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Earnings Call: Q4 2011

Feb 9, 2012

Operator

Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen, for standing by. Welcome to the fourth quarter 2011 Prudential Financial earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will be given at that time. Should you require assist during the call, please press star then zero. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to our host, Mr. Eric Durant. Please go ahead.

Eric Durant
Head of Investor Relations, Prudential Financial

Thank you, Karen, and thank you to all of you for joining our earnings call, the first in our 11th year as a public company. Participants on today's call include John Strangfeld, CEO, Mark Grier, Vice Chairman, Rich Carbone, CFO, Ed Baird, Head of International Operations, Charlie Lowrey, Head of Domestic Operations, and Peter Sayre, Principal Accounting Officer. I will read a quick commercial message and then we'll get started. In order to help you to understand Prudential Financial, we will make some forward-looking statements in the following presentation. It is possible that actual results may differ materially from the predictions we make today. Additional information regarding factors that could cause such a difference appears in the section titled Forward-Looking Statements and Non-GAAP Measures of our earnings press release for the fourth quarter of 2011, which can be found on our website at www.investor.prudential.com.

In addition, in managing our businesses, we use a non-GAAP measure we call adjusted operating income to measure the performance of our financial services businesses. Adjusted operating income excludes net investment gains and losses as adjusted and related charges and adjustments, as well as results from divested businesses. Adjusted operating income also excludes recorded changes in asset values that are expected to ultimately accrue to contract holders and recorded changes in contract holder liabilities resulting from changes in related asset values. Our earnings press release contains information about our definition of adjusted operating income. The comparable GAAP presentation and the reconciliation between the two for the quarter and year ended December 31st are set out in our earnings press release on our website. Additional historical information relating to the company's financial performance is also located on our website. John.

John R. Strangfeld
Chairman and CEO, Prudential Financial

Thank you, Eric. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. Now that we've closed the books on 2011, I will kick things off with some high-level comments on the year as a whole. First, earnings. Earnings per share based on after-tax adjusted operating income of the financial services businesses were $6.41 compared to $6.17 a year ago. This modest improvement in EPS does not reflect our progress during the year. If you remove the market-driven and discrete items we've disclosed each quarter, which Rich and Mark will review with you for the fourth quarter, the EPS increase would be 22%. Second, capital. Our capital position remains exceedingly strong. We are well-positioned to pursue business opportunities, and we have capacity to remain strongly capitalized even in stress environments.

As for capital management, we will continue to seek acquisitions where we can realize attractive returns and are comfortable with the execution risk, such as our acquisition of Star and Edison. At the same time, we take a balanced approach to investing in businesses and returning capital to shareholders. During the second half, we returned about $1.7 billion of capital to shareholders through our share repurchase program and increased dividend. We did this while maintaining a solid balance sheet and growing book value. Third, commercial momentum. We are a leader in the markets we've chosen to compete in, and you can see strong commercial momentum reflected in our business drivers. Solid sales and flows drove underlying growth in our U.S. businesses, with headlines in retirement and asset management.

Prudential Retirement's gross deposits and sales reached a record high at $44 billion, driven by strong sales in the institutional stable value wrap market and including groundbreaking defined benefit risk transfer sales. Account values and annuities in Retirement registered significant gains from a year earlier, and AUM in Asset Management exceeded the $600 billion mark for the first time. As you know, we strengthened our international business with the Star and Edison acquisitions last February. Business integration is well on track, with the successful completion of the merger of Star and Edison into Gibraltar on January 1 being a major event. We remain confident that we will achieve planned expense savings on schedule. In international insurance, we're benefiting from expanding distribution and continued growth in the life insurance protection retirement markets.

Among our milestones in 2011 was more than $3 billion of annualized new business premiums, including the initial contribution from Star and Edison and a growing contribution from the bank channel in Japan. To conclude, Prudential had a very good year, driven by the quality of our individual businesses, by the mix of those businesses, by our financial strength, and we believe, by the talent of our people. Our solid results enhance our confidence that we will achieve our ROE aspiration of 13%-14% for 2013. With that, I'll turn it over to Rich.

Richard J. Carbone
EVP and CFO, Prudential Financial

Thanks, John. Good morning, everyone. Last night, we reported common stock earnings per share of $1.97 for the fourth quarter based on adjusted operating income for the Prudential Services business. This compares to $1.76 per share in the year-ago quarter. We have a short but not insignificant list of market-driven and discrete items affecting current quarter results

In the annuities business, the equity market increase in the quarter caused us to release a portion of our reserves for guaranteed minimum death and income benefits and led to a favorable DAC unlocking, resulting in a benefit totaling $0.28 per share. In individual life, the equity market increase in the quarter showed a reduction in net amortization of DAC and related items for a benefit of $0.03 per share, and the international insurance, Gibraltar Life and other operations benefited by $0.15 per share from the sale of our stake in a pension fund manager in Mexico. This benefit was largely offset by the integration cost of $0.13 relating to the Star Edison acquisition. In total, the items I just mentioned had a net favorable impact of about $0.33 per share on the fourth quarter results.

The year-ago quarter benefited about $0.32 per share from unlockings and reserve releases, mainly from the 10% increase in the S&P 500 in that quarter and from the gain on the partial sale of the indirect investment in the China Pacific Life group. Taking these items out of both the current and the year-ago quarters would produce an EPS increase of about $0.14 per share, driven largely by organic business growth and the contribution of Star Edison earnings, ex the one-time charges, of course. Moving on to the GAAP results of our financial services business. We reported net income of $606 million, or $1.26 per share for the fourth quarter, compared to $2.13 or $0.45 per share a year ago. GAAP net income for the current quarter includes amounts characterized as pretax realized investment losses of $568 million.

