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Goldman Sachs 45th Annual Global Healthcare Conference

Jun 11, 2024

Speaker 2

Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you so much for joining us. We're really pleased to have with us Brett Monia, CEO of Ionis. To start here, Brett, there's a few late-stage programs in the clinic and multiple potential upcoming commercial launches. Can you walk us through your near-term outlook and your level of confidence into these key events?

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Happy to. So, we have... Focusing on the pipeline, we have one of the richest phase III pipelines out there today. All firing on all cylinders, really progressing right on track, with nine drugs in phase III development today, for 11 indications. We expect that to expand to at least 10 by the end of this year. We've already had several positive phase III readouts and approvals. I would draw your attention to maybe four; we don't have to cover all nine. The first is WAINUA, for hereditary ATTR polyneuropathy. We were thrilled to have the approval with a really great label last December, and we launched with our partner, AstraZeneca, in late January.

This is the first co-development, co-commercialization agreement in Ionis rich history, and it's the first step to us independently commercializing our own drug. The launch is off to a solid start, and the phase III cardiomyopathy indication is also off, is running well. The second would be olezarsen, a wholly-owned treatment for severely elevated triglycerides. Two indications, just like with WAINUA, a rare indication and a broad indication, FCS and sHTG, respectively. We reported in April, very positive phase III results for olezarsen in FCS, at ACC, and we've now submitted our NDA for that approval, which can come later this year, and the sHTG trial is progressing nicely. Thirdly, I would say, donidalorsen, for, as a prophylactic treatment for hereditary angioedema.

Donidalorsen, we reported just, I think it was two weeks ago, a comprehensive review of the phase III program results for donidalorsen at the EAACI conference in Valencia, Spain. Very positive results, and we're planning to submit for approval in the U.S. later this year. And then the fourth drug I would draw your attention to, is a partnered program, a fully partnered program, pelacarsen, for lipoprotein(a) -driven cardiovascular disease. This is an enormous unmet medical need in the cardiovascular space. Patients suffering with cardiovascular disease due to highly elevated lipoprotein(a) , a risk factor, no treatment options available today.

Pelacarsen has first mover advantage, with Novartis, that's our partner, and we're looking forward to phase III data next year for that program. So, you know, last year, this year, next year and beyond, we're looking at a steady cadence of phase III readouts, potential approvals and launches, so it's pretty exciting.

Speaker 2

Start with WAINUA. Can you walk us through how the commercialization responsibilities are split with partner AstraZeneca, and what you've observed early in the launch, and how it's fitting into the competitive landscape?

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Mm-hmm. Sure. So, as I mentioned, we launched in late January. WAINUA is, as I said, our first co-commercialization partnership as a stepping stone to our first independent commercial launches for Ionis. You know, it has evolved in this co-development, co-commercialization partnership. We're responsible for running the phase III programs, polyneuropathy and cardiomyopathy. We had responsibility for regulatory submissions for polyneuropathy, and we're beginning to now transition that over to AstraZeneca as we approach the cardiomyopathy readout. We also had several other responsibilities on the commercial front. We led with medical affairs, and we did that for several years, and now we've transitioned those responsibilities over to AstraZeneca.

Together, we work on brand strategy together, everything from market access, pricing, all that, you know, jointly in our joint project team. Today, our primary responsibility is in patient education management. It basically means we're the face to the patients on disease education, on how to self-administer WAINUA, how to inject, reimbursement process, to streamline that along, so they get, you know, it's a seamless process and more of that. AstraZeneca is principally responsible for the sales force, basically, the field force in the U.S. This co-promotion is principally in the U.S. Outside the U.S., they have global commercialization responsibility. So it's a step towards our first independent launches. The launch is off to a good start.

It's early days, but you know, we're achieving or exceeding all of our key performance metrics that we laid out last year for WAINUA. And a lot of the advantages that we thought were gonna really resonate with patients and treaters are really resonating. You know, the ability for patients to self-administer using a simple auto-injector once per month is a big attraction. There's no need to set up an appointment with a healthcare provider to do so. It's an easy injection. It's great efficacy, of course, great safety, a great safety label. That's, of course, very important as well. And...

Also, you know, just the ability for, Ionis and AstraZeneca to work together, using our expertise in TTR amyloidosis and their global presence, to be able to access patients, you know, around the globe. In addition to the U.S. approval, we're expecting approval in Europe this year. We're expecting approval in Canada this year, and possibly other territories. We're under review in nearly a dozen other territories today, around the globe. So it, it's early days, but, but we really like what we're seeing in the launch.

