the two generated claims that we're looking forward to.

I'll also add this is also great data, not just for healthcare professionals, but also for patients because they wanna know, if I add on another treatment, what does that look like? If I'm not in any treatment, you know, yeah, is Eplontersen the best treatment to go on? We will have those data sets for them. Very importantly, you always have to check on reimbursement and access. We've done that for our U.S. payers to really see if there were a combination used, how they would actually think about reimbursing that. Very fortunately and a very patient mindset because these patients are very sick. They came at it at the same place, and said, you know, we would cover both stabilizers and silencers together as long as you have the data and evidence to generate that, and physicians were actually making that choice. We do see from all three perspectives, this real-world evidence and clinical trial is gonna be very favorable for us as we launch in cardiomyopathy.

Yanan Zhu
Senior Analyst, Biotechnology Equity Research, Wells Fargo

Got it. Thank you for the very, detailed cover. Appreciate it.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Thank you, Yan.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jason Gerberry with Bank of America. You may now go ahead.

Jason Gerberry
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. I guess just thinking ahead this year to the Eplontersen update, if you can speak to how you guys are thinking about the safety differentiation relative to Tegsedi and just to have a more competitive product in the market. Is it really key? Is there one of the two black box warnings and REMS monitoring components, either renal or thrombocytopenia, that is more important? Or is it really the key to sort of develop a product with a profile that distances itself from both of those safety considerations? As we think about sort of Tegsedi so far commercially, I know it doesn't get talked a lot on these calls, but just, you know, what proportion of patients are currently contraindicated for Tegsedi? If you could just speak to the underlying kind of market share and volume trends, which are hard to tease out because of the revenue reporting changes, that'd be helpful. Thanks.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Sure, Jason. Yeah. We agree that it's a rich year for our pipeline, our catalyst. A lot of catalysts coming up this year, including Eplontersen, phase III readout by midyear, for polyneuropathy. You know, we don't expect any safety issues for Eplontersen in polyneuropathy, in the polyneuropathy readout at all. I mean, that's based on blinded data that's been continuously evaluated by our safety oversight committee and moving this drug forward each time it's been reviewed and our LICA platform overall.

You know, to us, which is more important, the need for renal monitoring to move away from renal monitoring or platelet monitoring that is occurring with Tegsedi for Eplontersen is not really that relevant because we don't expect any monitoring beyond what's normal for any drug that reaches the market today. We don't expect any platelet signals or renal signals and that's the assumption going forward. As far as patients that are not you know eligible for Tegsedi, I'd have to go back and look at that and maybe we could follow up with you on that. You know, Tegsedi is approved for patients with hereditary ATTR amyloidosis and symptoms of polyneuropathy, period.

All patients are eligible for Tegsedi, provided that they are tested first for certain renal and platelet parameters, and they're above a certain threshold, which I don't have that number exactly in front of me. All patients are eligible for the drug except that small subpopulation. Eplontersen is where our focus is. Eplontersen has demonstrated TTR reductions in our phase I study that are highly competitive, if not superior to what we've seen out there today. We think this has a potential as a best-in-class product for ATTR amyloidosis, hereditary ATTR amyloidosis with polyneuropathy, as we do for Eplontersen and cardiomyopathy.

Operator

Our next question comes from Myles Minter with William Blair. You may now go ahead.

Speaker 18

Hi, this is Sarah on for Myles. Thanks for taking the questions. Just to kind of follow up on our last question a bit, can you comment on kind of the trajectory of the Tegsedi franchise moving forward?

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Beth? Yeah.

Beth Hougen
CFO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Sure. Happy to. As I mentioned in our prepared remarks, Tegsedi sales of Tegsedi continued to expand into new countries last year. We're pleased with the work that Sobi and PTC are doing. Obviously, I can't get ahead of what, you know, each of them have disclosed publicly. We would expect to see, you know, continued support from Sobi and PTC in, you know, in their respective areas for Tegsedi going forward. Then, in terms of revenue, of course, this is our first full year of revenue from Tegsedi based on a distribution model. You would expect to see our revenues actually decline year-over-year, decrease year-over-year because last year was a mix of product sales and distribution fees.