This compares to $906 million of pretax realized investment losses in the year-ago quarter. The $568 million of current quarter losses includes net losses of $367 million, primarily from product-related hedging activities. Impairments and credit losses amounted to $142 million, and losses from asset and liability value changes, driven mainly by currency fluctuations, amounted to $95 million. These losses were partially offset by net gains from general portfolio activities, mainly sales. Book value per share on a GAAP basis amounted to $75.04 at year-end, and this compares to $63.11 a year earlier. As of year-end, gross unrealized losses on the general account fixed maturities were $4.3 billion. This compares to $3.1 billion a year ago, with nearly all of the increases taking place in the third quarter and mainly resulting from foreign currency movements. We ended the year in a net unrealized gain position of $10.5 billion.

Book value per share, excluding unrealized investment gains and losses and pension and post-retirement benefits, stood at $66.63 at year-end, up $7.15 from a year ago, and of course, that is after giving effect to our common stock dividend of $1.45 per share, a 26% increase from the 2010 dividend. Now our capital position. First, I'll focus on the insurance companies. We are continuing to manage these companies to capital levels consistent with what we believe are double A standards. Prudential Insurance began last year with an RBC ratio of 533%. During the year, Prudential Insurance paid dividends totaling $1.6 billion to the holding company, Prudential Financial Inc., essentially moving excess capital to the parent company and thereby enhancing our financial flexibility. While statutory results for 2011 are not yet final, we estimate that RBC for Prudential Insurance as of year-end 2011 will be in the 500 range.

Our Japanese insurance companies recently reported their solvency margins as of September 30, 2011, using both the historical calculation method and the new method that becomes effective this year. These companies were comfortably above their targets under both methods. Effective January 1st, we successfully merged the Star and Edison companies into Gibraltar Life. We are confident at the end of their current fiscal year, which ends March 31st, 2012, our Japanese companies will continue to report strong solvency margins relative to their targets. Next, looking at the overall capital position for the financial services business. As you know, we calculate our balance sheet capital capacity by comparing the statutory capital position in Prudential Insurance to a 400 RBC ratio and then add capital capacity held at both the parent and other subsidiaries.

We began 2011 with on-balance sheet capital capacity that we estimated was in the range of $4 billion-$4.5 billion. That was after adjusting for the Star and Edison acquisition and the sale of Global Commodities. During 2011, we added about $3.5 billion of capital and used about $2 billion of that to fund the capital needs of our businesses. We returned about $1.7 billion to shareholders through our share repurchase program and our common stock dividend. The remaining authorization under the share repurchase program, which extends through 2012, is $500 million. The net result of these activities left our on-balance sheet capital capacity essentially unchanged from where we began 2011, about $4 billion-$4.5 billion. This is consistent with the estimate we provided you in November, really nothing has changed on our capital capacity, that is.

Of our $4 billion-$4.5 billion in capital capacity, we estimate that about half is readily deployable. Now turning to the cash position at the holding company, the parent company. Cash and short-term investments net of outstanding commercial paper amounted to roughly $3 billion at year-end. We continue to target maintaining at least a $1 billion liquidity cushion at the parent. The excess of our capital position over this target is available to repay maturing debt, fund operating needs of our subsidiaries, and to be redeployed over time, including for share repurchases. Now I'll turn over to Mark to review the business results for the quarter.

Mark B. Grier
Vice Chairman, Prudential Financial

Excuse me. Thank you, Rich. Good morning, good afternoon, or good evening, whichever's appropriate. I'll start with our U.S. businesses. Our annuity business reported adjusted operating income of $391 million for the fourth quarter, compared to $345 million a year ago. The reserve true-ups and DAC unlocking that Rich mentioned had a net favorable impact of $180 million on current quarter results. This includes a benefit of $121 million from the release of a portion of our reserves for guaranteed minimum death and income benefits, and a further benefit of $59 million from reduced amortization of deferred policy acquisition and other costs. In both cases, reflecting favorable market performance. Results for the year-ago quarter included a net benefit of $146 million from a favorable DAC unlocking and reserve true-ups, largely driven by the 10% increase in the S&P 500 that quarter.

Stripping out the unlockings and true-ups, annuity results were $211 million for the current quarter, compared to $199 million a year ago, for an increase of $12 million. This increase represents the net effect of growth in our fees at a very solid pace, partly offset by a higher level of base DAC amortization and by higher expenses and interest charges in the current quarter. Policy charges and fee income in the quarter increased by $57 million, or 14% from a year ago, reflecting an increase of $10 billion in average variable annuity separate account values, driven by $13 billion in net sales over the past year. We've accelerated our base level of DAC amortization in the current quarter, following our negative unlocking in the third quarter.

Current quarter expenses were higher than a year ago, partly as a result of business development costs, and interest expense was also higher, reflecting the financing of commissions and other costs of writing new business. Our gross variable annuity sales for the quarter amounted to $4.4 billion, in line with the second and third quarters. This compares to $6.1 billion a year ago, when new business was bolstered by sales in advance of the repricing of our annuity product in early 2011. Our relative position within the top few variable annuity writers from one quarter to another reflects the constant dynamic of changes in the marketplace, including actions by competitors to revamp their products, which led, in some instances, to sales surges due to product introductions or in anticipation of future retrenchments or repricings.