Speaker 2

With regard to the TTR cardiomyopathy program, I recognize that you're running your own phase III, but you've got Alnylam reading out their APOLLO-B phase III trial. So maybe help us understand what you'll be focused on with regard to their program and the read-through to yours.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Our phase III program, we believe, our partner, AstraZeneca, strongly believes that we have the right trial design for TTR cardiomyopathy. This is the largest, by far, more than double the size of any trial ever conducted in TTR cardiomyopathy. A really, you know, a disease with high prevalence, still remaining a high unmet medical need. Our trial is the largest because it accounts for the change, the demographics that has shifted in TTR cardiomyopathy. Gone are the days of the patient demographics that were targeted with tafamidis, back 10 years ago when tafamidis was developed. Patients are being diagnosed much earlier in their disease because of better diagnostics, better disease awareness, and therefore, you need to do bigger trials.

You need to do bigger trials, and we have the biggest trial, so we have the proper powering and have, and to provide the richest data set for this for this disease indication when this study reads out. We think we have the right trial design. With that said, we're very much looking forward to the readout from the first silencer in TTR cardiomyopathy, as is many other people. And we're particularly interested in how it all plays out. You know, how do they, whether they, whether statistical significance is achieved in combination usage, monotherapy usage, or I should say, the overall population and monotherapy usage, effect size, and so on. At the end of the day, we don't really think it's gonna have much impact on our trial.

We, like I said, we believe we have the right trial design, and this trial needs to run its course, because it's positioned to be to provide the richest data set of any trial ever conducted in this disease area.

Speaker 2

Can you speak to whether you would wait for the full data by, you know, in 2026, or whether you could decide to take an interim look and end the study early?

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Our base case is to let the study read out, go to the finish line. 140 weeks, all patients, more than 1,400 patients, so our base case is 2026. And that is related to what I just touched on. We have the right trial design, positioned to provide the richest data set to compete effectively in this. Could we read the study out early? Sure, but it cannot come on the rich. That we can read the study out early and essentially have the same data set, the rich data, next year, as we would have gotten if we waited till 2026, certainly, we can do that. And we and our partner, AstraZeneca, are working on what the scenarios could be to maybe do that.

But today, everyone should assume that the base case is 2026, and we believe that that's gonna work just fine, because of the design of our trial and the quality of the data we're gonna get from this study.

Speaker 2

Remind us what you're seeing with regard to blinded event rates and your target split of enrollment between monotherapy and tafamidis baseline patients with the upsized enrollment, and how you're thinking about confounding effects from tafamidis use?

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

So, today we ended up exactly where we intended to be, designed the trial with respect to patients that are naive to tafamidis and patients on tafamidis. And we were able to do that because there are several layers we were able to pull, and to adjust the demographics based on availability of tafamidis, to prioritize sites where tafamidis wasn't available, to get those monotherapy patients into the study, U.S. sites where tafamidis is largely present. Our target was to have a good balance between monotherapy patients and tafamidis usage in the study, and that's exactly where we landed. So we have a good balance between both.

The blinded events are, we're monitoring as we go, and they're tracking well to our projections when we you know set out and designed this trial. We're where we should be at this time with respect to mortality, CV hospitalizations. We're also very carefully monitoring blinded events in the patients that had tafamidis usage at baseline, as well as monotherapy usage at baseline. And it's tracking well. Typical CVOTs, cardiovascular outcome trials, really have a big uptick in the last year or two of their trial, and we're seeing that.

So it's tracking as we expected. We don't see any confounding effects of usage of tafamidis in the study, assuming that patients were gonna, a subset of patients, tafamidis in this study, and based on our powering assumptions and our expectations for the effect size, we took that into account when we designed the study. With respect to drop-ins in the study that, you know, patients that weren't on tafamidis at baseline, and then we're seeing almost none. A very small number of patients actually moving on tafamidis during the course of the study. It's gonna be insignificant, and it's important to remember that tafamidis takes a long time before it kicks in, so it's not gonna have a meaningful impact.

Speaker 2

Where do you see the drug being used in the patient population?

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

For cardiomyopathy, we actually think that this is gonna be a very dynamic market. When, you know, assuming approval and the WAINUA launch in cardiomyopathy. You know, in the U.S. and now in many emerging and additional ex-U.S. markets, tafamidis is the standard of care today. But I think it's really important to recognize that the vast majority of patients are continuing to progress on tafamidis. They're not getting better. They're slowing down the progression, and some patients aren't getting much benefit at all. And there's need for new treatment options, combinations or better treatments. And to predict whether or not readers are gonna treat combination usage or payers are gonna pay before there's actual data, I think is premature.