This year you would expect to see that decrease. However, we also had substantial expense savings when we moved to the distribution model with the Sobi transaction for Tegsedi, and Waylivra for that matter. Our overall P&L impact from that change is actually quite positive. As I said before, we're investing those savings into our commercial opportunities, into the neuro pipeline, into the rest of our mid-stage pipeline, our technology, commercial capabilities, all of the things that we think are absolutely essential to build Ionis into the leading fully integrated biotech company.

Speaker 18

Got it. Thank you.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, Sarah.

Operator

Our next question comes from Luca Issi with RBC. You may now go ahead.

Luca Issi
Senior Biotechnology Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Oh, great. Thanks so much for taking my question. Maybe circling back on a prior question for ATTR polyneuropathy, maybe ask the question a little more directly. Great partnership with AstraZeneca, obviously, but a fairly competitive market. Maybe Onaiza, how are you thinking about the market share split long term between you and Alnylam, given that obviously they are ahead and they may be in a position to dose less frequently? And then maybe second question on AGT. Can you just remind us the rationale for going after heart failure? Again, one of your competitors are all going after just hypertension, but you have a trial for heart failure with reduced ejection fraction. Would love if you can remind us the rationale there. Maybe lastly, sounds like you're gonna have some data with GSK for hepatitis B. Wondering if you can give us some color on that one. I forget if that trial is monotherapy or combination with nucs or combination with capsid inhibitors. Any color there would be great. Thanks so much.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Onaiza.

Onaiza Cadoret-Manier
Chief Product Strategy and Operations Officer, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, sure.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

You can start that question.

Onaiza Cadoret-Manier
Chief Product Strategy and Operations Officer, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

I'll start. Thank you, Luca. Since you already directed the question to me. Yeah, you know, for Eplontersen and polyneuropathy, particularly as the first launch, you know, you wanna think about this as a systemic disease, and that we will be in hereditary ATTR. We will be looking at, you know, both the mixed phenotype as well as the pure polyneuropathy patient. I think about it as a large market. Only 10% to 15% of those patients have been diagnosed and treated, so it's a big market for multiple players to share. We are expecting very strong data in terms of efficacy with both mNIS+7 and our Norfolk Quality of Life.

Brett just went through what we expect on the safety profile. Then, you know, after those things are done, then you have to look at what's next in terms of hierarchy that's important to the market, be it physicians and patients. Here, I would say our product presentation of self-administration at home is a very key driver of choice. We do believe that that's gonna be a really important feature of the product as well, that will, in addition to efficacy and safety, be really important. I'll say in our new normal of kind of COVID, it's actually a great deal even more important where more virtual visits are being done by physicians, and there's just a preference to that.

Giving patients the control of self-administration at home continues to be a really big benefit. We think that the monthly is certainly you know a very important kind of consideration. But it really didn't show up very, very strongly when we tested this in terms of you know monthly versus quarterly. Honestly, it was the self-administration that was driving more of the choice than in-office administration. I wanted to give you that color. You can calculate shares based on that and just think about what the product really offers. Hopefully you'll get to be able to model that, but I wanted to make sure you have that perspective as well.

Richard Geary
EVP of Drug Development, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Great. Maybe I can take the heart failure question for angiotensinogen. First of all, angiotensinogen has shown some real benefit in some of the preclinical models for heart failure, and we moved into this heart failure initial study to look at the safety of shutting down or reducing angiotensinogen production in these patients. You know, one of the issues in heart failure is you have to be very careful because of the renal issues as well as the possible benefit on the cardiac side. Actual RAS inhibition or the ability to utilize those medications has been very limited in these patients. They aren't getting what they need in terms of control both on blood pressure as well as their heart failure side effects.

What we see with angiotensinogen is the opportunity to treat at the top of the RAS pathway with angiotensinogen without hitting the kidney. We're looking at safety as a primary, as well as, of course, the lowering of angiotensinogen and control of blood pressure. We're excited about the study. We're excited about that as a possible indication for angiotensinogen, and we'll learn more as we complete these early studies.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Thanks, Richard. Eric, you wanna comment on the HBV trial design plus minus nucs, what we might expect from that readout?