Our Highest Daily Protected Value feature, coupled with auto-rebalancing tailored to each customer's account, clearly distinguishes our product and has a proven track record of more than five years with clients and their advisors. We strongly believe that our consistent approach to product design and our demonstrated commitment to the advisor-sold variable annuity business provide us with a solid competitive advantage in the market that is very much driven by third-party gatekeepers and distributors, and that the various waves of product design changes, market entries, exits, and reentries by various providers serve to distinguish us and strengthen our position with our distribution partners. The retirement segment reported adjusted operating income of $142 million for the current quarter, compared to $147 million a year ago. The decrease reflected a lower contribution from investment results, mainly driven by non-coupon asset classes.

The weaker investment results in the current quarter were partly offset by higher fees, reflecting an account value growth in institutional investment products and by lower expenses. Total retirement growth deposits and sales reached a record high $14.7 billion for the quarter, up 33% from a year ago. The increase was driven by sales of stable value wrap products sold to plan sponsors on a standalone basis, which amounted to $8.8 billion in the quarter, up from $6 billion a year ago. Standalone institutional sales also included two longevity reinsurance cases totaling $1.6 billion in the emerging defined benefit risk transfer market, where we are developing innovative solutions to help plan sponsors and benefit providers manage the risks of defined benefit pension plans.

These DBRT sales follow our initial pension risk transfer sales earlier in the year, which included a pension plan buy-in of a specifically designed annuity product, the first of its kind in the U.S. market. While this market is still developing, we see this as a long-term opportunity where we will be among just a few companies that can offer effective solutions to deal with defined benefit pension plan risks. Full service retirement gross deposits and sales were $3.9 billion in the current quarter, compared to $4.1 billion a year ago. We are continuing to see slow case turnover in the mid to large case market, which is our primary focus. Lapses of two large cases, primarily recordkeeping services cases with relatively limited fees, contributed to net outflows for our full service business of about $2 billion in the quarter.

Overall, net additions for the retirement business were $6.7 billion for the quarter, compared to $4.5 billion a year ago. Account values stood at a record high $229.5 billion at the end of the quarter, up 12% from a year ago. The asset management business reported adjusted operating income of $155 million for the current quarter, compared to $132 million a year ago, for a 17% increase in earnings. The improvement in results came mainly from higher asset management fees driven by growth in assets under management. The segment's assets under management reached $619 billion as of year-end, up about $80 billion or 15% from a year earlier. The increase in AUM reflected positive net flows in each of the past four quarters, cumulative market appreciation, and the addition of about $15 billion, primarily U.S. dollar general account assets from the Star and Edison acquisitions last February.

The increase in earnings for the quarter also reflected a $7 million greater contribution from performance-based fees driven by institutional fixed income and real estate funds we manage. Adjusted operating income for our individual life insurance business was $146 million for the current quarter, compared to $131 million a year ago. Lower amortization of deferred policy acquisition costs and other items reflecting favorable separate account performance in relation to our assumptions benefited the current quarter by about $20 million and contributed about $10 million to the increase in results from the year-ago quarter, which also benefited from market performance. In addition, current quarter results benefited from a greater contribution from underwriting results driven by growth in our books of universal life and term insurance, reflecting an increase of $24 billion or 5% in insurance in force for those products over the past year.

Mortality was favorable in relation to our average expectations for both the current quarter and the year-ago quarter and had a modest positive impact in the comparison of quarterly results. Sales based on annualized new business premiums amounted to $75 million for the current quarter, up from $67 million a year ago. The increase was driven by third-party sales and reflects our improved relative competitive position in the universal life market. The group insurance business reported adjusted operating income of $55 million in the current quarter, compared to $69 million a year ago. Higher current quarter expenses, a lower contribution from investment results, and less favorable group disability underwriting results each contributed to the earnings decline. More favorable group life underwriting results reflecting business growth and improved claims experience was a partial offset. Group insurance sales for the quarter were $86 million, including $49 million for group life.

This compares to a total of $109 million a year ago. More than three-quarters of our group life sales in the current quarter and about two-thirds for the full year were voluntary business, representing coverage purchased by employees or association members rather than employer-paid insurance. Turning now to our international businesses. Gibraltar Life's adjusted operating income was $356 million in the current quarter, compared to $260 million a year ago. As Rich mentioned, Gibraltar's results for the current quarter include income of $96 million from the sale of our stake in Afore XXI, a pension fund manager in Mexico. Going the other way, Gibraltar's results for the quarter absorbed $94 million of integration costs for the Star and Edison acquisition.

We continue to expect about $500 million of integration costs over a five-year period, including roughly $200 million in 2012, to achieve targeted annual cost savings of about $200 million after the business integration is completed. Our completion of the merger of the Star and Edison legal entities into Gibraltar, effective January 1st of this year, was a major milestone, and the migration of the acquired investment portfolio to a more favorable risk profile is substantially complete. The business integration, including product transitioning, merging of field offices, and migration of the Star and Edison sales forces to Prudential training and productivity standards, is on track. Gibraltar's results for the year-ago quarter included income of $66 million from the partial sale of our indirect investment in China Pacific Group.

Excluding the Afore and China Pacific gains and the Star and Edison integration costs, Gibraltar's adjusted operating income was up $160 million from a year ago. This increase includes a $128 million contribution to current quarter results from the operations of the acquired Star and Edison businesses. True-ups and refinements have resulted in some noise in our results for Star and Edison, both in the current quarter and the earlier quarters of the year. I would think of the average contribution for the first three full quarters, just over $100 million per quarter, as more indicative of the initial operating results before realization of most of the expense synergies we are targeting. Excuse me. The remainder of the increase in Gibraltar's results from a year ago, or $32 million, came mainly from business growth driven by protection products.