This is a dynamic market, and if our study plays out the way we expect it to play out, because of the design of the study, we think it's gonna support monotherapy usage for newly diagnosed patients. Switching for patients that aren't doing as well as a physician or cardiologist wants them to do, on tafamidis, switch to a silencer. And then thirdly, if the data supports it, to combine the usage, because we strongly believe that cardiologists if there's data to support that patients are gonna do better on combination usage, a cardiologist is gonna advocate for their patient, because they need more effective treatment options. So we think it's gonna be highly dynamic, but it's gotta be data driven, right?

We're in position to have the richest, robust, most robust data in combination usage as well as in monotherapy usage.

Speaker 2

How are you thinking about the impact of the Medicare Part D redesign, with regard to how this might position the drugs within the landscape?

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah, that's a great development for WAINUA, and all Part D drugs. You know, there was a real disadvantage for Part D drugs for many years, called the donut hole, I guess they call it, in which there was significantly higher out-of-pocket expenses for Part D drugs versus Part B drugs. That has, and WAINUA is a Part D drug, self-administered, that has largely gone away this year with the total cost to patients for all treatments, not just one treatment, but for all treatments for their disease, capped at $3,300. And now it's gonna go down to $2,000, and there's ways to help manage that with patients and reduce their out-of-pocket expenses even further.

That's a major, major advantage, improvement for Part D drugs that removes the disadvantage that has, that has, you know, hindered Part D drug out-of-pocket expenses for years. So we think that's another, you know, tailwind for WAINUA, for, for both polyneuropathy as well as for cardiomyopathy.

Speaker 2

Olezarsen, the second asset that you highlighted here, remind us on the timing and the commercial strategy for the drug and the two indications?

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah. So familial chylomicronemia syndrome, FCS, as I said earlier, is... We had remarkable phase III data in FCS, with a very clean safety profile. We presented at ACC, and published in The New England Journal. Well, not only do we show substantial reductions in triglycerides in FCS patients, this is a severe disease, a rare disease, genetic disease, that patients have all kinds of comorbidities, but the biggest risk is a risk of a potentially fatal acute pancreatitis event. If it's not fatal, it lands them almost always in the ICU for extended periods of time. We not only showed substantial reductions in triglycerides, but also a substantial reduction in acute pancreatitis events. First time ever demonstrated.

We are pushing for that all to be in the label, the AP, the triglycerides and so forth, and we're looking forward to hearing from the FDA soon on our submission and, with the potential for priority review, which would set us up for approval in December, and then launch. FCS is a stepping stone to a much larger indication, related to severely elevated triglycerides. Basically a common disease, a highly prevalent disease, that's just not genetic. FCS is genetic. They suffer from the same things, severe, severe abdominal pain, hospitalizations. I forgot to mention, in the FCS trial, we had a reduction in more than 90% in hospitalizations as well, and it wasn't just due to AP.

It was due to all kinds of other problems that patients were suffering from. Same, these patients suffer from the same thing with severe hypertriglyceridemia, millions of people in the United States, and there are not effective treatments. Today, you know, standard of care is fibrates and, and niacin, maybe. Modest effects on triglycerides, no AP data. For FCS, fish oils are not, are contraindicated because they can't take oil. They can't take, you know, oil like that. It'll just exacerbate the disease anyway. We believe that the FCS is a, it or provides, the positive data really provides meaningful read-through to a positive readout on sHTG is the same mechanism of action. We actually expect even greater triglyceride lowering in sHTG than FCS.

Although these patients have a slightly lower rate of acute pancreatitis events compared to FCS, we're. Our study is 10x the size, so we were able to collect all those AP events from a much bigger patient pool. I can tell you that we're seeing blinded AP events in the study, and if FCS predicts sHTG, the vast majority of those AP events are gonna be in the placebo group. The study's going really well. This is a blockbuster opportunity, a wholly owned program for Ionis. Our first independent commercial launch is in FCS, and then sHTG to follow, and we're looking forward to phase III data mid-year next year.

Speaker 2

Just to understand the measures that payers are most focused on here with regard to both disease areas.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

So, to that question, that also has read-through to, our markets, our commercial strategy. So sHTG is defined. FCS is straightforward. I mean, these patients, there are no treatment options in the United States for FCS. It's severe disease. We know where these patients most of them, quickly. sHTG is 3 million people in the United States alone. That's defined as 500 milligrams per deciliter and above. But where acute pancreatitis and other comorbidities really kick in, is 880 and above. That brings it down to about 1 million people in the United States.