Eric Swayze
EVP of Research, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Sure. That's basically it. They've got the Firavirsan drug on top of standard of care, which is a nucleoside inhibitors of the polymerase and alone. The idea is in phase II to see if we can get reduction of the S antigen protein and subsequent immunoclearance of the viral infection and trying to achieve what we call a functional cure, where the immune system can overcome the S antigen, which is causing kind of inhibiting the immune system's ability to cope with the virus and clear it. That's the goal, and we've seen some cool preclinical data that suggests that it might be possible and hopefully it'll be borne out in the phase II study.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah. Thanks, Eric.

Luca Issi
Senior Biotechnology Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Fantastic. Thanks so much.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Yale Jen with Laidlaw & Company. You may now go ahead.

Yale Jen
Senior Managing Director and Senior Biotech Analyst, Laidlaw and company

Yeah. Thanks for picking me for the question. I have two quick ones. The first one is that given that you have the AstraZeneca co-commercialization agreement, should we anticipate in terms of adding sales force, sales rep to your commercial structure teams will be something maybe starting in 2024 or later? And the second one is that the, just add on the previous question in terms of Eplontersen in PN, besides the self-administrative advantage, is there any other sort of theoretical benefit you can think of comparing to the Firavirsan at this moment. Thanks.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Onaiza?

Onaiza Cadoret-Manier
Chief Product Strategy and Operations Officer, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah. I'd be happy to. For AstraZeneca in the collaboration, you know, we're still working out, you know, how we're gonna divide up some of the customer-facing resources. For your modeling purposes, I would just suggest that, you know, we are likely going into this, that we're gonna be doing more of the non-sales customer-facing resources. The larger part of the sales people that will be required will be handled by AstraZeneca, and we will be handling more of the field medical as, like, nurse case managers and those type of customer-facing resources. Hopefully that'll help you calibrate in terms of size, for that. Then, you know, I think for the differentiation, you know, it's always a trifecta, right?

You have to look at it from all the things that you offer to the physician, the patient, and the payer. We really are very, very confident in the product profile, both for polyneuropathy and for cardiomyopathy, in terms of, you know, what this is gonna offer in efficacy, in safety, in ease of administration, tolerability, and, you know, obviously at the at-home dosing, as I just explained, earlier as well. It's really the whole package together that will drive the differentiation. We are very excited about both the polyneuropathy launch, and then, you know, the cardiomyopathy with the differences in terms of our real-world evidence trial that will really help us characterize the two sets of populations for Tafamidis and/or alone, naive to Tafamidis as well.

Operator

Our next question comes from Yaron Werber with Cowen. You may now go ahead.

Speaker 16

Hi, this is Brendan on for Yaron. Thanks for taking the questions as well. First, I honestly just wanted to follow up on one of the earlier questions about the hep B infection readout in H2. You know, given the data we've seen in the last couple of years from competitors, really just wanna see where you think the bar is at this point in terms of S antigen reduction. And then actually in acromegaly, I also wanted to see how enrollment here has been going, given some of the difficulties in the combo study last year. I guess how you're all thinking about potential next for the program and I guess that drug moving forward with based on everything that you know so far. Thank you very much.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

You're welcome. Eric, why don't you take the first one? I'll touch on acro.

Eric Swayze
EVP of Research, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, sure. I mean, the bar is probably more than just S antigen reduction per se. The objective, as said earlier, is to reduce S antigen enough and then combine that with the ability of the immune system to create what they call a functional cure and clear the virus. I don't think just S antigen reduction alone is enough. In our phase IIa trial that we reported on, published recently in Nature Medicine somewhere, there we actually showed evidence that that could in fact happen and had some really impressive clearances of viral infection in patients. That's what we're hoping to, what GSK is hoping to show in the larger phase IIb study.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

For the acromegaly phase II monotherapy study, we're very confident this study will, it will read out as planned this year. Enrollment is actually ahead of schedule, and going very well and looking forward to that readout. No concerns, no red flags there whatsoever. I also want to remind you that, we also have an update on the open label extension from this, from the acromegaly study that we had data come out last year on in patients that are resistant to somatostatin analogs. We're going to have, additional data beyond the monotherapy. But we're very confident. Enrollment's gone great in the monotherapy study, and we're looking forward to that readout. I think that pretty much wraps up the questions where we are now. I'd like to thank everyone who joined us and participated on the call, today. We'd like to look forward to providing further updates on our progress throughout the year. Until then, thank you again and have a great day.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. You may now disconnect. Thank you.

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