Sales from Gibraltar Life, based on annualized new business premiums in constant dollars, were $519 million in the current quarter. This represents an increase of $266 million from a year ago, including $218 million from Star and Edison distribution and $48 million of organic growth, which would be a 19% increase on a same store basis. The Star and Edison sales include about $140 million from life advisors and about $75 million from independent agents, including about $20 million from a product that we have discontinued as part of the integration of the product portfolio. The Star and Edison agents are migrating to sales of Gibraltar products, and their strong production in the current quarter, up more than 20% from the average of the second and third quarters, reflects the popularity of our U.S. dollar retirement product with their clients.

Our organic growth in sales for the quarter was largely driven by the bank channel, where we are continuing to broaden our reach. The distribution agreement we signed a few months ago with Mizuho, Japan's third largest bank, expanded our distribution to include two of the country's three largest banks, and we began to write business through Mizuho in the fourth quarter. Our Life Planner business reported adjusted operating income of $336 million for the current quarter, compared to $328 million a year ago. Current quarter results benefited from continued business growth. On a constant dollar basis, insurance revenues, including premiums, policy charges, and fees, were up 6% from a year ago. However, the benefit from continued growth was partly offset in the quarterly comparison by less favorable mortality versus a year ago, when the mortality contribution was stronger than our average expectations.

Sales from our Life Planner operations, based on annualized new business premiums in constant dollars, were $280 million in the current quarter, up from $269 million a year ago. We are continuing to benefit from strong demand for retirement income products both in Japan and our other Asian markets. Corporate and other operations reported a loss of $281 million for the current quarter compared to $239 million loss a year ago. The increased loss in the current quarter reflects a higher level of capital debt, including the impact of debt financing for part of the purchase price of Star and Edison, as well as higher expenses, including some nonlinear items such as corporate advertising and employee benefits. To wrap up, I would say that the fourth quarter was a strong conclusion to a very good year for us. Thank you for your interest in Prudential.

We look forward to hearing your questions.

Eric Durant
Head of Investor Relations, Prudential Financial

Before we take the first question, two quick housekeeping matters. The share repurchase authorization of $1.5 billion that Rich mentioned extends through the end of June 2012, not through the end of the year.

Mark B. Grier
Vice Chairman, Prudential Financial

Oh, okay.

Eric Durant
Head of Investor Relations, Prudential Financial

Secondly, the expected expense savings associated with Star and Edison ultimately are expected to amount to $250 million, not $200 million. For your questions.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question, please press star then one on your touch tone phone. You will hear a tone indicating you have been placed in queue. You may remove yourself from queue anytime by pressing the pound key. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up the handset before pressing the numbers. Once again, if you have a question, star one at this time. Mr. Suneet Kamath, Sanford Bernstein, please go ahead.

Suneet Kamath
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Thanks. Good morning. My first question's on the pace of share buybacks, obviously lower in the fourth quarter versus the third quarter. It certainly came as a surprise to me, perhaps others as well. Just want to get a sense of what governed that decision, in terms of your thinking about the third quarter and then ultimately what happened in the fourth quarter.

Mark B. Grier
Vice Chairman, Prudential Financial

This is Mark. I guess I'd start the answer by saying don't try to read something into it that isn't there. We take a fairly long view of capital deployment. We were uncharacteristically opportunistic in the third quarter. Almost by definition, if you speed up a little bit sometimes you're going to slow down a little bit some other times, and it's nothing more than that. We're on track with respect to implementing our capital deployment plans. Balance sheet's very strong. Liquidity is very strong. I would encourage you to take a longer view than just a quarter-to-quarter fluctuation. This is not a trading environment for us. Again, we were opportunistic in the third quarter. We're on track with respect to our longer term objectives and comfortable with the trajectory.

Suneet Kamath
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Okay, thanks. I guess my second question on capital is, if I go back to the investor slides that you put out, I think it was in December, you talked about the required capital increasing by about $2 billion in the 2011 year. Given where we sit today, annuities are slowing down, at least relative to the first quarter. You have these institutional investment products. I guess I'm not quite sure what the capital requirements on those are and how they compare to annuities. You have this longevity risk transfer business that you're adding. When you think about the business mix shifts that are occurring in terms of new business, any changes to the $2 billion number in terms of incremental capital that you needed last year as you think about this year?

John R. Strangfeld
Chairman and CEO, Prudential Financial

You've hit on all the right points. It's going to depend on the business. All of that capital, one way or another, is going to be deployed at rates that are going to support our 13%-14% ROE goal.

Whether they're used in buybacks or they're used in business, they're going to support that goal for 2013.

Suneet Kamath
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Understood. I guess maybe just to track it a little bit, if we compare annuities to institutional investment products, obviously the requirements for annuities have gone up over time. How do those two businesses compare in terms of their capital needs?

John R. Strangfeld
Chairman and CEO, Prudential Financial

Well, they have two different metrics in which their capital needs are driven, right? Annuities capital needs are driven mostly by the deferred acquisition costs that we pay upfront, and in the other products, they're driven a lot by longevity and credit risk. I'm loathe to give you a rule of thumb that's going to reconcile pi to Avogadro's number.

Mark B. Grier
Vice Chairman, Prudential Financial

Suneet, the capital requirements on the investment-only stable value products are pretty small. Annuities are more capital intensive, and that's the directional answer. As Rich points out, it does depend on some of the specifics of the products. Annuities would be more capital intensive than investment-only stable value.

Suneet Kamath
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Okay. Perhaps favorable mix shift. Thanks very much.

Mark B. Grier
Vice Chairman, Prudential Financial

Yeah. Favorable mix shift if annuities slow down and Investment Only Stable Value speeds up, yes. The wild card is the defined benefit risk transfer.