Based on, you know, all the research we've done has led to our commercial strategy, we have identified a subset of that million, if you will, a few hundred thousand patients, where they are managed by what we refer to as aggressive treaters, early adopters. There are guideline-established guidelines for lowering triglycerides, and these endocrinologists, as well as cardiologists, are convinced because they manage these patients all the time that they need better treatment options. And when a drug like olezarsen is available, they want to jump on it and get their patients on this treatment. They're convinced. This alone, this group of early adopters who are managing people with high triglycerides that have had acute pancreatitis events already.

They're managing people with high triglycerides, who, based on their experience with patients who have had AP events, don't want their patients to have that first event. That alone is a blockbuster opportunity, and we have first mover advantage, and from there, we then build the market out. We then get out to those less aggressive treaters, and we educate them on why they need to build out this market opportunity, and they need to treat their patients, and then to more patients and more treatments. So, you know, we're really excited about this opportunity. Like I said, you know, having first mover advantage with a really exciting drug like olezarsen, we think positions us really well.

Speaker 2

Because we're on the cardiovascular vertical, your Lp(a) program with Novartis. Help us understand how the translation here from the knockdown of Lp(a) to functional-

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2

outcomes and the ability to show that through this trial.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah. I mean, this is another potential breakthrough for cardiovascular diseases. I mean, we knew of for cardiomyopathy, olezarsen for sHTG, are the same potential breakthroughs. Pelacarsen is another one. This is a form of cardiovascular disease, atherosclerosis causes strokes, heart attacks, for patients with high, highly elevated risk factor called lipoprotein(a), and there are no effective treatments for it today. Patients can be in their twenties, thirties, forties, suffering from an event, due to they're non-diabetic, not their normal cholesterol, it's due to high Lp(a). The epidemiology is incredibly strong, that if you are above a threshold of Lp(a), above 50 milligrams per deciliter, you're at risk. And the higher the Lp(a), the greater the risk.

In a phase II study that we conducted several years ago, we took those same exact patients that are in our phase III trial, actually. Normal cholesterol, non-diabetic, non-obese, high Lp(a), they've already had an event. We were able to normalize 98%+ of those patients to get them into the normal range, which we believe will then translate to outcome data, because they're now normal. Based on that data, Novartis has licensed the program, conducted a phase III outcome trial called HORIZON, where 8,000 patients have now been fully enrolled for a couple of years. That data is going to read out next year.

I mean, this is could be another landmark study, you know, from a drug that was conceived and discovered, brought forward by Ionis, for cardiovascular disease. So, you know, it'll be the first test of this hypothesis. The epidemiology data is super strong. Now, this is the first pharmacological inhibitor on whether or not we can normalize and protect patients from this form of cardiovascular disease.

Speaker 2

You also spoke earlier about the hereditary angioedema program.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2

Maybe help us understand, you know, on approval, where this would fit in the treatment paradigm, and who the early adopters would be in the context of competitive dynamics?

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah. Very different than WAINUA, very different from pelacarsen, very different from olezarsen. Hereditary angioedema prophylaxis is. There are lots of treatments available in the US. 70% of patients in the U.S. are on prophylactic treatment. Mostly lanadelumab, there's also Orladeyo. And outside the US, it's mostly on-demand treatment, right? So that's a market that has to be developed. But in the US, it's a switch market. What we reported, we had great phase II data showing remarkable efficacy and great safety in the phase II, which caused us to move to phase III development. Recognizing that this was a switch market in the United States, we did our market research, and what we learned was that patients want better efficacy. They're still having attacks.

They want better tolerability. The treatments that they are available today are not well, as well tolerated as they want them to be, and they want better convenience. With the standard subcu, with the potential to go to every four weeks, but you lose efficacy, so it's mostly every two weeks. Donidalorsen was set up to fit all that, to address all of that, with great efficacy, tolerability, and convenience, as either once per month or once every two months injection. What we reported in EAACI, a couple weeks ago, was phase III data, was great, excellent efficacy, great compliance, great tolerability.

The open label extension data, for up to a year of treatment, showed that patients were continuing to improve on monthly and bimonthly, with protection on the order of 90%+ reduction in HAE attacks, for both monthly and bimonthly, with the long-term treatment. And then, what was really novel was the switch study that we conducted. Recognizing that this was a switch market in the U.S., we did a switch study, in which, in a separate cohort, we actually invited patients that were on lanadelumab or Orladeyo, CINRYZE, to enter a clinical trial, in which we switched them over, and we did that in a thoughtful manner to protect them from losing protection for a period of time, no gaps in protection. And we conducted that study.

First, patients enrolled into the study, showing that they're willing to switch, for better—they're looking for better treatments, no, no, no gaps in protection. And what was really remarkable was not only did we protect them from gaps in protection, in gaps in coverage of their HAE attacks, they actually showed improvement compared to their baseline values, with a mean further reduction of 65% in HAE attacks. That was for some of the medicines, was 75%, but it was in that 65%-75%. So they were getting better benefit. And then, when we had conducted an independent assessment survey for those patients, asking them: What do you prefer? 85% of the patients preferred donidalorsen over the previous prophylactic treatment. And then, why? The same three reasons I gave you.

Some patients said, "Because it's more efficacious." Some patients said, "it's better tolerated." Some patients said, "I love the convenience of once per month subcutaneous self-administration." We didn't have bimonthly in the switch study, only in the phase III study, in the open label, so that is gonna add convenience when we expect to get to the market with the bimonthly option, as well as the monthly. So that's where we are with donidalorsen. We plan to submit the NDA second half of this year, with a potential approval next year and launch.

Speaker 2

The neurology platform here. Can you walk us through how you're thinking about the Biogen partnership with regard to programs and development there, and then programs you look forward to taking through development independently, whether Angelman's is actually one of those?

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah. So, you know, we believe we have a leading neurology, CNS neurology platform. With a validated platform, you know, SPINRAZA for SMA is approved. Qalsody for SOD1 ALS is approved. We've had clinical proof of concept demonstrated for our tau program in Alzheimer's disease, and now Angelman's, although we haven't presented the data yet, we're gonna do that in July. We have proof of concept in Angelman's as well, and we have, you know, half a dozen other programs in clinical development today. We have a great partnership with Biogen. They're doing a great job with Qalsody, with SPINRAZA, with the tau program, and several other programs.

Biogen had an option to license the program, and for their own internal reasons, their own internal metrics, they chose not to take the Angelman's program forward. Remember, this is a complicated phase I/II study. It's an open label study. A relatively small study, a complicated disease, but a disease where there's a huge unmet need, bigger than spinal muscular atrophy, bigger than SMA. But it's complicated. For whatever reasons, their internal metrics didn't click on certain things. I can tell you that, they we were in alignment, that there was meaningful clinical benefit demonstrated in the phase I, two study, and that the study should go forward to phase III, but it just didn't fit their internal metrics. That's great for Ionis, because this is a big opportunity for our wholly owned neurology pipeline.

To answer your question, yeah, we're taking this one ourselves, and we expect Angelman's to be the centerpiece in our wholly owned neurology pipeline. We know how to develop neurology drugs. We have a proven platform, and now we have our true centerpiece with a potential blockbuster opportunity. We're gonna present the data at the Angelman Syndrome Foundation meeting in July, and we're very much looking forward to that.

Speaker 2

And Brett, maybe a last question here. You have brought in some next-generation technologies. Maybe speak to us about the integration there and how you're thinking about external BD, but also the path to profitability and viewpoint of sustainable growth.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Yeah. So, when I moved into the CEO role, in 2020, I made two big changes. One was to fully integrate Ionis, so that we commercialize and prioritize our wholly owned pipeline and commercialize drugs of our own. You just heard all about that. We're now launching our coco with AZ, and we're progressing to our independent commercial launches. The other was to expand and diversify our technology. And, we've in-licensed several platforms to penetrate and open up new tissues, such as overcoming the blood brain barrier for CNS diseases. We can go to subcutaneous or IV routes, opening up muscle, where the first programs are gonna be moving to development next year, probably, if not the end of this year. And all that's paying out.

Business development, I think we're through. I don't think we need to in-license anything more. I think we have everything we need right now. I forgot to mention, we're also developing siRNAs as well as ASO technology for different indications where it applies best. Those are moving into clinical testing as well. You know, these programs are approaching the clinic. We think we have everything we need to be the leading genetic medicines company using ASO, siRNA, and even now, gene editing. We are partnered with Metagenomi on. With respect to, you know, our financial situation, we're very well capitalized today.

We have a strong position to be able to make the investments we need to make to ensure success, you know, over the foreseeable future. With that said, we are in a period of investment, right? We're now building our first field sales team in our history. We're preparing to launch our first independent launches, and we're wrapping up some very big phase III studies. The Angelman study will be smaller than the ones we have going on now, but we're wrapping those up, but we're still in a period of investment.

And what you can see is that, you know, with the launch of WAINUA, then olezarsen, towards the end of next year, and then pelacarsen, if any subset of these hit the mark, you know, are successful, what you can see us set up to be is really in a great position from a financial position with respect to revenue growth and sustainable revenue growth, not too far down the road. So, stay tuned as these programs read out.

Speaker 2

With that, Brett, thank you so much.

Brett Monia
CEO, Ionis Pharmaceuticals

Thank you.

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