Suneet Kamath
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

How would those compare to annuities?

Mark B. Grier
Vice Chairman, Prudential Financial

Well, off the top of my head, I'd have to say maybe it's sort of in the middle. That's one where we could do quite a lot of business if the market really does get going. The wild card there that I'm referencing is more the potential volume in a market that's just developing.

John R. Strangfeld
Chairman and CEO, Prudential Financial

Yeah. I'd say that was a push, but once again, I want to make the point that the ROEs on these products are supporting that 13%-14% return.

Suneet Kamath
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Nigel Dally, Morgan Stanley, please go ahead.

Nigel P. Dally
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks. Another question on capital. To move the ROE towards the 2013 target, you're obviously going to need to redeploy a substantial amount of support of $4.5 billion of excess capital. In addition to buybacks, you mentioned potential acquisition opportunities in your comments. Should we imply from that that the pipeline of potential targets is beginning to improve? Also, can you provide a pecking order of what products or geographies are of greatest interest to you? Perhaps if we start there, I'll follow up.

John R. Strangfeld
Chairman and CEO, Prudential Financial

Okay. Nigel, if I don't cover it, you tell me. This is John. A couple thoughts about that. First, vis-à-vis the ROE targets. The way we think of achieving the aspiration, as Rich described, as I mentioned in my prepared comments, that there are three primary things that are going to get us there. One is the successful integration of Star and Edison, You've heard the progress we're making on that front. The second is the continuing growth of our high-returning businesses, You're seeing strong fundamentals in those businesses. The third is also successful deployment of our excess capital, both that which we have and that which we create over time.

When we think in terms of M&A, I have to sort of step back first and say, let's just talk about opportunity sets first and then go to M&A, at the risk of giving you a longer response than what you're looking for. I think it's more representative of how we think about this, which is that clearly in our mind, organic is cheaper and it's a less intrusive way to develop the business. At times like this, the combination of strong brand, strong capital, and unquestioned commitments in the lines of business in which we're in have been very advantageous, and you see that showing up in our fundamentals. That's the first order of priority we have in terms of growing our business over time. It's not just a theory, it's reality, and you can see it. That's where our business leadership is focused.

In some cases, it manifests itself in new products as well, or new distribution channels and in new business areas, as Mark mentioned with defined benefit risk transfer and the progress there. We're feeling very, very good about it. Now, insofar as M&A, there's not a different story here. There's a number of franchises in place, and the outcomes and the timelines of those things are uncertain. Whether we wind up simply competing with them or whether we wind up buying with them is going to be a product of a whole lot of considerations and market dynamics. We're obviously a good counterparty. We've proven that, as an example, with AIG and other things we've done in the past, but we really can't predict the likelihood of this. It is important to say that we don't think our prospects are M&A-dependent.

That's the key thing, in the sense that M&A is an opportunistic overlay to what we think is a very healthy, organic strategy and trajectory. Finally, as to your comment about, well, what would be more interesting to us? I think I'd just basically say it's very consistent with what we said before, retirement and protection, U.S. and abroad. What you see we tend to most commonly find of interest is broadening our activities in areas where we already have a footprint, Japan being the most classic example of that. Obviously, we all can have some interest in broadening the footprint itself, but more commonly, what you see us doing is going more deeply within the markets in which we're already in.

That would be how I would characterize the overall picture, defining it from the big opportunity set, the perception about organic being the primary focus and thrust, the perception that we've got new product development and other things that we think have great promise, and that M&A will be an opportunistic overlay in the manner that I described. That's how I respond to your question.

Nigel P. Dally
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great. Very helpful. Second question was just on group disability. Clearly, it is still a challenging backdrop there. Can you discuss what you have done with pricing in that business and how quickly that potentially could flow through to improve the overall results?

Charles F. Lowrey
EVP and COO, U.S. Businesses, Prudential Financial

Sure, Nigel, it is Charlie. Obviously, disability, we had a challenging quarter this quarter. I think that really reflects the continuing effects of the economy. I think in terms of pricing, most of our cases are large cases, which means that they are experiential. Since we have had relatively poor experience, we are able to increase the pricing. We are doing that, and we have been doing that since probably halfway through last year. Most of our cases are two years or less. We are beginning to work our way through the pipeline, so to speak.

Nigel P. Dally
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Mark Finkelstein, Evercore Partners, please go ahead.

A. Mark Finkelstein
Analyst, Evercore Partners

Hi, good morning. Actually, just a follow-up to the prior question. Can you give us some benchmark as to what are the average rate increases that you're getting on the cases that you are renewing?

Charles F. Lowrey
EVP and COO, U.S. Businesses, Prudential Financial

Yeah. I don't mean to dodge the question, they really are experiential. You get some that are in the low single digits. You get some that are in the double digits. It really depends on the experience. I think it's fair to say that we're looking at it extremely closely, and we are getting pricing increases as we go forward.

A. Mark Finkelstein
Analyst, Evercore Partners

Okay. Maybe just one follow-up as well on capital. You have $500 million left in the authorization. On the last call, Mark characterized it as a fluid evolving process that you look at continually. Last year you spent about what you generated, call it a billion and a half. What do you need to see or what is it that has to happen to really start dipping into that, what you characterize as readily deployable capital, which you characterized as half of that $4 billion-$4.5 billion?

Richard J. Carbone
EVP and CFO, Prudential Financial

There's another ingredient to that mix, right? That's the absolute leverage ratio. We've got this targeted 25% at the capital ratio. It's important for us. It's important for our rating. That is one ingredient in there that we're always mindful of. Other than that, as capital becomes available at the holding company, we'll reevaluate our buybacks, and we'll reevaluate our dividends.

Mark B. Grier
Vice Chairman, Prudential Financial

Yeah, Mark, we have a plan for the way in which capital emerges and the way in which it's deployed in the businesses. We'll be looking at a range of variables, including financial ratios that Rich mentioned. We're pretty comfortable with where we are and the deployment track and business track to realize the objective that we've set out there. Keep in mind, though, that when we set an objective of 13%-14%, we didn't qualify it by saying it's easy. That reflects what we believe is the earnings power of the company supported by an appropriate capital structure. We've got to manage to realize that earnings power. We have to deploy the capital. Rich emphasized earlier that everything we do is focused on ensuring that we're accretive to that capital outcome.

The context of this is that we do have a vision of earnings power and capital that will realize our objective, and we're going to manage to it.

Richard J. Carbone
EVP and CFO, Prudential Financial

Our capital plans are hardwired into that 13%-14% return.

A. Mark Finkelstein
Analyst, Evercore Partners

Okay. One just very quick follow-up to that is, if I go back, call it three, four, five years, you used to give sensitivities to S&P movements kind of in a range of, say, 30-50 RBC points for every 100-point move in the S&P. I know it's totally changed right now. Those old metrics are no longer that useful. Is there anything that we can point to just think about how S&P moves drive capital?

Eric Durant
Head of Investor Relations, Prudential Financial

Hey, Mark, it's Eric. Maybe my memory is failing me, but that is not something that we've done in the past, and we're not going to start that today.

A. Mark Finkelstein
Analyst, Evercore Partners

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Christopher Giovanni, Goldman Sachs, please go ahead.

Christopher Giovanni
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thanks so much. Good morning. I wanted to see if you could talk some about sort of the current status today as a savings and loan company. I believe you're working with the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, which I think is your overseer here on the supervisory side to deregister as a savings and loan. I wanted to kind of walk through this process and sort of what you deem as the benefits to the extent that you get deregistered.

Mark B. Grier
Vice Chairman, Prudential Financial

This is Mark. I'll start, and maybe I'll ask Charlie to make a comment on the business if he wants to. I use a little bit broader framework than just deregister. We're in the process of managing the thrift in a way that will remove us from automatic coverage by the Volcker Rule. The issue with respect to the impact of the Volcker Rule is concentrated for us in the asset management business where we do sponsor funds and co-invest, the level of activity and market expectations in that arena for us are both inconsistent with compliance with the Volcker Rule. We're looking at the options that we have. You indicated working with regulators.

We are working with regulators to assess our options, and we anticipate that over the next few months, we will manage the thrift to a situation where we won't be automatically subject to the Volcker Rule. I don't know if Charlie wants to add something to the asset management business piece of it, the objective here is related to our business models in asset management and our ability to execute what is a very successful business for us.

Charles F. Lowrey
EVP and COO, U.S. Businesses, Prudential Financial

No, I think that covers it well.

Christopher Giovanni
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay, thanks. That's helpful. Just second question in terms of the VA business. I guess your largest competitor has made a commitment here to dial back noticeably in the market and wanted to see if here early in 1Q, if you're seeing sales levels pick up as they look to retrench or how you're seeing the VA marketplace today, similar along those lines, how you're viewing your current product.

Charles F. Lowrey
EVP and COO, U.S. Businesses, Prudential Financial

Okay. I can't really talk about the first quarter, but what I can do is just talk about the consistency of our sales. We really look for sustainable, profitable growth. If you look what we did at the beginning of last year, we reduced the benefits and increased the pricing with the acknowledgment that interest rates were probably going to be low and stay low for quite a period of time. That allowed us to have a consistency of product with a sustainable profitability over the long term, and that's what really we look for. The last three quarters, including the fourth quarter, have had a sustainable and fairly level rate of sales. We feel comfortable with that level and we'll look to see what happens this year. We feel comfortable with what happened last year and where we are in terms of the product.

Christopher Giovanni
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Jimmy Bhullar, J.P. Morgan, please go ahead.

Jimmy Bhullar
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Hi. Thanks. I had a few questions. The first on your Japan business. Your sales in the bank channel obviously grew at a strong pace versus the previous year, but declined sequentially in the fourth quarter. I just wanted to get an idea on if you think you've saturated the market there, or do you think there's opportunity for further growth? On the retirement business, in the full service retirement side, you've had negative flows for the last several quarters, and your views on that business have gotten more negative over the past couple of years. Just wanted to see what your outlook is for the full service retirement. Lastly, on the institutional retirement side, if you could just talk about the pipeline.

What do you see in the pipeline, and what type of pricing are you seeing in that business, given that a lot of competitors have actually dropped out?

Edward P. Baird
EVP and COO, International Businesses, Prudential Financial

We'll start with Japan and Ed. Yeah. Jimmy, yeah, it's Ed Baird. The fourth quarter bank channel sales were, as you pointed out, they were actually up 32%, which is a meaningful increase over the comparison quarter. If you compare it to the preceding quarter, not as strong. I think that might be the first time that that's happened in several years, because this channel, of course, has grown at an extraordinary rate. I don't attribute any meaningful significance to that other than the fact that the third quarter was up around 70%. The fact that the fourth quarter wasn't able to exceed that by going up only 32%, is not a point of concern.

One of the big banks was a little lower than they had been in the prior quarter, we continue to add banks, we continue to deepen our penetration with them. I think that the long-term trend here continues to be quite positive. With any third-party distribution, you're going to see characteristic fluctuation quarter to quarter. I think if you look at this on any rolling quarter basis, this has an extraordinary amount of momentum in it.

Jimmy Bhullar
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Thanks.

Charles F. Lowrey
EVP and COO, U.S. Businesses, Prudential Financial

Charlie? Okay. Let me answer. You had two questions. I'll answer the one about full service outflows first. The backdrop here is that we are in the mid to large end of the market. There, that we're still seeing what we saw before, which is low plan formation, not a lot of RFPs out there, and that's affecting plan sales. We're also seeing, as we talked about before, further unbundling in the marketplace and fee disclosures. All of that affects, I think, over time, the profitability of the business. We look at the business, and we still like the business, but we're going to exhibit, I think, a fair amount of price discipline in what we choose to take or what we let lapse. You've seen some of that this quarter. I think that begins to explain at least some of the outflows that we see.

We're comfortable with the business we're writing, and we're comfortable with the business we're letting lapse. The other side of the business, though, as you talk about the IIP business, as we call it, and the investment-only stable value, we're still very pleased with. We think there is a dearth of this kind of product in the marketplace. Pricing is holding up very well, and we continue to see a fair amount of opportunity in this side of the business. We'll continue to focus on both sides, but in terms of near-term opportunity, I think the IOSV business has a lot of growth potential left. Jimmy, was your question about investment-only stable value or about defined benefit risk transfer?

Jimmy Bhullar
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

No, just on the defined benefit risk transfer, because you had a couple of large cases, I think, in the U.K. market in the fourth quarter.

Charles F. Lowrey
EVP and COO, U.S. Businesses, Prudential Financial

Yeah. Sorry, I missed that. In terms of defined benefit risk transfer, I'll take the U.K. and then the U.S. In the U.K., we did do some interesting deals, and they were reinsurance deals on the longevity side. We see that as a market that will continue. The U.K. is, I think, well ahead of the U.S. and has been for years in terms of pension risk transfer and especially longevity risk. We are participating in that and see a fair amount of opportunity. In the U.S., I think, as I just said, the market's a little further behind. We do think this will be a business going forward, but it's challenging, obviously, given the low interest rates now and the underfunding of the pension plans.

It's a business that we have built up significant capabilities in and think that there will be, over the long term, some significant opportunities going forward.

Jimmy Bhullar
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Thank you.

Richard J. Carbone
EVP and CFO, Prudential Financial

We're going to be probably in the $170 million range or so, meaning 2012, towards the $250 target.

Mark B. Grier
Vice Chairman, Prudential Financial

Will go. Remember that there's a process that would involve the nomination of a company for consideration by the Financial Stability Oversight Council, and then a discussion with the company and an opportunity to talk about what it looks like and what that might mean, and then questions going forward about exactly how any particular company might be regulated with respect to the metrics and the calibration of those metrics as a non-bank SIFI in the case of Prudential. We continue to engage with respect to discussions on the financial dynamics of insurance companies, particularly in contrast to banks, and we continue to engage on understanding products and risk. One of the sensitivities that I've talked about repeatedly is the need to understand statutory reserving practices, because we have capital spread all over the place up and down our liability side because of the way we recognize our stochastic liabilities.

Contemplated the treatment of non-bank SIFIs, in the paper, the statement was that they would be looked at the same way banks are looked at. It really, I believe, was an opportunity to engage and a chance for the non-bank SIFI world in general, the insurance world, and then Prudential more specifically, to comment on the impact of that and how we would think about it. The specific question about how effective that might be and understanding unintended consequences are all important there. We have the opportunity over the next couple of months to engage seriously on the issue that we've always thought was most important, which is how we would be looked at if we were a non-bank SIFI.

We'll be prepared to make a constructive comment on that framework and on the issues that we're thinking about in terms of possibly regulated as a SIFI. The headline is a bit of uncertainty still process-wise and even with respect to whether or not we would be designated systemically important and the opportunity right now to engage on substantive issues around what it might mean if we were.

John Nadel
Analyst, Sterne Agee

Makes sense. Thank you.

Operator

John Nadel, Stern Agee. Please go ahead.

John Nadel
Analyst, Sterne Agee

Thank you. Good morning. A couple quick ones. I realize acquisitions are all unique in terms of the financial metrics, just generally speaking, I'm interested in how you would characterize your capacity to execute a deal with no external financing. Should we focus more on the $2 billion of what Rich referred to as readily deployable, or could we focus on something closer to the $4 billion-$4.5 billion of total capital capacity?

Richard J. Carbone
EVP and CFO, Prudential Financial

It depends on where the acquisition is, right? Acquisitions made out of the holding company, you need to focus on the $2 billion-$2.3 billion. Acquisitions that can be done partially inside those regulated entities with that other capital capacity, we could absorb that capital capacity with that excess RBC.

John Nadel
Analyst, Sterne Agee

Okay. Interesting. That's helpful. Just a follow-up on your commentary, Rich, on the debt to capital or leverage ratio.

Richard J. Carbone
EVP and CFO, Prudential Financial

Right.

John Nadel
Analyst, Sterne Agee

I thought the 25% ratio was frankly far less critical, particularly given the DAC accounting changes that are getting implemented as of January 1st. I thought the rating agencies were focused much more on interest coverage where you guys seem to be in excellent shape. You're telling us to focus on 25% target. I just would look for some clarification on that.

Richard J. Carbone
EVP and CFO, Prudential Financial

Sure. That 25.3 is before the DAC adjustments.

John Nadel
Analyst, Sterne Agee

Yeah.

Richard J. Carbone
EVP and CFO, Prudential Financial

When we reduce the equity, the 25.3, I'm not going to get it this perfect, 26.4 maybe. It goes up to 26.4 after the reduction in the denominator. Eric is giving me a thumbs up. Maybe it's 27. I just didn't remember. Is it 27, Eric?

John Nadel
Analyst, Sterne Agee

Yeah.

Richard J. Carbone
EVP and CFO, Prudential Financial

I'm sorry. It's 27. We'll get a little hiatus on bringing that back down by the rating agencies we are expecting. Eventually, that's got to work back down to two. You make a great point. Cash flow coverage is important, but when the ratio breaks through the 25, that also has a ripple effect on the cash flow coverage. Now we still have cash flow coverages under our measures that meet our standards, but there is strain on them when you push in over 25.

John Nadel
Analyst, Sterne Agee

Okay.

Richard J. Carbone
EVP and CFO, Prudential Financial

That coupled with the 27 optic, even though it's an optic, needs to be moderated.

John Nadel
Analyst, Sterne Agee

I guess my takeaway seems to be that you get a relatively short-term period of time where the rating agencies don't respond to a higher than 25, but they expect you still, nonetheless, despite the accounting change, to bring it back down over time.

Richard J. Carbone
EVP and CFO, Prudential Financial

That's correct. Could I just add one point to that? In an acquisition where there's cash flow provided by the earnings of that acquisition to cover the fixed charge coverage that you rightfully brought up, that would bump up above the 25.

John Nadel
Analyst, Sterne Agee

Yep. Okay. That's helpful. Thank you, Rich.

Richard J. Carbone
EVP and CFO, Prudential Financial

Depending upon the cash flow coming with the acquisition.

Mark B. Grier
Vice Chairman, Prudential Financial

It's one of the things to think about. Asset quality is very strong. Liquidity is very strong. Earnings power has a lot of momentum. It's one thing to think about, and I think Rich explained it well.

John Nadel
Analyst, Sterne Agee

Thank you very much.

Operator

Due to timing constraints, our last question will come from Joanne Smith, Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Joanne Smith
Analyst, Scotiabank

Yes, thank you very much. I have a couple questions. The first is just as a follow-up to the discussion about non-bank SIFIs. It just seems to me that there's a lot more going on than just non-bank SIFIs. It seems like every time Geithner has a press conference, he talks about all financial institutions being more regulated over time. I was just wondering if you could talk about that a little bit more in a broader context. Then second, just on the universal life. I know that you're not concentrating heavily on individual life insurance products anymore. Given the fact that there were such strong sales in the quarter, I hear a lot, or everybody's heard a lot about a lot of people increasing prices because of low interest rates.

I'm wondering if you have already done that, now you are kind of even with those that are just now raising prices. What the competitive dynamics are with respect to that and rising prices.

Richard J. Carbone
EVP and CFO, Prudential Financial

Let's start with the second question first. Charlie?

Charles F. Lowrey
EVP and COO, U.S. Businesses, Prudential Financial

Sure. It's actually a great story, you have the story exactly right. In 2009, we raised prices twice, in May and November, both in term and our universal life, and watched in 2010 our sales plummet as a result of that. We wanted to retain the profitability of the product as we saw going into these markets. The reason why universal life has come back in terms of sales is that our competitors have begun to raise prices up to match ours. When you look at our product and you spreadsheet our product, as the financial advisors do, we have gone from third quartile to second quartile in terms of pricing, and therefore we have been able to sell more product. We have, again, it's a consistent story.

We have been consistent with sort of our anticipation of pricing and our aggressive repricing of product for the markets. Both in annuities and here in universal life, you've seen our competitors kind of come up to match us.

Joanne Smith
Analyst, Scotiabank

Very good. Thank you.

Mark B. Grier
Vice Chairman, Prudential Financial

Just quickly on your other question about more regulation in general. Beyond the comments that our own Secretary of the Treasury has made, there's a broader international view that some companies fell through the cracks, in a sense, as a result of inadequate group supervision. I think SIFI or not, there will be an emerging group or holding company regulatory environment that we will have to deal with, whether it comes from the franchise of our state regulators extended or from a federal entity here in the U.S. or possibly even something that may emerge from the discussions about international regulation. I think that's a fact of life that will be a reality for us over the next few years, whether we're a SIFI or not.

Charles F. Lowrey
EVP and COO, U.S. Businesses, Prudential Financial

Again, the most important concern that we have is that we have a regulatory regime that is sensitive to what our business models look like and what our financial dynamics are and ensure that we play on a level playing field. Also balance risk and capital to make sure that the public policy needs to have stability and financial services are also met. I would say it's something we expect, we think about, we work on, and it will be part of life for us, however it emerges in terms of group or holding company supervision. I don't think will be the end of the world. We will manage through with our own financial targets, probably more aggressive than the regulatory targets anyway.

Joanne Smith
Analyst, Scotiabank

Mark, do you think that it just automatically means more capital requirements for the industry? Do you think that that could possibly go beyond, say, a 375%-400% RBC ratio as being the new standard?

Mark B. Grier
Vice Chairman, Prudential Financial

I don't think so. I wouldn't make that kind of an abstract, absolute statement. I think it means there'll be careful consideration of the dynamics of the balance sheet and the stress test, which I think will ultimately be the cornerstone of the whole capital management regime. I think it's going to be carefully considered in the context of what's really there and how it moves.

Joanne Smith
Analyst, Scotiabank

Thank you very much.

Mark B. Grier
Vice Chairman, Prudential Financial

No, I don't think it's an automatic add-on to the current benchmarks.

Joanne Smith
Analyst, Scotiabank

Okay. Thank you, Mark.

Operator

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